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Goldie
Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 1:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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All thanks --- I read and I listen to hear you all..

I am certain of 2 things.. the up the throat reflux is new since I am taking a  medication for herpes - for one year - then I will stop.  

Also I am certain that because of the diabetes the body can not fight the acid- and can not heal the 'scares' as fast. so I feel it more.. and one more thing I will get rid of it with SWAMI and I will add Bladderwrack..
by the way the pain is 90% reduced already.

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My plan for right now is eating some more Gatherer foods as I am advised by Swami. Swami Rocks!

in place of pineapple it will be peach, pumpkin, cranberry (juice -nice). I don't eat to much and 99% separately.

in place of more (often) meat I am eating turkey.  I BOUGHT the 5 inch fry pan to cut down on my portions of vegetables I steam and then add the meat to cook for minute.. this will help to cut portions- less needing to stuff me with left overs--  

the spices will matter much and to my surprise they changed a great deal.. much less biting ones.. I will need to make a new shopping list.

then I really think that eating not to be stuffed will help with fewer nuts or less often and all together less grazing...  

GASTRO-D was advised by the NPS-Personalized Nutrition Store.. store

Elderberry juice with lots of water.. and indeed water.. is a good reminder. Thanks.

I don't eat grains for many years but have noticed that the recent try with quinoa was interesting.  I need to cook very little 1/8 cup to be sure not to over eat.  

I might make some to be eaten like a snack for in the evening._ feels scary!  

I am taking the weight loss protocol sups and so far have no issues with any. For me all 'pills' come to about 2 pills every 3 hours. The ones I need to take on on empty stomach I take at night..as I wake anyway so its no problem.

ONE BIG THING I noticed: My urine flow was so-so before I started the sups.. it is now back to NORMAL.. a stream with some pressure... I had given up on ever getting that muscle action back.. I think the sups do some real good for that or even the kidneys.   I seem to have no leaking anymore upon sneezing.. THAT IS THE BEST success worth noting.  Never give up if something does not work try until you find the answer.

Its not cheap to do the sups but at least I am not taking chemical stuff.. I decided for now to pay for the sups instead of a visit to Dr D.  better I fix me for a while, and then go some day in future.

Thanks again for all suggestions!!!!!!!!  and most of all : I NO LONGER call my 'non 100% compliance eating' CHEATING any more-- to much guilt associated with that way of thinking... I now will find another word as you are so RIGHT!! GUILT is not a good thing.. IT adds to a already bad situation.. So from now on all 'extra' foods will not cause me self depreciation by guilt any more..  I will stand up to it AND to me and relax.       Thanks all- you all are helpful!   


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie
Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 10:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I Swami'd today.  ate just 2 prunes and a smidgen of mayo.. I think I should be ok.. the sups have helped already.. I ordered the Bladderwrack to see how I will do with it.

One of the nice side effects of doing all that I am doing now, sups and all, they might fix me well enough to reduce the hot flashes .. would be nice.  but for today I feel more room around the middle.. and that is good  .. and I will drink more water.. a big thing.. thanks for all the encouragement..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie
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I am reporting that my symptoms are gone .. the sups and eating fewer walnuts.. (if any) eating less often and eating less (5 inch pan from 8 inch) all made a difference..

I know i can still develop acid..if I over do anything but I am in charge for now.. so 'it' looks better.. thanks for all support.

I have not yet received the Bladderwrack but will add it later today.. and expect all good things..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Victoria
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good news, Goldie!  



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Symbi
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Sounds great Goldie.  Feel better soon sweetie!
Thanks for the details, you've made me remember that all the pineapple juice lately could be why the reflux has had a mini-visit with me.  Gotta remember to not overdo any one food, in my case.

