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ABJoe
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I posted some information in this post...
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1288580049/s-299/#num299

Hope it helps...

Bleach can do significant harm if it is too strong or you breathe the fumes for too long...


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Thanks ABJoe!! Aaah the good old hydrogen peroxide!!?? Do you think it would get mould off the offwhite curtain linings?
I thought I may have been missing out on something by not reading the FS thread... Will have to do some catch up reading
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From the CDC website:
To remove mold growth from hard surfaces use commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution of no more than 1 cup of bleach in 1 gallon of water.


Apparently bleach in water isn't as effective in porous materials (wood, drywall, etc.)

If it was on the curtains I'd just throw them out!
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Hmmm there are rather a lot of them to then replace... Almost ceiling to floor (& 13 foot ceilings It is only the bottom of the linings & since they are so light, I figured they'd be easier to clean/"bleach" than if they were dark...
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Plan of Attack -- (this says bleach won't work on everything)

There are three steps to take when tackling mold in your home:
1. Identify sources of mold.
— Look for black, gray, brown or green patches on surfaces within your home. Important places to check include ceilings and walls, under sinks, along windowsills and doorways, around sinks and showers, the drip pan under the fridge and basements.
— Check towels, bath mats, shower curtains, washcloths and dish sponges.
— Trust your nose. If an area of your home smells moldy, it probably is.
2. Alter the environment to discourage mold growth.
— Promote airflow by opening windows and doors (even occasionally during the winter).
— Keep furniture a couple of inches away from walls.
— Contact a heating/cooling specialist to inspect and clean your air conditioner, furnace and ducts.
— Clean out the refrigerator drip pan regularly.
3. Remove and kill as much mold as possible.
— Regularly launder towels, bath mats and shower curtains. Pitch the plastic shower curtains and liners. Natural-fiber curtains like hemp will repel mold and can be thrown in the wash.
— You can kill molds and bacteria and extend the life of your dish sponges by boiling them for a few minutes once a week.
— Use a HEPA vacuum to clean floors and furniture.
Bleach will NOT remove mold. Because its chemical structure prevents it from penetrating porous materials like dry wall, grout and wood, bleach can’t reach roots of mold growing below the surface. When you spray a porous surface with bleach, the chemical sits on top, killing some visible mold, but the water in the solution soaks deeper and actually encourages further mold growth. For a safer and more effective approach, try these natural mold killers:
— Vinegar and baking soda. Fill a spray bottle with white vinegar, spray moldy surfaces and let it dry. Wipe clean, using more vinegar as needed. Repeat every few days to prevent re-growth. You can also mop with vinegar or add a couple of cups to a load of laundry. Add a teaspoon of baking soda to vinegar to further combat mold and odors.
— Peroxide. Fill a spray bottle with hydrogen peroxide and use the same way as vinegar. Since it’s a bleaching agent, it can help fade mold stains, but be sure to spot-test surfaces to make sure desired colors don’t fade.
— Borax. Borax, a natural stain and odor fighter, also works to kill mold. Mix a borax-water solution of 1 cup borax per gallon of water. Use a sponge or brush to scrub the solution into moldy surfaces, and wipe clean. Find Borax in the laundry detergent section of your supermarket.


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Cheers Chloe!!! That's a great Plan of Attack!!
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Allergy Control Protocol:

BLOOD GROUP O

   1. Frankincense (Boswellia serrata), 400 mg (standardized to contain 37.5%   boswellic acids): 2 capsules, twice daily
   2. Yerba mate tea (Ilex paraguariensis): 1-3 cups, daily
   3. Stinging Nettle leaves (Urtica dioica), 500 mg: 1 capsule twice daily
   4. Quercetin, 500 mg: 1 capsule with meals, 2-3X daily

NON-SECRETORS

   1. Schizandra/Wu-Wei-Zi berry (Schizandra chinensis), 450 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily

   2. Vitamin C (Preferably from acerola cherry or rose hips), 250 mg: 1 capsule daily

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS

   1. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 tablets four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing.
   2. Green tea: 1-3 cups, daily

Also, something I use every day with 1/2 tsp. sea salt to 1 C warm water:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88RUnc8AQFc
It's in all our natural food stores and in various places on the web at different prices.



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Thanks Victoria... You know I am actually clear today with no supplements at all Only just remembered I had completely forgotten to take anything this morning...& have continued to forget all day

I had tried a blackcurrant vit c - has the equivalent of 20 currants per capsule & soon after taking one for the first time & with nothing else except a fish oil capsule, I got a spot on my cheek...

I'm also still trying to work out if I react to the acerola vit C that I have (it has a filler of tapioca flour) - took one last night, broke out in the same way but a little lower on cheek, by morning )

Bromelain definitely breaks me out; not so quercetin though...

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A propos oil of cloves,essential oil of cloves may also be carefully taken internally, in the right dilution. Last Wednesday I began a two-weeks treatment against gut parasytes given me by a Naturalist health caretaker, made according to Dr. Hulda Clark's formula, and it has a strong smell of cloves.


