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Possum
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I think I touched on the slight mould issues with the lining of our curtains in a previous thread??

We also have a large spot on our carpet where a pot plant leaked, which is still waiting to be dealt with... Dampish smell is noticeable if we have been out all day or away...but no actual breathing issues here....

Also, I think it has only recently started happening, but I have been sneezing in the early evening, quite a few times, each time I come up to the study to "work"...

I was gonna add to the original thread but thought I'd start a new one...
I noticed that I was pretty fine re reactions to food while away & have decided, since having had more reactions on our return, that I am allergic to New Zealand
Kinda joking but not entirely...
Since Symbi's link on mould http://www.mold-survivor.com/dietcopyright.html I have been doing a lot of researching & thinking....
As I said...
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After being back a week, I noticed my skin started to break out again & from that site you posted, I see all the things I had reintroduced (after getting more confident - or was that cocky/blase - since it was pretty good while away) are all the foods with potential for mould Cheese, millet, bananas, even some rice syrup & a protein cookie with almond meal...(wonder also about tahini *sigh* No wonder my stomach was making different noises Back to the drawing board... Oh & I see there is a great link for curtain demoulding product - that's another thing; our curtain lining needs cleaning
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So...re the sneezing - I'm pretty sure I can attribute that to the mould issue in the study... & a (nother) funny thing happened at work last Thursday...I used some lemongrass oil to get rid of a pesky large fly (a natural insect repellent) & noticed that my boss & I immediately started to cough Then my cough developed into get a sore throat & by night I was feeling quite ordinary...
Now I never get sick so researched lemongrass & am pretty sure I am allergic to it... I seem to react to most of the oils we use at work & there is a long lost of ones that are potential allergens...   

Since last week I have also had more reactions to the mould at home & car fumes...It's  almost as if my sensory responses have gone into over drive... Mr P mutters that I  have just caught a cold but I am fine anywhere away from fumes/mould... As soon as I go into a room that has mould that needs cleaning I start up again...

Question is: re cleaning the mould off windowsills, do I wait till I am better or make myself worse cleaning right now? I can't do much about the curtains or the carpet as they are a major undertaking

I am also coming to the conclusion that my reactions/allergies are to the environment I live in, more than the foods I eat ala being able to eat much more freely in the drier climate of LA Hence the getting cocky re food issues on our return...
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Did you check whether you have candida? People with candida tend to react badly to mould.

As for the carpet and curtains: I would replace them as soon as possible. (I even had part of a wall replaced a few years back because of mould - it made a big difference).
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immune enhancing and other respiratory protocols come to mind
also, wear a mask, when handling

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm


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Cool, thanks Lola   Meant to ask whether I should wear a mask

Curious - That was my thought too re the possibility of candida   But tbh the possibility of reactions to mould or candida hadn't entered my head as the "symptoms" have not been normal...Which is why I hadn't focussed on either...

I do not & never have had thrush anywhere & with the mould reaction, I would have thought hay feverish symptoms would have been more the norm??!! But then again I shoud have realised, nothing is normal with me
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Hi Possum,
Last year I was working in a very moldy environment. I got sick after 3 days and it just kept morphing into different symptoms; a cold, then into my chest, cough, nose, etc. I finally dragged myself to the doctor at the insistence of my boss and it was immediately diagnosed as mold. I could smell it at the workplace! I had to leave. The building was too big to get away from it and I wasn't confined to just one area where I could try to purify the air. My workplace was killing me!

Good luck to you. I hope you find a manageable solution. I have candida as well but my only symptom is a constant runny nose. I don't have any of the classic symptoms.

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I think I remember you saying about having to leave your job!! That's too bad WF

I forgot to add re not thinking I had candida... I do have weird stuff going on with some of my toenails now... The two big ones & one middle one are thicker??!! This only started happening in last few months (or I just noticed it) & I have what appears to be a healed case of tinea between my little toes - although it never hurt - just looks like dry skin now...Never noticed that either...

Since I was 12 & went on a 13 mile walkathon in brand new sneakers & got huge blisters all over my feet (what was my Mother thinking? I have always had squashed looking nails on my little toes & hardly any growth...
Must have killed those little nails as they have been almost non existent since then So I don't know if they are effected by the same thing (if it is fungal)
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Question is: re cleaning the mould off windowsills, do I wait till I am better or make myself worse cleaning right now? I can't do much about the curtains or the carpet as they are a major undertaking
Clean it...  As much as possible so that you can live...  You really need to have somewhere you can go that isn't constantly making you worse or you'll never get better.

