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Well, I buy 2 dozen eggs each week.  

Of course, I do use some in cooking and my son eats eggs when he is with me. But I would say I 'eat' about 15 eggs per week. At least.



You sound like my type B daughter!  She makes her ground chia seed bars and breaks a dozen eggs into the bowl!  She used to put away the batch in two days;  at least now, they're lasting her 4 or 5 days.  



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so skinnies.. that is what the diet is all about INDIVIDUALISM
Exactly!  And even more, it's about health.  We look at weight because it has something to say about how healthy we are.  But it's too easy to just focus on fixing the weight problem, when that is just a symptom.  In my case, the symptom of not eating enough!
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TJ - ah, yes, "The Ice[cream]man Cometh!!"   Only a B could get away with it!
Oh, yeah.  But I'd still love to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, all you As.
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Just saw this thread.  Way to go, TJ!  I'm glad you figured out what might be the answer.  I hope the sugar in the delicious-looking Breyer's doesn't throw you for a loop.  But......Strawberry?  Really?  Not mint chocolate chip?  Or vanilla?  You know....the vanilla with little black specks in it.


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Good luck TJ! Hope  you gain some pounds. I am still struggling with that, over 5'7 and down to 110 pounds. I think I eat a lot of food. Ah yes, I remember ice cream! Just a dream now.
When you are eating healthy food, 2,000 calories is not so easy to take in daily.

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Yeah I have looked in to it vaguely. I read the book, but was not quite able to come out with a determination. You know I do so well off of meat and vegetables, that I suppose I just felt comfortable here


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Quoted from Ribbit
But......Strawberry?  Really?  Not mint chocolate chip?  Or vanilla?  You know....the vanilla with little black specks in it.
Mint choc chip is my very favorite!  But it's a lot of other people's favorite, too, since it was sold completely out.
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When you are eating healthy food, 2,000 calories is not so easy to take in daily.
Ain't that the truth.  Maybe I'll start buying that cheap 73/27 ground beef and not draining...ugh, that almost turns my stomach to think about!
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Yeah I have looked in to it vaguely. I read the book, but was not quite able to come out with a determination. You know I do so well off of meat and vegetables, that I suppose I just felt comfortable here
GTD was tricky for me, too.  At first I thought I was a Nomad, but some of the superfoods weren't super for me because I'm a nonnie.  Then I thought Gatherer b/c of different finger lengths on each hand, but the Gatherer diet was NOT what my body wanted.  I went back to the BTD until I got the GTD SWAMIXpress a couple months ago.
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Yeah I have looked in to it vaguely. I read the book, but was not quite able to come out with a determination. You know I do so well off of meat and vegetables, that I suppose I just felt comfortable here
You are most likely a Hunter or possibly a Gatherer.  No need read more when you know you have good health.

"If ain't broken, don't fix it!"    

TJ, your digestive absorption capability still needs repair.  Slippery elm has worked for me in the past, and is not expensive.  What are you using?


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TJ, your digestive absorption capability still needs repair.  Slippery elm has worked for me in the past, and is not expensive.  What are you using?
How can I know if it still needs to be repaired?  I went (mostly) gluten-free in summer 2008, then toward the end of that year (when I tried the Gatherer diet) I started eating a little gluten again (barley) for about two months.  Since that, I've gone back off gluten again, except for the occasional bowl of oatmeal, and a small piece of sacramental bread on Sunday.  I think I've had plenty of time to heal, and that my metabolism is the biggest culprit now.
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I've made a little headway.  I think I've gained about 2 pounds.  Not much, but it's a start.  I did have a setback, though.  I did a fast with my church on Sunday, and I should have ended it sooner.  Sunday night I couldn't sleep, and by Monday morning I had a migraine.  I don't know if it was the fasting, the sugar, or the raw egg in the mayo, or some combination thereof, but I'm betting on the egg.  So Monday wasn't a good day.  Tuesday was a bit better.  I had dinner at a friend's house, and dared to eat some french fries (I've been wanting to eat some potatoes again just to see what happened).  I got a headache and I've been feeling off again today.  I think I'm done with experimenting for now!   Time to take a break from eggs again, but fortunately, the sugar doesn't seem to trouble me in the small amounts I've been using it.  The next time I try eggs, I'm going to see if I do ok on just yolks.  I suspect that the whites are my culprit.
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French fries=bad news for DH when they're cooked in soybean or peanut oil.  You never know what's used unless you ask.


