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Ribbit
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I'm getting worse again.  I've got a lot going on and it's pretty overwhelming.  I have pelvic organ prolapse, big-time adrenal burn-out, and the return of postpartum depression.  I had thought most of my problems were winter-induced.  Like Seasonal Affective Disorder.  But I'm beginning to think otherwise. My ears are more sensitive than they've ever been.  My left eardrum tremors.  At least I think it's my eardrum.  It feels like it's a muscle spasm in my ear.  It sounds like fluttering.  It happens most when there's a lot of sudden noise and it's rather irritating.

It wouldn't surprise me if non-secretors have, as a general rule, super-sensitive ears.

Since reading information on the Tomatis therapy, I have become convinced that my ears are a big problem for me and are perhaps the root of many of my problems.

I was just reading on the old "Are You A Nervous Nonnie?" thread and I remembered that I had gotten better being on the diet.  

People, I have to say this:  The voices of my kids hurt my ears.  When we're outside, it's no problem at all.  When we're inside, even happy screeches make me cringe.  Even their normal talking voices make me feel like I need to turn my left ear away from them so I don't hear it so loud.  Normally I turn my left ear toward someone so I can hear them better.  Now I find myself saying, "Shhhhh, not so loud--it's hurting my ears" to my children.  I don't want them to have to tip-toe around all the time in order not to "hurt Mommy".  It's not fair to them.

I feel like I spend all day in defense/survival mode.  I'm defending myself against pain.  Pelvic pain, back pain, and the pain coming from noise.  I had doubled up on B vitamins on the advice of my midwife who had said they would help with the postpartum depression 6 months ago.  I also doubled up on the recommended dosage of my thyroid/adrenal supplement.  It helped initially, but it's not helping anymore.  I read around here somewhere that you're not supposed to take adrenal supplements long-term.  I didn't know that.  I've been taking adrenal supps of some sort off and on (mostly on) for 10 years now.  Both my parents also have adrenal fatigue despite pretty good diets (Daddy's doing the Teacher diet and Mama's doing the standard O diet, although I think she'd do better on the Explorer diet).  Mama says she finally feels better after all these years because we're all out of the house (she wasn't insulting us) and she has time and money to focus on her health.  She seems so normal now.  Menopause is over.

Whatever it is that runs in my family (serotonin deficiency?) drives the men to suicide and the women to alcoholism or depression (manic-depression? bi-polar?--I don't know if there's much of a difference).  Grandmother was the first to break the poverty/alcoholism cycle.  But she still had other major issues.  My aunt is on anti-depressants.  So is my sister and my cousin, who said they went on them for postpartum depression after the births of their boys (18 mos. and 5 years, respectively) and never went off them.

I was reading the other day on a Moms with ADD site that manic-depression is sometimes misdiagnosed as ADHD, especially in children.  The "manic" part looks like hyperactivity.

I have always been able to work off stress by going out in the garden and pulling weeds or shoveling dirt or going for a long hike.  Even if the children came with me, I could burn off steam by moving.  Because of the POP, now I can't even do that.  I got Christine Kent's book, Saving the Whole Woman, her workout DVD, First Aid For Prolapse, and I joined her forums.  It's really wonderful and I can see that it's helping.  But I'm still having pain and other symptoms that I'd prefer not to divulge here, that she said, "You need to go see a specialist."  Most people there are encouraged to exercise in a pelvic organ-friendly manner, and eat right, and much of their troubles will just go away.  While mine have improved, she still thinks I should go see a specialist.

So here I am trying to figure out how to fix my ears and fix my pelvic and back pain and fix the depression.  I'm too young for all this.  I feel like I'm 80.  If I were 80, it wouldn't bother me so much.  I'd expect it.  But I'm 32 and my body is falling apart, and most of the supplements suggested to me are either really expensive or can't be taken while breastfeeding.

I feel like my entire life is a Catch 22.  "Damned if I do, damned if I don't," my mother used to say.

Thanks for listening.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Dearest Ribbit,, you have a lot to deal with .. yet you sound completley sane.. you are OK, as you are expressing your self .. so for today trust that YOU are OK..

for your ears could you try to put one of those foam earplugs in the ear to maybe cut down some of the irritation to noice and the kids would maybe bother you a little less.. - in one ear only so as not to add to your distress.

By polar and Hyperactivety are so different that I don't think it could be mis-labeled.. but I do think when you feel overwhelmed that you could feel like hyperactivity.  ADD is the difficulty in thinking and thinking being all over the place.. in this THREAD you don't seem to be in that state of mind.. your post sounds reasonable and cohesive.. just that you have a LOT to deal with - and that is just a fact - -- nothing in need to be hidden.. look at it as a long list to juggle.. but to make it easier to deal and remember it all I would make a list of all things large and small and then honestly give your self some credit ..You ared oing the best you can... YES, IT is difficult to juggle when all the balls are square or pointed or loud or just difficult.

SO KEEP UP with your posting here today.. I am here all day .. with you.. OK?

About your meds.. You need to have a doctor review the adrenals because doubbling up on meds might be the problem if you are doing it for such a long time.. to much adrenal supplements could be making you gittery and then sort of afraid.. insecure and overwhelmed...

Can you think on that a little?/ and tell us here exactly how much you are taking compared to what they reccomend on the bottle?

for right now I am sending you a big hug.. and will be here for your next post.. ok?


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Dear Leanne, I use just Vit C and adaptogens fro 10 years without problems  I feel rather good, but I have not 4 children to look after and care ! Can you organize to have help for the housekeeping and the children for just some months, to spoil yourself just a little bit? I think you need and deserve it, you should give you the better chances to rest and relax you can now. And if Christine Kent says you should see a physician, look for a smart one soon ! I hope you feel better quickly. Hang on you'll get there, but
you need a little help more in your house and with your children, till you feel better. Maria Giovanna
PS I remember two friends here underweight with their second newborn and you have 4 chidren at home all the days, homeschooling them too. Please take care !


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I totally understand.  I started this "way of living" about 5 months ago.  I was feeling really good until last week when I started feeling tired, stressed, irritable, experiencing mental blocks, and feeling the urge to eat EVERYTHING! I finally realized after reevaluating the last three weeks of diet and exercise that I was over exerting myself.  I was feeling the more cardio the better.  We "A's" CAN'T DO THAT! This is the first "diet" that has actually worked for me where I didn't have to take diet pills.  I am 34 years old and have simular problems as you.  Good luck!
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Ribbitlein...please go for B-vits, C, magnesium aspartate even when breastfeeding this is ok ....later I'd go for l'tyrosine 2-3x500mg's and try not to identify with whatever..whom ever... try to stay in a sort of observer situation... no I-concepts.. nada and you will see the calm in your head will be one of the greatest .... from Isa


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Rabbit, just sent you a pm email me and i'll send you a great leaflet that helped us.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I can’t offer much help, just sympathy.

My AB- Father had hyper sensitive ears.  I couldn’t eat a potato chip in front of him.  I’d try very hard to chew slow & soft, but to no avail.  He liked to dine out but wouldn’t go to a restaurant like red Lobster even though he loved seafood because it was too full of children and thus too loud.  He’s only go to the quiet subdued fine dining establishments.  His Father was an alcoholic.  My father had a rule never to drink before evening.  My son & I follow that rule.  He was a chain smoker.  He drank tea all day long.  I’m addicted to caffeine & nicotine.

My mother was a Manic-Depressive.  Her mother & sister are rumored to have committed suicide because of depression.   My Mother was suicidal but never succeeded.  I have had some major rough times in my life, but I look the situation straight on and try to handle it the best I can.  My motto is “Inch by Inch it is a synch but yard by yard is very hard.”  My Mother always expected everyone else to help her.  I expect no one to help me and am pleasantly surprised & happy when somebody does.

My philosophy is the more I know and understand about my genetic tendencies, like being a non-secretor, alcoholism, & depression, the more I can help myself to find ways to protect myself.

Being able to express your feelings in writing, like on this forum is a great help.  Getting them out is important.  Being in denial is what causes the major crises.


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How well are you following the diet, I only ask as I have noticed a big improvement in my temper since being 100 ish compliant. but if I miss a meal I get bad tempered - Emily is worse lol she just has to be full all the time. but then again we are O's.

We found that this help with Emily too it's a time out mat with a built in timer - all our friends have now bought it and love it.

http://www.gro.co.uk/vmchk/Time-Out-Pad.html watch the video

every parent should get one - and no I have no association with the company lol





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I stopped, Smoking, Drinking, but still have a problem stopping eating sweets. got it down to one square of chocolate a day. dark chocolate at that and 90 cocoa.

looking for a 100 % choc without flavouring but haven't found one yet. so many other things to sort first this is my one non compliance. it relates to about 10 grams of choc a day. but it is supposed to mellow you. is that the same for A's


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Sounds like a magnesium deficiency; adrenal burnout, extreme sensitivity to noise (does your whole body feel like one big ear?). Try bumping up your mag intake and see if symptoms abate...Are you able to get sleep? Sleep is healing.  A good acupuncturist could help with the prolapse. Wishing you betterness from the left coast.
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I know your going through a lot trying to keep up with four children, with the way you are feeling, I just wanted to ask you to check what you are eating and taking in (pill wise) and make sure you are not mixing corn and beans together, that leads to many of the problems you described above.  Giving you a HUG and suggesting you take a little time to yourself, each day, even if only an hour.  I raised three children alone, and my counselor at the time it was all so new to me (being alone) insisted, I get out, at least 1 hr, seven days a week.  I was lucky enough to have a 13 year old, I could trust with the children, for that long.  Sometimes, it was only to go down the road to the lake and look out and relax, take in some deep breaths and release them slowly.  It helped!

Try not to leave the world's problems effect you, but take note of them, and realize how you are so blessed.  Take it one step at a time.  

Does watching a movie with the children relax you?
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Watching Tv may be okay for a sort time, but there is a lot of evidence that it makes the problems worse by over using TV, but if it helps do it. just test the reactions over time

All of us get a bit stressed with young ones, so times a lot, a long walk, if it's realistic and possible cures many a woe.

If you ever get the time read a book written by Aric Sigman called "remotely controlled" it well worth it. if that's to long Google it and get the basics


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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Google "hyperacusis" and see if the symptoms describe what you're dealing with.


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For not every food is good for everyone, nor is everything suited to every taste.



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I had observed my sister having the fourth child.. not easy.. I think its just to much in these modern days to live in small rooms .. no cows to milk and chickens to laugh at..

children are work and chores and take the air right out of you even if you are not having half the issues you deal with.. give your self some space.. even a half door or a childrens gate to your own room might help to give you - space - to see the children but them a little away from your own air space..

if need be a soft bed of pillows in front of your door so they can paly there.. take some time with a soft cloth on your eyes.. put pillows on the side of your head prop it up so you dont have to from side to side.. a soft blanket over you..

and finally in your mind for 10 seconds at a time.. imagin being in the favorite spot in the world.. it is worth it.. the mind does not know truth from fiction.. only what you tell it..

by comparison the body never forgets on injurie.. it needs to heal.. but the mind can will it to heal ONE % at a time..    


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Ribbit, I'm so sorry you're suffering, but did you ever have a mold test done on the interior air
in your house?  Didn[t you start having problems when you moved?  Didn't  you say in another post that you've got water damage in the house?  And that the kids were sick a lot of this
past winter? If I were you, I'd have someone come out and do a mold spore count. I called a biological engineer to test my indoor air. It was as bad as our outdoor air.

"Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is everywhere.  It is in the air and grows on everything.  Typically we can’t see it until it grows into larger colonies.  It is the most widespread living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and fall, but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for the vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one’s health.

Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage to our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene, natural gas or trichloethylene.  They can even initiate cancers, cause chemical sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging from high blood pressure to depression.

Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or skin with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and eczema, but the brain can also be the target organ.

Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive compulsion, panic attacks, anxiety attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraines, headaches, or inability to concentrate.

In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis, dizziness, fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes, arthritis, lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion, hyperactivity, symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for sweets or carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable bowel, indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more. "



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Ribbit, so sorry. I sent you a PM.

Chloe, good call on the mold. I actually had to leave my job last fall due to mold. I was sick on and off from the time I started and when I finally dragged myself to the doc, they said sinus infection brought on by mold. I could smell it in the building it was that bad. I had other symptoms, not just respiratory.


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mould engineer that’s a new one too, I’ll look in to that. together we can lift the recession


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Mold is an invisible microscopic organism and it is everywhere.  It is in the air and grows on everything.  Typically we can’t see it until it grows into larger colonies.  It is the most widespread living organism in thousands of varieties indoors and out.

Mold puts out showers of spores into the air that can be in the millions. It is present in highest numbers in the spring and fall, but is present in all seasons and is often underestimated for the vast amount of havoc it can perpetrate on one’s health.

Molds make toxins called mycotoxins that can do the same damage to our health as any chemical such as formaldehyde, toluene, natural gas or trichloethylene.  They can even initiate cancers, cause chemical sensitivity and just about any symptom you can think of ranging from high blood pressure to depression.

Not only do molds trigger typical organs such as nose, chest or skin with allergic rhinitis, sinusitis, asthma, rashes, hives and eczema, but the brain can also be the target organ.

Mold can be a primary cause of depression, obsessive compulsion, panic attacks, anxiety attacks, schizophrenia, tourettes syndrome, migraines, headaches, or inability to concentrate.

In susceptible individuals mold can also cause dermatitis, dizziness, fatigue, algias, irritability, weakness, burning eyes, arthritis, lower IQ, chest pain, shortness of breath, confusion, hyperactivity, symptoms attributed to MS, heart palpitations, cravings for sweets or carbohydrates, gastrointestinal distress such as irritable bowel, indigestion, heartburn, etc., and much more. "



terrific explanation..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Ribbit...I think your post was really well stated and you express yourself very well.  This are not rantings of a crazy person but rather expressions of frustration and the desire to be able to live life with less physical/emotional suffering.  I think everyone deserves that.  I hope you find your answers here...I do believe they are here.

Mold may play a large part in this.  Don't overlook this.

Another thing is I believe if you are eating properly you don't need that many supps anyway.  I wouldn't fret over what you can't have during breast feeding.

