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Goldie
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I am so shocked that my numbers have not gotten better.. but actually got worse..

I will take a test to see if my pancreas will be working in future with just medication..or not at all then needing insulin..

so here is what I eat.. ( the crossed out I could have but dont care for..

MY question .. after I finish swami.. need to do that.. would I be able to positively IMPACT the diabetes with more of DR D's sups as in complete tprotocols?? I have taken some but never all at once..


BTD Prot: 4oz Beef 2x a day Tuna,Turkey/Egg-whites- 2 whole eggs.

OILS: Olive Walnut, Almond, Benef. Coconut,  Flax Nutr

VEGGIES: Beet greens, Broccoli, Chicory, Collard, Kale,
Escarole, Mitake, Seaweed, Spinach, Swiss Chard
Super Benef.
- Artichoke, Carrot, Dandelion, Horseradish, Kohlrabi,  
Romaine, Onion, Pumpkin, Turnip neut, Fiddle head,
  Mushrooms, Garlic all Benef.


FRUIT: Blueberry, Pineapple, Plum, Prune Super Benef.
- Cherry, Figs, Guava, Mango, Avocado and Prickly Pear,
  Pomegranate, Benef
- Banana 2x a month high glycemic,

SPICES: Fenugreek, Super B... Cayenne Pepper, choc..
- Carob, Ginger Horseradish, Parsley,
  Seaweed Basil, Bay leave, Yeast brewers and bakers,
  Oregano, Saffron, Tarragon - Benef..

--Turmeric moved to seldom - Neutral.
- Cinnamon, Mayo, Apple cider vinegar, Stevia AVOID!  

NUTS: Filberts Hazel,/ Walnut Super Benef  
-Pumpkin seed is Beneficial

Drinks: cocoa in hot water.. and occasional Grapefruit juice..

I am at wits end.. unless its the icecream I ate this summer?? one scoop a day? stopped a month ago.
      


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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You're eating well.......there are supps that help a lot.....(gymnemma sylvestre, cinnamon)
and exercize......long walks.....good luck! keep us posted.
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Goldie are you still eating ice cream?


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I'm taking Glycosia which helps with blood sugar control.  Do you take it?


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yes.. 2 glycosia a day.. since about 3 month..

gave up icecream beg October..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Did you have an A1C? that is a 3 month check on your blood sugar if you where still eating ice cream just last month it would still be evident on your blood test.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I know you've had some real problems with temptations and cravings, and you haven't always been sucessful at resisting those temptations.

I suspect that a BIG part of the problem is those "avoids" that you've let sneak into your diet in the past.

I bet that your numbers will improve as soon as you get back to 100% compliance- let this scary lab test be a "wake up call" to take your health seriously, as well as a ready excuse to say no to avoids you're offered in social settings.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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How much pumpkin are you eating? It is fairly high glycemic Pumpkin & carrots send my blood sugar up...
I'm not sure about turnip - but it might be worth checking the levels in that
Also, how much fruit do you eat? There are some of us that just can't do a lot of fruit...
Hope the next reading is better
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IN THE house..

I eat Zucchini twice a week.. a neutral  

ate 6 small turnips all year a neutral ? bad for me..

4 sweet potatoes this year  

Avocado or Mango twice a week each

24 oz of prunes in about 3 month

3 pineapple chunks-- I freeze-- 3 times a week ... I don't use the liquid..

grapefruit juice sometimes

OUTSIDE of the house

yes I had ice-cream this summer.. 1scoop with cone// no more since Oct.

I ate some peanuts on off about 3 weeks?? could that be a culprit as it is avoid for O's ? and it causes urine issues upon sneezing.  

I just had about a week of eating almonds two weeks ago.. neutral.. might be bad for me...

when I go out I might have a small amount of grains.. at most every other week.

I find 100% super-Beneficial compliancy near impossible.. I suppose I could .. but at least now with the cocoa the hunger seems to have subsided..The B6 and Magnesium might be helping also..

gave up chocolate since I am drinking the cocoa.. only ate 85% and finger nail size amounts daily before that.

had about 6 reg choc bars this year.