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They were baked.  I can only imagine if they hadn't been...maybe another migraine instead of just a simple headache.
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Quoted from kauaian


Should'nt eat a meal @ least 3 hours b4 bed.


Why? I keep hearing that, but that's when I eat best.  And I'm super skinny.  So if there is another reason, healthwise, I'd like to hear it.  Or maybe that is just true for some people and not others.


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Potatoes are no good for me.  They don't move.  And sweet potatoes make my stomach all messed up.

A couple of years ago, when I was getting skinny from having stomach problems, my son and I would eat a huge bowl of ice cream every night, with peanut butter, all this other stuff.  It was soooo good.  But my cholesterol went through the roof.  And shortly thereafter I learned about yeast.

This has been a very interesting thread.  I've learned some things by listening to some of you as I have the same problem as TJ.  First off, I'm not as skinny as a couple of you, which makes me feel better.  Secondly, I probably am worrying too much about the recommended amounts on the diets also.  I also always have cholesterol on the back of my mind, but I'm not really sure which things make cholesterol go up.  I know ice cream does.  hehehehehe  I need to learn to add a few things here and there.  I can't overeat at one meal and stuff myself though.  I feel terrible and am no good for nothing.  So I need to learn to stretch this out, or add here and there.

I'm 5'7-1/2" and just weighed 126.5 on the scale with my jammies and slippers on.  What you up to now TJ?

It's good to see you back.  I have another thought for you.  From what I understand, it can take years to get the delicate balance back in your gut.  I know mine isn't back to what it should be and I've been working on this for over 2 years.  Pretty strictly. So.........  It may be a contributing factor for us.


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Why? I keep hearing to eat at least 3 hrs. pre-bedtime, but that's when I eat best.  And I'm super skinny.  So if there is another reason, healthwise, I'd like to hear it.  Or maybe that is just true for some people and not others.

Dr. D talks about, #3 on page 182 of "The Genotype Diet", eating the MAIN meal after 7PM causing weight gain in test subjects, where people who ate their main meal earlier did not gain weight.  My assumption is that they used same foods, but shifted when they ate them...  If this is the case, there is a change in the way the body deals with calories eaten later in the day that is less healthy, ie. causes more of it to be stored as fat, rather than utilizing it efficiently...  

If you are skinny, maybe that is what your body's norm is and added weight will be unhealthy for you.  For me, that is the case.  I look exactly like my uncle, so much so that my WW mistook a picture of him for me.  We are very thin - kind of like gluing 5 sticks together to make me ~6ft. tall and ~155 lbs.  Some people thought I looked better when I was at 195, but that was when I was the most unhealthy that I have ever been...


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Well Joe, maybe that's my problem.  Just acceptance.  It just scares me sometimes. Especially when I'm still losing a little and I'm at the bottom of the BMI chart like TJ. But maybe it's just sort of a normal fluctuation.  My Mom says I have an Uncle that was always real thin also.  

I don't know. I have been feeling better lately, and maybe I should just quit worrying about it.  I don't really know if I'm doing it all correctly though.  I don't think I get enough calories because my stomach doesn't let me eat as much as I'd like to all the time.  

Do you drink lots of water too?  

I would love to see pictures of you all who are skinny!!!!  Who's up to posting their picture?  


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I also always have cholesterol on the back of my mind, but I'm not really sure which things make cholesterol go up.  I know ice cream does.
Doesn't inflammation cause an increase in cholesterol production?