I wonder if you get what you need in other areas.  Do you get time for your own creativity?  Do you get 15-20 minutes a day to just "be" and breathe?  I have doubts with all the work a mommy does that you possibly get this time.  If your tank is empty and you are fatigued how do you fill it?  You cannot give if you have nothing stored up.  I'm not saying these are your issues but I'm asking if this part of your health is cared for?  If it is not this can make all other reasons for illness and pain far worse.

You seem like such a well spoken, lovely and caring woman and I hope you find a way to feel better soon.

Keep posting.

Hugs.
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A smart person asks for help and will get it.


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Anyone can do their own mold testing by purchasing a kit.

http://moldcheck.com/UsingMoldTestKits.php


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Ribbit, I am thinking of you and hoping you feel relief soon. I have had severe depression/anxiety from the age of 21-27. It has interfered with my ability to function at times. Now that I found the BTD, I can finally say that the deep depression is gone and in remission and I no longer need medication. What I do need to do everyday is stay on the BTD and eat my Swami beneficials and I NEED to eat 1 can of sardines/day.

The sardines everyday is not optional for me. The sardines act as a necessary supplement which helps the omega 3 balance in my head. I've experimented with going off sardines and it is not good for me. Eating a can of sardine everyday with 1 tbs of sour cream (mashed with the sardines, the sour cream hides the fishy taste) has been one of the most important "supplements". The sardines need to be in water and not oil or it doesn't work for me. I think the Omega 3 balance is very delicate in my brain and I need a large dose everyday. Fish oil may be good for some people but I don't think my brain knows what to do with it and I have only found relief from sardines.

The Crowne Prince sardines brand is my favorite.

I am also highly sensitive to wheat and can easily get depressed from eating something with just a little wheat. Spelt and Farro are fine for me and don't give me those depressive moods. Good luck Ribbit and I hope you keep posting and update us on how you're feeling. I appreciate all the posts from you and your honesty and advice.

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Sharon what a nice post and interesting about your need for sardines.. interesting.. where did you ever figure that out??

it makes sense as you explain it.. I dont eat fish so I would not know what they yaste like, but if they are good for you then you found a wonderful way to keep your balance..  so good to hear..  


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omg, I just finished going through a bag of stuff from a few years back, early btd, days and one thing that caught my attention, is exactly what you stated, that canned sardines balance something in the brain, to relieve depression.  I came in here, to post and just read above post.  That is great!  
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I agree, Sharon is really nice, and nicer in person! If one can eat sour cream, that version of sardines sounds delish!  I also agree about the wheat, when I eat it, it's a gradual downhill spiral for my moods. It took me years to realize this!  Praying for improvement for Ribbit soon! Also wanted to say how sweet it is when Isa adds "lein" to people's names!  
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Spooky, Emily had sardines (although in olive oil) and was totally relaxed afterwards


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Sharon that is a good point.  I only started eating sardines recently after the Acupuncturist recommending it and I  mashing them up and mixing in with veggies in soup works for me. Apparently they are lowest in mercury of the seafood chain.


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omg, I just finished going through a bag of stuff from a few years back, early btd, days and one thing that caught my attention, is exactly what you stated, that canned sardines balance something in the brain, to relieve depression.  I came in here, to post and just read above post.  That is great!  


If that is possible then DR D needs to make a post.. 2 people in a row.. hot..

Geninisue how did you eat them??  plain>> when time of day.. interesting..

I can not immagine eating them but this is a good thing to remember for peolpe that could use this..

I missed your posts..
  


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Increase the fat in your diet until the PP depression improves. Like Sharon said, sardines are a great source of this and their RNA is very good for you right now. try eating them on some acceptable cracker smeared with peanut butter.

Look into phospatidyl-serine product (100mg) take 3 of these twice daily.

Stop the adrenal thyroid support product.

For the prolapse, take one maganese picolenate capsule daily with food for 60 days.



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Thanks, everybody.  I will get some sardines. I really will.

And the petri dish thing sounds like something DH would love to do.

I eat a lot of fat.  I eat canned salmon once or twice a week, sometimes more.  I eat ghee like there's no tomorrow.  I eat probably too many nuts.

No wheat.  SWAMI avoid.  100% rye crackers, brown rice and quinoa are pretty much my only grains.  I have wondered if maybe I'm not getting enough protein now because I can't eat any meat* (except fish) and I can't eat beans because they give the baby REALLY BAD gas which keeps her awake at night.  So I eat lentils and nuts and fish and a lot of salad and mushy things like butter peas.

*One of the side affects of pelvic organ prolapse is constipation, because the muscles surrounding the colon don't do what they're supposed to do and .......ANYWAY.....meat just makes it all that much worse.

I will do everything Dr. D just said to do.  

Thank you.


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Hey babe!! Feeling for you that is really interesting re the sardines!! I hope you find some answers - i think  all I can offer right now is love & sympathy

Just one other thing... didn't you post somewhere not too long ago that you thought you were possibly going through early peri-menopause?
Don't overlook that... it can be pretty traumatic emotionally until your hormones get balanced... You can do soy though   ?? & a lot of hormome support supplements are soy based...
Could be your minerals are unbalanced too...

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The voices of my kids hurt my ears.  


OMG!!  Yes I know this feeling.  Sometimes I feel like I am going to have a nervous breakdown because my 7 y.o son continually plays so loudly.  Both in the car and at home.  For me it feels like my brain is going to explode.  I know how strange that sounds.
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Sharon what a nice post and interesting about your need for sardines.. interesting.. where did you ever figure that out??

it makes sense as you explain it.. I dont eat fish so I would not know what they yaste like, but if they are good for you then you found a wonderful way to keep your balance..  so good to hear..  


Goldie, I learned about sardines from LRFYT. Dr. D'Adamo listed sardines as beneficial and the portion for fish and AB non-secretors is 4-6 times/week. So I started eating sardines and noticed a positive change. I never ate any fish growing up except  fish sticks at school on Fridays and the occasional tuna fish sandwich. My mom hated fish and never had it in the house but she did eat one sardine everyday when she was pregnant with me and my brother. She hated eating them but thought it would be good for our growing brains. I now know what a big sacrifice that was for her because she still hates fish and can hardly be in the same room with me while I eat my daily can of sardines.   We're both very grateful that we were introduced to sardines through Dr. D.
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Can anyone tell me why the sardines have to be plain? If you put sour cream on them they are no longer plain... So is it something in the process if they are canned in oil... I usually buy sardines in olive oil - tried the same brand in spring water recently & didn't enjoy them, as they were "dry"...
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I will do everything Dr. D just said to do.  

Thank you.


For the noise acuity, try homeopathic PHOSPHORUS 30c or 200c 3-5 pellets away from food once daily


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Can anyone tell me why the sardines have to be plain? If you put sour cream on them they are no longer plain... So is it something in the process if they are canned in oil... I usually buy sardines in olive oil - tried the same brand in spring water recently & didn't enjoy them, as they were "dry"...

Add your own oil rather then the one the manufacturer uses.



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I'm going to see if I can copy/paste some of your comments and address them.  I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one post.

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Goldie said:  ADD is the difficulty in thinking and thinking being all over the place.. .............YES, IT is difficult to juggle when all the balls are square or pointed or loud or just difficult.


Yes, that's my brain.  I type much better than I talk.  Annoys DH because I'll start to say something and stop mid-sentence because I forget I was talking and my brain is a million miles off to another subject, and I don't even know what I was going to say.  I also have "noun forgetfulness".  I'll say to my son, "Please pick up....that white...get....that off the floor.  That right there."  "This sock?"  "Yes.  Thank you."  I know that sounds really dumb, but I do it all the time.  It's awful.  I try to laugh about it, but it's embarrassing.  Sometimes to bring the noun to mind I will picture the word written and then I know what it is.  If you go read all the ADD threads you'll see what I've posted there.  I drop things a lot because I forget I'm carrying them.  How dumb does that sound?  I'm so easily distracted that I feel like I have to focus my complete attention on every little sound I hear.  I have to hear it, process it, know what it is, try to figure out what I need to do about it....and by that time there's another sound I have to process.

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Maria Giovanna said:  Can you organize to have help for the housekeeping and the children for just some months,................ And if Christine Kent says you should see a physician, look for a smart one soon ! I hope you feel better quickly.


$$$$$$$

I'm not sure where to start, but I'm going to do some research this morning after I get the children busy doing something.  My OB wanted me to have an MRI done and I haven't done it.  Whatever I do, it's not going to be a quick fix.  Christine talks about the pelvic muscles as being like a finely knit sweater.  Normal wear is fine, and when you wash it and lay it flat to dry, it goes back to its normal shape.  But if you take the sweater and pull it way out of shape and stretch it too far, it won't ever go back to looking like it once did.  Pregnancy is "normal wear".  But we moved during my first pregnancy, we moved during my second pregnancy, and we moved during my fourth pregnancy.  Each time I packed up the house myself.  I moved boxes that I had no business moving.  I guess you might say I was setting myself up for having trouble, and I didn't realize it.  There were other factors involved too, but I can save them for another time and place if anybody's interested.

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Isa said:  try not to identify with whatever..whom ever
  

I understand what you're saying, but I think the problem is more physical than emotional.  If everybody in my family has blue eyes, chances are I'll have blue eyes.  If everybody in my family has wheat allergies, chances are I'll have wheat allergies.  If everybody in my family has some sort of chemical deficiency or imbalance,  well then.  I'm not likely to get off the hook.  I know I don't have to follow down pathways everybody else takes.  But if I'm already like them, I can ask them how they've handled the problems I'm having.

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What Arlene said:  
My philosophy is the more I know and understand about my genetic tendencies, like being a non-secretor, alcoholism, & depression, the more I can help myself to find ways to protect myself.
..............  Being in denial is what causes the major crises.


Exactly.  Thank you.  I am a great denier.  I've been doing it all my life.  "That's not real.  It's not really happening.  I'm not seeing this.  I do not feel this way."  I learned very early on to deny reality.  I've also been told from a very early age (by my brothers) that I belong in an institution.  (I don't, it's just their way of making me paranoid, which I already am.)  So once in our late teen years, when my sister and I were becoming a little closer, I joked, "So if they stick me in an insane asylum, will you come visit me?"  She laughed and said, "No....I'll be in the next room over."  We laughed heartily about it, and we both knew it wasn't much of a joke.  She has found her answer now in an anti-depressant.  It's a huge step for me to even admit that I'm like the others in my family even though I've known for years that it's been going on.  Several times a year I slide downhill without warning and I've tried my best over the years to keep my chin up and not wallow in it.  But if I can be honest about it happening, and go ahead and admit it, then maybe I can get some help.  My mother is still in denial to this day, and her mother went to the grave in denial.  I come from a long string of Scotch-Irish, fair skinned redheads with nasty tempers and the ability to drink themselves to death and still appear sober enough to teach school.

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Policy Checker said:  How well are you following the diet....


Very well, and then some.  The only avoid I regularly eat (like once every two weeks at most) is black olives.  Because I love them.  But I'm more compliant that is really necessary.

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4th Rabbit said:  
Sounds like a magnesium deficiency; adrenal burnout, extreme sensitivity to noise (does your whole body feel like one big ear?). Try bumping up your mag intake and see if symptoms abate...Are you able to get sleep? Sleep is healing.


More than my body feeling like one big ear, my body feels like one big drum.  I was explaining to DH last week like this: I told him to imagine being at a heavy metal concert and sitting right in front of the speakers.  After the concert is done, you walk away....and how do you feel?  Rattled?  Used?  Physically beat up?  Tense?  That's how I feel all the time.  

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Gemini Sue said:
make sure you are not mixing corn and beans together, that leads to many of the problems you described above.  Giving you a HUG and suggesting you take a little time to yourself, each day, even if only an hour......
Try not to leave the world's problems effect you, but take note of them, and realize how you are so blessed......Does watching a movie with the children relax you?


Corn and beans?  I can't eat beans because they give the baby gas.  I gave up corn too.  "Only" an hour?  How about 2 minutes?  I am trying to walk every day alone.  I have a little trail in the woods that I can walk loops around while I can still see the children.  So I set the baby on a blanket, let the others collect acorns or snails and I walk.  I try to do that every day just so my mind can wander and I don't have to focus on anything specific--it wears me out.  I have trouble sitting down to watch something because then I look up at the kids' desk and notice the pile of paper or the fact that somebody didn't put the scissors away or I see a trail of powdered moths and bee wings and detached spider legs on the windowsill and feel like I need to something about it.  I'm getting better about letting things like that go, but they still bother me.

And on that note, I need to go make the children some breakfast because I've been telling them for 20 minutes now to hush so I could concentrate on typing all this up.     I'll come back and finish in a little while.  


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Funny (not the right word but you know what i mean) I'm looking, mainly;y out of interest but also because I've noticed a couple of tiny  pointers, at reading some of Dr Daniel Amen stuff, found him while reading some other allergy book. I have just ordered his book "Healing ADD" perhaps they have it in the library if money is tight. or order a second hand copy, they seem to be on the INTERNET everywhere. knowledge is power. that and the diet of Dr D, should ease the pressure. My own view on scans by the way is keep them to a minimum like everything the medical world tries to sell you - having said that don't dismiss it out of hand, maybe look at seeing Dr Amen, he seems to have a positive vibe. Even if he looks as if he is not well himself. (hopefully that isn't the case by the way - no harm meant.

http://www.amenclinics.com/


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Morning Ribbit,
Yes, I think your description of your body being one big drum sounds a lot like Magnesium deficiency, and my sympathies, I know how that feels.    Can you take extra mag? how about Epsom Salt bath with high mag content in the salts? adsorb some through the skin. Hope thinks start to turn around for you soon.
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How are you feeling today?

Remember that everybody has ups and downs, but when you're already feeling exhausted and doing a lot, the "downs" can be downright overwhelming!

Hang in there.


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Good morning BRAVE WOMAN Ribbit.. You have found a place whhere once  a day you never have to cpoy and past.. we who answered will be able to follow your post without all that extra work.. you already have much to keep track of.. at least here we are ok if its not all perfect.. haha no one is all that and just for fun = my sis is perfect!! and a royal nudge.. little fun..