COULD my escapade into eating the NAPs Carob extract during a trial of about 3 weeks have caused me additional sugar issues?? I reacted  with a water gain of 5-7 pounds.. ate only the tip of a teaspoon /one drop at a time three times a day.. as it is all neutral and so for me difficult - might I really have sabotaged myself..??? I no longer use any of it.. in total I had used up maybe about 2-3oz before I stopped...   

giving up fruits might be a possibility, but at least I have no bathroom issues anymore.. used to be dried..
and DrD advises 3 fruit for balance even for diabetics????  

Thanks for the discussion.. I will see what happens in the next test.. I will find out IF I am ever going to need insulin or just be able to increase meds.. that is a big worry and I need to clear that up so I can stop the worry.. or start as the case might be..

ONE item I will really look into is the sups be it NAP or protocols and maybe other things like B6 which seems to be a big need for me.. familial inherited..  I will go to no less then 500 mg and keep the 500mg Magnesium as well ..  




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Can you swing getting a SWAMI done? It's entirely possible that one or two foods is setting you off, something that's currently "beneficial" that's really a "black dot" for you.


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The wrong lectins can mimic insulin....I agree with Ruthie....SWAMI might be your best option.


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Your pancreas, may not be working as well, as it was before.  That does not, mean you did something wrong.  When a diabetic, these things happen, and medications, or herbs/etc. needs to be adjusted.

Stress, can also be a factor, in raising the ha1c.  Need to try and relax, when stressed, if you are or was.

I think swami, might benefit you, at this stage, if you can financially swing it.  Then you will know, for sure, you are eating the right food, for you personally.

Best to you Joli!
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Thanks all after today I have a few days to get the SWAMI input and see what I am doing .. then I will see and my test will further show what to expect in future.  thanks for the encouragements it helps ...


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, in another post you said you ate a candy bar the day before your test. Quit sabatoging yourself!
Get a SWAMI (Pro) if you can and eat what it says. You have half the things crossed off your list. What if those are the very things that can help you?


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Goldie, in another post you said you ate a candy bar the day before your test. Quit sabotaging yourself!
Get a SWAMI (Pro) if you can and eat what it says. You have half the things crossed off your list. What if those are the very things that can help you?


Goldie, as a diabetic, when you eat a candy bar or an ice cream cone, you might as well be grabbing a bottle of poison. It's no joke for you.  If you want a good quality of life, I think you should stop playing games with yourself and do what the rest of us with chronic health issues do. . exert ourselves to remain consistent.  
  
For many years, I have lived on superfoods and diamonds.  It's not impossible;  just requires a change of attitude, of accepting full accountability.  

Who is going to come along and save you if you tease yourself by eating poison?     



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Bladderwrack. Do it.

Also what is your exercise like?
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AS Ron-O-Non (actually an A) said about nonnies and sugar...IT IS OUR POISON.

As Ruthiegirl suggested...Swami-put the money into that instead of the chocolate bars and ice cream.  

And...GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER AVOIDS.

It is only hard if you make it that way...you can do it.  We've all been in the same boat.  

(((((Big hugs)))))

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Quoted from paul clucas
Your health is like a romance ...

   ... the right king of food and the right kind of music helps everything run smoothly.  


I'm sure you meant "kind" -- great quote PC.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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My husband says give the Twinky Diet a go.


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I'm sorry, Goldie.    I hope you find what works best for you.  I know how hard it is to avoid sweets.  You're not alone there, if it's any consolation.
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Quoted from Debra+
AS Ron-O-Non (actually an A) said about nonnies and sugar...IT IS OUR POISON.

As Ruthiegirl suggested...Swami-put the money into that instead of the chocolate bars and ice cream.  

And...GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER AVOIDS.

It is only hard if you make it that way...you can do it.  We've all been in the same boat.  

(((((Big hugs)))))

Debra


I have come to believe that it has more to do with what you are eating than not eating. Dr. D has mentioned that at least a few times.

