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Goldie
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I am so shocked that my numbers have not gotten better.. but actually got worse..

I will take a test to see if my pancreas will be working in future with just medication..or not at all then needing insulin..

so here is what I eat.. ( the crossed out I could have but dont care for..

MY question .. after I finish swami.. need to do that.. would I be able to positively IMPACT the diabetes with more of DR D's sups as in complete tprotocols?? I have taken some but never all at once..


BTD Prot: 4oz Beef 2x a day Tuna,Turkey/Egg-whites- 2 whole eggs.

OILS: Olive Walnut, Almond, Benef. Coconut,  Flax Nutr

VEGGIES: Beet greens, Broccoli, Chicory, Collard, Kale,
Escarole, Mitake, Seaweed, Spinach, Swiss Chard
Super Benef.
- Artichoke, Carrot, Dandelion, Horseradish, Kohlrabi,  
Romaine, Onion, Pumpkin, Turnip neut, Fiddle head,
  Mushrooms, Garlic all Benef.


FRUIT: Blueberry, Pineapple, Plum, Prune Super Benef.
- Cherry, Figs, Guava, Mango, Avocado and Prickly Pear,
  Pomegranate, Benef
- Banana 2x a month high glycemic,

SPICES: Fenugreek, Super B... Cayenne Pepper, choc..
- Carob, Ginger Horseradish, Parsley,
  Seaweed Basil, Bay leave, Yeast brewers and bakers,
  Oregano, Saffron, Tarragon - Benef..

--Turmeric moved to seldom - Neutral.
- Cinnamon, Mayo, Apple cider vinegar, Stevia AVOID!  

NUTS: Filberts Hazel,/ Walnut Super Benef  
-Pumpkin seed is Beneficial

Drinks: cocoa in hot water.. and occasional Grapefruit juice..

I am at wits end.. unless its the icecream I ate this summer?? one scoop a day? stopped a month ago.
      


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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You're eating well.......there are supps that help a lot.....(gymnemma sylvestre, cinnamon)
and exercize......long walks.....good luck! keep us posted.
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Andrea AWsec
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Goldie are you still eating ice cream?


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I'm taking Glycosia which helps with blood sugar control.  Do you take it?


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Goldie
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yes.. 2 glycosia a day.. since about 3 month..

gave up icecream beg October..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Did you have an A1C? that is a 3 month check on your blood sugar if you where still eating ice cream just last month it would still be evident on your blood test.


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I know you've had some real problems with temptations and cravings, and you haven't always been sucessful at resisting those temptations.

I suspect that a BIG part of the problem is those "avoids" that you've let sneak into your diet in the past.

I bet that your numbers will improve as soon as you get back to 100% compliance- let this scary lab test be a "wake up call" to take your health seriously, as well as a ready excuse to say no to avoids you're offered in social settings.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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How much pumpkin are you eating? It is fairly high glycemic Pumpkin & carrots send my blood sugar up...
I'm not sure about turnip - but it might be worth checking the levels in that
Also, how much fruit do you eat? There are some of us that just can't do a lot of fruit...
Hope the next reading is better
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Goldie
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IN THE house..

I eat Zucchini twice a week.. a neutral  

ate 6 small turnips all year a neutral ? bad for me..

4 sweet potatoes this year  

Avocado or Mango twice a week each

24 oz of prunes in about 3 month

3 pineapple chunks-- I freeze-- 3 times a week ... I don't use the liquid..

grapefruit juice sometimes

OUTSIDE of the house

yes I had ice-cream this summer.. 1scoop with cone// no more since Oct.

I ate some peanuts on off about 3 weeks?? could that be a culprit as it is avoid for O's ? and it causes urine issues upon sneezing.  

I just had about a week of eating almonds two weeks ago.. neutral.. might be bad for me...

when I go out I might have a small amount of grains.. at most every other week.

I find 100% super-Beneficial compliancy near impossible.. I suppose I could .. but at least now with the cocoa the hunger seems to have subsided..The B6 and Magnesium might be helping also..

gave up chocolate since I am drinking the cocoa.. only ate 85% and finger nail size amounts daily before that.

had about 6 reg choc bars this year.

COULD my escapade into eating the NAPs Carob extract during a trial of about 3 weeks have caused me additional sugar issues?? I reacted  with a water gain of 5-7 pounds.. ate only the tip of a teaspoon /one drop at a time three times a day.. as it is all neutral and so for me difficult - might I really have sabotaged myself..??? I no longer use any of it.. in total I had used up maybe about 2-3oz before I stopped...   

giving up fruits might be a possibility, but at least I have no bathroom issues anymore.. used to be dried..
and DrD advises 3 fruit for balance even for diabetics????  

Thanks for the discussion.. I will see what happens in the next test.. I will find out IF I am ever going to need insulin or just be able to increase meds.. that is a big worry and I need to clear that up so I can stop the worry.. or start as the case might be..