DID YOU see these posts.. ?  THIS MIGHT BE something to look at..

  
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  Sharon what a nice post and interesting about your need for sardines.. interesting.. where did you ever figure that out??

    it makes sense as you explain it.. I don't eat fish so I would not know what they taste like, but if they are good for you then you found a wonderful way to keep your balance..  so good to hear..  



Goldie, I learned about sardines from LRFYT. Dr. D'Adamo listed sardines as beneficial and the portion for fish and AB non-secretors is 4-6 times/week. So I started eating sardines and noticed a positive change. I never ate any fish growing up except  fish sticks at school on Fridays and the occasional tuna fish sandwich. My mom hated fish and never had it in the house but she did eat one sardine everyday when she was pregnant with me and my brother. She hated eating them but thought it would be good for our growing brains. I now know what a big sacrifice that was for her because she still hates fish and can hardly be in the same room with me while I eat my daily can of sardines.   We're both very grateful that we were introduced to sardines through Dr. D.  
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I think that possibly you would be the right person to try this .. or at least to read up on it .... I just looked at ER4YT its a BENEFICIAL!!!! so if possible start eating Sardines.. I looked at the other books and also the GENO where it is A diamond.. so try if it's in your ability.. read more in theses posts..

I am so glad you can walk with your thoughts and still see the children!!!!  so good for you.. with caring.. (P/S self medication is what people had to before they found pills and meds that help .. but natural foods might be much better since all meds have side effects..

Keep posting .. when you have time..  


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Ribbit,
I have no good advice other than what's been offered.  I just want to give you a great big (((((HUG))))).
My oldest son (the one that just had my gorgeous first grandchild) was diagnosed with ADD in kindergarten.  Although I've never been diagnosed, I've got it too.  (I had a boss once that used to just look at me and scream FOCUS).  I did very well in school and college but always needed time pressure to actually get things done.  I have trouble at times organizing my thoughts.
The one thing that actually helped my son was his music.  When he was really upset or overwhelmed, I'd find him in his room, either writing music or just playing his guitar.  Is there something, anything that just soothes you like that.  He also had some kind of light therapy when he was in high school that helped with some of his anger issues after my ex and I divorced.

You have an overwhelming amount of responsibility with virtually no time to just be by yourself.  I know that homeschooling is a philosophical choice but it certainly adds to the pressure.  

Wishing you the best.
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not sure if i linked before this chaps before "remotely controlled" links TV and behaviour, very bright guy http://www.aricsigman.com


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we who answered will be able to follow your post without all that extra work................. but natural foods might be much better since all meds have side effects..

  


Right, but I can't keep track of it all!   I can't remember it long enough to reply.  When I was in elementary school I couldn't copy things off the board because by the time I read it and got my pencil ready, and found where I was supposed to write, I'd forgotten the word.  I'd look up at the board and the words would be scrambled.  I'd find the beginning, start to write it down, look up to check spelling, and the word was gone.  I'd erase what I wrote, look up again, locate the word, start writing it again, and then forget what the word was.  By that time the teacher was on to something else, and I'd glance at the person's paper next to me and see that they had listed a dozen homework assignments out.  I hadn't even started properly writing the first one.  Thanks to 3 1/2 years of therapy some of that straightened out and I could take functional notes through highschool, but that tendency is still there and I have to keep reminding myself (and other people who, for some reason think I'm brilliant) that the ADD doesn't just go away when you get out of school.  Thank you for the chuckles, though, Goldie. I've been eating natural foods my whole life.  My mom was really into health food and although I always ate foods that weren't right for my type, at least they were whole and organic.

Ruthie, that's the thing.  It's not a bad day.  It's a bad month.  Or maybe two or three months.  I know it'll lift, because it always does, but I would like to help it along.  Thyroid/adrenal supps always helped before, but they're not doing the job now.  Somebody told me that's how manic depression is, but I'm not sure it's manic depression.  I just don't know.  

I questioned my uncle about two years ago.  I thought I was going way out on a limb to even bring up the topic, and I really expected him to laugh it off or say I was imagining things....again.  I sidled up to him at a family get-together and, knowing there wasn't a round-about way of bringing it up, said, "So, what do you think it is that all the women in our family have?"  Without hesitation, he said, "Paranoid schizophrenia."  I said, "Really?"  I was a little shocked at his quick reply.  "Are you sure that's what it is?"  "No," he answered.  "Everybody's so paranoid about doctors nobody will go to be evaluated."  I think I probably turned a bit red because I'm guilty as charged on that  matter.    He continued, "It's not just the women, you know."  Yes, Grandmother had told me, even while she was denying it in herself.

Well, okay, I'll get back to replying to posts.  Let's see, maybe I can do it this way.

Chloe, I haven't done the mold test.  DH shrugged it off and said he didn't think it was mold.  But the petri dish idea will surely catch his attention as I'm sure he has a dozen packed away in the basement that were probably accidentally lifted from the UM campus.

Soulful Lori, I agree with you that I should be getting what I need from my food.  But if my cells do not absorb nutrients from food, I may need supplements of high-dose vitamins like the Bs.  I've known some crazy people to rant coherently.   Hitler, as I recall, was quite the orator. Sometimes you have to be around a person many years before you realize something's wrong.  My best friend D (who I left in the religious cult when I fled) denied vehemently that there was anything strange going on with my mother when I brought up the idea to her.  My mother was so good at hiding it that even D didn't see it, and she spent a lot of time with all of us.  Nobody understood the things that were said behind closed doors, and my mother denies it to this day (except once she admitted it to my sister).

Sharon, again, thanks for the sardine tip.  I will get some next time I go to the store.

Possum brought up the peri-menopause thing.  I don't know where I stand there.  I asked my OB about hormone testing (just to see where everything was) and he said, "There's no point until you wean the baby.  Come see me when you've stopped nursing."  My mom began menopause in her early 30s, as did my aunt, and my grandmother had a total hysterectomy at a very early age, but she would never say why.  I cannot say how I dread this because it took my mother 20 years go finish THE CHANGE.  I think I mentioned somewhere earlier that she's all evened out and is pleasant to be around...now that its all over and now that they can spend $$$$ on supplements that help her.  I started drinking some soy milk every day and the insane hot flashes stopped completely.

Yes, Aussie, you understand!  The thing is, they're really not that loud.  It's just that I hear it loudly.  Everybody else raves about how well-behaved my children are.  And they are!  But because my ears are hyper-sensitive, even their happy playing makes me cringe.

Dr. D suggested "homeopathic PHOSPHORUS".  I thought that rang a bell, so I dug through my old vitamin box and pulled out a dropper bottle of Phosfood Liquid by Standard Process.  A natural-type doctor had me try that when I was expecting last time, thinking it might help with the nausea.  It didn't, so I quit taking it.  Can I use that instead of the homeopathic tablets?  Maybe use it up at least, and then get some of the tablets later?  This stuff is 35 mg of phosphorus per serving, which is 10 drops.  Bright yellow.  Tastes awful.


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Policy checker, I know you're trying to help, but my children aren't bad.  They don't need time outs or more authority. It's just that I can't organize the noise in my mind and make sense of it fast enough to give instruction. They aren't the problem--I am.  I know how to handle behavioral issues common to all children.  That's not the issue.  We all have a great relationship and they get along very well compared to other children.  If anything, I have been too authoritarian with them in the past and I'm having to back and undo some of the damage I did. (I will however, go back and read it for my own education.  There are always things I can adjust.)

I am a musician as well and I used to write some when I had time.  I've got a song circulating right now that I need to put down on paper, but the constant interruption keeps me from getting it on paper.  The piano is out of tune.  Not that it really bothers me much, though, because I can "correct" it in my mind and still hear it like it should sound.

This hyperacusis thing.  YES!  That's exactly what it sounds like.  From wikipedia: "it may be caused by abnormal response in the tensor tympani and stapedius muscles which function in the normal acoustic reflex response that protects the inner ear from loud sounds."  Ahhhhh....yesssss.  That's not unlike what I've been reading here:  http://www.tomatis.com/English/Articles/add_adhd.htm

Edited: After reading more on wikipedia and following some links, I'm beginning to wonder if this is the cause of some of my migraines.  It's not unusual for me to get a migraine the day after a huge event.  I wonder if it's such a stress on the muscles in my left ear that they cause the headache.  They always start on the left side of my head down behind my ear.


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but that tendency is still there and I have to keep reminding myself (and other people who, for some reason think I'm brilliant) that the ADD doesn't just go away when you get out of school.


YOU ARE A BRIGHT WOMAN .. I can see that in your writing!!!! SO no more comparing hitler.. Its not the right person.. BUT others Like Kennedy as smart even though he had problems reading..Einstein who failed school .. and painters and musicians who where on the forefront of brave new things.. You are like them..  

You described the ADD so well I could almost feel it... IN FACT I cant even add another thing that would be helpful as you are doing so much already,.. including the sardines.. glad if you like them...

good luck..        


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You gotta use the homeopathic. The other might make you feel worse.


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Sharon what a nice post and interesting about your need for sardines.. interesting.. where did you ever figure that out??



Yes how did you figure that out?



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Andrea, I figured the sardines out after I read LRFYT because it said that beneficials act as medicine. So I started eating all the beneficials for AB's until I found the right "medicine" for my brain. I saw that sardines were beneficial and then I read different things about sardines on the internet (purines, polyamines, etc.). I realized that whenever I ate the sardines, I felt a little better so I started eating them all the time and experimented with going off of them as a reference point. Schizophrenia, Depression, Manic-Depression, and Alzheimer's runs in my family so I'm always alert when I read about possible remedies. I read on Dr. D's blog that schizophrenics don't do well with wheat. I also read somewhere that some scizophrenics have a huge need for a certain vitamin and one man was healed if he ate a pound of spinach/day. That made me think that some people can't make certain vitamins that are necessary and can only get i from food or a good supplement.. My need comes form sardines but others might come from spinach, or who knows what else.

Ribbit, I order a bulk case of Crowne Prince sardines from Amazon.
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A pound of spinach?  I could do that.  When I make a salad, I make a salad!

A friend offered to watch the children while I go grocery shopping, so I'm going to take them up on it.  I have enough trouble focusing in stores anyway, even without the children there.  DH said they deliberately make malls and grocery stores over-stimulating so you won't pay attention as you load up your cart.  It's not that the children misbehave, it's just that they talk, and when they talk, I can't think.

I need this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886941599/addconsults

This lady knows how it goes.     I joined her forums, but I don't have time to post much.  I just read what everybody else writes.


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Ah that is why you told Shelly to eat sardines


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I've known some crazy people to rant coherently.   Hitler, as I recall, was quite the orator. Sometimes you have to be around a person many years before you realize something's wrong.  




As far as you being off your rocker and stating how crazy people can rant coherently...yeah, I hear you there however...PEOPLE LIKE HITLER WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE US THEY WERE SANE AND THE REST OF US WERE NUTS.  YOU on the other hand are trying to convince US you may be not so right in the head.  Take some comfort in that.  Personally, I think you are suffering from MAJOR exhaustion.  That's just my opinion and certainly does not mean it is true nor does it dismiss your discomfort and pain.  I will say a little prayer that you find some relief in a good way.  For the record, what you must have to handle in a day makes me exhausted just thinking about it.  Don't discount all that you do.

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Personally, I think you are suffering from MAJOR exhaustion.


Then I have been exhausted since I was about 6.

Thank you for your sweet words though.  Good point about Hitler--you are right.  (I wasn't comparing myself with Hitler, I was just pointing out that some people who are off their rockers can still appear on their rockers.)


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MAJOR exhaustion. Ditto also for me, please have any help you can afford, this is sane for you and your family. The genetical heritage and the diagnoses should not give you as I read  betweeen  the lines and connect the dots all these problems and should not define your smart and beautiful personality. Your routine tasks can be overwhelming and you have a six month child to care together with the others three. Please take care for you and it will bless all your family.
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Thank you, MG.

Arlene, check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

People who have misophonia are most commonly annoyed, or even enraged, by the sound of other people eating or breathing. Oddly, they are not normally annoyed by sounds that they themselves make. Reactions to these sounds are not limited however to just loud eating noises, people with Misophonia find themselves affected by all kinds of noises.

Often, people who have misophonia are also annoyed by other people's repetitive movements, such as leg-tapping, nail-biting and typing.

Sensitivity to these sounds tends to be exacerbated by stress or feeling tired/run down.


Sounds like your father???  Sounds like me too, except I don't get angry, I just want to run away.  Fight or flight.  Your dad had the "fight" and I have the "flight".


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Ribbit I sent you a private message.. no need to read it.. just my ramblings.. and not well put together.. sorry..

at least here we can erase a message but private messages I dont know how to erase..  


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Thank you, MG.

Arlene, check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

People who have misophonia are most commonly annoyed, or even enraged, by the sound of other people eating or breathing. Oddly, they are not normally annoyed by sounds that they themselves make. Reactions to these sounds are not limited however to just loud eating noises, people with Misophonia find themselves affected by all kinds of noises.

Often, people who have misophonia are also annoyed by other people's repetitive movements, such as leg-tapping, nail-biting and typing.

Sensitivity to these sounds tends to be exacerbated by stress or feeling tired/run down.


Sounds like your father???  Sounds like me too, except I don't get angry, I just want to run away.  Fight or flight.  Your dad had the "fight" and I have the "flight".


Oh WOW, misophonia...never heard of it before but I was sitting in the movie theater one night,
calmly chewing on popcorn when some lady sitting in the seat in front of me turned around
and screamed in my face "can't you shut up.....all that CHEWING and CHEWING". She was irate...
irrationally so...and I suspect she was suffering from misophonia.



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Wow, Chloe.  That must have been startling.  Sorry, it made me laugh to imagine her saying, "CHEWING and CHEWING."   

I am happy to report that chewing does not bother me.  