BTW you mention taking herpes meds, I get cold sore type activity nearly constantly.  Yuk isn't it! Have started taking L-Lysine again (after some advice on the forum that it shouldn't harm me though I'm wary because it's acidic and am prone to acidosis).  Wonder if that might help you instead of anti-virals I guess you're on?  Forgive me if you already tried it.  Here's one page of starter info http://www.best-herpes-treatments.com/lysine.html)

Like all amino acids, take it on an empty stomach.  I take only 1/2 500mg tablet at a time.  One upon waking, one in mid afternoon before afternoon tea (fruit meal really herbal tea going all day!).  So long as I avoid high arginine foods like grape juice, chocolate and nuts (or add a tablet when I consume these foods) I feel much better.  Also use zinc sunscreen in the sun.  Do you know the sun makes the skin make arginine that encourages the blighter?  Oh yeah try and avoid stress.  Yeahh     

(Lysine - reckon it's helping keep chronic fatigue IMHO in my case it's chronic Epstein Barr Virus attacking me which is a herpes virus.  One day medical science will catch up maybe?)   Also add chronic fatigue may be a candida infection too, feeling it lately a bit along with thrush.  


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For me it's not over doing the high oxalate containing foods like spinach, kale, etc.  Also I was getting quite a few bouts of sores in my mouth so I started not using any toothpaste w/ sodium laurate & this has helped tremendously.
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I called Dr D's PNS (Personalized Nutrition Store) and ordered the special item for Acid reflux.  I will take it for 2 month, hoping to show the MD that I can do without the Prilosec type stuff he was going to prescribe -- but which I am not accepting.

I  often go to sleep for 1.5 'nap' after lunch (bored to tears) or after dinner can't stay awake..I will stop that as of today.. I will remain UPRIGHT for 3 hours after lunch and dinner meals.

but what else can I do??

will the plum vinegar help the digestion issues? should i eat a little for lunch and dinner? as a neutralizing acid medicine?

same question about elderberry juice will it help or hurt/

I drink liquids most often before eating.. or 20 minutes after.. will the elderberry juice neutralize or do what?

I have had this for a while and I told the MD that I only eat BTD, but I would just love to blow him out of the water by curing myselve during the next exactly 28 days.!!

thanks for help.  goldie.    


I took two (Gastro D) twice a day for a couple of months. It will work if you give it time, but also how is your avoids & benes Also might want to check but not sure vinegar is a good option for you. Check the list...

I really began making progress when I accepted how each dynamic works together, no magic bullets...
Cheers!




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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Goldie
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HERPES answer: Actually for the reminder to myself..

Pantothenic Acid cheap sup is the best.. for herpes.. 500 mg for a month then cut 100 mg untol down to 100 then keep taking them .. according to DrD He makes a type of it that is even easier to digest and so be sure to UP TAKE.. worth a call .. or just buy them in a store right now..

I should remember that for my self..

I am on meds for a year trying to knock them down under my hip bone.. sit bone where  I have it.. I am unhappy especially since I was told recently.. that even after a year they might still come back..

I still had another outbreak just a few days ago, but recognized the symptoms and used Zovirax as a topical cream.. do you use that ? you should have it with you at all times.. if you use it right away you can avoid the blistering..  

I am afraid of herpes as they can go to places we never thought of.. so why am I so stupid .. I mean stupid in doing dumb things twice.. like not taking the B5 vit..??

I am ordering some from DrD (see below) today.. thanks for reminding me.    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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REFLUX answer.. a few days .. less then a week and my pain is gone in my throat.. so my body can heal once I figure out what is going on and act on it.

I am doing the supps as mentioned and added bladderwrack yesterday.. My troat is not hurting any more,, and I lost 5 pds weight so less upward pressure under my heart.. it was a recent gain so easy to loose..

I have not varied my foods, but will shop today for new spices, and new SWAMI vegetables.. that should make a big difference.. I am also eating more turkey again .. but last night' steak did me no harm..  

I even forgot about choc in my closet.. can stay there to rot for all I care .. doing cocoa in water for the reduction in cravings..

all in all doing better .. when did I start this thread??  FEBR 10.!  and today is the 21!! hot stuff.I call this recovery!!. hot stuff I am!!!


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I'm glad you're feeling better, Goldie!  And vegetables are alkaline in the body . . should help even more with stopping that acid reflux.



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Great to hear you're on the way up Goldie!