You can play push the food away all day but... and you might see slightly better results but... if you can provide what the body truly needs it should overcome these problems.

Again what is exercise like? Do you eat bladderwrack? I would think about SWAMI, the Genoharmonic foods are POWERFUL.
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Goldie,

Taking inventory is helpful.  I used to be a sugar addict and one day could be a diabetic (strong family history).  You are on the right path.  
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Thanks all again.. ///  I grew up eating sweets.. gave up near all .. but my Geno -fathers inheritance- is playing with my SOUL's mind.. the lesson I am to learn.. my lesson is learning and learning over and over again.. I learned that one candy bar is not going to kill me, two might, but I am also confused about insulin.

Some who are in need of insulin have different needs than those who will never need insulin.. I think that makes a big difference.. not all will ever need insulin.. others will eventually need it no matter what they do.  I am currently finding out what category I will fit.. I will need to deal with either of the outcomes.  

I am going to see if the Geno diet is taking that into consideration .. Swami will tell me.

I am still asking what about all the effects diabetes has way before it comes on in middle age.. I believe it starts much earlier, maybe even at birth.. learning about that is important..even if it will never matter to my life.

The foods that are crossed out may be added some day -but I don't like them - so its hard to add them..

but yes ..the darn avoid I ate are easier to give up since I am drinking cocoa for now .. it seems to work keeping other cravings down..  Little by little I am finding ways to cope.. with all your advise its going to be easier..


WHY Bladder wrack?? I need to read up on that.. and yes running in circles might have to become my way of life ..  
  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Cinnamon is very helpful in balancing blood sugar, also you need enough healthy fats. You'll find your way  
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Goldie, Can you get your chromium levels checked (via a blood test). Your levels might be very low and, if this is the case, supplements might help. Lots of people with diabetes are low in chromium.
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WHY Bladder wrack?? I need to read up on that.. and yes running in circles might have to become my way of life ..  
  


Bladderwarck has been expressed as able to scrub out insulin blocking lectins. It is in Blood Type O Deflect, which would be good for you.

If you can increase insulin reception by eating good things for you, then your body will stop over producing insulin when it is healthy enough to do so, and putting you back in the state of a lack there of insulin that makes you sick when the body is stressed and unable to make enough after overproduction.



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I learned that one candy bar is not going to kill me


I learned to simply turn away and say no.....has worked fine so far.....
there are other excellent choices


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Some who are in need of insulin have different needs than those who will never need insulin.. I think that makes a big difference.. not all will ever need insulin.. others will eventually need it no matter what they do.  I am currently finding out what category I will fit.. I will need to deal with either of the outcomes.  


I disagree with your statement that "some will eventually need it no matter what they do."  Isn't this totally contrary (imho) to everything that Dr. D has tried to show us with the GenoType Diet and letting the right food be your medicine? Dr. D has shown us that you can change your genetic destiny. Improve your odds.  If you believe that statement, then I'm really flummoxed.

I'm going to be blunt here.

This is in your siggy line:

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On BTD/GENO for 15 years I buy all quality supplements from (NAP) D'Adamo Personalized Nutrition Store


Is this signature really true?  How can you have been on BTD/GTD this long....and not know how important TYPE O DEFLECT is for you with your health issues to take on a regular basis?

One candy bar won't kill you?  Well, it looks like it was the straw of many that put your diabetes numbers in worse shape.

You also say under your shield that you are a Gatherer, but are choosing to follow BTD.  Why?  



Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Answers.. from where I sit..

Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..

I am on BTD for DIABETES (book) and it did not list DEFLECT ..  

I was on Gatherer, but the test showed BTD instead..

sugar / insulin.. some are prone to need the injections while others may need only meds as they get older..my blood test will show that soon..  I need to KNOW which I am so as to further make the better decisions..

I never expected diabetes to be on issue until way after menopause -- LOOKING back.. I think weight gain at any time is the FIRST sign of possible diabetes in future..  

