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Goldie, Can you get your chromium levels checked (via a blood test). Your levels might be very low and, if this is the case, supplements might help. Lots of people with diabetes are low in chromium.
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WHY Bladder wrack?? I need to read up on that.. and yes running in circles might have to become my way of life ..  
  


Bladderwarck has been expressed as able to scrub out insulin blocking lectins. It is in Blood Type O Deflect, which would be good for you.

If you can increase insulin reception by eating good things for you, then your body will stop over producing insulin when it is healthy enough to do so, and putting you back in the state of a lack there of insulin that makes you sick when the body is stressed and unable to make enough after overproduction.



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I learned that one candy bar is not going to kill me


I learned to simply turn away and say no.....has worked fine so far.....
there are other excellent choices


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Some who are in need of insulin have different needs than those who will never need insulin.. I think that makes a big difference.. not all will ever need insulin.. others will eventually need it no matter what they do.  I am currently finding out what category I will fit.. I will need to deal with either of the outcomes.  


I disagree with your statement that "some will eventually need it no matter what they do."  Isn't this totally contrary (imho) to everything that Dr. D has tried to show us with the GenoType Diet and letting the right food be your medicine? Dr. D has shown us that you can change your genetic destiny. Improve your odds.  If you believe that statement, then I'm really flummoxed.

I'm going to be blunt here.

This is in your siggy line:

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On BTD/GENO for 15 years I buy all quality supplements from (NAP) D'Adamo Personalized Nutrition Store


Is this signature really true?  How can you have been on BTD/GTD this long....and not know how important TYPE O DEFLECT is for you with your health issues to take on a regular basis?

One candy bar won't kill you?  Well, it looks like it was the straw of many that put your diabetes numbers in worse shape.

You also say under your shield that you are a Gatherer, but are choosing to follow BTD.  Why?  



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Answers.. from where I sit..

Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..

I am on BTD for DIABETES (book) and it did not list DEFLECT ..  

I was on Gatherer, but the test showed BTD instead..

sugar / insulin.. some are prone to need the injections while others may need only meds as they get older..my blood test will show that soon..  I need to KNOW which I am so as to further make the better decisions..

I never expected diabetes to be on issue until way after menopause -- LOOKING back.. I think weight gain at any time is the FIRST sign of possible diabetes in future..  

AS for Prevention.. yes GENO type eating early in life will do it.. as it is I was able to push out 'diabetes' for many years with BTD.  I know I would be way more over weight and way more ill if not for the BTD.. and I'd be on way more meds then I will ever be (I hope).. BTD/GENO is the ONLY if not cure = then the only PREVENTION that I KNOW of.. plus it fits my food desires.  

since I don't eat anything white.. (no starches/grains/dairy/sugar) and now no more ice cream and no more coffee, I expect to figure out this (diabetes and related issues) one way or the other..  my questions are often pointing not at the outside as much as to: my own INSIGHT..

EVEN while one candy bar will not kill me, even now, it is now taking on much more negativity then before I was on old lady with diabetes.. others at my age used to be dead.. instead I am a spring chicken.. and I have many years to make a difference (unless I have the type of pancreas that stops functioning at a certain time in life) = menopause of the pancreas - ha-ha - but in actuality true..  

and right after that comes the issues of heart disease.. also on issue.. I wonder is deflect in that book.. need to look.. .... yes it is but for THYROID activities.. (maybe it would help in loosing weight?? MMMH ?  ... AND the AGING book has it for lectins/candida . ... maybe all the books will bring me full circle..    

Please keep the questions coming they help me loads..  


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Have you consistently had A1c tests done over the past year Goldie?  If not, I highly recommend doing so.  You can purchase at home A1c test kits which are sent off to a lab for analysis.  You receive your results in 5-7 days if you choose the email option to send test results to vs. a home address.  

Best wishes!
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Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..


No, I don't believe Deflect was "always mentioned for intestinal issues.." My understanding of Deflect is it ALSO removes old lectin build up.  And, if you are eating/drinking avoids on a regular basis, you need Deflect.

Were you not still drinking coffee until recently?  