Based on some of the pm's I've gotten, mostly from people who don't know me well, I feel the need to write an explanation.  I know y'all are tying to help, but let me say this:  I am not negligent of my children.  I do not sit in my room all day while they watch tv.  We don't even own a tv.  I spend more time with my children than working parents who have their children in school/daycare all day.  My children are smart and they learn quickly.  They haven't inherited any of my issues, or at least I can't see any yet. (My son got a little perhaps, but it may just be that he's a boy and he processes things differently.  That's what DH thinks anyway.)  We don't eat fast food when I've had a long day.  I cook everything that goes in their mouths except rice cakes.  And nuts.  And dried fruit.  And fresh fruit.  You get the picture.  There is no need to worry about the health and well-being of anybody except perhaps me.  They are okay.  They are very happy and social and while I might say "They deserve better than me," that's the depression talking.  Everybody I know says I'm a good mother (even if on the scattered side).  So please don't call Child Protective Services.  Just because my ears hurt doesn't mean I'm neglecting them or that I need to stick them somewhere away from me.  Perhaps this board was the wrong place to dump.  Again, I know everybody's trying to help, but really I need advice like: Take vitamin C and eat sardines.

Okay, I'm done with the self-defense.


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You are an amazing person and your intelligence and self-awareness are your greatest assets to fight your problems, like you have done all your life.

Ever pat yourself on the back for surviving so much.  You're a survivor!    What a big job you are doing with four kids and that is amazing as well!  You certainly help alot of people as well with your writing on the internet.
I hope you can get some practical help.  Is there anyone in the community or family that can help take some of your load?  Maybe one day where someone minds the kids?

Wondering if you have sinusitis?  I also get headaches that start with enlarged lymph nodes at the back of the neck on the right side normally first, usually it's sinusitis - so I wonder if you get that.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusitis  Reading that I'm surprised to see they say 90% of sinus headaches are actually migraines.  I get those too, especially once a month, but sinusitis can linger a long time and cause headaches, malaise and feeling off and can be confused with headaches every day.  I massage the lumps and rub down and it helps alot.

I wonder if you have it since it's common in adrenal fatigued people (which can lower your immune system) as I am too.  Also the possible mould problem in your house could have triggered it and you being asthmatic, they are linked.

Inhaling tea tree oil in a bowl of boiling water with a towel over the top has helped me so much. It clears the sinuses and I believe it's antibacterial / antifungal so it clears up the infection too.  Years ago I was getting script after script of antibiotics for it when we lived in a tropical environment.  If you have it Dr D will have many other cures I'm sure.

Hyperacusis seems to be inflammation based.  So maybe more omega 3s (like everyone's saying sardines!) would help.  All good for bubs development too.  http://www.babiesonline.com/articles/baby/breastfeeding/omega3fattyacids.asp  I second the ear plug idea and use one myself most of the time, no shame!

I hope you are getting enough calcium too?  Breastfeeding will take it out of you.  When I breastfed for 3 years I took large breastfeeding multivitamins and still felt quite fatigued.  If you can take a rest, and you'd still be doing something - making milk!  I read somewhere that breastfeeding and being pregnant are produces the biggest vitamin and minerals drain, so your body needs more than you ever did in your life.

The info about misophonia and sensory defensiveness is really interesting!  People with adrenal fatigue will often overreact to things with adrenalin because they cannot make a quick burst of cortisol so I wonder if that's part of it?  Don't scare me cos I'll scare you back worse with my screaming!  

What adrenal supplements were you taking?
Vitamin C, Vitamin B and licorice root tea are helping me a lot at the moment and having small frequent meals.
Hope you feel better soon!  This time will pass.


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I might be a survivor, but I don't feel like the fittest right now!   Thank you for your sweet words, Symbi.  I feel so much better when we're outside!  Yesterday we spent 4 1/2 hours outside and today it was nearly the same.  The sound goes out instead of toward me, and it makes all the difference in the world.  They can even all be talking at the same time and I don't have any trouble processing what they're all saying.

I believe my sinuses might be a problem.  In my exercises I'm supposed to breathe in deeply through my nose and out through pursed lips, and I have trouble breathing in through my nose.  I can do it, but I feel like I can't get breath fast enough.

It has occurred to me a few times over the last couple of years if maybe my brain isn't getting enough oxygen.  The other day, I'm ashamed to say, I was writing the date and I wrote 199..    20.. and had to sit there and think about it!  Having no sense of time passing makes it difficult.

We used to live in Miami and my body was very happy there.  It was a little on the hot side in the summer, sure, but I was very healthy.  No environmental allergies except my nose ran when the mango trees bloomed.  I never got sick except when I was pregnant (and then, as usual, I stayed sick) except when we'd come back up "north" to visit.  The right side of my nose is fine.  The left side is usually a little stopped up.  Oh.  Huh.  Everything's on the left side.  Interesting.  That's where my nosebleeds come from too--the left side.  


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Based on some of the pm's I've gotten, mostly from people who don't know me well, I feel the need to write an explanation.  I know y'all are tying to help, but let me say this:  I am not negligent of my children.  I do not sit in my room all day while they watch tv.  We don't even own a tv.  I spend more time with my children than working parents who have their children in school/daycare all day.  My children are smart and they learn quickly.  They haven't inherited any of my issues, or at least I can't see any yet. (My son got a little perhaps, but it may just be that he's a boy and he processes things differently.  That's what DH thinks anyway.)  We don't eat fast food when I've had a long day.  I cook everything that goes in their mouths except rice cakes.  And nuts.  And dried fruit.  And fresh fruit.  You get the picture.  There is no need to worry about the health and well-being of anybody except perhaps me.  They are okay.  They are very happy and social and while I might say "They deserve better than me," that's the depression talking.  Everybody I know says I'm a good mother (even if on the scattered side).  So please don't call Child Protective Services.  Just because my ears hurt doesn't mean I'm neglecting them or that I need to stick them somewhere away from me.  Perhaps this board was the wrong place to dump.  Again, I know everybody's trying to help, but really I need advice like: Take vitamin C and eat sardines.
Wow, there seem to be some overreactions there from some other people??!! you are doing an amazing job homeschooling 4 kids & coping with that & being sick & all...
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Glad to be someone who knows you!

I am the opposite but similar!  I have problems all on the right side, hyperacusis after blown eardrum after bad ear infection.  Then had perforated eardrum for many years chronic ear infections.  Sinus headaches always on the RHS and the back of the neck.  Get migraines starting there.  Oral lichen planus in mouth is more eroded and painful on RHS.  Generally though feel stronger, better circulation but therefore feel more pain on the RHS.
I'm really asymmetrical and I know the RHS seems larger.  Have combination fingerprints on the left hand side ring and middle fingers.

I'm right handed, I can't remember are you left handed?

Wonder if the left is your dominant nostril?  People switch the main nostril they breath out of every few hours.  But apparently one nostril is normally dominant.  Here's an interesting swara yoga article, very interesting theories!  http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/swara_yoga.htm

Interesting hey!

BTW When we lived in the tropics I also used to smoke and had a perforated eardrum that always got infected, you guessed it on the right side!  hear the destiny music, Beethoven Symphony No. 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcR1ZS2hVo
(Bdun dun dun duuuuun. . . dun dun dun duuuuun)


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Oh yeah about the tropics - sinuses need humidity or they dry out and that's normally where you get trouble.  They actually add humidity and warmth to the air you breath.  There are theories that the rise in asthma is because of people breathing through the mouth so the straight air goes into the lungs.

So living in the humidity is good for the sinuses!  Just about every time I go into airconditioning I get a sinus headache !


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teeth on forks, clicking pens, high pitch noises, a tv not off and still ...buzzing. i hear every thing, i hear it all the time to the point were i can't understand the words coming from the mouth talking to me. i have become pretty good at reading lips not becuse i can't hear but becuse i hear every thing all at once! i leave the music on to dround it out so i can sleep.
crazzy? no that sounded saine to me. perfectly thought out and decribed. of course i am a person who is totaly emotonaly cut off and who exspesses themself best when depressed. crazzy is not talking to the car it is exspecting the car to talk back in a normal conversation. good thing or i would ocupy the room on the other side of the assylum.
sounds like time for r and r and a baby sitter for a few days. or better yet a week just by yourself. no one you know and no one demanding anything from you. you sound over whelmed and the rest is just your body yelling that it is being over taxed. granted you over did it with the boxes. for my family if you hurt something it is a long time catching up becuse we have some inbuilt resistance to pain. a sort of "i don't have time for pain" that pushes it to the back of the mind. what ever hurts most might be noticed but every thing else gets voided by the brain untill the priority is fixed and then the next one ques up for attention. for you it sounds like they are all coming at you like a mob and every other "good citazen" with even a minor complaint is looking for rocks to throw. time to hit the reset button. if i knew of one of those vote for the person who most needs a vaction i would call in a million votes for ya.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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Er um...after what you shared about what you've been through I can believe you've been exhausted since 6!  How do I know?  Well...I have been exhausted since 5 due to family issues.  Ribbit...I really don't think you give yourself enough credit.  I have felt just like you.  Really I have but maybe for different reasons.  I tried every antidepressant known.  I was 32 once wondering if I felt this bad now what will 50 feel like.  Big hug.
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Feeding you gut properly will work on quieting your ear nerves.  Your left vagus nerve is acting up.

Quoted from Dr. Tomatis
The vagus nerve - the nerve of the vagrant soul.
The brain monitors the gut through the left vagus, but that pathway is not acting normally for you now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

Print out Dr. D' Adamo's recommendations.  Multiple copies.  Paste one on a wall at eye level in an out-of-the-way place where you will be forced to read it everyday.

You are not crazy, and yes families "inherit" the same kind of problems.  The more you talk about yours, the more it sounds like mine.  Even the closed religious group background is something that I "inherit" issues from.

Try to get some Gregorian chant to listen to - unwind that there vagus nerve.  There is even a version of the "Highway Code" - if you prefer your music to not have any particular religious message.  It is a sung version of the old UK traffic regulations (pre EU) sung in chant.  Beautiful.  Silly.  Will help you de-stress, while you listen to English choristers enunciate the rules of conduct at a "level crossing."



Your combined pathologies make tons of sense to me.  I know that this is little help, but eating and treating as Dr. D' Adamo recommends is your best way to tackle the load!


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Aww, hugs. I'm the same way with "little kid noises" because of damage to my left ear- high pitched noises are downright painful.

Things have gotten a lot easier as my kids got bigger- their voices aren't as high-pitched anymore, and they've learned to be quiet when I need them to be. Plenty of times, I give my son the choice between playing quietly indoors or being rambunctious outside. I couldn't do that when he was 2, but at age 8 he can safely play outside unsupervised.

Probably the only way they were really affected by my noise sensitivity was regarding noisy electronic toys. I could not allow  them in my house, period. I turned into a yelling monster when those things were around. I hurt the feelings of some adult gift-givers on occasion, but my kids weren't damaged by not having noisy baby toys.


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My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Ribbit,
I hope you know how much we all appreciate all that you are.  I think you are wonderful giving human being that is just exhausted from the 24/7 responsibilities that you have. Taking care of 4 young children and home schooling them plus cooking, cleaning, etc.  It makes me tired just hearing about all that you have to do.
Hope some of the suggestions here are in some way helpful to you.  I said it before but I just want to give you a big hug.
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This is so funny.. last night after I sat quetley I said to my self.. I wonder IF WHEN I UNLOAD .. I really want as much advise as we all heaped on you..

Then also I wondered if it could not just be a post where one can unload without anyone replying.. or just with a smiley or two..

finally what got me was the WAY we all seem to be hollering about 4 children .. one could think no one ever had 4 kids.. little goats,, little souls.. after all -the Boomers all had grown up having 4 kids, why then do we all jump up and down.. all I could figure is that we admire stay at home and homeschooling moms because we would be afraid to try it..

then again..  in the end I had taken on 4 teens. Put their mom in rehab.. got them through college and made good people out of them.. I was way too old.. and I was exhausted.. but I was also sick for years before BTD and then took care of mom for years.. i know what exhaustion felt like.. the last thing I wanted was advise..I just wish I did not have to spend my fathers inheritansc and my moms and my grandparents inheritances to pay for it all.. but by now what would I have done with all that money???   

so here is a message and IT IS NOT telling you to do anything.. just unload .. I just did and the last thing I want is to get any advise.. just let me be.. I will manage .. with BTD and this board.. ahh I feel better already..    and contrary to what we all sound like .. no one here suggests to call child welfare,, maybe MOMS welfare would be better.. amybe we need to start a club for moms to get a break from life as we experience it.. what would we call it?? .. STOP THE WORLD I WANT TO GET OFF was a show long ago.. now I know what that show was showing me then 40 years ago,, did not understand it then..  

  


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The right side of my nose is fine.  The left side is usually a little stopped up.  Oh.  Huh.  Everything's on the left side.  Interesting.  That's where my nosebleeds come from too--the left side.  

The left side is what stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system, right?  Do you have a deviated septum?  Maybe those breathe-right strips will help, at least at night (which is probably the most important time).  I tried them recently and was quite satisfied with the result!

I will second the idea that mold could be contributing to your problem.  You know what it does to me...   Especially if you live near a creek.  The mold doesn't have to be growing inside the house to affect you.

A few months ago I was seriously wondering if I had sensory integration disorder.  I certainly don't, but I was so fatigued and under such constant stress that I was experiencing the symptoms.  I won't say that rest will cure everything, but good rest is what helps more than anything to recover from a long bout of chronic stress, so it should help you cope.  I cope with everything better when well-rested.  Yesterday at work, someone dropped a pallet on the floor (one of my worst noises at work), and it didn't even startle me!

About caffeine: I know the coffee and green tea help you to keep going, but caffeine is a serious drain on your adrenals.  Stimulants enable you to force yourself to keep going when you need rest, and to make matters worse, when you finally do take some rest, it isn't very effective because the stimulant is still keeping you "keyed up" to a degree.  Is there any way your DH could take some time off from work to give you a couple weeks of rest from full-time mommy duty?

Regarding back pain: I recently learned, by accident (yes, a benefit from yoga!) that stretching the muscles at the front of my hip joint (the hip flexor) relieved my back pain.  I tried the same thing with my wrist, stretching the opposite side from the pain, and it helped there, too.  If you haven't been stretching your low back and hamstring, I'd do that too, along with hamstring and hip abductors.