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A propos oil of cloves,essential oil of cloves may also be carefully taken internally, in the right dilution. Last Wednesday I began a two-weeks treatment against gut parasytes given me by a Naturalist health caretaker, made according to Dr. Hulda Clark's formula, and it has a strong smell of cloves.


Oil of cloves for mould cleaning, left overnight as suggested in links I posted above ... I like her approach to natural cleaning and treating ...  




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Thanks ABJoe!! Aaah the good old hydrogen peroxide!!?? Do you think it would get mould off the offwhite curtain linings?

It won't hurt to try it, but borax may work better in the laundry...


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Thanks guys... Ooh I didn't think this thread would continue so long Heaps of useful stuff in here!! Most appreciative!!

Wondering re my sensitivity to most essential oils, how using oil of cloves will go? It is a  Gatherer black dot, but neutral for Explorers Even using manuka oil the other night made my eyes sting...

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Quoted from Possum
It is definitely either an Explorer or Gatherer avoid
Cloves are neutrals in my Swami.
They are very potent.
Dr. Clark's remedy includes of course other ingredients, I'll enquire.


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Thanks heaps yaeli Btw I just edited the info re cloves in my post above I was wrong - they are a black dot for Gatherers only (didn't have my book with me) I was thinking of nutmeg (which I am allergic to) & that is an avoid for Hunters...
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If the curtains are long enough cut the moldy part off.. if not .. cut the lining as far as is needed to get rid of the moldy parts.. just do what you can .. but always follow our nose..

THIS thread is helping a family here.. with kids who moved into a house with a basement bedroom that smells .. I now will send this thread to the family to avoid their teen who sleeps down stairs to get sick or harm his brain.. and become aware of the issue..
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I know that intervention is needed NOW so thanks all .. interesting how you never know what you learn around here.. keeping his furniture in the middle of the floor might be one thing.. running some fan is another through opening in the wall even.. I will definitely look into this as they have a dehumidifier and a ozonator -- incidentally both given to them by me years ago--  

Thanks all .. I am particularly concerned as I know what mold can do to kids brain cells.. mess up all common sense..


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BIG BIG ALERT..


I put my dish sponges after washing them in the washmachine and drying them -in the MICROWAVE for 40-50 seconds to sterilze them.. they don't smell moldy.. might be worth the try for the curtains.. test to make sure they don't melt.. maybe do several times for 20 seconds.. they should not touch the walls as they can burn a stain if left to long.. folding them and refolding might work better...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Possum,

I know exactly what you mean about the food v. the environment. As you said, we eat well but cannot always control our total environment.

I am going through this presently. My severe sinus issues are the only health problem I have. Any others were taken care of long ago just by following the teacher diet.

FYI...a simple painters/doctors mask is my required "attire" for house cleaning and gardening these days. My husband loves to build us cozy fires now that our weather is colder but I need to wear the mask just to sit and enjoy them.

Its interesting you mentioned being better in our drier climate. I live on the high desert of SoCal, which is the driest area of our state, and have these problems. Also interesting, when I travel to Europe, I am almost free of my sinus problems.
Maybe you and I just need to keep traveling!!! Good idea, no?


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Quoted from Goldie
I put my dish sponges after washing them in the washmachine and drying them -in the MICROWAVE for 40-50 seconds to sterilze them.. they don't smell moldy.. might be worth the try for the curtains.. test to make sure they don't melt.. maybe do several times for 20 seconds.. they should not touch the walls as they can burn a stain if left to long.. folding them and refolding might work better...  
Thanks Goldie You haven't seen the size of my microwave compared to my curtains then Mine is a large one but with 13' ceilings & 3 "french doors" that is a tall ask for any microwave

Glad this thread is helping others...as I was a tad at all the extra focus... especially as it continued to draw attention to my slack housekeeping

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Possum,
I know exactly what you mean about the food v. the environment. As you said, we eat well but cannot always control our total environment.

I am going through this presently. My severe sinus issues are the only health problem I have. Any others were taken care of long ago just by following the teacher diet.

FYI...a simple painters/doctors mask is my required "attire" for house cleaning and gardening these days. My husband loves to build us cozy fires now that our weather is colder but I need to wear the mask just to sit and enjoy them.

Its interesting you mentioned being better in our drier climate. I live on the high desert of SoCal, which is the driest area of our state, and have these problems. Also interesting, when I travel to Europe, I am almost free of my sinus problems.
Maybe you and I just need to keep traveling!!! Good idea, no?
Aww so sorry you are going through so much...especially having to wear a mask on just to enjoy the cozy fireside Must make romantic evenings by the fire difficult

Could it be your house then eh? Is there something inside it that is causing you these problems? As you say perhaps we just need to keep travelling...??! I'm all for that Some of us could start a house swapping routine eh?

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Don't know if this is helpful,but I spray rubbing alcohol on mold that is on squash during our humid summer. Can you spray that on your walls or use a alcohol pad?


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Or a straw *slurp* he he Not sure but thanks for the tip
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