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Sharon
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Andrea, I figured the sardines out after I read LRFYT because it said that beneficials act as medicine. So I started eating all the beneficials for AB's until I found the right "medicine" for my brain. I saw that sardines were beneficial and then I read different things about sardines on the internet (purines, polyamines, etc.). I realized that whenever I ate the sardines, I felt a little better so I started eating them all the time and experimented with going off of them as a reference point. Schizophrenia, Depression, Manic-Depression, and Alzheimer's runs in my family so I'm always alert when I read about possible remedies. I read on Dr. D's blog that schizophrenics don't do well with wheat. I also read somewhere that some scizophrenics have a huge need for a certain vitamin and one man was healed if he ate a pound of spinach/day. That made me think that some people can't make certain vitamins that are necessary and can only get i from food or a good supplement.. My need comes form sardines but others might come from spinach, or who knows what else.

Ribbit, I order a bulk case of Crowne Prince sardines from Amazon.
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A pound of spinach?  I could do that.  When I make a salad, I make a salad!

A friend offered to watch the children while I go grocery shopping, so I'm going to take them up on it.  I have enough trouble focusing in stores anyway, even without the children there.  DH said they deliberately make malls and grocery stores over-stimulating so you won't pay attention as you load up your cart.  It's not that the children misbehave, it's just that they talk, and when they talk, I can't think.

I need this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886941599/addconsults

This lady knows how it goes.     I joined her forums, but I don't have time to post much.  I just read what everybody else writes.


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Ah that is why you told Shelly to eat sardines


MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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I've known some crazy people to rant coherently.   Hitler, as I recall, was quite the orator. Sometimes you have to be around a person many years before you realize something's wrong.  




As far as you being off your rocker and stating how crazy people can rant coherently...yeah, I hear you there however...PEOPLE LIKE HITLER WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE US THEY WERE SANE AND THE REST OF US WERE NUTS.  YOU on the other hand are trying to convince US you may be not so right in the head.  Take some comfort in that.  Personally, I think you are suffering from MAJOR exhaustion.  That's just my opinion and certainly does not mean it is true nor does it dismiss your discomfort and pain.  I will say a little prayer that you find some relief in a good way.  For the record, what you must have to handle in a day makes me exhausted just thinking about it.  Don't discount all that you do.

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Personally, I think you are suffering from MAJOR exhaustion.


Then I have been exhausted since I was about 6.

Thank you for your sweet words though.  Good point about Hitler--you are right.  (I wasn't comparing myself with Hitler, I was just pointing out that some people who are off their rockers can still appear on their rockers.)


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MAJOR exhaustion. Ditto also for me, please have any help you can afford, this is sane for you and your family. The genetical heritage and the diagnoses should not give you as I read  betweeen  the lines and connect the dots all these problems and should not define your smart and beautiful personality. Your routine tasks can be overwhelming and you have a six month child to care together with the others three. Please take care for you and it will bless all your family.
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Thank you, MG.

Arlene, check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

People who have misophonia are most commonly annoyed, or even enraged, by the sound of other people eating or breathing. Oddly, they are not normally annoyed by sounds that they themselves make. Reactions to these sounds are not limited however to just loud eating noises, people with Misophonia find themselves affected by all kinds of noises.

Often, people who have misophonia are also annoyed by other people's repetitive movements, such as leg-tapping, nail-biting and typing.

Sensitivity to these sounds tends to be exacerbated by stress or feeling tired/run down.


Sounds like your father???  Sounds like me too, except I don't get angry, I just want to run away.  Fight or flight.  Your dad had the "fight" and I have the "flight".


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Ribbit I sent you a private message.. no need to read it.. just my ramblings.. and not well put together.. sorry..

at least here we can erase a message but private messages I dont know how to erase..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Quoted from Ribbit
Thank you, MG.

Arlene, check this out:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misophonia

People who have misophonia are most commonly annoyed, or even enraged, by the sound of other people eating or breathing. Oddly, they are not normally annoyed by sounds that they themselves make. Reactions to these sounds are not limited however to just loud eating noises, people with Misophonia find themselves affected by all kinds of noises.

Often, people who have misophonia are also annoyed by other people's repetitive movements, such as leg-tapping, nail-biting and typing.

