I just came back from my Naturopathic Doctor who use to work with Peter Dadamo's father years back.  She diagnosed me as having deep vein thrombosis.  My leg looks like a bunch of scabs and is also inflamed and swollen.  I think my second pregnancy finally caught up with me.  I hope the remedies she prescribed help to clear this up!

curious...what did she prescribe?

This is what she wrote up on the prescription:

horse chestnut (I need to check with Nature's Emporium about capsules I think)
witch hazel (topical application)
Paeonia plex, Hammamelis plex by Seroyal for thrombophlebitis @ 5 drops each 3x/day to 10 drops each 3x/day

She based the prescription on muscle testing.  She has had good results with the drops.  I am also to wear a tensor bandage after applying cream to my leg and keeping it elevated when I can.  


(It is my right leg which is also swollen at the ankle and keeps rupturing all over the place.  A little scary but it wasn't diagnosed earlier because I am a small frame.  Thankfully we got to the bottom of the problem.  I kept thinking it was eczema and I was going through a healing crisis since I upped the superfoods and juicing.)

I have other deficiencies based on the vitamin/mineral questionnaire but we need to get this under control first.  Welcome to aging I guess :/

Add some White Oak Bark to that.  Within days of taking it all my varicose veins vanished.  I kept up with it throughout the rest of the last pregnancy and quit taking it after the baby was born.  They haven't returned.

Thanks for the info.

Shouldn't I be going to a medical doctor to get a ultrasound for blood clots in DVP?  Apparently these are the needed tests to confirm.  From what I've read these clots if existent need to be dissolved or they can break off and travel to the lungs.

have your Dr determine the protocol you will be following.....
follow her advice exclusively.

Especially being a B I would also highly recommend transdermal magnesium. This will help give your body what it needs so you won't have to keep taking herbs when things flare up again. You body needs nutrition to heal.

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Thanks for the info.

Shouldn't I be going to a medical doctor to get a ultrasound for blood clots in DVP?  Apparently these are the needed tests to confirm.  From what I've read these clots if existent need to be dissolved or they can break off and travel to the lungs.

Yes, you should and ASAP! I had a deep vein trombosis in my right knee, but my symptoms were not those you'd normally see. Not until the ultra sound did they know for sure. The problem with blood clots is that you are not allowed to move until it is dissolved (which they do with bloodthinners). You don't want that clot to move, it could go anywhere and then get stuck somewhere else (like your brain or heart).

Deep Vein trombosis is a very serious condition, it damages the valves in your veins (because it stops the blood from flowing) and if not treated well and soon you can be struggling with terrible leg pain for the rest of your life.

Not trying to scare you here, but I am speaking from experience. My leg is still painful at times (and it's over 10 years ago I had it), and retains water like crazy unlike my other leg which is fine. I can't stand for long periods of time and when it gets cold, the leg gets painful.

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Yes, you should and ASAP! I had a deep vein trombosis in my right knee, but my symptoms were not those you'd normally see. Not until the ultra sound did they know for sure. The problem with blood clots is that you are not allowed to move until it is dissolved (which they do with bloodthinners). You don't want that clot to move, it could go anywhere and then get stuck somewhere else (like your brain or heart).

Deep Vein trombosis is a very serious condition, it damages the valves in your veins (because it stops the blood from flowing) and if not treated well and soon you can be struggling with terrible leg pain for the rest of your life.

Not trying to scare you here, but I am speaking from experience. My leg is still painful at times (and it's over 10 years ago I had it), and retains water like crazy unlike my other leg which is fine. I can't stand for long periods of time and when it gets cold, the leg gets painful.

Totally agree. Peacefully and calmly go to the hospital. Blood clots aren't something to mess with.

Thanks.  I'm not sure if it's a blood clot until I see an ultrasound report so I'll get one as soon as I can.

My beef is why doesn't my ND tell me to get an ultrasound to check for clots?

Maybe your ND thinks they know better. And maybe he/she having seen you doesn't feel that it is something to worry about. Than again maybe he/she is stressed, not follow the btd and is exhausted from working so hard and isn't thinking straight.

I once went to an ND that was touted by many as being the very best in the large city I was living in. So I went to him and he literally was falling asleep while I was talking to him. SERIOUSLY! I shouldn't have paid for that appointment. I got nothing of worth from going in to see him. Every ND is different as is the case with our amazing Dr. D.