If humidity is a constant problem, you may need to get a dehumidifier to reduce the moisture in the air to a reasonable level.



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It's not as bad now that it is spring - heading into summer... I am going to get a mask tomorrow & tackle the cleaning, now that I am recovering Seriously it hadn't been a problem, till I had that reaction to the lemon grass

& believe it or not, I do have a dehumidifier!! Must start using it... I brought it home, intending to use it & Mr Control Pants (love him to bits, but... ) freaked at the idea of it costing money to run
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Hi Possum,
Last year I was working in a very moldy environment. I got sick after 3 days and it just kept morphing into different symptoms; a cold, then into my chest, cough, nose, etc. I finally dragged myself to the doctor at the insistence of my boss and it was immediately diagnosed as mold. I could smell it at the workplace! I had to leave. The building was too big to get away from it and I wasn't confined to just one area where I could try to purify the air. My workplace was killing me!
That is happening to me right now.
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Hi Possum!

I have some of the same issues.  When I get a cold especially I smell dust (all the time) and mould when exposed to it (all around our house), car fumes etc nasal passages all narrow (sinusitis has been called asthma of the nose!).  Also get asthma - all signs of reactivity I guess.

I also can smell dust all the time when it's bad, do you get that?  Here are some ideas about it http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_causes_you_to_smell_dust_all_the_time_even_though_your_house_is_clean (yeah who's house is 100% 'clean' - I wish!   )
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/A.....passages/show/918428

It could be called allergic rhinitis which includes hay fever as well as other inhalant allergies (is associated with asthma too) http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000813.htm

Mine is much better since I started using a saline nasal spray in my nose every day (or could use neti pot).  I think it washes some of the allergens etc away and stops them from blocking (probably narrow from years of sinusitis).  Have only had sinusitis once in 6 months used to be chronic.  (When I do get sinusitis I inhale tea tree oil in steam and it gets rid of it quick!)  

A funny thing, if I take panadol (tylenol) (very rarely) my reactions to mould get bad again.  I got severe asthma and allergic rhinitis when I tried St John's Wort (must be allergic to ragweed which it is a relative of too).  All of those things affect the liver detoxification pathways, so I wonder if it's to do with the liver not being able to detox the toxins released by, you guessed it - I'll say it again, mould toxins!  (Mould has become a swear word in our house since it bothers me so much that I want to move which we can't afford, we have a room covered in it from top to toe after winter every year.  Found out that mould is worse in winter because of condensation.  It's cold outside and warm inside makes condensation form on the walls feeding mould.)

Vinegar is your friend for cleaning it.  http://www.care2.com/greenliving/three-ways-to-kill-mold-naturally.html#
http://www.howtocleanthings.com/how-to-clean-mold.htm
I saw a show "your house is killing you' said spray 100% white vinegar on, leave for 2 hours, spray more on and then use a microfibre cloth to clean it.  Should come clean off (vinegar feeds the mould and makes it implode and separate!)  Wear gloves and mash.

As usual too much info but I've been having some of the same things and researched it a bit lately!  Hope it helps!


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About your toes, y..ouch.  My Mum is suffering from something like that and has had many toenails removed the others are curving too.  They can do a biopsy to find out if it's fungal but it may be falsely negative

Here's some info I found and emailed to her.  You could well have yeastie beasties in your body and that will affect your mould detox pathways for sure.  Can also be affected by leaky gut I think.

http://www.nailfungusbliss.com/types-of-nail-fungus/curling-toenail-what-does-it-mean

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Re: Toenail Problem - not fungal
Jan 14, 2007
True nail fungus will cause the nail to become detached from the nail bed, the nail plate will thicken, turn a yellowish color and there will be apparent debris in the area of separation. You are right to keep it trimmed back - it is much easier to treat that way.

When the doctors do a scraping and send it to the lab to be grown into a culture, they send it in Thymol solution. The thymol tends to kill the spores, so by the time the lab grows a culture, the results will be negative. You have described a fungus infection in your post, so there are probably fungal spores under and in the nail plate. Keep using whatever seems to be working for you. Apply twice daily and keep the nail clean and dry. After showering, put a drop of alcohol under the nail and let it absorb any excess oisture and evaporate. Then apply your treatment of choice.

Since toenails grow at a much slower rate than fingernails, it can take up to a full year for the nail plate to completely replace itself with a new normal nail plate that is firmly attached. Do not forcfully 'dig' under the nail as this can pull up good tight nail plate and leave the toe sore as well as give the fungal spores a new avenue of attack.