Sensitivity to these sounds tends to be exacerbated by stress or feeling tired/run down.


Sounds like your father???  Sounds like me too, except I don't get angry, I just want to run away.  Fight or flight.  Your dad had the "fight" and I have the "flight".


Oh WOW, misophonia...never heard of it before but I was sitting in the movie theater one night,
calmly chewing on popcorn when some lady sitting in the seat in front of me turned around
and screamed in my face "can't you shut up.....all that CHEWING and CHEWING". She was irate...
irrationally so...and I suspect she was suffering from misophonia.



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Wow, Chloe.  That must have been startling.  Sorry, it made me laugh to imagine her saying, "CHEWING and CHEWING."   

I am happy to report that chewing does not bother me.  

Based on some of the pm's I've gotten, mostly from people who don't know me well, I feel the need to write an explanation.  I know y'all are tying to help, but let me say this:  I am not negligent of my children.  I do not sit in my room all day while they watch tv.  We don't even own a tv.  I spend more time with my children than working parents who have their children in school/daycare all day.  My children are smart and they learn quickly.  They haven't inherited any of my issues, or at least I can't see any yet. (My son got a little perhaps, but it may just be that he's a boy and he processes things differently.  That's what DH thinks anyway.)  We don't eat fast food when I've had a long day.  I cook everything that goes in their mouths except rice cakes.  And nuts.  And dried fruit.  And fresh fruit.  You get the picture.  There is no need to worry about the health and well-being of anybody except perhaps me.  They are okay.  They are very happy and social and while I might say "They deserve better than me," that's the depression talking.  Everybody I know says I'm a good mother (even if on the scattered side).  So please don't call Child Protective Services.  Just because my ears hurt doesn't mean I'm neglecting them or that I need to stick them somewhere away from me.  Perhaps this board was the wrong place to dump.  Again, I know everybody's trying to help, but really I need advice like: Take vitamin C and eat sardines.

Okay, I'm done with the self-defense.


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You are an amazing person and your intelligence and self-awareness are your greatest assets to fight your problems, like you have done all your life.

Ever pat yourself on the back for surviving so much.  You're a survivor!    What a big job you are doing with four kids and that is amazing as well!  You certainly help alot of people as well with your writing on the internet.
I hope you can get some practical help.  Is there anyone in the community or family that can help take some of your load?  Maybe one day where someone minds the kids?

Wondering if you have sinusitis?  I also get headaches that start with enlarged lymph nodes at the back of the neck on the right side normally first, usually it's sinusitis - so I wonder if you get that.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusitis  Reading that I'm surprised to see they say 90% of sinus headaches are actually migraines.  I get those too, especially once a month, but sinusitis can linger a long time and cause headaches, malaise and feeling off and can be confused with headaches every day.  I massage the lumps and rub down and it helps alot.

I wonder if you have it since it's common in adrenal fatigued people (which can lower your immune system) as I am too.  Also the possible mould problem in your house could have triggered it and you being asthmatic, they are linked.

Inhaling tea tree oil in a bowl of boiling water with a towel over the top has helped me so much. It clears the sinuses and I believe it's antibacterial / antifungal so it clears up the infection too.  Years ago I was getting script after script of antibiotics for it when we lived in a tropical environment.  If you have it Dr D will have many other cures I'm sure.

Hyperacusis seems to be inflammation based.  So maybe more omega 3s (like everyone's saying sardines!) would help.  All good for bubs development too.  http://www.babiesonline.com/articles/baby/breastfeeding/omega3fattyacids.asp  I second the ear plug idea and use one myself most of the time, no shame!

I hope you are getting enough calcium too?  Breastfeeding will take it out of you.  When I breastfed for 3 years I took large breastfeeding multivitamins and still felt quite fatigued.  If you can take a rest, and you'd still be doing something - making milk!  I read somewhere that breastfeeding and being pregnant are produces the biggest vitamin and minerals drain, so your body needs more than you ever did in your life.

The info about misophonia and sensory defensiveness is really interesting!  People with adrenal fatigue will often overreact to things with adrenalin because they cannot make a quick burst of cortisol so I wonder if that's part of it?  Don't scare me cos I'll scare you back worse with my screaming!  