So really you should ask him/her why they don't feel it's serious enough for an ultrasound to check for blood clots.

I just came from the medical drop in clinic and the doctor said I was misdiagnosed by the ND and it is not a DVP since a DVP is further up the calf.  She said I have cellulitis and need to use a cream and antibiotics.  So I'm right back where I started from.  Not impressed!

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I just came from the medical drop in clinic and the doctor said I was misdiagnosed by the ND and it is not a DVP since a DVP is further up the calf.  She said I have cellulitis and need to use a cream and antibiotics.  So I'm right back where I started from.  Not impressed!

I am just very happy for you that it's not trombosis. Trust me, been there, done that, it's definitely no fun!

Better safe than sorry though. Good for you for getting checked again. Even with ND's there are good ones and not so good ones. Just because he said he worked with Dr. D's dad means nothing. That really sucks though. Like I said before... transdermal magnesium oil especially because of you being a B.

There are a few factors...

First I would get on Intrinsa.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP054

The reason is that inflammation in the whole system often starts in the intestines. Inflammation in the intestines seems to manifest after damage. That is my understanding and I would like Dr. D's comments on that... He has mentioned it being an issue for Explorers were inflammation can start at the intestinal level. Obviously for Type B NO balance is important but I am confident your general B type guidelines you follow do that for you... The gut however can take some extra work to heal.

Anyways if the intestines are inflamed easily - even by things that are overall beneficial to you - you can get inflammation of the cardiovascular system (I deal with this, and know a lot of people with "poor circulation", to which anti-inflammatoriess correct within minutes often). Provisions against this I can not recommend enough. The GTD body of work is based on intestinal health because without it you will only be able to intermediately entertain health with a balance that is annoying demanding of precision that is hardly attainable in a world were you have any responsibilities.

Next... It is not that I want to insult your Naturopath but... Dr D's protocols work like you would not believe. I find Bromelain is expansively good at reducing inflammation larger cardiovascular system, and intestines. The rest of them I would grab as is available easily but would not make a president out of them. Cat's Claw is probably easy to get at a herb store.

BLOOD GROUP B Anti-inflammatory

   1. MSM (methylsulfonylmethane), 500 mg: 1-2 capsules, twice daily
   2. Cat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa), 500 mg: 1-2 capsules, twice daily
   3. OPCs (oligomeric proanthocyanidins), 100 mg: 1 capsule, daily
   4. Curcumin (Turmeric: Curcuma longa), 95% curcuminoids, 300-500 mg: 1 capsule, once or twice daily
   5. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve
      Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell B): 2 capsules daily

Blood Thinner Foods

Garlic
Ginger
Lemon juice

I have a beef with anyone doing strength testing just becasue of the above.. it is so wishi washi .. yes it can help but in the end I don't alone trsut anything.. I do the tests.. if there are any and I test ME with whatever I do.. I have a rule i dont always follow.. but 3 visits with a doc and if he does not create success then its time to move on,.. taking respponsibility fro my self..

NOW for the OVER REACTION of the first ND above.. just maybe she saved your foot!!! don't take anything lightly, sometimes its the foult that causes us to look for anwers.. If you needed all that she prescribt than I would continue it all if you think it helped.. and add the other stuff until its all used up!!

Thanks for the above feedback.

I took the drops back the the ND since I don't like treating somehting that doesn't exit.  The inflammation does turn up on my face as well around ovulation and my period.  I have found that B5 complex has really helped keep my face flares to a minimum but not getting rid of them entirely.

My leg is another problem.  For the past 3 years I have experienced itchy legs in the winter and always used Aveeno because it was the only cream that worked.  Last year my legs hated Aveeno and I ended up with an organic cream lotion that worked for a while.  However, last January in the cold snap (-30 celcius) I awoke with major leg itching even thought they were moistured before bed.  Since then my right leg has been up and down with the eczema (my MD told me I had at the time).  Now it covers my full bottom right leg and the top of my right foot.  Very bad.  So I am thinking that this all started when I tried to improved my diet and take more cleansing foods like chlorella.  I just finished 3 bottles and am fresh out of chlorella.  I also went through 2 containers of Harmonia during the summer because I had such bad asthma in the humidity.

This could be my intestines but I have pretty good regularity lately.  I believe it may be my liver/gallbladder needing some help and the toxins are trying to get out through my skin.  I have no proof of this though.  I know that if I take milk thistle in capsule form, they make me have nausea and I cannot take them in that strength.  