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I have tried giving up coffee for more then 15 years but seriously for the last 15 for sure.. but it was a loosing battle,..

(snip)

I think 6 weeks from now I will be clear of desire for coffee.. for me that is a big thing..


And this is where I get totally confused.....

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I don't know if it has caffeine, I cant feel any .. BUT what I do feel is a peacefulness in my stomach and intestines I never felt before..

(I had one have a cup of weak coffee in-between.. and my intestines reacted fiercely..


You just said in this thread you solved your intestinal issues years ago... How is it that you solved your intestinal issues years ago...yet recently posted on Nov 17th that you "...feel is a peacefullness in my stomach and intestines I never felt before..."

I'm sorry. I don't understand these contradictory statements.  They seem at odds to each other to me.

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AS for Prevention.. yes GENO type eating early in life will do it.. as it is I was able to push out 'diabetes' for many years with BTD.  I know I would be way more over weight and way more ill if not for the BTD.. and I'd be on way more meds then I will ever be (I hope).. BTD/GENO is the ONLY if not cure = then the only PREVENTION that I KNOW of.. plus it fits my food desires.  


Fits your food desires?  I'm sorry; what does this mean if you were drinking coffee for 15 years and now recently posting you were eating candy bars?

Serious health issues require a serious commitment to reverse your genetic susceptibility.

Jmho, of course.  Sharing with the best of intentions.


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Goldie- I think you need to change your thinking. One candy bar CAN kill you- maybe not right away, but it messes up your blood glucose, interferes with the insulin response, and leads to more cravings- which slow your healing even more if you give into them.

One candy bar can undo weeks of careful work on your diet.

I also disagree with your statement that "some people will eventually need insulin no matter what they do." You are 100% in control of everything you put into your mouth. The right diet can heal you.

I'm not saying you should avoid medications, including insulin, if they're indicated- but you should see medications as a temporary fix, a band-aid to keep a serious problem in check until you're able to heal the underlying issues. Your diabetes progressing to the point that more meds are needed is a sign that you've done something wrong- something that you DO have the power to change.

It's hard to combine the BTD Diabetes book with the Heart Disease book with the GTD. When you've got multiple health issues, SWAMI is truly the way to go. Following an individualized plan will probably eliminate cravings for the unhealthy foods that keep setting you back.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I disagree with people here strongly.

First get Deflect. Your cardiovascular issues I am sure were greatly influenced by lectins. In one of the books or somewhere Dr. D has talked about the problem of lectins attaching to the walls of the cardiovascular system and causing damage. It might be a bigger problem for Warriors but I would NOT put it past anyone else.

Yes bladderwarck is a "scrubber".

Where I disagree is the "one candy bar". If you are eating the things that repair you and make you feel good it will make the allowance of eating something bad not as awful for you.

What do you eat that is anti-inflammatory; do you eat pineapple?

Start on Deflect, and do as many of these as easily available to you. I recommend just getting more of them as food sources in you as opposed to supplements, at this point. Bromelain comes from pineapple; cayenne and ginger you can just consume. Cayenne is nice on food, ginger is great to brew by boil. You might be asking why but... if you reduce inflammation you may see great recovery in the cardiovascular system.

BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Glucosamine sulphate, 500 mg: 1-2 capsules away from food, twice daily
   2. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve
   3. Ginger root (Rhizoma Zingiberis: Zingiber officinalis)
   4. Cayenne pepper (Capsicum sp), 300 mg: 1-2 capsules with meals
   5. Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell O): 2 capsules daily

I would recommend taking Alpha-Lipoic Acid as a supplement. It is important to have a functioning neuro-system in order for regular function, recovery, and appropriate insulin balance.

What do you do for exercise?
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DOS,

Goldie has said she doesn't take DEFLECT anymore because she has already healed her intestinal issues.

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Deflect  was always mentioned for intestinal issues.. I had solved mine long ago.. in broad strokes with food alone.. so had no need for more.. BUT if there is a scrubber.. the I may just add it in future..


From my understanding, Goldie only gave up coffee two weeks ago, so she's been drinking a pretty bad avoid for some time now.