What adrenal supplements were you taking?
Vitamin C, Vitamin B and licorice root tea are helping me a lot at the moment and having small frequent meals.
Hope you feel better soon!  This time will pass.


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I might be a survivor, but I don't feel like the fittest right now!   Thank you for your sweet words, Symbi.  I feel so much better when we're outside!  Yesterday we spent 4 1/2 hours outside and today it was nearly the same.  The sound goes out instead of toward me, and it makes all the difference in the world.  They can even all be talking at the same time and I don't have any trouble processing what they're all saying.

I believe my sinuses might be a problem.  In my exercises I'm supposed to breathe in deeply through my nose and out through pursed lips, and I have trouble breathing in through my nose.  I can do it, but I feel like I can't get breath fast enough.

It has occurred to me a few times over the last couple of years if maybe my brain isn't getting enough oxygen.  The other day, I'm ashamed to say, I was writing the date and I wrote 199..    20.. and had to sit there and think about it!  Having no sense of time passing makes it difficult.

We used to live in Miami and my body was very happy there.  It was a little on the hot side in the summer, sure, but I was very healthy.  No environmental allergies except my nose ran when the mango trees bloomed.  I never got sick except when I was pregnant (and then, as usual, I stayed sick) except when we'd come back up "north" to visit.  The right side of my nose is fine.  The left side is usually a little stopped up.  Oh.  Huh.  Everything's on the left side.  Interesting.  That's where my nosebleeds come from too--the left side.  


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Based on some of the pm's I've gotten, mostly from people who don't know me well, I feel the need to write an explanation.  I know y'all are tying to help, but let me say this:  I am not negligent of my children.  I do not sit in my room all day while they watch tv.  We don't even own a tv.  I spend more time with my children than working parents who have their children in school/daycare all day.  My children are smart and they learn quickly.  They haven't inherited any of my issues, or at least I can't see any yet. (My son got a little perhaps, but it may just be that he's a boy and he processes things differently.  That's what DH thinks anyway.)  We don't eat fast food when I've had a long day.  I cook everything that goes in their mouths except rice cakes.  And nuts.  And dried fruit.  And fresh fruit.  You get the picture.  There is no need to worry about the health and well-being of anybody except perhaps me.  They are okay.  They are very happy and social and while I might say "They deserve better than me," that's the depression talking.  Everybody I know says I'm a good mother (even if on the scattered side).  So please don't call Child Protective Services.  Just because my ears hurt doesn't mean I'm neglecting them or that I need to stick them somewhere away from me.  Perhaps this board was the wrong place to dump.  Again, I know everybody's trying to help, but really I need advice like: Take vitamin C and eat sardines.
Wow, there seem to be some overreactions there from some other people??!! you are doing an amazing job homeschooling 4 kids & coping with that & being sick & all...
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Glad to be someone who knows you!

I am the opposite but similar!  I have problems all on the right side, hyperacusis after blown eardrum after bad ear infection.  Then had perforated eardrum for many years chronic ear infections.  Sinus headaches always on the RHS and the back of the neck.  Get migraines starting there.  Oral lichen planus in mouth is more eroded and painful on RHS.  Generally though feel stronger, better circulation but therefore feel more pain on the RHS.
I'm really asymmetrical and I know the RHS seems larger.  Have combination fingerprints on the left hand side ring and middle fingers.

I'm right handed, I can't remember are you left handed?

Wonder if the left is your dominant nostril?  People switch the main nostril they breath out of every few hours.  But apparently one nostril is normally dominant.  Here's an interesting swara yoga article, very interesting theories!  http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/swara_yoga.htm

Interesting hey!

BTW When we lived in the tropics I also used to smoke and had a perforated eardrum that always got infected, you guessed it on the right side!  hear the destiny music, Beethoven Symphony No. 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcR1ZS2hVo
(Bdun dun dun duuuuun. . . dun dun dun duuuuun)


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Oh yeah about the tropics - sinuses need humidity or they dry out and that's normally where you get trouble.  They actually add humidity and warmth to the air you breath.  There are theories that the rise in asthma is because of people breathing through the mouth so the straight air goes into the lungs.