I ordered the SWAMI.  It is my guess I am an Explorer since I do have chemical sensitivities.

As for supplements.  I have to wait on any others since I just bought the Multivitamin for GT and Phytocal.  I am concentrating on my B's at the moment.  I do take PolyFlora and almost finished the bottle but I do not take it all the time.  I have a probiotic powder by Genestra that I put in smoothies.

I stay away from gluten and sugar for the most part so I don't see how my intestines could be inflamed.  I do use slippery elm in my smoothies sometimes and it is in the fiber blend as well.  

My ND did recommend Quercetin but the one she gave me caused me indigestion so I assume it was because it was not mixed with Bromelain.  I ended up giving the bottle to a friend.  Next time I will try one with Bromelain mixed in.

I've given up on visiting Naturopaths at the moment.  It's so  much money to waste.  I will probably do better trying to heal myself.  I am a bit discouraged.  I don't like the thought of seeing a dermatologist since I am chemically sensitive.  But my MD has me referred to one at Sunnybrook Hospital.  It's a long waiting list.

My focus now is my liver and my intestines though along with dealing with stress during my cycle with the B vitamins.  Entering 45 is a bit rough this year so I'm looking forward to getting off this rollercoaster.

Destroyer of Smiles I have been putting tumeric in my dishes

I am getting a Sprout Master for Christmas

Yes, Lemon, Garlic and Ginger have been in my diet

Thanks for the rest of the list.  

Where do I find OPC's?

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Thanks for the above feedback.

I took the drops back the the ND since I don't like treating somehting that doesn't exit.  The inflammation does turn up on my face as well around ovulation and my period.  I have found that B5 complex has really helped keep my face flares to a minimum but not getting rid of them entirely.

My leg is another problem.  For the past 3 years I have experienced itchy legs in the winter and always used Aveeno because it was the only cream that worked.  Last year my legs hated Aveeno and I ended up with an organic cream lotion that worked for a while.  However, last January in the cold snap (-30 celcius) I awoke with major leg itching even thought they were moistured before bed.  Since then my right leg has been up and down with the eczema (my MD told me I had at the time).  Now it covers my full bottom right leg and the top of my right foot.  Very bad.  So I am thinking that this all started when I tried to improved my diet and take more cleansing foods like chlorella.  I just finished 3 bottles and am fresh out of chlorella.  I also went through 2 containers of Harmonia during the summer because I had such bad asthma in the humidity.

This could be my intestines but I have pretty good regularity lately.  I believe it may be my liver/gallbladder needing some help and the toxins are trying to get out through my skin.  I have no proof of this though.  I know that if I take milk thistle in capsule form, they make me have nausea and I cannot take them in that strength.  

I ordered the SWAMI.  It is my guess I am an Explorer since I do have chemical sensitivities.

As for supplements.  I have to wait on any others since I just bought the Multivitamin for GT and Phytocal.  I am concentrating on my B's at the moment.  I do take PolyFlora and almost finished the bottle but I do not take it all the time.  I have a probiotic powder by Genestra that I put in smoothies.

I stay away from gluten and sugar for the most part so I don't see how my intestines could be inflamed. I do use slippery elm in my smoothies sometimes and it is in the fiber blend as well.  

My ND did recommend Quercetin but the one she gave me caused me indigestion so I assume it was because it was not mixed with Bromelain.  I ended up giving the bottle to a friend.  Next time I will try one with Bromelain mixed in.

I've given up on visiting Naturopaths at the moment.  It's so  much money to waste.  I will probably do better trying to heal myself.  I am a bit discouraged.  I don't like the thought of seeing a dermatologist since I am chemically sensitive.  But my MD has me referred to one at Sunnybrook Hospital.  It's a long waiting list.

My focus now is my liver and my intestines though along with dealing with stress during my cycle with the B vitamins.  Entering 45 is a bit rough this year so I'm looking forward to getting off this rollercoaster.

Inflammation is not just from gluten and sugar.

Inflammation comes from lectin damage.

get an encyclopedia.....
it s like having a stay home Dr D with you!!!

Lola,

Good point

Andrea,

You are right.  Even though I am major blood type compliant, I still encounter lectins when I am not so you do have a point.  I will probably order Deflect soon.  It's been a while.

Luana