Yes, the separated portion of nail plate will tend to curl into the skin, so you might want to keep it from doing so by pushing a tiny bit of cotton into and slightly under the nail plate to keep it from pushing into the skin. You can do this with a wooden toothpick.http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2743309&highlight=toenails+curl#2743309


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TJ - I lived in Hobart, Tasmania for 6 years & before that Adelaide South Australia for 12... Hobart is not as damp as Wellington & Adelaide was very dry & hot...

Symbi - thanks so much for all that info Once again no need to apologise... remember,  they do say knowledge is power

I haven't done the cleaning yet, but had thought the same re your suggestion of spraying it with vinegar, then spraying again before wiping it...

I could feel my allergies come & go during the week & it was definitely worse in certain rooms & driving the car, but better in between...(no I don't drive inside lol)

I even felt my throat tightening & had a coughing fit once as I was serving a customer... We were right near the oil burner at work...(& it wasn't even on) Poor woman thought it was her handcream...
I excused myself, went out the back & coughed & coughed, came back, had to excuse myself again... then we moved to the other side of the room...Guess what - no more coughing...so later, I scrubbed all the "old" oil off the burner

Interestingly, the shop where I was coughing has years of oil being burned in the atmosphere & furnishings & no real ventilation... whereas the other store is newer (but with second hand carpet)

I am just about over the stuffy nose I have had for over a week now, & my skin is amazingly better so avoiding mould foods (eggs, cheese, bananas, yeast foods etc) has worked!! Yay!! I feel like I am finally getting some answers there;)

Now to tackle the house mould & my toenails Btw I cut them right back & have been applying manuka oil - they are a lot better They also don't look anywhere near as bad as in that link (thank goodness)

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Hi Possum! I got severe asthma and allergic rhinitis when I tried St John's Wort (must be allergic to ragweed which it is a relative of too).  All of those things affect the liver detoxification pathways, so I wonder if it's to do with the liver not being able to detox the toxins released by, you guessed it - I'll say it again, mould toxins!  (Mould has become a swear word in our house since it bothers me so much that I want to move which we can't afford, we have a room covered in it from top to toe after winter every year.  Found out that mould is worse in winter because of condensation.  It's cold outside and warm inside makes condensation form on the walls feeding mould.)
Oooh I didn't know St John's wort is part of the ragweed family I am allergic to everything in that family & then some... I have always known it was not good for O's though

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You're welcome.  Get told by my Doctor stop looking at health info on the internet but it sure does give personal power and I've diagnosed more than she has!  

Yep good you didn't try SJW ever!  Chamomile and chrysanthemums (make me sneeze everytime) are also related to the ragweed family.  Didn't want to rag on em but it's true.   They reckon ragweed causes most hay fever (I get it too sometimes).  

Glad your skin is clearing up!  Coughing fit that's no good tho.  Carob might help that.  
Good on you for reducing mould in your diet.  Probably help your body handle environmental mould.  I only recently figured out that dried goji might be different if it was in SWAMI than just goji berries.  Doh!  They are quite mouldy.

Yep those toe nails were blechy!

I'm smelling dirt now all the time and have some mucus in my nose since I did hours of weeding a few days ago.  No doubt quite a bit of grade a topsoil in my nose, maybe potatoes will grow there now!   And headache today.  The nasal spray does help tho.  Do you do a neti pot or something like that?  Another great thing I learnt from forum buddies.

The oil burner, maybe you could try some other oils that might help open your sinuses like eucalyptus or tea tree oil.  Might make for very alert customers too?  


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Appreciate your research & you're right, you diagnose plenty (& as you say more than your Dr) My Boss rolled her eyes again & ticked me off for continuing to self diagnose!! I shot back with "well I know my body better than anyone else & I am getting results, so why wouldn't I?"  She shut up then Besides we hardly just self diagnose - we have a lovely panel of experts offering advice...

Interesting you mentioned SJW here, you know...I won a bottle of Artemis SJW in olive oil, at a seminar last week...It is a topical product called Nerve & skin Rescue Oil but am unsure to use it seeing as SJW is not recommended for O's...

re the potatoes growing up there... My Nana used to say, if any of us were "poking around" in our nose: "what are you digging for - potatoes?"
I'm not really needing a neti pot, but thanks for the suggestion - I am honestly all  over the nasal stuff now... I sometimes sniff the bottle of eucalyptus at work...Reminds me of "home"

But as for burning it; we don't want too many alert customers - they won't swallow the lines we feed them

lol at not wanting to "rag on them..." ragweed?? They should be used to it... I wonder if geraniums are related too? They stink!!
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remind me of another old saying, check for potatoes growing behind the ears!  