So living in the humidity is good for the sinuses!  Just about every time I go into airconditioning I get a sinus headache !


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teeth on forks, clicking pens, high pitch noises, a tv not off and still ...buzzing. i hear every thing, i hear it all the time to the point were i can't understand the words coming from the mouth talking to me. i have become pretty good at reading lips not becuse i can't hear but becuse i hear every thing all at once! i leave the music on to dround it out so i can sleep.
crazzy? no that sounded saine to me. perfectly thought out and decribed. of course i am a person who is totaly emotonaly cut off and who exspesses themself best when depressed. crazzy is not talking to the car it is exspecting the car to talk back in a normal conversation. good thing or i would ocupy the room on the other side of the assylum.
sounds like time for r and r and a baby sitter for a few days. or better yet a week just by yourself. no one you know and no one demanding anything from you. you sound over whelmed and the rest is just your body yelling that it is being over taxed. granted you over did it with the boxes. for my family if you hurt something it is a long time catching up becuse we have some inbuilt resistance to pain. a sort of "i don't have time for pain" that pushes it to the back of the mind. what ever hurts most might be noticed but every thing else gets voided by the brain untill the priority is fixed and then the next one ques up for attention. for you it sounds like they are all coming at you like a mob and every other "good citazen" with even a minor complaint is looking for rocks to throw. time to hit the reset button. if i knew of one of those vote for the person who most needs a vaction i would call in a million votes for ya.


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Er um...after what you shared about what you've been through I can believe you've been exhausted since 6!  How do I know?  Well...I have been exhausted since 5 due to family issues.  Ribbit...I really don't think you give yourself enough credit.  I have felt just like you.  Really I have but maybe for different reasons.  I tried every antidepressant known.  I was 32 once wondering if I felt this bad now what will 50 feel like.  Big hug.
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Feeding you gut properly will work on quieting your ear nerves.  Your left vagus nerve is acting up.

Quoted from Dr. Tomatis
The vagus nerve - the nerve of the vagrant soul.
The brain monitors the gut through the left vagus, but that pathway is not acting normally for you now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

Print out Dr. D' Adamo's recommendations.  Multiple copies.  Paste one on a wall at eye level in an out-of-the-way place where you will be forced to read it everyday.

You are not crazy, and yes families "inherit" the same kind of problems.  The more you talk about yours, the more it sounds like mine.  Even the closed religious group background is something that I "inherit" issues from.

Try to get some Gregorian chant to listen to - unwind that there vagus nerve.  There is even a version of the "Highway Code" - if you prefer your music to not have any particular religious message.  It is a sung version of the old UK traffic regulations (pre EU) sung in chant.  Beautiful.  Silly.  Will help you de-stress, while you listen to English choristers enunciate the rules of conduct at a "level crossing."



Your combined pathologies make tons of sense to me.  I know that this is little help, but eating and treating as Dr. D' Adamo recommends is your best way to tackle the load!


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Aww, hugs. I'm the same way with "little kid noises" because of damage to my left ear- high pitched noises are downright painful.

Things have gotten a lot easier as my kids got bigger- their voices aren't as high-pitched anymore, and they've learned to be quiet when I need them to be. Plenty of times, I give my son the choice between playing quietly indoors or being rambunctious outside. I couldn't do that when he was 2, but at age 8 he can safely play outside unsupervised.

Probably the only way they were really affected by my noise sensitivity was regarding noisy electronic toys. I could not allow  them in my house, period. I turned into a yelling monster when those things were around. I hurt the feelings of some adult gift-givers on occasion, but my kids weren't damaged by not having noisy baby toys.


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Ribbit,
I hope you know how much we all appreciate all that you are.  I think you are wonderful giving human being that is just exhausted from the 24/7 responsibilities that you have. Taking care of 4 young children and home schooling them plus cooking, cleaning, etc.  It makes me tired just hearing about all that you have to do.
Hope some of the suggestions here are in some way helpful to you.  I said it before but I just want to give you a big hug.
Jane
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This is so funny.. last night after I sat quetley I said to my self.. I wonder IF WHEN I UNLOAD .. I really want as much advise as we all heaped on you..