AS for Prevention.. yes GENO type eating early in life will do it.. as it is I was able to push out 'diabetes' for many years with BTD.  I know I would be way more over weight and way more ill if not for the BTD.. and I'd be on way more meds then I will ever be (I hope).. BTD/GENO is the ONLY if not cure = then the only PREVENTION that I KNOW of.. plus it fits my food desires.  

since I don't eat anything white.. (no starches/grains/dairy/sugar) and now no more ice cream and no more coffee, I expect to figure out this (diabetes and related issues) one way or the other..  my questions are often pointing not at the outside as much as to: my own INSIGHT..

EVEN while one candy bar will not kill me, even now, it is now taking on much more negativity then before I was on old lady with diabetes.. others at my age used to be dead.. instead I am a spring chicken.. and I have many years to make a difference (unless I have the type of pancreas that stops functioning at a certain time in life) = menopause of the pancreas - ha-ha - but in actuality true..  

and right after that comes the issues of heart disease.. also on issue.. I wonder is deflect in that book.. need to look.. .... yes it is but for THYROID activities.. (maybe it would help in loosing weight?? MMMH ?  ... AND the AGING book has it for lectins/candida . ... maybe all the books will bring me full circle..    

Please keep the questions coming they help me loads..  


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Have you consistently had A1c tests done over the past year Goldie?  If not, I highly recommend doing so.  You can purchase at home A1c test kits which are sent off to a lab for analysis.  You receive your results in 5-7 days if you choose the email option to send test results to vs. a home address.  

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Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..


No, I don't believe Deflect was "always mentioned for intestinal issues.." My understanding of Deflect is it ALSO removes old lectin build up.  And, if you are eating/drinking avoids on a regular basis, you need Deflect.

Were you not still drinking coffee until recently?  

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I have tried giving up coffee for more then 15 years but seriously for the last 15 for sure.. but it was a loosing battle,..

(snip)

I think 6 weeks from now I will be clear of desire for coffee.. for me that is a big thing..


And this is where I get totally confused.....

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I don't know if it has caffeine, I cant feel any .. BUT what I do feel is a peacefulness in my stomach and intestines I never felt before..

(I had one have a cup of weak coffee in-between.. and my intestines reacted fiercely..


You just said in this thread you solved your intestinal issues years ago... How is it that you solved your intestinal issues years ago...yet recently posted on Nov 17th that you "...feel is a peacefullness in my stomach and intestines I never felt before..."

I'm sorry. I don't understand these contradictory statements.  They seem at odds to each other to me.

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AS for Prevention.. yes GENO type eating early in life will do it.. as it is I was able to push out 'diabetes' for many years with BTD.  I know I would be way more over weight and way more ill if not for the BTD.. and I'd be on way more meds then I will ever be (I hope).. BTD/GENO is the ONLY if not cure = then the only PREVENTION that I KNOW of.. plus it fits my food desires.  


Fits your food desires?  I'm sorry; what does this mean if you were drinking coffee for 15 years and now recently posting you were eating candy bars?

Serious health issues require a serious commitment to reverse your genetic susceptibility.

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Goldie- I think you need to change your thinking. One candy bar CAN kill you- maybe not right away, but it messes up your blood glucose, interferes with the insulin response, and leads to more cravings- which slow your healing even more if you give into them.

One candy bar can undo weeks of careful work on your diet.

I also disagree with your statement that "some people will eventually need insulin no matter what they do." You are 100% in control of everything you put into your mouth. The right diet can heal you.

I'm not saying you should avoid medications, including insulin, if they're indicated- but you should see medications as a temporary fix, a band-aid to keep a serious problem in check until you're able to heal the underlying issues. Your diabetes progressing to the point that more meds are needed is a sign that you've done something wrong- something that you DO have the power to change.

It's hard to combine the BTD Diabetes book with the Heart Disease book with the GTD. When you've got multiple health issues, SWAMI is truly the way to go. Following an individualized plan will probably eliminate cravings for the unhealthy foods that keep setting you back.


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I disagree with people here strongly.

