So what does it matter when we eat sugar / fruit/ choc ?  What matters about it?  Better to eat it with meat as part of a meal Or later in the day as dessert ?

Does eating certain items make a difference in  different times of the day?  

It is about time or calories?

How can one neutralize 'over indulgence?  

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It is about time or calories?

How can one neutralize 'over indulgence?  

Yes to both!
Don't over indulge (or pay for it by expending calories some how)!

At the start of our journey to figure out the correct diet, i first looked into food combining and kept coming across stuff saying that fruit was best eaten on an empty stomach, after checking the science, some think that is right some dom't i tried it for several months (this a while agao) - results not conclusive, did it mess up Emily's system, maybe - do i do it now no. Emily used to love getting up early with me and having fruit together first thing in the morning - this was very early on before we knew not to eat oranges and apples etc. so not a good example of a test case.

I think if you follow the BTD you don't need to worry because it sorts itself out. and it doesn't fit with you your body tells you because its got the time and energy to let you know. you just have to learn how to listen to your body properly. which can be a steep curve to start with.

As far as calories go... don't count. If you really have the urge to count something in your day, count "times that someone complained" that could be corrected by following their BTD/GTD. lol

As an A I find that eating fruit with anything is fine. Peaches with dinner... seriously. I now eat whatever in whatever order I feel like and my body is happy all the same, just as long as I am eating the right foods for me.

If you feel like eating prunes and they are there and prunes are on your list of things to eat- go for it! If you have some chocolate and it's also on your eat list and you feel like eating that - eat that too!

I used to think food combining was a good idea. That was when I used to eat dairy. I knew that if I ate fruit and had dairy with it, it would give me irritable bowel! So now I eat my diamond foods and my highly beneficial, my neutrals and eat them in whatever combination I darn well feel like it. And I feel AMAZING!

You being a diabetic needs to space these apart, from each other, so you don't get a glucose high.

are you out of bullion already?

Thanks all ... yes I was out of bullion when I went shopping.. I shopped enough for 2 weeks so no more excuses.. but I bought choc and prunes.. I can tell you the miniature dove choc are on AVOID in SHOPPING.. and the prunes.. jsut because one can does not mean one should.. GeminiSue You are correct.. that is what I was asking about..

BUT this is the quote I liked also.. as it is on BTD TARGET!!!!!!

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I used to think food combining was a good idea. That was when I used to eat dairy. I knew that if I ate fruit and had dairy with it, it would give me irritable bowel! So now I eat my diamond foods and my highly beneficial, my neutrals and eat them in whatever combination I darn well feel like it. And I feel AMAZING!

SO NOW it is 10 am and I am starving.. as in my beely grumbels and I am hungry.. ?? and I have a headache.. stressed or sugar .. dont know exactly .. and I am reading a big book.. slept only 3 hours solid though ..

I am making 1 portion size bullion with .. not green leaves today.. but

1 skinney carrot
1 finger size sweetpotatoe
1 slice of green and red pepper..  

IS THAT considered sugar??  

more sugar than spinach, but good forms of it, I don't think a problem.
good to switch it up.

You can eat a green pepper, a carrot, s small sweet potato (or half if large) cooked in bullion,can have the veggies in chunks or can puree in blender, all and all it is not too much for a meal, sounds like your glucose may be dropping, so adding extra will help you raise it some.  Also, after having and waiting fifteen minutes if you still don't feel much better, have a piece of fruit, or 1/2 cup of fruit juice. This is important Joli.

Gemini Sue  why ?  are the veggies not enough carbs??

as soon as I add any sweet I am looking for sweets .. not a good feeling..

if you have time ..please explain.. a little..  

1 skinney carrot
1 finger size sweetpotatoe
1 slice of green and red pepper..  this is why I say increase your vegetables, the amounts are so tiny, I don't even think it would add up to 15 carbs, at a meal, and the least should be 30-45, so what I said is if the increased amount of vegetables, don't make you feel better, to add the fruit, but if you just don't want any fruit, you would have to increase your veggie servings, again, when glucose drops.  

Does this explain it to you, if not ask again to make me understand it better.

Gemini Sue      I don't have the glucose drop that I know of.. at least I don't feel it..  so its not connecting..

I am more interested in the meat and veg if I don't cheat.. to me right now all sugar is cheating.. including the above as they are not super benficials in the diabetic book..

I am so wanting to lose weight, and the more I stray from the narrowest path I struggle more.

To me its like you say I need to eat sweets.. just to balance the insulin .. which I thought I did not make enough of??

confusing.. but I know it will take me some time to sort things out.. the mind often does not follow the body..  and a certain word suddenly makes sense where it did not before..   bear with me or give up.. thanks  ,, thanks again ,,

I wonder if everyone else has these issues?? of not understanding??

I finally decided that prunes have more sugar.. simply because I will eat many more than I would be eating chocolate.. I had weaned myself of choc but not prunes it seems..

I bought a package and it seems I can not go in the kitchen without eating not only one but several.. I even froze them and still makes no difference they NEED to be eaten and then not again for a long long time.. ( by the way they and figs don't even get cold in the freezer.. the sugar keeps them warm.. by comparison choc.. freezes solid..   my mood right now..

OK last post here.. ?? .. I ate halve a bag of prunes.. and I lost 2 pounds.. finally after all the days of real strickt compliance .. I felt better in the AM .. and I have not needed to go to potty any more than other days.. so what gives??

Choc really made me gain?? could Dr D be right???? darn it..  but then I know...  hard to convince me sometimes..