Above all else, just remember that these trials are not because of weak character or spirit.  This is about your body's inability to successfully cope with the stress you're under.  Stress is a physiological problem, way more than it is a psychological problem.  Just look at people like us compared to some of the war veterans you may know.  We crack up from the normal stress of daily living, but (some of) those guys endured horrors beyond imagining and came through ok, and lived perfectly normal lives thereafter.  Some people are just biological capable of handling stress, and some (of us) aren't!
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The left side is what stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system, right?  Do you have a deviated septum?  Maybe those breathe-right strips will help, at least at night (which is probably the most important time).  I tried them recently and was quite satisfied with the result!


for me the strips are too scratchy and too pulling on my facial skin..

I use Wendys straws..the biggest ones and I cut them into half inch on the diagonal ..then i use them in my nose.. the reason I need them is not only to open the passage ways.. but I like to sleep on the side.. whichever side it is the other side drains down into it and then I can not breath because the nostril on the top gets so relaxed that it falls onto the other as it does not seem to know better.. also when I breath in heavy both nostrils close.. some sort of reactionary defect.. the straws help a lot..otherwise I have to wake up every 45 minutes and turn around..gets tiresome..and never any restful sleep..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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what an image! don't you worry they will get shoved up there and damage something?


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Battle Dwarf, that comment, being on the top of the page, can lead to confusion.  

With the reader supplying the missing context, what you are saying can seem to be quite different.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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when i posted i did not know it was going on a new page. i was talking about those straws. up the nose that sounds more dangerous that wearing your neclace to sleep.


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no the straws do not rise up but knocked out by inadvertantly touching..  getting air anyway you can is a good one..   haha funny what can happen here.. and I cantt hink of a better use for straws..


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Print out Dr. D' Adamo's recommendations.  Multiple copies.  Paste one on a wall at eye level in an out-of-the-way place where you will be forced to read it everyday.

Try to get some Gregorian chant to listen to ......

Your combined pathologies make tons of sense to me.  I know that this is little help, but eating and treating as Dr. D' Adamo recommends is your best way to tackle the load!


Oh, my goodness!  That was so funny!  I'll have to go listen to it again.  I know you and I have talked before about chants, and I have yet to look up an online station to listen to.  

I did finally get a hold of the Atlanta Tomatis center (after repeated calls and e-mails) and the very friendly secretary (who I wanted to hug through the phone because she was so nice) said they've never treated an adult and she doesn't know if it's available at all.  I asked her if she'd be willing to look into it, and she readily agreed and said she'd get back to me.

Funny that you mention hanging Dr. D's suggestions at eye level.  I'm the queen of notes and lists and hanging things at eye level so I'll see them.  I'm just on the verge of realizing that to survive adulthood I have to reorganize my life totally differently from most people.  "They" say it takes 7 days or 21 days or (whatever the newest studies prove) to create a habit.  But not for me.  If it's not right in front of me where I can see it, I won't remember it.  See, THAT sort of input is helpful.  Thanks, Paul.

I'm eating well.  Because of my new digestive problems, I can't eat meat and I have to eat lots of soft, mushy veggies.  That works fine for me.



Thank you all for your sweet words.  Yes, Goldie, your inbox is full, based on my inability to send you a p.m.   If you click the little box to the left of the messages, and then click Delete, they'll go away.  

TJ, glad to hear you're doing better.  We've had the discussion about coffee before.  I understand what you're saying and if I had nothing to do all day but to sleep and heal my adrenals, I'd do that for sure.  Because I know what it's doing to me.

Being a couple days off the adrenal/thyroid supplement is....well....odd.  The first day I felt sort of relieved.  It was interesting.  But since then, I've been so incredibly tired, even with coffee, that I can't think.  I was stumbling all over my words and kept mixing them up.  So embarrassing.  I know it can be fixed, and I know it's physiological.  

It's better since I ate dinner and got the children in bed (which was no small feat).  It's like herding cats.  Or putting crickets in a bucket.  Again, though, it's not that they're awful, it's just that I can't organize my brain enough to organize them.  My 7 y.o.-going-on-18 y.o. thinks she's the mother.  She's really got it all together.  She's everything I always wished I was.  I try to work with that.  She'll be the CEO of a great company one day.

Our vacuum is broken and a friend came over today to clean my carpets with her fantastic vacuum.  It needed it.  The little ones had spilled cat food, rice and flax seeds on the carpet.  Imagine.

We played board games this afternoon and I wore headphones (the sound-deafening kind).  I could still hear them, but the noise didn't hurt my ears.  I'm considering trying one little foam ear plug in my left ear.  


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Oh, and I will give some more thought to the ear/sinus/migraine/everything else idea.  All my troubles are on the left side of my body.  


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Good to hear about headphones and checking for some help!  I'm thinking of getting full on noise cancelling ear muffs, but headphones do in a pinch. ahhr peace .  

I have that not being about to remember names of things thing as well, what was it called again?    I'm also the queen of lists and never keep habits, it's like life is irregular always with me and if I did have a routine it would be boring anyway.   Rushing around too much, lost my lists today and was bereft as if I couldn't be organised without those.  

You're not the only one!  Working in circles flitting from thing to thing, I get along the strait lines (literal world) eventually!  

Hope you get used to no adrenal supps, maybe your body will feel relieved because we aren't supposed to take herbs too long and herbs stop working anyway once the body gets used to them I read after six weeks or so.  Guess it may be different with everyone.  Wonder if there are other adaptogens you could take and alternate them?  Like Korean or Chinese ginseng, Ashwaghanda, and Ginkgo biloba etc.  


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Ditto with Symbi especially for adaptogens plus Vit C.


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Our vacuum is broken and a friend came over today to clean my carpets with her fantastic vacuum.  It needed it.  The little ones had spilled cat food, rice and flax seeds on the carpet.  Imagine.
Aah...maybe you could have let the cats & the chickens in to clean it up... Nice that someone came to help you by doing the vacuuming

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Wonder if there are other adaptogens you could take and alternate them?  Like Korean or Chinese ginseng, Ashwaghanda, and Ginkgo biloba etc.  


Not while I'm nursing a baby.

Welcome to the nonnie world, Symbi.

Possum, we're still waiting to get chickens.  I asked DH when the coops were going to be ready and he said, "They're basically ready.  Almost."  And I said, "Well, when they're ready, I'll order chickens.  I'm waiting on you to finish."  And he said, "If you order the chickens, it forces me to finish."  Ah-ha! I thought. It's motivation he needs.  He said, "Give me a deadline and I'll have them finished.  So.  I'll be ordering chickens soon.  A fellow homeschooling family nearby said they were interested in ordering some too, and they'd be willing to take all the roosters (to eat) if we make a bulk order and split it.  I don't want roosters for several reasons, and certainly not to eat.


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How much work are chickens? I thought having a hamster was too much work!

It's great that your oldest is such a helper, but it's a mixed blessing. You have to be careful not to rely on her too much so she doesn't get resentful of her younger siblings. I have the same thing going on with my oldest, and now that the "little sister" is a teenager (and still not doing as many chores as the older one) there's a lot of resentment going around. DD1 at 12 did more housework than DD2 does at nearly 14. But both were extremely helpful when DS was an infant (and they were 5 and 7).

As long as  they're enjoying their siblings, it's fine to rely on them for help, especially at stressful times such as bedtime. Just make sure it's balanced with plenty of free play at other times of day.


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Hey I emptied my mailbox.. could not figure out how to keep the info.. I wanted to keep.. so I emailed the info to my self..  

I read your not about listening and then I followed the thread until I found this... IT is funnyy.. and so fitting..    something I keep just so I can hear it again some later date..

so here is the link agin..

http://andrewplus.blogspot.com/2008/12/by-popular-demand-highway-code-part-i.html

and another for clicking on the world globe for inspiering music..    

http://ondamedworld.com/  

I play it when I need to get on with stuff I don't care to do..

Ribbit..

all you issues are on the left side.. ???? above the shoulders or below also??  the left side of the brain is the logical side.. so if that needs changes then maybe there is a clue..

but if its the whole body on the left than  its another thing..


What are you calling your chickens??

I had a chicken that was meant for th pot.. then it layed on egg and so made all the difference in it's own life.. for 16 years.. I could diaper it and I could put it in the baby carrige and take it for a walk but----- I could never teach it to stay out of the neighbors yard.. they complaint bitterly.. but the worms over there where so much better.. must have been on O type chicken.. Its geno Na,e was Züsex.. beige and white feathers.. it killed any other bird we tried to add to the coop.. by morning it was time for a funeral.. but every sunday morning that chicken layed on egg on my soft quilt.. and not a spot on it.. WOW!!!! so much fun to remember.. we used to put a date on the eggs so udse them up in succession.. they where brown eggs..      



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no work at all .. place paper in the bottom.. easy clean up of the stall .. feed them corn or I used to feed it fresh thin sliced lungs and livers.. and fresh greens in winter.. it liked fruit and nearly everything fresh.. did I say that MY chicken was BTD O???     


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I don't want roosters for several reasons, and certainly not to eat.


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I did finally get a hold of the Atlanta Tomatis center (after repeated calls and e-mails) and the very friendly secretary (who I wanted to hug through the phone because she was so nice) said they've never treated an adult and she doesn't know if it's available at all.  I asked her if she'd be willing to look into it, and she readily agreed and said she'd get back to me.
It sounds like they have very little expertise with the therapy.  The therapist who was originally trained might well have moved on and "left notes" on how to work the system.  I know that the system works on adults my therapist was 18 when he received his therapy and Gerard Depardieu was an adult as well.  The system is useful for adults who want to be completely fluent in another language, as therapy in the language literally opens the ear to the new frequencies used.

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Funny that you mention hanging Dr. D's suggestions at eye level.  I'm the queen of notes and lists and hanging things at eye level so I'll see them.  I'm just on the verge of realizing that to survive adulthood I have to reorganize my life totally differently from most people.  "They" say it takes 7 days or 21 days or (whatever the newest studies prove) to create a habit.  But not for me.  If it's not right in front of me where I can see it, I won't remember it.  See, THAT sort of input is helpful.  Thanks, Paul.
It works and it is necessary.  I stopped taking recommended medication for my blood pressure because I lacked that kind of reinforcement.  

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We played board games this afternoon and I wore headphones (the sound-deafening kind).  I could still hear them, but the noise didn't hurt my ears.  I'm considering trying one little foam ear plug in my left ear.  
Please do not even consider the wax ear plugs - that is how I scratched my ear canals!  The skin inside your ears cannot heal; there are not seven layers of skin with lots of blood and lymph to repair physical trauma.  

Foam will not scratch.


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Thank you, MG.

Arlene, check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

People who have misophonia are most commonly annoyed, or even enraged, by the sound of other people eating or breathing. Oddly, they are not normally annoyed by sounds that they themselves make. Reactions to these sounds are not limited however to just loud eating noises, people with Misophonia find themselves affected by all kinds of noises.

Often, people who have misophonia are also annoyed by other people's repetitive movements, such as leg-tapping, nail-biting and typing.

Sensitivity to these sounds tends to be exacerbated by stress or feeling tired/run down.


Sounds like your father???  Sounds like me too, except I don't get angry, I just want to run away.  Fight or flight.  Your dad had the "fight" and I have the "flight".


You’re right it sounded just like my Dad.  It is nice to have a name for it.

I knew my father loved me, but just like all children I wanted to please him and NOT make him angry.   Children are flexible and adjustable.  Your children will love you and adjust to your quirks.  

Hopefully following Dr. D’s advice you’ll find some peace.


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all you issues are on the left side.. ???? above the shoulders or below also??  the left side of the brain is the logical side.. so if that needs changes then maybe there is a clue..

but if its the whole body on the left than  its another thing..



Below too.  It's my left arm that goes to sleep at night (very annoying), my left clavicle that always needs a chiropractic adjustment, my left wrist that pops, my left hip that gives me a good deal of trouble (since the baby's birth), the left leg that lost its ability to walk after the baby's birth (it slowly healed, over the course of a few weeks).....


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I had a chicken that was meant for th pot.. then it layed on egg and so made all the difference in it's own life.. for 16 years.. I could diaper it and I could put it in the baby carrige and take it for a walk but----- I could never teach it to stay out of the neighbors yard.. they complaint bitterly.. but the worms over there where so much better.. must have been on O type chicken.. Its geno Na,e was Züsex.. beige and white feathers.. it killed any other bird we tried to add to the coop.. by morning it was time for a funeral.. but every sunday morning that chicken layed on egg on my soft quilt.. and not a spot on it.. WOW!!!! so much fun to remember.. we used to put a date on the eggs so udse them up in succession.. they where brown eggs..      

Very funny story!!
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Possum, we're still waiting to get chickens.  I asked DH when the coops were going to be ready and he said, "They're basically ready.  Almost."  And I said, "Well, when they're ready, I'll order chickens.  I'm waiting on you to finish."  And he said, "If you order the chickens, it forces me to finish."  Ah-ha! I thought. It's motivation he needs.  He said, "Give me a deadline and I'll have them finished.  So.  I'll be ordering chickens soon.  A fellow homeschooling family nearby said they were interested in ordering some too, and they'd be willing to take all the roosters (to eat) if we make a bulk order and split it.  I don't want roosters for several reasons, and certainly not to eat.
Yeah my man needs that sort of motivation too...as do I It just works that way for some of us... Happy chicken farming I can well imagine one of the reasons why you don't want a rooster... One lived quite a way from us but it woke the whole neighbourhood up at 5.30am (& sometimes in the night too - how the heck does that work??!! )

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I know.  We raised several batches of chickens in my teenage years and I quickly learned to despise those roosters.  Daddy said I'd get used to them crowing and wouldn't hear them after a while, but I'm a light enough sleeper that I always heard them, even though he put the pen way down in the woods.  And then one attacked my leg one day and that was the end for me.  I'll stick with hens, thankyouverymuch.