ONE item I will really look into is the sups be it NAP or protocols and maybe other things like B6 which seems to be a big need for me.. familial inherited..  I will go to no less then 500 mg and keep the 500mg Magnesium as well ..  




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Can you swing getting a SWAMI done? It's entirely possible that one or two foods is setting you off, something that's currently "beneficial" that's really a "black dot" for you.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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The wrong lectins can mimic insulin....I agree with Ruthie....SWAMI might be your best option.


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Your pancreas, may not be working as well, as it was before.  That does not, mean you did something wrong.  When a diabetic, these things happen, and medications, or herbs/etc. needs to be adjusted.

Stress, can also be a factor, in raising the ha1c.  Need to try and relax, when stressed, if you are or was.

I think swami, might benefit you, at this stage, if you can financially swing it.  Then you will know, for sure, you are eating the right food, for you personally.

Best to you Joli!
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Goldie
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Thanks all after today I have a few days to get the SWAMI input and see what I am doing .. then I will see and my test will further show what to expect in future.  thanks for the encouragements it helps ...


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, in another post you said you ate a candy bar the day before your test. Quit sabatoging yourself!
Get a SWAMI (Pro) if you can and eat what it says. You have half the things crossed off your list. What if those are the very things that can help you?


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Quoted from AKArtlover
Goldie, in another post you said you ate a candy bar the day before your test. Quit sabotaging yourself!
Get a SWAMI (Pro) if you can and eat what it says. You have half the things crossed off your list. What if those are the very things that can help you?


Goldie, as a diabetic, when you eat a candy bar or an ice cream cone, you might as well be grabbing a bottle of poison. It's no joke for you.  If you want a good quality of life, I think you should stop playing games with yourself and do what the rest of us with chronic health issues do. . exert ourselves to remain consistent.  
  
For many years, I have lived on superfoods and diamonds.  It's not impossible;  just requires a change of attitude, of accepting full accountability.  

Who is going to come along and save you if you tease yourself by eating poison?     



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Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Bladderwrack. Do it.

Also what is your exercise like?
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   ... the right king of food and the right kind of music helps everything run smoothly.  


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AS Ron-O-Non (actually an A) said about nonnies and sugar...IT IS OUR POISON.

As Ruthiegirl suggested...Swami-put the money into that instead of the chocolate bars and ice cream.  

And...GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER AVOIDS.

It is only hard if you make it that way...you can do it.  We've all been in the same boat.  

(((((Big hugs)))))

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Quoted from paul clucas
Your health is like a romance ...

   ... the right king of food and the right kind of music helps everything run smoothly.  


I'm sure you meant "kind" -- great quote PC.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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My husband says give the Twinky Diet a go.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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I'm sorry, Goldie.    I hope you find what works best for you.  I know how hard it is to avoid sweets.  You're not alone there, if it's any consolation.
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Quoted from Debra+
AS Ron-O-Non (actually an A) said about nonnies and sugar...IT IS OUR POISON.

As Ruthiegirl suggested...Swami-put the money into that instead of the chocolate bars and ice cream.  

And...GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER AVOIDS.

It is only hard if you make it that way...you can do it.  We've all been in the same boat.  

(((((Big hugs)))))

Debra


I have come to believe that it has more to do with what you are eating than not eating. Dr. D has mentioned that at least a few times.

You can play push the food away all day but... and you might see slightly better results but... if you can provide what the body truly needs it should overcome these problems.

Again what is exercise like? Do you eat bladderwrack? I would think about SWAMI, the Genoharmonic foods are POWERFUL.
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Goldie,

Taking inventory is helpful.  I used to be a sugar addict and one day could be a diabetic (strong family history).  You are on the right path.  
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Thanks all again.. ///  I grew up eating sweets.. gave up near all .. but my Geno -fathers inheritance- is playing with my SOUL's mind.. the lesson I am to learn.. my lesson is learning and learning over and over again.. I learned that one candy bar is not going to kill me, two might, but I am also confused about insulin.

Some who are in need of insulin have different needs than those who will never need insulin.. I think that makes a big difference.. not all will ever need insulin.. others will eventually need it no matter what they do.  I am currently finding out what category I will fit.. I will need to deal with either of the outcomes.  

I am going to see if the Geno diet is taking that into consideration .. Swami will tell me.

I am still asking what about all the effects diabetes has way before it comes on in middle age.. I believe it starts much earlier, maybe even at birth.. learning about that is important..even if it will never matter to my life.

The foods that are crossed out may be added some day -but I don't like them - so its hard to add them..

but yes ..the darn avoid I ate are easier to give up since I am drinking cocoa for now .. it seems to work keeping other cravings down..  Little by little I am finding ways to cope.. with all your advise its going to be easier..


WHY Bladder wrack?? I need to read up on that.. and yes running in circles might have to become my way of life ..  
  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Cinnamon is very helpful in balancing blood sugar, also you need enough healthy fats. You'll find your way  
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