First get Deflect. Your cardiovascular issues I am sure were greatly influenced by lectins. In one of the books or somewhere Dr. D has talked about the problem of lectins attaching to the walls of the cardiovascular system and causing damage. It might be a bigger problem for Warriors but I would NOT put it past anyone else.

Yes bladderwarck is a "scrubber".

Where I disagree is the "one candy bar". If you are eating the things that repair you and make you feel good it will make the allowance of eating something bad not as awful for you.

What do you eat that is anti-inflammatory; do you eat pineapple?

Start on Deflect, and do as many of these as easily available to you. I recommend just getting more of them as food sources in you as opposed to supplements, at this point. Bromelain comes from pineapple; cayenne and ginger you can just consume. Cayenne is nice on food, ginger is great to brew by boil. You might be asking why but... if you reduce inflammation you may see great recovery in the cardiovascular system.

BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Glucosamine sulphate, 500 mg: 1-2 capsules away from food, twice daily
   2. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve
   3. Ginger root (Rhizoma Zingiberis: Zingiber officinalis)
   4. Cayenne pepper (Capsicum sp), 300 mg: 1-2 capsules with meals
   5. Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell O): 2 capsules daily

I would recommend taking Alpha-Lipoic Acid as a supplement. It is important to have a functioning neuro-system in order for regular function, recovery, and appropriate insulin balance.

What do you do for exercise?
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Goldie has said she doesn't take DEFLECT anymore because she has already healed her intestinal issues.

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Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..


From my understanding, Goldie only gave up coffee two weeks ago, so she's been drinking a pretty bad avoid for some time now.


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MileHighRob  yes I have done A1C tests that is where I get my numbers.. Interestingly (at least for me surprising) after starting on Meds last MAY .. my numbers have risen ..


KimonoKat In the diabetes book it was not mentioned.. maybe I should have but I never connected the two as you indicate above..

coffee contradiction:  when I drank coffee on a regular basis, even decaf I NEVER knew HOW peaceful my intestines could feel.. I did not ever realize that I was still having issues until I changed last month to a spoon of cocoa in water in the morning...  

THE stomach pain issues I said I fixed was 32 years of stomach pain because of milk in my diet then ...

BTD and Geno allows for chocolate.. I switched from Geno to BTD last April and diabetes book because the test said so.. I was pleased to go back to meat as I like that better then turkey on GENO..  I also like the green leafy vegetables..

  
ruthiegirl   you are right in all you are saying.. now I am wondering if the cup cocoa this last month might actually do harm.. ?? need to evaluate it.. (it helped me get OFFFFF coffee ..no cravings since I drink it.. (by comparison I had bad reactions to Carob extract- one drop a day- and maybe that is also showing up in the A1C. I had tried it as a way to deal with sugar issues.. BUT I stopped when I had gained 7 pounds in 10 days...- neutrals often react badly with me.. )

There is a test to see IF I ever will be needing insulin.. I will know in a few days.. apparently there is a type pancreas more prone to such outcome..Yet you are right.. if I was able to reverse my genetic history, then just maybe who knows.. for now I am still many meds away, but I wanted to find out- so I did what is called C Peptide test. that will tell me a little more about me in a few days.    

You are correct Swami is my next step..  
  
Destroyer of Smiles.   yes I will get he deflect as it addresses my nerve issues.. Thanks for that...
Yes I eat pineapples and prunes.  I will increase the pineapple if that would be better.  Maybe the prunes are to many? 1/4 cup a day..  

Bromelain comes from pineapple; cayenne and ginger I am super pleased to hear all that.. I am eating cayenne.. but have not added Ginger I will do so right away .. how much and fresh or how to judge??
I Have long thought about that...

AND IN FACT I AM ON long-term LOW dose VALTREX since June and will remain on it for a year.. for my severe inflammation from teeth, and bouts with herpes nerve pain .. a result of then severe inflammation...
maybe another contributing factor to bad numbers? I don't have a guess.. but the nerve blistering at least is gone..