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I read only some about the mold .. A .. clean it by replacing things ... as it can not get cleaned washed or anything.. it just grows again..  

and husbands don't need to be dealing with decisions about your health.. getting ill costs lot's more.. turn on that humidifier.. to save your health.. turn it on facing the window as it will also have mold on the inside when it was standing a long time..

Get rid of any sick plants they are only sick because something is going on and throw of spurs that you inhale..

BUT MY WRITING is :  the nails.. NAILS I am making a BIG DEAL..... nails that are getting thick and or curve or flatten or have fungus under them.... ALL ARE A SYMPTOM that there is serious trouble brewing.. like cancer.. in time to come.. PLEASE don't take them lightly..

GET tot the bottom of WHY your IMMUNE system is not able to handle life as it is where you are.. It all shows just how we don't react to small warnings..  There was a jock.. that went :  a person was told a flood was coming and he answered : god will provide.. then three other people came with ever more urgent calls to enter the boat and help offers..he said no, god will provide.. finally when he drowned and asked god why did you not save me I trusted you.. God said.. how many boats do I need to send you??

I am one of these boats when it comes to feet and nails.. treat your feet with more care then your face.. they are the reflection of your health.. and it's late already..


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Thanks for that link Cristina!! I had forgotten about oil of cloves... Hmmm love that smell House should smell like Christmas

Cheers too, Goldie - appreciate your concern... I think tbh the toenails (which are just about fine now) are more to do with certain shoes I have never had thrush in either places but will keep a check on your suggestions...

Considering the fact that certain windows can't even be opened (badly designed house ) I have been living with this situation for over 6 years...& never get sick really; so my immune system can't be all that bad
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can't open the windows!  No wonder you get mould.  Wonder if putting a fan on in the dampish areas might help dry them even without windows open.

"Mix 2 drops of Oil of Cloves (which kills the mould spore) and a litre of water in a spray bottle, shake and mist thoroughly over the offending mouldy surface. Leave this on overnight so the oil can work on the mould - and the following day – steam up the room by turning on the hot tap for a while, then (using a parmesan cheese shaker), sprinkle the walls with bicarb soda, spray with white vinegar and scrub while it’s fizzing using a broom with pantyhose over the bristles."

great link Cristina - that's clever cleaning!


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Yeah - dumb house design!!! It's only one window in particular, mind...
Funny thing is I am sure I read on one of the links on a mould site, where they said NOT to open the windows... Am searching for it...
It was an added comment, also in conjunction with "vinegar doesn't work"... so who knows if they knew what they were talking about, or if they were just trying to sell some service (they were recommending something the average person can't buy )
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Bleach water works.

Also, despite the bad-mouthing it's gotten, Lysol works too if you follow the directions (i.e. leave it on for 10+ minutes, instead of wiping it off).
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Thanks... I have read that using bleach (& breathing it in) can be really bad & worse for some, than the undisturbed mould??
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use the dehumidifier and get rid of the mold. as it can not survive in dry air.. simple..


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I posted some information in this post...
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1288580049/s-299/#num299

Hope it helps...

Bleach can do significant harm if it is too strong or you breathe the fumes for too long...


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Thanks ABJoe!! Aaah the good old hydrogen peroxide!!?? Do you think it would get mould off the offwhite curtain linings?
I thought I may have been missing out on something by not reading the FS thread... Will have to do some catch up reading
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From the CDC website:
To remove mold growth from hard surfaces use commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution of no more than 1 cup of bleach in 1 gallon of water.


Apparently bleach in water isn't as effective in porous materials (wood, drywall, etc.)