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Did it think you were a chicken?? Do you have skinny legs
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I know.  We raised several batches of chickens in my teenage years and I quickly learned to despise those roosters.  Daddy said I'd get used to them crowing and wouldn't hear them after a while, but I'm a light enough sleeper that I always heard them, even though he put the pen way down in the woods.  And then one attacked my leg one day and that was the end for me.  I'll stick with hens, thankyouverymuch.

I got a laugh out of it when a rooster attacked me one day.  I knew they had a pecking order in the coop, but didn't know it carried over to the caretakers until I entered the house to feed them and there was this little cluck and all of the chickens cleared a path between the top rooster and me.  He ruffled his feathers and scratched the floor a bit, then came at me.  I picked him up on my toe and set him back on the other side of the house.  he came again, so I put him up the wall a bit and let him slide down.  He came a third time, so I planted him about half-way up the wall.  He shook that one off and went and reaffirmed his dominance with the highest underling.

It was about a month later when I had the last laugh, though, because he became Thanksgiving dinner.


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we have only ever had one that i remember as bad (and we have had alot of chickens). he had a thing for attacking you from behind when you took away the eggs. one day he tried that and i was within reach of a short 2x4. that was the end of that roster. i kept his tail feathers as a trophy...i still have them.
mother came up with a much better way however, she dicovered that they realy do not like being sprayed with the water hose. after i moved out she got another upity roster and she would squirt him with the water hose when ever he raised his hackles at her. eventuly she was bale to only carry a nossles with her and point it threatningly and after a while she did not even have to do that. she like a roster becuse it changes the taste of the eggs. with out him the eggs will always be yellow and tastless just like the store bought eggs. letting them out for bugs and seeds also adds to the health of chicken and egg.


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Well, we spent the weekend with my parents and we talked for hours and hours about family history.  My mother said that when my sister was evaluated, they ask if there was a family history of bipolar.  I've e-mailed my sister asking for more info about that and I'm waiting to hear back. I finally got my mother to admit that she had postpartum depression after all of us.  I asked her when the depression lifted and she said she didn't think it ever did.     This is the first time she has ever mentioned that she had an issue.  It was always everybody else.  My mother also said prolapse and neuropathy run in the family.  All sorts of foot trouble and nerve trouble in the hands and pelvic area.  I wish she'd told me all this before.

I'm losing the mobility in my left middle finger.  It hasn't been normal since the birth.  It tingles and hurts and it doesn't get better after the chiropractor does his thing.

I feel like my whole body is just falling apart.  I'm too young for this.  I  know this is a middle-age Warrior thing, but nobody else in the family is a Warrior, and I'm not middle-age yet.  

I talked for a couple of hours yesterday with my aunt, who is a former nurse.  She worked in rehab.  She wondered if, based on my left-side troubles and mental confusion, if I had a mild stroke during the birth.  I said, "Don't you think my midwife would have noticed if I'd had a stroke?"  "No," she said, "She was down at your other end."   Then she reminded me that her son, my cousin, had a stroke a couple of years ago.  He was about the age I am now.  He lost most of the vision in one eye from it.  She said in her years as a stroke-victim rehab nurse, it's entirely possible.

I'm totally reliant on spell check now.  I can't remember how to spell things.  Which is annoying because I've always been a pretty good speller (thank you very much, visual memory).  My short-term memory hasn't ever been real strong, but it's very poor now.  I had to reread this entire thread because I couldn't remember any of it.

While I was planting cucumbers yesterday I realized something, and DH said it sounded very reasonable to him.  I've always been very project-oriented.  I can't keep a routine or schedule (having children helps, because they sort of make their on routine, and it works fine for us).  I told DH this: "If there's nothing on my calendar or nothing to look forward to, I lose my way.  The depression sets in.  If I have some project or event to look forward to, it keep my adrenaline up and I can keep going.  When there's nothing to do, I fall apart.  I think that keeping projects going all the time helps pull me out of the depression.  I always enjoy my garden.  There's always stuff I can do.  Even if my mind and body say, "I don't want to garden.  I just want to go lay in bed and cry," if I go distract myself in the garden, I'll perk up.

My mom told me when she was growing up nobody was allowed to use the word "crazy" or "nervous".  Grandmother would get very upset.  "We are not CRAZY!" she'd holler.  My mom and her dad were both jittery from asthma meds and too much coffee, respectively, and Grandmother would slam doors just to see them jump, and then berate them for jumping.  "You're acting nervous!  We aren't nervous people!"     She would never talk about her family to my mother, but my mother found out eventually that Grandmother's niece was in and out of asylums, and there were at least two suicides and a good bit of alcoholism to try to deal with "whatever" it is that we've all got.  (Sorry, Isa, but telling myself it's not real is simply denial, and I've been denying long enough now.) Grandmother told me some of it a few years ago when I asked.  Mama doesn't understand why she'd tell me but not her.     I asked Mama if I could contact extended relatives to ask what that distant cousin was diagnosed with and she said, "NOOOOOO! We don't ever talk about stuff like this.  Everybody's very touchy and in denial."  And then I got to thinking that it was a while back anyway, and what they diagnosed her with then would be different from what they'd call it now.  My paternal aunt said she thinks the "bipolar" thing is reasonable.  She said she remembers when they'd go to church (both parents' families knew each other growing up) and her own parents would wonder out loud how my mother's mother would be that week.  She said she'd be happy and talkative and sweet one week and then for weeks after that she would barely mutter a greeting and sit there silently, all spaced-out.  I understand that.  She said it was obvious enough that everybody sort of knew to steer clear of her when she was in one of her moods.  But it wasn't just simply the normal mood swings everybody has.  It was extreme and prolonged.

Oh.  I also asked my aunt about the MRI (which I was supposed to have today but we canceled because we're going to find a cheaper place to do it).  She said I needed to have one done of my upper body as well, to check on lung scarring from asthma and check on my brain to see if there's evidence of stroke.  I said, "Well, should I get this all done at the same time?"  "No," she advised.  "Just start at the bottom and work your way up."

Where can I find adaptogens?


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OK here is a lot to consider.. first of keep up doing those projects that PREVENT you from feeling miserable.. then when You are in a good place for a moment.. send on email to every last relative and explain what you are experiencing 'since you have the babies'  make them the excuse to shock everyone out of their stupor.. You have every right to talk about it to anyone who would write you back.. those that don't will talk about it behind your back.. but you don't need them..

YOU ARE A BRAVE woman and you are coming into your own..

I am planning to do somewhat similar.. I am leaving my house.. as I feel its not a good home for me right now.. I will travel to whomever will invite me and do a weeks worth of ONDAMED on them.. I have seen so much good from it that I will use it to give me a year (a few month) of travel wherever it takes me.. I am brave to do that to and it will help me to clear out my cobwebs..

What is important is what is going on in your head.. If you can read and retain.. then please go and look for the books now available -with NEU thinking- from Dr Daniel G Amen, MD.. he is from a new group of specialists that do a brain scan that is totally differing in after care.. Please read it and then decide where to spend money on tests.. its a smallish book and you get the picture fast as it is full of pics on brains.. and not all related to strokes..

I guess strokes could be on issue but nutrition will make that better.. and in the case of Neuropathy  ONDAMED definitely .. helps as well .. so I do have some knowledge of what I speak of..contact me if you wish..

BUT I think you are on the right track of finding out what is going on in your family.. the clues are all there and you know the results as soon as the questions are answered.. and imagine if your children would not have to suffer because you are curing hereditary issues with nutrients..

Good luck and thank you for sharing so openly.. like I said.. trust you to your life.. and all the gossip after will die down if you are not afraid..  


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Book on adaptogens:

http://www.adaptogensinamerica.com/

Some Adaptogens are common herbs that you might grow in the garden or buy in a health food store.

Some of the herbs listed in the book:

American Ginseng, Amla, Ashwagandha, Asian Ginseng, Astragalus, Cordyceps, Dang Shen, Eleuthero, Guduchi, He Shou Wu, Holy Basil ,Jiaogulan, Lavendar, Licorice, Lycium, Prince Seng, Reishi, Rhaponticum, Rhodiola, Schisandra, Shatavari, Shilajit


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Half of those I've never heard of, and some you can't take while you're nursing a baby.  Although I might anyway.  Or maybe I just need to wait this out a few more months until the baby's eating some solids and nursing less, and then I can try them.

I will look for the book on Amazon.  And Dr. Amen's books.


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Dr Daniel G Amen, MD.. Change your Brain Change your Life you can google info under his name .. or ask me more about it ..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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That's one of the books i'm reading read the first 50 pages night before last. very good read.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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Thanks for sharing Ribbit...you've explained some things about my own Mother (& Father too for that matter) that I recognise My Mother has always needed something to look forward to, or work on, or some company to keep, to lift her moods...

I hope you get some clear results & answers to your questions...It's great that you will & do have the knowledge to pass on to this next generation re the relevant nutrition etc... It's one of the key things, as you know, in correcting the imbalances that your family does & has suffered from & it is good you have this outlet too

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Interesting confirmation in it that one can change the BRAIN structure itself if need be.. and how one can make it better through foods..

  
and with the perfection of UNDERSTANDING each FOOD here just IMAGINE what we can accomplish.. the combo of that and us here.. POWER HOUSES  squared!!!
    

actually anyone with Depression or other addiction stuff should read that book and see what MENTAL and BRAIN STRUCTURE foods could do... Different foods for different moods, addictions and the like ..  


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You've got to realize something about "things you can't take while nursing a baby." A good deal of those disclaimers are there to cover the behinds of the supplement sellers/supplement suggestors. It thoroughly pissed me off, when I was depressed after DS was born, that there have been more studies on Prozac than St. John's Wort in nursing moms! I elected to take the pharmaceuticals for that reason. I wasn't convinced they were safer or better, but at least studies had been done on their safety and it seemed like a smaller risk than an "untested" herb. DS was about a year old when I started back up on Prozac (I'd taken it in the past, but was med-free when he was conceived.) I honestly can't remember if he was fully weaned yet when I stopped the Prozac and started the 5-HTP, but at the very least he was over 3 years old and not getting a whole lot of milk.

When looking at drugs or herbs for a lactating mom, you need to factor in a bunch of things: the risk to baby if you take the drug, the risks to both mom and baby if mom goes untreated, the risks to the baby of premature weaning if mom weans to use the drug, as well as the risk/benefits of alternative treatments. You've got to take care of yourself, or you can't properly take care of the kids. I remember reading a study about depressed moms being less responsive than non-depressed moms, nursed their kids less, and the babies actually grew less. That's another factor in the risk/benefit equation. Trace amounts of Prozac are better for the baby than not getting enough milk, and either one of those potential risks are slighter than the known risks of formula feeding.

Just because an herb is "not 100% without risk for nursing moms" is not an automatic "you can't use this while nursing." It just means that you have to more carefully weigh the risks and benefits.  And remember that the risks to baby go down over time, even if the baby isn't on any or many solid foods yet. Even a 2mo has a more mature liver than a newborn does.

If you need mental health treatment right now, look into what drugs and herbs are likely to help you, then study the potential effects of each one on the nursling. The  better-studied pharmaceuticals may make more sense right now, with the plan to switch to natural herbs when the baby is bigger. Or perhaps you feel confident that a specific herb, or a few specific herbs, are the all-around better choice. They've certainly been used for longer, though they lack the scientific studies.

Good luck.


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Well, I got into some of DH's 100% chocolate last night.  I ate two squares and within minutes felt a little better.  I haven't been able to order anything else yet.  I have a cold and can't think.


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Thanks, Ruthie.  You're right.  I appreciate your input.  My midwife is very careful to follow the "rules" about herbs.  If there's any question, she plays it safe.  But I sure would like to know what's historically done.  I've even considered thawing the placenta that's in my freezer.......but they say it's only okay to use up to 6 months after the birth, and we're passing 8 now.

She's at 20 lbs.  I would like to hear some stories of lactating mothers taking herbal supplements without negative affect.  I'd much rather do that.  


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I recently discovered sardines too...I don't like the taste but I eat them anyway.  I keep them in the fridg...I think when they are cold they taste better.  I spread then on homemade flax bread with a slice of onion.
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Well, a websearch for "rhodiola and lactation" turned up a long article about rhodiola and the sentence "Evidence on the safety and appropriateness of Rhodiola rosea supplementation during pregnancy and lactation is currently unavailable. " Gee, thanks. That was helpful.

Maybe try the postpartum depression forum at mothering.com . You may find women there who have used herbs and other non-drug treatments for PPD, along with more references than I can think of offhand.

Ah, I remembered the name of the blog I orignally found through MDC. The author also has a book out on healing PPD through diet.  http://www.rebuild-from-depression.com/blog/


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I would NOT take any thing DRD said is not Blood type advised.. ST Johnswort is one of these..

on the other hand may I suggest you look up http://www.ondamed.net and at the top of the page find a practitioner in your area.. the help you would be getting is more specific to your body brain connection.. If you wish to email me please feel free to do so..  

I know this is not the forum for it.. but the results are worth my breaching protocol.. sorry all others..


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No, I'm not suggesting St. John's Wort for anybody right now. But when I was lactating and depressed, it was the only anti-depressant herb  I was familiar with and I included it in my research.  But the rest of my post still stands: there has been a lot more research on pharmeceutical antidepressants for nursing moms than on herbal supplements for nursing moms. I chose a pharmaceutical when I was nursing for that reason, but I fully respect any mom who chooses to use herbal treatments instead.

The number one priority (and 100% safe treatment) is to correct any nutritional deficiencies that underly depression. That can be very slow healing though, and sometimes women need more help with acute symptoms. That's where herbs and drugs come in.


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HEY anytime you are 'desperate' do what needs to be done.. I am a big believer in thinking for my self.. but if I have time then NAP is my better choice.. that I am certain..


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no comment.. other than I like this guy..

http://improvementaftermovement.typepad.com/  

he comes from a different place but the answers are the same..


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C_sharp is on a good track ...and btw...when the victim and the judge are calmed down.... then peace might re-installe ....

I often saw ppdepression coz of too much of copper in the blood... perhaps might you want to go for the manganese as P.D. described it as well for the homeopathic phosphorus....but the antagoniste to copper is zink, so far would implement this in adequate dosage as well, min. 15 to 25 mg's doesn't bother da baby at all ...and then load up with Vit. C !!! This is a part of your uprizing detoxprogram


wish you a quick recovery


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forgot to point out how amazingly Alfalfa as a monosubstance might work for us ...........