BUT ginger is going to be easy.. and actually there are some other spices I could try.. dandelion I will drink comes spring in juice form.. Fenugreek, Chickweed, Hops, Linden, Mulberry, Peppermint, Rosehip, Sarsaparilla, Slippery elm.. or whatever SWAMI will tell me..      


BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Glucosamine sulphate, 500 mg: 1-2 capsules away from food, twice daily
   2. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve
   3. Ginger root (Rhizoma Zingiberis: Zingiber officinalis)
   4. Cayenne pepper (Capsicum sp), 300 mg: 1-2 capsules with meals
   5. Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell O): 2 capsules daily

I would recommend taking Alpha-Lipoic Acid as a supplement. It is important to have a functioning neuro-system in order for regular function, recovery, and appropriate insulin balance.

I had a bad time wrapping my head around the facts of DIABETES but I am getting there.. but addressing the cardio vascular issues will help as I long expected that to be on issue..  

... as for exercise.. I walk 20 minutes .. dislike it..


... as for coffee... yes indeed I was bad for a long long time.. even when I had given it up for month I still always went back to decaf.. .. lesson absorbed..  but now I am wondering if the cocoa will do harm??  but at least I am no longer feeling like I am starving..

the other issue is that I am still 40 pds over the limit ..I only lost the 7 pounds recently added..  


THANKS all your input is making this much easier for me.. as I knew it would..




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Destroyer of Smiles.   yes I will get he deflect as it addresses my nerve issues.. Thanks for that...
Yes I eat pineapples and prunes.  I will increase the pineapple if that would be better.  Maybe the prunes are to many? 1/4 cup a day..  


Aren't prunes concentrated sugar?????On gatherer diet it is black dot.

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Aren't prunes concentrated sugar?????On gatherer diet it is black dot.


Read Goldie's shield. She doesn't follow Gatherer.  She follows BTD.


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Imma just sayin might be a bad idea to eat lots of that.
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Goldie- on your container of prunes, read serving size and also read number of carbohydrates.

fruit serving=15 carbohydrates a serving

if your container says 7 prunes= 15 carbohydrates, see how many fit in the 1/4 cup, you have been using.

so if 14 prunes fit in the 1/4 cup that is two servings of fruit for a diabetic=30 grams
so it depends, on whether you have anything else with it. to how it will affect you glucose.  If you have a small handful of walnuts, with it. Your glucose will NOT raise up, as much as it would if you don't.  Or an ounce of meat/fish/poultry, will work the same way, for you.

To test this, take your glucose reading before you eat it. Eat 15 grams worth of prunes and 8 half walnuts, or 1 oz of above mentioned.  Wait three hours, take again. and see what your level it.

if it was 100, in three hours from when you finish, it should be 100, again.(A little variance, is ok)

if you take it two hours from when you began eating it, it will be about 140, and then will drop
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Imma just sayin might be a bad idea to eat lots of that.


They're still concentrated sugar whether GTD or BTD.  



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Goldie I am looking forward to hearing about improvement!

The coffee, wow, it is a big step but maybe one of the best steps.

Deflect is good because it has multiple things in it. Do realize there could be very. very, minor lectins in things that are good for you because the good out weights the bad. I think the Bladderwrack is what will matter the most.

Ginger you can use it as a spice. I like to chop up into small pieces around 1/8-1/4 cup and boil it in water. It makes a strong "tea" that seems to absorb the better qualities of ginger. It does things other anti-inflammatories do not, especially for circulation.

Pineapple has the Bromelain which is specific to inflammation and recommended as a supplement under the protocols, so yes I would want to eat it more than I would prunes.