If it was on the curtains I'd just throw them out!
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Hmmm there are rather a lot of them to then replace... Almost ceiling to floor (& 13 foot ceilings It is only the bottom of the linings & since they are so light, I figured they'd be easier to clean/"bleach" than if they were dark...
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Plan of Attack -- (this says bleach won't work on everything)

There are three steps to take when tackling mold in your home:
1. Identify sources of mold.
— Look for black, gray, brown or green patches on surfaces within your home. Important places to check include ceilings and walls, under sinks, along windowsills and doorways, around sinks and showers, the drip pan under the fridge and basements.
— Check towels, bath mats, shower curtains, washcloths and dish sponges.
— Trust your nose. If an area of your home smells moldy, it probably is.
2. Alter the environment to discourage mold growth.
— Promote airflow by opening windows and doors (even occasionally during the winter).
— Keep furniture a couple of inches away from walls.
— Contact a heating/cooling specialist to inspect and clean your air conditioner, furnace and ducts.
— Clean out the refrigerator drip pan regularly.
3. Remove and kill as much mold as possible.
— Regularly launder towels, bath mats and shower curtains. Pitch the plastic shower curtains and liners. Natural-fiber curtains like hemp will repel mold and can be thrown in the wash.
— You can kill molds and bacteria and extend the life of your dish sponges by boiling them for a few minutes once a week.
— Use a HEPA vacuum to clean floors and furniture.
Bleach will NOT remove mold. Because its chemical structure prevents it from penetrating porous materials like dry wall, grout and wood, bleach can’t reach roots of mold growing below the surface. When you spray a porous surface with bleach, the chemical sits on top, killing some visible mold, but the water in the solution soaks deeper and actually encourages further mold growth. For a safer and more effective approach, try these natural mold killers:
— Vinegar and baking soda. Fill a spray bottle with white vinegar, spray moldy surfaces and let it dry. Wipe clean, using more vinegar as needed. Repeat every few days to prevent re-growth. You can also mop with vinegar or add a couple of cups to a load of laundry. Add a teaspoon of baking soda to vinegar to further combat mold and odors.
— Peroxide. Fill a spray bottle with hydrogen peroxide and use the same way as vinegar. Since it’s a bleaching agent, it can help fade mold stains, but be sure to spot-test surfaces to make sure desired colors don’t fade.
— Borax. Borax, a natural stain and odor fighter, also works to kill mold. Mix a borax-water solution of 1 cup borax per gallon of water. Use a sponge or brush to scrub the solution into moldy surfaces, and wipe clean. Find Borax in the laundry detergent section of your supermarket.


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Cheers Chloe!!! That's a great Plan of Attack!!
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Allergy Control Protocol:

BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Frankincense (Boswellia serrata), 400 mg (standardized to contain 37.5%   boswellic acids): 2 capsules, twice daily
   2. Yerba mate tea (Ilex paraguariensis): 1-3 cups, daily
   3. Stinging Nettle leaves (Urtica dioica), 500 mg: 1 capsule twice daily
   4. Quercetin, 500 mg: 1 capsule with meals, 2-3X daily

NON-SECRETORS

   1. Schizandra/Wu-Wei-Zi berry (Schizandra chinensis), 450 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily

   2. Vitamin C (Preferably from acerola cherry or rose hips), 250 mg: 1 capsule daily

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS

   1. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 tablets four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing.
   2. Green tea: 1-3 cups, daily

Also, something I use every day with 1/2 tsp. sea salt to 1 C warm water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88RUnc8AQFc
It's in all our natural food stores and in various places on the web at different prices.



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Thanks Victoria... You know I am actually clear today with no supplements at all Only just remembered I had completely forgotten to take anything this morning...& have continued to forget all day

I had tried a blackcurrant vit c - has the equivalent of 20 currants per capsule & soon after taking one for the first time & with nothing else except a fish oil capsule, I got a spot on my cheek...

I'm also still trying to work out if I react to the acerola vit C that I have (it has a filler of tapioca flour) - took one last night, broke out in the same way but a little lower on cheek, by morning )

Bromelain definitely breaks me out; not so quercetin though...

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A propos oil of cloves,essential oil of cloves may also be carefully taken internally, in the right dilution. Last Wednesday I began a two-weeks treatment against gut parasytes given me by a Naturalist health caretaker, made according to Dr. Hulda Clark's formula, and it has a strong smell of cloves.


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Quoted from yaeli
A propos oil of cloves,essential oil of cloves may also be carefully taken internally, in the right dilution. Last Wednesday I began a two-weeks treatment against gut parasytes given me by a Naturalist health caretaker, made according to Dr. Hulda Clark's formula, and it has a strong smell of cloves.


Oil of cloves for mould cleaning, left overnight as suggested in links I posted above ... I like her approach to natural cleaning and treating ...  




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Quoted from Possum
Thanks ABJoe!! Aaah the good old hydrogen peroxide!!?? Do you think it would get mould off the offwhite curtain linings?