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Thank you, Isa.  Copper has been mentioned to me a couple of times before as possibilities, and I will get some zinc.


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The only time I've had issues with nursing and taking supplements is when the supplement didn't agree with me.  If it made me sick to my stomach then it would give Esther a fever and diarrhea.  
I can't take vit. E that one really messes her up.  But most things that are good for my BTD she handles just fine.  In fact, if she's got a cold she gets over it faster if I take the vitamin C rather than give it directly to her. Not sure why, but it's one of the reasons I'm still nursing her.
I find it interesting that you've just had baby #4 and are going through a difficult time.  I did as well.  It took me a couple of years to be able to snap out of having Israel.  I was always in constant pain, back pain in particular.  It wasn't until I was reading one of Dr. D's e-mail newsletters that I got Bromelain and what an incredible difference that made!  
By baby #4 my body decided I was done for.  I'd crank out 4 children in the space of 6 years with little rest in between.  My midwife told me that on baby 4 while I was pregnant that if I didn't slow down my body was going to shut down.  Well, she was right.
She'd told me for two years that I needed to take 6 weeks after the pregnancy.  No standing still, no lifting anything heavier than the baby, sit only for 15 minutes at a time for the first couple of weeks.  Which means, no washing dishes, meals, laundry, floors, etc.  
I finally HAD to do this after I had Israel.  I had no choice.  If I started to do something my uterus would ache like someone was taking a hammer to an old bruise!  Then I would start to bleed.  Even 6 months post partum I couldn't get on my hands and knees and scrub a floor.  It was a couple of years before my uterus was healed enough to be able to do that kind of activity.
5 years later however, I had Esther and what a difference compared to having Israel.  My recovery with Esther was incredibly fast and easy.  No depression, no pain, I had energy, it was great!  
I realize that this is a very hard thing to do.  Fortunately my husband was around when Israel was born so he and the kids were able to do everything I couldn't.  
With Esther my oldest son took it upon himself to make sure that the laundry was done and meals were fixed.  He's quite efficient in the area of practicality.  Being that they were all another 5 years older it was a lot different than when they had been smaller.
I realize that damage has already been done to your body as was to mine.  So I had to go and repair.  Bromelain did it for me.  I also would wear my maternity belt often if I had to do any activity that required bending over.  I had to do this for a few years.  If you don't have a maternity belt than maybe try to tie a shirt around your lower back and across your pelvic area.  It really does help.

Anyhow, I won't bog you down anymore.  I say just give your body more time to heal.  And I do take lots of vitamin C when necessary.  I've taken 1,000's of mg at a time without it ever hurting Esther or any of my other nursing children.

Leanne!


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Thank you, Leanne.  I do remember that you had some of the same issues, but I didn't remember that you had so much space between #4 and #5.  I think we've talked about this through e-mail before.

I have quit doing a lot.  I quit cleaning much.  I piddle around in the garden, but I don't till and I don't lift anything.  I don't rake dirt.  I did a few weeks ago and paid for it.

I will get some of Dr. D's bromelain.  I know you told me about that before too.  Sometimes it takes desperation to do something for yourself.


Okay, Dr. D.  I sent Rob to the grocery store this morning and he got sardines.  So I'm munching on a sardine/peanut butter/rye cracker snack.  I think I'm going to have to say I'm glad I have a cold and can't taste or smell anything.


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With the exception of the peanut butter that actually sounds pretty good!  

You'll get better Ribbit.  Stress does incredible things to your body.  Your immune system goes way low for one thing.  It took my body over a year to recover just from Esther being in the hospital.  I'm getting ready to post, probably next month, about an issue that has finally been resolved.  And having a baby isn't exactly the easiest thing in the world for your body to do.  
It's easy to get overwhelmed when you've got small children and your work load collects interest as the day goes on!  Hoping you feel better the next day you put off certain things.  But they never get done.
I had a older wise woman tell me something once that I've never forgotten and took me years to learn to appreciate.  She said, "You know, the dishes, laundry and house cleaning will always be there.  It never gets done.  But you only have your children for a short time."
I don't believe she told me that to use as an excuse to have a messy house.  On the contrary.  Rather encouraging me to relax.  Things don't have to be perfect and they're not going to be and if you try to make it perfect then you'll stress out your whole family.  I'm not pointing any fingers; I'm speaking from experience.
I can't tell you the many times when in-laws would suddenly drop in.  I'd meet them outside and close the door tightly behind me.  I was a loud, subtle hint that I didn't want anyone in my house.  It wasn't fit for company.
Sometimes we have to do that.  If someone is offended, oh well.  They'll get over it.  Someday when the kids are out, I've been told, you'll desire to be able to make those big meals again and pick up messes that you didn't create.

I think this is a good place to unload.  Sometimes those in your closest proximity try to help but usually end up only being a hindrance.  Many times physical help isn't what you need, you just have to get your emotions off your chest.  Glad we all could be here!
Love ya lots!
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Okay, Dr. D.  I sent Rob to the grocery store this morning and he got sardines.  So I'm munching on a sardine/peanut butter/rye cracker snack.  I think I'm going to have to say I'm glad I have a cold and can't taste or smell anything.

I have been eating plain sardines on the lightly salted rice cakes lately...  I must need it because it is a really pleasant taste to me...  My DD says they stink, though...

Eat well and keep resting to allow the body to heal.  


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I can't take vit. E that one really messes her up.


posted above.. O's if I remember .. you are not supposed to take VIT E>makes the blood to thin ???? > per Dr D in his early books..

that is one reason I like the arly books they contained so much good stuff..  


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Thank you all for sharing.  Mental illness on my maternal side was also a taboo subject to discuss.  I’d gleam bits and pieces of the picture from descriptions of the actions of relatives.  The internet is an amazing thing where you not only can find out information to help you, you can find other people suffering the same or similar – you are not alone.

When I was born they said my mother hemorrhaged, so her aunt took care of me.  Then that aunt broke her arm.  The story goes that my mother was in the waiting room of the doctor’s office when she blurted out “I don’t know how I can take care of this baby.  I can’t do it.”  A woman, Eileen, said “I’ll take care of her.”  Eileen had a hysterectomy when she was 21 yrs old and couldn’t have any children.  Her husband worked at the company where my aunt (Mom’s sister) was a registered nurse.  So at 6 weeks old I went to live with Eileen & Casey.  My Mom checked into a mental institute.  My Dad would come to their house to visit me.  When I was 1 yr old my Dad built his new home in Lombard.  My Mom cried to be away from Chicago.  I went to my parent’s house every weekend to get my mother used to taking care of me.  When I was 2 yrs old, I went to live with my parents during the week but with Eileen & Casey on the weekends.  My mom was Catholic but my dad was not so he used condoms.  I am an only child.

Keep talking to us Ribbit.  It is therapeutic to get it out.  Even if I can’t offer any practical help, I’m hear to listen.


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RED LILAC what a nice post .. supportive and informative.. its indeed good that we can have our moments of need and our moments of sharing.. it opens all of us to be more honest when we need to be and still maintain a privateness not possible elsewhere.. nice!


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Thank you, Arlene.  We have odd things in common.


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Wow Red Lilac I had no idea!! Not sure its a "nice post" Goldie but glad you can share it RL!!!
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HEY HEY POSSUM ... I did not say it was a nice post.. I said IT was NICE to be able to POST.. hahaha


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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ya couldn't do it this morning. it's odd the way somethings are hushed up. i know people who were born with varios defects and "hidden" away by the family from the rest of the community untill they were quite old. i know my family has a tendancy to lose there minds when they get older "watering the plastic flowers" type thing. i heard about a great aunt or cousen that would only talk to trees to the point were her phy put speakers in one so she would "talk to him". i emagen she is dead by now. the things my 98 yr old great grandmother came up with a few months before her death were really weird, to much soap opera i suspect.


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In case some of you haven't seen the update, I got shot by a B-12 and I'm feeling pretty good!


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again I am wondering if you could have some issues on the left side hip bonbe high where your large intestines do not absorb B Vit..   give it a loving massage right to left circles..

glad to hear that it made you feel better.. did you take your pressure?


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At the dr Friday it was actually above what's normal for me, but I'd been walking around holding children, so that's not surprising.

The left hipbone, just inside, is where I had the postpartum neuropathy and where I continue to have pain on a bad day when the pelvic organ prolapse is giving me a hard time.  But the prolapse and neuropathy are somewhat new (8 months).

Maybe I was already weak there and that's why this whole thing happened anyway.


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At the dr Friday it was actually above what's normal for me, but I'd been walking around holding children, so that's not surprising.  if it is not low over time then you can rule that out.. B 12 will help..  

The left hipbone, just inside, is where I had the postpartum neuropathy and where I continue to have pain on a bad day when the pelvic organ prolapse is giving me a hard time.  But the prolapse and neuropathy are somewhat new (8 months).   DR D has protocols for the prolaps I think.. look into it.. but the space you're referring to is the place where we absorb B vitamins.. in a space of 2 inches I was told..  

Maybe I was already weak there and that's why this whole thing happened anyway. something triggered it as you where ok before.. by chance did you get your period the same time?  

DID you do the temp thing.. under the arm right as you wake up before moving around// .. shake down the night before  it would tell if your thyroid is ok.. worth doing..

The carpet might be the right thing to remove.. but you should go on vacation and let others do the job without you in the dust..  that stuff can settle into the lungs real deep.. not good..

good luck again..


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Quoted from Goldie
  if it is not low over time then you can rule that out.. B 12 will help..  

It's always low.  90/60 is about right for me, even throughout pregnancy (it's supposed to go up some then, but mine doesn't much until the very end).


[color=purple]Maybe I was already weak there and that's why this whole thing happened anyway.
something triggered it as you where ok before.. by chance did you get your period the same time?  

I haven't had a period in so long it's not funny.

DID you do the temp thing.. under the arm right as you wake up before moving around// .. shake down the night before  it would tell if your thyroid is ok.. worth doing..

T3-uptake is low.  Temperature is always low even though I always feel hot.






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Attn:  Paul-----

http://www.soundtherapyperth.com/research/emotions.php

Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmmmmmm.


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I haven't had a period in so long it's not funny.
thats hormones,(and a sign of imballance) i really would have them checked. actully the bp is not so bad, a little on the low side but not too bad. course if you do have an undetected heart defect then it would be a bit low. have you seen that cartioligest yet? have you goten any results from tests?


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I haven't had a period in so long it's not funny.
thats hormones,(and a sign of imballance) i really would have them checked. actully the bp is not so bad, a little on the low side but not too bad. course if you do have an undetected heart defect then it would be a bit low. have you seen that cartioligest yet? have you goten any results from tests?


Ribbit, you're still nursing, correct?  That most likely is the reason for lack of menstruation.  I don't think that there's anything wrong as far as hormonal imbalance.  


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It's 100% normal to "not menstruate" while nursing an infant, or even while nursing a toddler. The normal range for the first post-partum menstrual period while nursing is anywhere from 3 months to 2 years after birth, and some women are even outside that range.

I have friends with large families, kids spaced 2-3 years apart, using no other birth control besides breastfeeding. Typically, she'll get her period back when the baby is 18-24 months old, have a few cycles, then get pregnant again.

So, for a mom of an 8 month old to "not have had a period in so long it isn't funny" just sounds normal to me. She's been lactating for 8 months, and pregnant for about 9 months before that. That comes to about a year and a half of no periods.


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So glad to hear you are feeling better Ribbit.  Imagine something so simple, B-12, could make a world of difference.  A regular MD would have you on a boatload of prescription medicines by now.  


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Attn:  Paul-----

http://www.soundtherapyperth.com/research/emotions.php

Hmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmmmmmm.


Here's more on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhTOUD4yB34&feature=related



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The concern would be the low thyroid.. and strengthening that might be a good thing.. it's hormonal not just for fem. hormones.. but all of them..

I am not certain but I would for my self use the iodine to strengthen my thyroid.. its on easy fix and possible less invasive then even B12.. as for the absorption issue in the b12 area..left under the bend.. well that explains a few things for me..

then the carpet thingy and you could have had on episode you might never have again.. as for the heart prolaps .. DrD would have a fix for that..

In the end maybe the less you worry any more the better.. if you are feeling fine for now..

all the best..



  


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No, now I'm back exactly where I was before.  The B12 wore off.  

Thanks for doing the math for me, Ruth.  Yeah, October 1 1/2 years ago sounds about right.  That's not messed up, it's just normal for me.  Most lactating women (who nurse as much as I do) don't start back for a long, long time.  Thank you for understanding.


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I usually start back up around 9 months.  However, do to so much stress after Esther was admitted to the hospital I started at 4 months after her birth.  I was so disappointed.  


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No, now I'm back exactly where I was before.  The B12 wore off.  
Do you have some Methyl B12 from NAP?  I know that some may be wasted if you aren't absorbing it properly, but even getting a little will be better than none!  Hope you feel better, soon.



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Leanne, we had a honeymoon baby thanks to things getting off schedule because of wedding planning stress.

Joe, I have been taking Dr. D's Methyl B Plus.  I can't tell much difference.


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How long ago did you have the B-12 shot? Was it one week ago or two? However long ago it was, that's probably how far apart you need the shots right now.

Are sea veggies OK for you? I know they're a diamond on my SWAMI but I'm a completely different BT and GT from you. If you can have them, they're a great source of iodine plus lots of other trace minerals that your body may be lacking right now.


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NO IF YOU ARE not geting enough B's into your system then the left side of your intestines is not functioning prperly.. the only way you can get enough B 12 is by injection.. its the right thing to do that for a few times.. until you recover..  


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It was last Thursday, so it's been a week and 4 days.  It wore off in a week.


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that is correct for Vit B losses..

what you will eventually need to do is see what is going on in your intesines.. and fix that..

if not a shot .. then up the nose was another way ofthe red liquid.. but if it was the only thing then why not think it so.. it will not hurt you.. but fixing your body IS important.. and that has to happen in order to reverse the loss.. good luck..