Then also I wondered if it could not just be a post where one can unload without anyone replying.. or just with a smiley or two..

finally what got me was the WAY we all seem to be hollering about 4 children .. one could think no one ever had 4 kids.. little goats,, little souls.. after all -the Boomers all had grown up having 4 kids, why then do we all jump up and down.. all I could figure is that we admire stay at home and homeschooling moms because we would be afraid to try it..

then again..  in the end I had taken on 4 teens. Put their mom in rehab.. got them through college and made good people out of them.. I was way too old.. and I was exhausted.. but I was also sick for years before BTD and then took care of mom for years.. i know what exhaustion felt like.. the last thing I wanted was advise..I just wish I did not have to spend my fathers inheritansc and my moms and my grandparents inheritances to pay for it all.. but by now what would I have done with all that money???   

so here is a message and IT IS NOT telling you to do anything.. just unload .. I just did and the last thing I want is to get any advise.. just let me be.. I will manage .. with BTD and this board.. ahh I feel better already..    and contrary to what we all sound like .. no one here suggests to call child welfare,, maybe MOMS welfare would be better.. amybe we need to start a club for moms to get a break from life as we experience it.. what would we call it?? .. STOP THE WORLD I WANT TO GET OFF was a show long ago.. now I know what that show was showing me then 40 years ago,, did not understand it then..  

  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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The right side of my nose is fine.  The left side is usually a little stopped up.  Oh.  Huh.  Everything's on the left side.  Interesting.  That's where my nosebleeds come from too--the left side.  

The left side is what stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system, right?  Do you have a deviated septum?  Maybe those breathe-right strips will help, at least at night (which is probably the most important time).  I tried them recently and was quite satisfied with the result!

I will second the idea that mold could be contributing to your problem.  You know what it does to me...   Especially if you live near a creek.  The mold doesn't have to be growing inside the house to affect you.

A few months ago I was seriously wondering if I had sensory integration disorder.  I certainly don't, but I was so fatigued and under such constant stress that I was experiencing the symptoms.  I won't say that rest will cure everything, but good rest is what helps more than anything to recover from a long bout of chronic stress, so it should help you cope.  I cope with everything better when well-rested.  Yesterday at work, someone dropped a pallet on the floor (one of my worst noises at work), and it didn't even startle me!

About caffeine: I know the coffee and green tea help you to keep going, but caffeine is a serious drain on your adrenals.  Stimulants enable you to force yourself to keep going when you need rest, and to make matters worse, when you finally do take some rest, it isn't very effective because the stimulant is still keeping you "keyed up" to a degree.  Is there any way your DH could take some time off from work to give you a couple weeks of rest from full-time mommy duty?

Regarding back pain: I recently learned, by accident (yes, a benefit from yoga!) that stretching the muscles at the front of my hip joint (the hip flexor) relieved my back pain.  I tried the same thing with my wrist, stretching the opposite side from the pain, and it helped there, too.  If you haven't been stretching your low back and hamstring, I'd do that too, along with hamstring and hip abductors.

Above all else, just remember that these trials are not because of weak character or spirit.  This is about your body's inability to successfully cope with the stress you're under.  Stress is a physiological problem, way more than it is a psychological problem.  Just look at people like us compared to some of the war veterans you may know.  We crack up from the normal stress of daily living, but (some of) those guys endured horrors beyond imagining and came through ok, and lived perfectly normal lives thereafter.  Some people are just biological capable of handling stress, and some (of us) aren't!
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The left side is what stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system, right?  Do you have a deviated septum?  Maybe those breathe-right strips will help, at least at night (which is probably the most important time).  I tried them recently and was quite satisfied with the result!


for me the strips are too scratchy and too pulling on my facial skin..

I use Wendys straws..the biggest ones and I cut them into half inch on the diagonal ..then i use them in my nose.. the reason I need them is not only to open the passage ways.. but I like to sleep on the side.. whichever side it is the other side drains down into it and then I can not breath because the nostril on the top gets so relaxed that it falls onto the other as it does not seem to know better.. also when I breath in heavy both nostrils close.. some sort of reactionary defect.. the straws help a lot..otherwise I have to wake up every 45 minutes and turn around..gets tiresome..and never any restful sleep..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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