Thanks for the Herpes advice.   Didn't know that B5 helps herpes sores heal!   I take 250mg a day for adrenal fatigue already (Pantothenic Acid).  Searching the NAP store can only find Polyvite A and Hunter Activist contain active B5:

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Pantethine: A naturally occurring compound and the active form of pantothenic acid. Research has demonstrated that pantethine, when taken orally, can be used for lowering cholesterol. It is also used for lowering cardiovsacular risk, improving energy, improving adrenal function, and preventing allergy symptoms.


Seeing another page the NAP form, Pantethine is the only form known to lower cholesterol and triglycerides in doses of 900mg a day. http://www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/23/52.cfm

Searching the web about B5 I see that Bee pollen is full of B5 might be worth trying if you can stay away from bee hives while you're wearing it  

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Bee pollen contains Pantothenic acid an ingredient which speeds up the healing of blisters and cold sores caused by herpes. This ingredient would be, which belongs to the B vitamin complex family. Many patients infected with the herpes simplex virus also prefer using products with bee pollen as they can effectively lessen the recurrence of outbreaks.

There are some products made from bee pollen which also have propolis, a powerful antibiotic that comes from bees. Such products would even be more effective in controlling outbreaks caused by the herpes simplex virus. This is because propolis has a high concentration of luteolin and flavonoids which are efficient in the reduction of pain and inflammation as well as in the relief of itchiness.
  http://thebestcureforherpes.com/uncategorized/cures-for-herpes-bee-pollen-and-other-natural-methods/

Article goes on to say that avoiding acidic foods like chocolate, tomatoes, eggplant and foods high in sugar and fat will speed up healing during an outbreak.  Same things help with acid reflux!

I do use Zovirax cream thanks for advice and do carry it around.  Also find zinc oxide cream (even my invisible zinc pure version sunscreen) helps healing and must use it when going in the sun.  What I get are red bumpy creases on the side of my nose, tingling and itching like the virus is creeping out of there and if I gave it a chance I would get a blister on my cheeks or around the nose (once a year like christmas time they love to come out -stress related definitely).  Otherwise I get tingling most of the time.  Like chronic yeast infection becoming less and less now on the Genotype Diet.  Immune system is improving.  Many good days and getting more done.  


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all in all doing better .. when did I start this thread??  FEBR 10.!  and today is the 21!! hot stuff.I call this recovery!!. hot stuff I am!!!
No it was only Feb 18...

     congrats Goldie!!! A wondrous relief

And the fact the you don't need the choc so much anymore... redemption!


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yaeli... love it.. If you go to the first page then it's early February.. that is only important when you wish to see how fast I got better.. like in a week to 10 days.


Symbi... The bee pollen info is interesting, there where once lip balm with beepollen, might be a connection.

I am going to have to sort this out for my body, I will continue on the Valtrex.. very expensive.. and maybe even stupid to start.. but I was freaking out after the 3rd outbreak down my leg in pain in 2 month time.

But now I will buy DrD's .. and see what is better.. It seems the valtrex is not actually doing me much good.. as I had two more starts of tingling and like a type of small swelling.. enough to make me add the zovirax.

I think I did myself a disfavor by not checking all my symptoms against the info in the 4 your type Encyclopedia.  I am needing to remind myself!!!!  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Good, hope that helps and hope your leg feels better.  Sorry that drug doesn't seem to work for you, worth doing a clinical trial to see what does!  Have you tried putting diluted tea tree oil on there.  Sometimes I put it around my nose and wow it smells good, also stops the itching and is antiviral naturally.

Hope you are enhancing your immune system as well.  I take Vitamin C, lots of minerals etc.  Make sure I get enough sleep all helps fight the blighter.

One thing forgot to say about reflux: when sleeping try to sleep on your left side.  Sleeping on your right side allows the sphincter to open the stomach contents up.  Also sleeping on your back can do the same a bit, that's why it's good to raise the height of your head, a wedge, tilt your bed or a few pillows underneath.


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Oh the sleeping on the left will make it interesting..

I turn so much and often will  be on my back.. but I will try..

as for th Vit E for O's I believe from way back that is a no no ..

But I am taking all sorts of stuff right now from DPN and hope that I will increase what it is that I need.  I am feeling better in many ways quite interesting how fast the body responds so fast.  

I will report my progress.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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