Exercise forgive me but I do not recall if you have any impairments preventing it. Getting blood flow from increased heart right has high value especially in areas not recovering due to poor blood flow that was a result of inflammation (maybe caused be lectin damage or high blood sugar). That is why massages due well for recovering areas of the body, and it practiced in rehab centers. What do I suggest for exercise? I dunno whatever you feel you can do to kick your own butt a little. I know that any slightly active for of Yoga will do it. I did check and realize you are 67 so I am not surprised you have not turned to Marathon running.
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Goldie I apologise if this has already been mentioned but i couldn't see anyone suggest increasing your fluids.  As an O negative drinking mineral water/plain soda water is supposed to be a beneficial and will help keep you hydrated.
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I almost forgot, physical exercise stimulates thyroids. Just a thought. There is a lot of recommendations for Blood Type O to get exercise. Albeit being diabetic etc does not encourage exercise when you feel less than great.
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YOU ARE ALL RIGHT> > MORE water to drink and ginger tea, exercise, and pineapples.. fewer prunes.. and olive leaf extract... thanks all of you for coming 'over for a cup of 'tea'.. nice..makes this lonely journey like a cruise with friends..  


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Goldie, Can you get your chromium levels checked (via a blood test). Your levels might be very low and, if this is the case, supplements might help. Lots of people with diabetes are low in chromium.


I will look into that.. thanks agin..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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YOU ARE ALL RIGHT> > MORE water to drink and ginger tea, exercise, and pineapples.. fewer prunes.. and olive leaf extract... thanks all of you for coming 'over for a cup of 'tea'.. nice..makes this lonely journey like a cruise with friends..  


I had a nice time chatting & sipping my green tea.   
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I'd love to join you for a cup of tea also, Goldie   Or how about Yerba Mate?  

As for ginger, it is something I grew up eating so I can offer some ideas. How about chopping it up into tiny bits and use it to marinate your meat? Gives it a wonderful "zing"   I usually put the ginger into my "fake soy sauce" and add lots of garlic into it too. Another way of eating it is simply slice it up and put it on top of fish when you steam it. Helps take away the fishiness, too. I also use it to do stir fries from time to time.

As for exercise, is there is pool near where you live so you can swim a little? It's supposed to be good cardio exercise without the pressure on the joints.




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those ginger ideas are great will try them all even the fish .. I don't like fish..

as for swimming I could .. and do in summer .. I just wish I had more company but I also know I am just lazy allowing myself all sorts of excuses..

and green tee, I dislike the taste.. tried many.. but LOVE ALL YOUR COMPANY here at about 4 in the afternoon?? is that OK?? ha-ha or better yet a cup of cocoa in the AM.. it is interesting how calming that is for me.. I wish I had ever been told years ago.... to try it.. but now I know so things are ok..  have a nice day..


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Since you are doing BTD and you aren't into "fishy" tasting, I would recommend the cod! It is the one fish my O wife really likes. I defrost the fillets overnight and then cook it with fresh basil for us. Other than making sure the fillets are fully defrosted it is really easy to prepare!

Right now my cooking method is sear the fish on both sides for a minute (in nonstick or use ghee); add lime juice, olive oil, and fresh basil; cover and turn down the heat and let sit for 15 minutes or so. If I am not ravenously hungry I can get two meals out of one fillet for me.

Suzanne Graham has blog post in the D'Adamo Blogs on cod (Nov. 8, 2010).
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Hey great ingreedients.. I can smell it.. I like the idea of ghee and olive oil.. and the other things.. thanks..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Up your greens too.  That takes away a lot of cravings and makes one feel very satisfied tummy wise. IMHO anyhow.  

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not to mention they are healthy..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Since you are doing BTD and you aren't into "fishy" tasting, I would recommend the cod! It is the one fish my O wife really likes. I defrost the fillets overnight and then cook it with fresh basil for us. Other than making sure the fillets are fully defrosted it is really easy to prepare!

Right now my cooking method is sear the fish on both sides for a minute (in nonstick or use ghee); add lime juice, olive oil, and fresh basil; cover and turn down the heat and let sit for 15 minutes or so. If I am not ravenously hungry I can get two meals out of one fillet for me.

Suzanne Graham has blog post in the D'Adamo Blogs on cod (Nov. 8, 2010).


Sounds good.  