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I've been on the BTD 5 years this month.  I'm doing the best I know to do for my gut.


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I've been on the BTD 5 years this month.  I'm doing the best I know to do for my gut.

Are you taking Intrinsa or eating lots of ghee?  I know I get more abdominal pain when I don't eat enough ghee...

Another item that I had/have to take to improve my cell energy is D-Ribose.  I use NOW brand powder because the tablets were too much when I started taking it.  I couldn't take more than a sprinkle, initially, because my practitioner originally said a tsp. 3x/day and the cells did too much detox and put me in bed for two days...

You may need to get another B12 shot.  Your doctor would be interested in how deficient you are...  Here is a website that explains the reason you may not be absorbing B12 from the diet:  http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminb12.asp  
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Pernicious anemia is an autoimmune disease that affects the gastric mucosa and results in gastric atrophy. This leads to the destruction of parietal cells, achlorhydria, and failure to produce intrinsic factor, resulting in vitamin B12 malabsorption [3,5,9-11]. If pernicious anemia is left untreated, it causes vitamin B12 deficiency, leading to megaloblastic anemia and neurological disorders, even in the presence of adequate dietary intake of vitamin B12.

My guess is that you have something like this going on...  Yo might need to use the balance technique each day (or maybe morning and night) to help correct this...  More will be better to get over the hump!


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Ribbit please read my posting on the trip to the emergecy room thread.. Its important .. you are way past this discussion here... best of luck..


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again I am wondering if you could have some issues on the left side hip bone high where your large intestines do not absorb B Vit..   give it a loving massage right to left circles.

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NO IF YOU ARE not geting enough B's into your system then the left side of your intestines is not functioning prperly.. the only way you can get enough B 12 is by injection.
This is coming in a little late I know, but I'd never heard that B vitamins are only absorbed by such a small, specific part of the digestive system.  It seems to me that they could be absorbed anywhere along small intestine, but not in the large intestine.
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Thank you, Joe.  Every doctor I've ever seen, whether alternative or conventional, has said, "It sounds like you're anemic."  But then they do their blood tests and see that everything's normal. But if I'm responding so well to the B12 shots, it must mean I'm deficient, right?

I eat lots of ghee.

A few days ago I got to thinking about what Dr. D said about taking oils until the PPD goes away, and I took a little measuring cup and put: 1 Tbsp. hemp oil and 2 Tbsp. Omega 3-6-9 mix.  I drank it down and it tasted very good to me.  Rob was standing there gagging watching me.  I started feeling better!  So now every morning I do that--3 Tbsp. of all that good oil.  I think I started out life sort of deprived of nutrients (my mom has all sorts of issues going on, and has for a long time), even though I've been taking vitamins since I was very small.  I've produced 4 beautiful, seemingly healthy children (thanks to the BTD).  My body is telling me it's done.  It's depleted.  I've given it all to the children, and now it's time to replenish what I gave away.


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Thank you, Joe.  Every doctor I've ever seen, whether alternative or conventional, has said, "It sounds like you're anemic."  But then they do their blood tests and see that everything's normal. But if I'm responding so well to the B12 shots, it must mean I'm deficient, right?

I eat lots of ghee.

A few days ago I got to thinking about what Dr. D said about taking oils until the PPD goes away, and I took a little measuring cup and put: 1 Tbsp. hemp oil and 2 Tbsp. Omega 3-6-9 mix.  I drank it down and it tasted very good to me.  Rob was standing there gagging watching me.  I started feeling better!  So now every morning I do that--3 Tbsp. of all that good oil.  I think I started out life sort of deprived of nutrients (my mom has all sorts of issues going on, and has for a long time), even though I've been taking vitamins since I was very small.  I've produced 4 beautiful, seemingly healthy children (thanks to the BTD).  My body is telling me it's done.  It's depleted.  I've given it all to the children, and now it's time to replenish what I gave away.

I would agree that you are B deficient.  I always look for the "Why" behind it.  It may be a lack from birth and then providing for the children.  It may be a lack of manufacturing or absorption...  I just posted in another thread that whenever I found out I was nutrient deficient, I have also found an allergy to either that nutrient or to the major suppliers of that nutrient in my diet...  This is something the balance will slowly help you with...

I also understand the need for some unusual treatment (like drinking 4T of oil like water).  Sometimes I just need something and take it and WW or DD go "EEEEWWW", but it makes me feel sooo good.


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[quote=973A few days ago I got to thinking about what Dr. D said about taking oils until the PPD goes away, and I took a little measuring cup and put: 1 Tbsp. hemp oil and 2 Tbsp. Omega 3-6-9 mix.  I drank it down and it tasted very good to me.  Rob was standing there gagging watching me.  I started feeling better!  So now every morning I do that--3 Tbsp. of all that good oil[/quote]Awesome!  Just stay tuned in to your body--it might need that right now, but it might not need it indefinitely!  (I say that because I'm bad about discovering something that works well for me, then assuming that I should just keep doing it forever after.)
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Yes, you're right, TJ.  I realize things change constantly and my body's needs change constantly.  I'm learning to just keep my mouth shut, but I've gotten such a reputation with my inlaws that the latest question (this weekend) was, "So what new foods are you allergic to this month?"  Stupid me, instead of laughing and ignoring the question, I attempted to explain the body's changing needs and how you can heal and eat one food again while something else may begin to bother you...and it all fell on deaf ears.  Then my brother-in-law's brother-in-law (ha--figure that one out) who I haven't seen since I first met him at my SIL's and BIL's wedding 8 years ago, said, "What's the blood type diet?"  Dad-in-law said some choice words and rolled his eyes.  I gave a brief explanation and he said, "Huh.  I'll look into it more.  Because I know when I eat _________ I'll have a bad workout session.  I'm an O."  I think it shocked everybody into silence.  I used the word "carcinogenic" and BIL said, "Can you spell that?"  I spelled it and then chuckled and said, "And that was with a glass of wine down the hatch!"  Everybody laughed and it sort of hid the fact that he then leaned over to his wife and said, "Is that right?" and she nodded.  Maybe I scored a point in their minds by being able to not only informatively educate a newcomer with big terms like lectins and carcinogens, complete with examples for each blood type, but by also being able to spell it.  


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I always say things come down to A -WORD.. my latest word I am fighting around with is balance.. my diab's not in balance and I am not getting balance.. ah -one word opens a door.. like 'sesame' the open door kind, not the bun type..

I am enthusiastic about BTD for 100 YEARS and yet, IT seems others just don't get it.. even to try it..

I am certain that my mom got colon cancer because she was fed American balance food stuff she should not have had.. until she was operated on.. and then BTD prolonged her life I am certain of that tooo.

but convincing anyone.. I am stunned at how difficult it is near impossible..

I have sent this posting site to so many.. but they never seem to get past the opening ER4YT headline..

seems they get intimidated soon and then give up..

maybe we should create a thread of all people who are on line today and just tell how we feel bout BTD/GENO.. but then there have been some great threads here..

like the hypoglycemia threads popping up every other week..  or one for old people, as we seem to be talking to the old folks more than the young ones.-- maybe we don't wish to take care of them as they get older.. while we are preventing our kids from having to worry about us by the time we get old.. we will be doing calisthenics..my fav word today ..  


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Yes, you're right, TJ.  I realize things change constantly and my body's needs change constantly.  I'm learning to just keep my mouth shut, but I've gotten such a reputation with my inlaws that the latest question (this weekend) was, "So what new foods are you allergic to this month?"  Stupid me, instead of laughing and ignoring the question, I attempted to explain the body's changing needs and how you can heal and eat one food again while something else may begin to bother you...and it all fell on deaf ears.  Then my brother-in-law's brother-in-law (ha--figure that one out) who I haven't seen since I first met him at my SIL's and BIL's wedding 8 years ago, said, "What's the blood type diet?"  Dad-in-law said some choice words and rolled his eyes.  I gave a brief explanation and he said, "Huh.  I'll look into it more.  Because I know when I eat _________ I'll have a bad workout session.  I'm an O."  I think it shocked everybody into silence.  I used the word "carcinogenic" and BIL said, "Can you spell that?"  I spelled it and then chuckled and said, "And that was with a glass of wine down the hatch!"  Everybody laughed and it sort of hid the fact that he then leaned over to his wife and said, "Is that right?" and she nodded.  Maybe I scored a point in their minds by being able to not only informatively educate a newcomer with big terms like lectins and carcinogens, complete with examples for each blood type, but by also being able to spell it.  
Good for you!! I love it!!! Bet you are still feeling good about that now??!! & rightly too!!
I know what it's like to get yourself into a corner & at times be feeling belittled in that way Sometimes we do it to ourselves (by not shutting up when we should eh?) and other times they do it... end result is, either way we can easily find ourselves "in a box"
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Way to go, If your doing the right thing you'll always have the last laugh. I've seen a lot of rolled eyes as well, but the other day my dad asked after BD left the house "How much weight has she lost anyway?"  So I told him 25 since Dec. He just kind to nodded his head. i'm sure he will make a point to tell my sister after her little remark about the BT diet last summer.

Don't you just love it. We got it right thinks to Dr D.


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I used the word "carcinogenic" and BIL said, "Can you spell that?"  I spelled it and then chuckled and said, "And that was with a glass of wine down the hatch!"  Everybody laughed and it sort of hid the fact that he then leaned over to his wife and said, "Is that right?" and she nodded.  Maybe I scored a point in their minds by being able to not only informatively educate a newcomer with big terms like lectins and carcinogens, complete with examples for each blood type, but by also being able to spell it.  

Confidence will sell more than timidity...  Go into the conversation knowing you are right and if everyone laughs, just shut up and let them hurt.  Ultimately, you know who will win!  BIL has figured it out enough to know he doesn't have all of the answers...


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I also have to note that the two newcomers (BIL's sister and her husband) were the only skinny people there besides me.   I will still call myself skinny even though I'm clinging to 15 postpregnancy pounds.  The B-12 shot is helping that come off.  DH, being very thin, doesn't fit into the family.  They're all on Atkins/South Beach/whatever and they're still all very overweight.  Unfortunately now my body is falling apart and I can't claim the health I had for the last 5 years on the BTD.  I was asked by a friend not too long ago, "Why do you think all this is happening to you even though you're on a good diet?"  I almost burst into tears, then I realized, "Wait.  It doesn't mean I'm gonna live forever!  It just improves the quality of life!"


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I was asked by a friend not too long ago, "Why do you think all this is happening to you even though you're on a good diet?"  I almost burst into tears, then I realized, "Wait.  It doesn't mean I'm gonna live forever!  It just improves the quality of life!"
That is hard!!

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Sure is.  I hate it that my health can't be a selling point!
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It would be lots worse if you weren't on the right diet, and you know that.  Maybe your health problems are why you need the diet.  I know with me, inflammatory problems rear their ugly heads as soon as I have wheat or corn.  So much cheerfuller(?) and productive on the diet.  Don't want to think what I'd be like without it!  


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more cheerfull
for myself it would be more tired and fatter. it feels so good when people who have known me for a while nottce the changes in my weight and energy. i sure needed it tonight! i basicly had to run/close grill and back window i had two peole to "help" me who clearly did not know what they were doing or did not care. we could have been out of there 30 min early if they had not lollygaged around the back talking i fineshed 30 min early and then had to help them too and i went up to the front and got the manager coaght up on her part as well! aaaarrrrrggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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moms .. MAY I ASK gently..

for you moms who may say you have not had a period for some years, nursing and  having several little ones to run after.. would I be wrong thinking that maybe the body needs some rest.. getting regular periods for a while?? allowing you to gain your own nutrients back and nourishing YOUR body?

I have a concern.. small .. but is not the first child getting all the fresh nutrients better of then the last one getting what is left over??

I am not against nursing, but mentioned that some use nursing as  pregnancy control .. is there not something a little out of (my non favorite word) balance??

Is there not a requirement to have a year in between to regain strength.. ?  I am just asking ..


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Quoted from Goldie
moms .. MAY I ASK gently..

for you moms who may say you have not had a period for some years, nursing and  having several little ones to run after.. would I be wrong thinking that maybe the body needs some rest.. getting regular periods for a while?? allowing you to gain your own nutrients back and nourishing YOUR body?

Yes, it's important to supplement your own body to replenish it.  The baby will take what it needs from the mother.  Lactating mothers are instructed to eat well and continue to take prenatal vitamins (which I can't take because they make me throw up).


I have a concern.. small .. but is not the first child getting all the fresh nutrients better of then the last one getting what is left over??

One might think so, but in my experience and looking at other families, it's often the last baby who outgrows everybody else!  Can anybody else say that's what they've seen?  I know more about nutrition now than I did when I had my first.  I think that's often the case.

I am not against nursing, but mentioned that some use nursing as  pregnancy control .. is there not something a little out of (my non favorite word) balance??

Nursing isn't used as pregnancy control.  Just because you're nursing doesn't mean you can't get pregnant.  Some women breastfeed exclusively and start their cycles back very quickly.  It just so happens that MINE don't start back until the baby's nearly a year and a half old.  I don't see how this is out of balance.  It's just the way different people's bodies work.

Is there not a requirement to have a year in between to regain strength.. ?  I am just asking ..

Requirement?  Who's gonna require it?  I have heard it said (though I don't necessarily believe it's true) that if your cycles start back, it's your body's way of indicating that it's ready for another baby.  Unfortunately our culture and family structure doesn't support large families because we don't have help.  It's all the mommy doing all the work.



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Quoted from Ribbit
I was asked by a friend not too long ago, "Why do you think all this is happening to you even though you're on a good diet?"  I almost burst into tears, then I realized, "Wait.  It doesn't mean I'm gonna live forever!  It just improves the quality of life!"

Just imagine where you would be without the great lifestyle plan that you have been following...  
I have to keep reminding everyone around me that it was this plan that allowed me to start healing.  Everything else I had done could, at best, slow the degrading process, but nothing had ever worked to stop or reverse the degradation until this.


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Sure is.  I hate it that my health can't be a selling point!

Keep working with it...  The body is probably working to complete the healing process...  Just wait until it happens - then it will be a wonderful billboard...


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