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MileHighRob  yes I have done A1C tests that is where I get my numbers.. Interestingly (at least for me surprising) after starting on Meds last MAY .. my numbers have risen ..


KimonoKat In the diabetes book it was not mentioned.. maybe I should have but I never connected the two as you indicate above..

coffee contradiction:  when I drank coffee on a regular basis, even decaf I NEVER knew HOW peaceful my intestines could feel.. I did not ever realize that I was still having issues until I changed last month to a spoon of cocoa in water in the morning...  

THE stomach pain issues I said I fixed was 32 years of stomach pain because of milk in my diet then ...

BTD and Geno allows for chocolate.. I switched from Geno to BTD last April and diabetes book because the test said so.. I was pleased to go back to meat as I like that better then turkey on GENO..  I also like the green leafy vegetables..

  
ruthiegirl   you are right in all you are saying.. now I am wondering if the cup cocoa this last month might actually do harm.. ?? need to evaluate it.. (it helped me get OFFFFF coffee ..no cravings since I drink it.. (by comparison I had bad reactions to Carob extract- one drop a day- and maybe that is also showing up in the A1C. I had tried it as a way to deal with sugar issues.. BUT I stopped when I had gained 7 pounds in 10 days...- neutrals often react badly with me.. )

There is a test to see IF I ever will be needing insulin.. I will know in a few days.. apparently there is a type pancreas more prone to such outcome..Yet you are right.. if I was able to reverse my genetic history, then just maybe who knows.. for now I am still many meds away, but I wanted to find out- so I did what is called C Peptide test. that will tell me a little more about me in a few days.    

You are correct Swami is my next step..  
  
Destroyer of Smiles.   yes I will get he deflect as it addresses my nerve issues.. Thanks for that...
Yes I eat pineapples and prunes.  I will increase the pineapple if that would be better.  Maybe the prunes are to many? 1/4 cup a day..  

Bromelain comes from pineapple; cayenne and ginger I am super pleased to hear all that.. I am eating cayenne.. but have not added Ginger I will do so right away .. how much and fresh or how to judge??
I Have long thought about that...

AND IN FACT I AM ON long-term LOW dose VALTREX since June and will remain on it for a year.. for my severe inflammation from teeth, and bouts with herpes nerve pain .. a result of then severe inflammation...
maybe another contributing factor to bad numbers? I don't have a guess.. but the nerve blistering at least is gone..

BUT ginger is going to be easy.. and actually there are some other spices I could try.. dandelion I will drink comes spring in juice form.. Fenugreek, Chickweed, Hops, Linden, Mulberry, Peppermint, Rosehip, Sarsaparilla, Slippery elm.. or whatever SWAMI will tell me..      


BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Glucosamine sulphate, 500 mg: 1-2 capsules away from food, twice daily
   2. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve
   3. Ginger root (Rhizoma Zingiberis: Zingiber officinalis)
   4. Cayenne pepper (Capsicum sp), 300 mg: 1-2 capsules with meals
   5. Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell O): 2 capsules daily

I would recommend taking Alpha-Lipoic Acid as a supplement. It is important to have a functioning neuro-system in order for regular function, recovery, and appropriate insulin balance.

I had a bad time wrapping my head around the facts of DIABETES but I am getting there.. but addressing the cardio vascular issues will help as I long expected that to be on issue..  

... as for exercise.. I walk 20 minutes .. dislike it..


... as for coffee... yes indeed I was bad for a long long time.. even when I had given it up for month I still always went back to decaf.. .. lesson absorbed..  but now I am wondering if the cocoa will do harm??  but at least I am no longer feeling like I am starving..

the other issue is that I am still 40 pds over the limit ..I only lost the 7 pounds recently added..  


THANKS all your input is making this much easier for me.. as I knew it would..




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Destroyer of Smiles.   yes I will get he deflect as it addresses my nerve issues.. Thanks for that...
Yes I eat pineapples and prunes.  I will increase the pineapple if that would be better.  Maybe the prunes are to many? 1/4 cup a day..  


Aren't prunes concentrated sugar?????On gatherer diet it is black dot.

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Aren't prunes concentrated sugar?????On gatherer diet it is black dot.