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I'm 5'7-1/2" and just weighed 126.5 on the scale with my jammies and slippers on.  What you up to now TJ?
See your thread!
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Scratch that.  Someone may come along later and want to know what happened, so I'm editing to add what I said there:
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TJ, what are you up to weight now?
Funny you should ask...   I had some bad fish yesterday and got food poisoning.  I spent most of last night with everything in my digestive system running for the nearest exit and probably lost everything I had gained and then some.  I don't have a scale at my house so I can't be sure until I go back to the gym.

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So I just got off the phone with mom and told her about this last miserable 24 hours.  She said there's been a stomach virus going around, so maybe it had nothing to do with the fish.

Then again, maybe the sugar and potatoes and tara gum (from the Breyer's ice cream) and chocolate (which is neutral but I just started eating again) were all just too much, and my guts decided to reboot and start from scratch.
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If eating after 7 pm causes weight gain, pick your favorite snack (nuts/dried fruit/yogurt for me) and chow down at 8 pm!

TJ, many of my FB friends have a rather violent stomach virus right now.

JJ, have you done a parasite cleanse lately?  Just in case?


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TJ, I hope you get feeling better.  Getting a flu bug will kill the gaining weight thing real quick.  hehehehhee.  I'm skeptical of the ice cream and treats helping you much, but hey, it will taste good while you're trying!!!!!!!  I'm not that brave.

ribbit, I eat probably 1/4 or more of my calories after seven.  In fact sometimes dinner isn't until then, and then there's my after dinner grain.  I don't even get started eating until night time, and that's the way my system works best.  That's why I don't relate to that don't eat after seven stuff.  My body is like don't eat before 9 am.  Water, yeah, good, but not food.

I take a supplement called proto cleanz and at one time took a bunch of it and got die off.  I think it mainly killed yeast.  I'm not quite sure which system you had in mind.  I've seen products and claims and all that, but my doctor has me taking what he has me taken and I've got a lot better.  That said, I'm all ears as to what you got.  They did tell me on the phone the other day they want to try some new tricks up their sleeves to kill bacteria in the guts.  One is Manuka Honey and the other was called BioFilms, which I guess is some kind of regiment you do.  If I test out on them I'll be doing something new.


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maybe the sugar and potatoes and tara gum (from the Breyer's ice cream) and chocolate (which is neutral but I just started eating again) were all just too much...
...and the eggs too, forgot about them!
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TJ, many of my FB friends have a rather violent stomach virus right now.
Hmmm, more evidence.
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JJ, have you done a parasite cleanse lately?  Just in case?
To whom was this directed?
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I eat probably 1/4 or more of my calories after seven.  In fact sometimes dinner isn't until then, and then there's my after dinner grain.  I don't even get started eating until night time, and that's the way my system works best.  That's why I don't relate to that don't eat after seven stuff.  My body is like don't eat before 9 am.  Water, yeah, good, but not food.
Good for you.  I have been good at eating plenty for breakfast and lunch but not for dinner.  I think this is a big point for me.
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I just figured out my total calories for today and it came to 1971.  I ate a little more nuts than I usually do.  And I was wrong about how many calories I get after 7 PM.  It's more like 2/3rds of my calories come after 7pm.  Interesting, eh?


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That's more than interesting, that's slightly disturbing.  You really need to eat more during the day!
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My body just doesn't want to digest during the day like it does later.  I don't know why.  But dinner and the grain after dinner are my biggest times for eating.  If I try to do that during the day, which I do sometimes, I feel terrible.


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The stomach bug seems to have passed now, and I'm trying to get back into the habit of eating plenty again.  I have mainly increased my intake of fat to increase my calorie consumption, but I was reading here, and have had some second thoughts.  I was reminded that we nonnies have less IAP to work with (about 20% of what our secretor peers have).  We need IAP to digest fat, and the less of it we have, the less fat we can break down and absorb.  When you eat more fat than you can absorb, it makes your poo float if I recall correctly, and mine has been doing that, so I think I'm eating about as much fat as I can utilize.

I wish my protein sources weren't so expensive.  It sure ain't cheap bein' a nonnie!
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