One of the problems I have with fish is that all my life, the only fish I ate was breaded and deep fried.  That's not something I'm going to do now, but I miss the crusty approach to fish.  My body doesn't digest grains and concentrated proteins very well if I eat them at the same time, so I'm not going to be dusting fillets with any flour.  But I have my own solution, which I mentioned to KK on the grain-free thread.

I keep a jar of onion granules and garlic granules, mixed half and half.  I dust fish with this mixture and a sprinkle of Himalayan salt before I saute on each side.  It gives a hint of a crust, since the granules are the texture of fine cornmeal.  Quite satisfying!



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I didn't read all the thread, but maybe the test was faulty. Can you get a retest?
Sometimes things get worse before they get better(maybe like a plateau)....maybe your body is going thru a transition!
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I'm glad you like the idea Goldie! I've been experimenting to get this far. I tried cooking only with olive oil and the fish stuck to the stainless steel - starting with ghee works much better!

Oh and one more tip on the basil, if you can't get fresh organic basil, Litehouse freeze-dried basil is quite tasty too. The jar I have is a product of Germany and only has basil. However, I am not using it until I have used up my fresh! Normal dried basil has a different flavor and is a lot stronger - overpowers the other flavors in the dish for me.

Victoria, I also liked breaded white fish pre-BTD. I'll have to try the onion/garlic/sea salt approach with fish, maybe with pike or halibut. (Don't let me fool you, I've only figured out cod so far!)
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Victoria, I also liked breaded white fish pre-BTD. I'll have to try the onion/garlic/sea salt approach with fish, maybe with pike or halibut. (Don't let me fool you, I've only figured out cod so far!)


I tried this first with onion/garlic powder and it didn't work well.  The granules are a different texture.  I buy it in bulk at natural food stores.



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Aha, I'll have to get my hands on some... Thanks!
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From the Blood Group Supplement Base, Eat Right 4 Your Type Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia:

COMMON     BLOOD GROUP-SPECIFIC        PRIMARY ACTION
NAME         BENEFICIAL EFFECT

Deflect      > ALL BLOOD GROUPS               Acts as a sacrificial molecules to preferentially bind to dietary
                   Intestinal Health                     lectins in the gastrointestinal tract before they can cross into
                   Metabolic Enhancement          the bloodstream.
                  
                > NON SECRETORS
                   Anti-Inflammation
                   Arthritis
                   Detoxification
                   Stomach Health
                   Urinary Tract Infection


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I need to order some more deflect, but I wanted to share that another good crust for fish is finely chopped pecans or other nuts.  You can add some seasoning to the nuts, like sea salt and herbs.  Then saute in some ghee/oil and voila!  I have not done this many times, but when I do, it's wolfed down by all!  Can't remember if I used egg to help the nuts stick or not, but perhaps that was part of it also.  I just searched for a recipe on the web and found several with nut crusts.
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I need to order some more deflect, but I wanted to share that another good crust for fish is finely chopped pecans or other nuts.  You can add some seasoning to the nuts, like sea salt and herbs.  Then saute in some ghee/oil and voila!  I have not done this many times, but when I do, it's wolfed down by all!  Can't remember if I used egg to help the nuts stick or not, but perhaps that was part of it also.  I just searched for a recipe on the web and found several with nut crusts.


this way of cooking might also work for differences when eating other foods.. like adding some new spices to leavy greens.  


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So my Cpeptide test shows high..-- interpretation== I ought to be good for a much longer time not needing insulin by injection.. breath.. at least for now I am reasonable ok if I pay attention to my carb intake..   

Imagine if I ate the standard American diabetes diet of 2 slices of toast in the AM lunch and dinner?? "they' suggest I poison my self ..

I am soooooo glad I did Atkins for 20 years.. eating much fewer fruits, and then BTD and having reversed my eating from 95% damaging foods to 95% Super and Beneficial foods for many years already.. I started to follow my instinctual preferences in my eating YEARS ago and doing so I am lucky today that I am as good as I am..

young people will be so much better of if only they will learn early...   


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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the health of the adrenal glands are important for blood sugar as well...look to reduce your stress levels as much as possible


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