Read Goldie's shield. She doesn't follow Gatherer.  She follows BTD.


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Imma just sayin might be a bad idea to eat lots of that.
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Goldie- on your container of prunes, read serving size and also read number of carbohydrates.

fruit serving=15 carbohydrates a serving

if your container says 7 prunes= 15 carbohydrates, see how many fit in the 1/4 cup, you have been using.

so if 14 prunes fit in the 1/4 cup that is two servings of fruit for a diabetic=30 grams
so it depends, on whether you have anything else with it. to how it will affect you glucose.  If you have a small handful of walnuts, with it. Your glucose will NOT raise up, as much as it would if you don't.  Or an ounce of meat/fish/poultry, will work the same way, for you.

To test this, take your glucose reading before you eat it. Eat 15 grams worth of prunes and 8 half walnuts, or 1 oz of above mentioned.  Wait three hours, take again. and see what your level it.

if it was 100, in three hours from when you finish, it should be 100, again.(A little variance, is ok)

if you take it two hours from when you began eating it, it will be about 140, and then will drop
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Imma just sayin might be a bad idea to eat lots of that.


They're still concentrated sugar whether GTD or BTD.  



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Goldie I am looking forward to hearing about improvement!

The coffee, wow, it is a big step but maybe one of the best steps.

Deflect is good because it has multiple things in it. Do realize there could be very. very, minor lectins in things that are good for you because the good out weights the bad. I think the Bladderwrack is what will matter the most.

Ginger you can use it as a spice. I like to chop up into small pieces around 1/8-1/4 cup and boil it in water. It makes a strong "tea" that seems to absorb the better qualities of ginger. It does things other anti-inflammatories do not, especially for circulation.

Pineapple has the Bromelain which is specific to inflammation and recommended as a supplement under the protocols, so yes I would want to eat it more than I would prunes.

Exercise forgive me but I do not recall if you have any impairments preventing it. Getting blood flow from increased heart right has high value especially in areas not recovering due to poor blood flow that was a result of inflammation (maybe caused be lectin damage or high blood sugar). That is why massages due well for recovering areas of the body, and it practiced in rehab centers. What do I suggest for exercise? I dunno whatever you feel you can do to kick your own butt a little. I know that any slightly active for of Yoga will do it. I did check and realize you are 67 so I am not surprised you have not turned to Marathon running.
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Goldie I apologise if this has already been mentioned but i couldn't see anyone suggest increasing your fluids.  As an O negative drinking mineral water/plain soda water is supposed to be a beneficial and will help keep you hydrated.
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I almost forgot, physical exercise stimulates thyroids. Just a thought. There is a lot of recommendations for Blood Type O to get exercise. Albeit being diabetic etc does not encourage exercise when you feel less than great.
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YOU ARE ALL RIGHT> > MORE water to drink and ginger tea, exercise, and pineapples.. fewer prunes.. and olive leaf extract... thanks all of you for coming 'over for a cup of 'tea'.. nice..makes this lonely journey like a cruise with friends..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, Can you get your chromium levels checked (via a blood test). Your levels might be very low and, if this is the case, supplements might help. Lots of people with diabetes are low in chromium.


I will look into that.. thanks agin..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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YOU ARE ALL RIGHT> > MORE water to drink and ginger tea, exercise, and pineapples.. fewer prunes.. and olive leaf extract... thanks all of you for coming 'over for a cup of 'tea'.. nice..makes this lonely journey like a cruise with friends..  


I had a nice time chatting & sipping my green tea.   
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I'd love to join you for a cup of tea also, Goldie   Or how about Yerba Mate?  

As for ginger, it is something I grew up eating so I can offer some ideas. How about chopping it up into tiny bits and use it to marinate your meat? Gives it a wonderful "zing"   I usually put the ginger into my "fake soy sauce" and add lots of garlic into it too. Another way of eating it is simply slice it up and put it on top of fish when you steam it. Helps take away the fishiness, too. I also use it to do stir fries from time to time.

As for exercise, is there is pool near where you live so you can swim a little? It's supposed to be good cardio exercise without the pressure on the joints.


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