It won't hurt to try it, but borax may work better in the laundry...


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Thanks guys... Ooh I didn't think this thread would continue so long Heaps of useful stuff in here!! Most appreciative!!

Wondering re my sensitivity to most essential oils, how using oil of cloves will go? It is a  Gatherer black dot, but neutral for Explorers Even using manuka oil the other night made my eyes sting...

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Quoted from Possum
It is definitely either an Explorer or Gatherer avoid
Cloves are neutrals in my Swami.
They are very potent.
Dr. Clark's remedy includes of course other ingredients, I'll enquire.


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Thanks heaps yaeli Btw I just edited the info re cloves in my post above I was wrong - they are a black dot for Gatherers only (didn't have my book with me) I was thinking of nutmeg (which I am allergic to) & that is an avoid for Hunters...
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If the curtains are long enough cut the moldy part off.. if not .. cut the lining as far as is needed to get rid of the moldy parts.. just do what you can .. but always follow our nose..

THIS thread is helping a family here.. with kids who moved into a house with a basement bedroom that smells .. I now will send this thread to the family to avoid their teen who sleeps down stairs to get sick or harm his brain.. and become aware of the issue..
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I know that intervention is needed NOW so thanks all .. interesting how you never know what you learn around here.. keeping his furniture in the middle of the floor might be one thing.. running some fan is another through opening in the wall even.. I will definitely look into this as they have a dehumidifier and a ozonator -- incidentally both given to them by me years ago--  

Thanks all .. I am particularly concerned as I know what mold can do to kids brain cells.. mess up all common sense..


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BIG BIG ALERT..


I put my dish sponges after washing them in the washmachine and drying them -in the MICROWAVE for 40-50 seconds to sterilze them.. they don't smell moldy.. might be worth the try for the curtains.. test to make sure they don't melt.. maybe do several times for 20 seconds.. they should not touch the walls as they can burn a stain if left to long.. folding them and refolding might work better...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Possum,

I know exactly what you mean about the food v. the environment. As you said, we eat well but cannot always control our total environment.

I am going through this presently. My severe sinus issues are the only health problem I have. Any others were taken care of long ago just by following the teacher diet.

FYI...a simple painters/doctors mask is my required "attire" for house cleaning and gardening these days. My husband loves to build us cozy fires now that our weather is colder but I need to wear the mask just to sit and enjoy them.

Its interesting you mentioned being better in our drier climate. I live on the high desert of SoCal, which is the driest area of our state, and have these problems. Also interesting, when I travel to Europe, I am almost free of my sinus problems.
Maybe you and I just need to keep traveling!!! Good idea, no?


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Quoted from Goldie
I put my dish sponges after washing them in the washmachine and drying them -in the MICROWAVE for 40-50 seconds to sterilze them.. they don't smell moldy.. might be worth the try for the curtains.. test to make sure they don't melt.. maybe do several times for 20 seconds.. they should not touch the walls as they can burn a stain if left to long.. folding them and refolding might work better...  
Thanks Goldie You haven't seen the size of my microwave compared to my curtains then Mine is a large one but with 13' ceilings & 3 "french doors" that is a tall ask for any microwave

Glad this thread is helping others...as I was a tad at all the extra focus... especially as it continued to draw attention to my slack housekeeping

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Possum,
I know exactly what you mean about the food v. the environment. As you said, we eat well but cannot always control our total environment.

I am going through this presently. My severe sinus issues are the only health problem I have. Any others were taken care of long ago just by following the teacher diet.

FYI...a simple painters/doctors mask is my required "attire" for house cleaning and gardening these days. My husband loves to build us cozy fires now that our weather is colder but I need to wear the mask just to sit and enjoy them.

Its interesting you mentioned being better in our drier climate. I live on the high desert of SoCal, which is the driest area of our state, and have these problems. Also interesting, when I travel to Europe, I am almost free of my sinus problems.
Maybe you and I just need to keep traveling!!! Good idea, no?
Aww so sorry you are going through so much...especially having to wear a mask on just to enjoy the cozy fireside Must make romantic evenings by the fire difficult

Could it be your house then eh? Is there something inside it that is causing you these problems? As you say perhaps we just need to keep travelling...??! I'm all for that Some of us could start a house swapping routine eh?

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Don't know if this is helpful,but I spray rubbing alcohol on mold that is on squash during our humid summer. Can you spray that on your walls or use a alcohol pad?


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Or a straw *slurp* he he Not sure but thanks for the tip
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