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kayzee
Thursday, December 24, 2009, 2:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I posted about this over in the GTD forum.

I'm fairly new to BTD/GTD, and still anxiously awaiting my secretor test. Based on what I've read, though, I'm about 95% sure I'm a nonnie, so I'm just going to operate under that assumption until I find out for sure!

I recently had an IgG test for food sensitivities (i.e., "chronic" allergies, or foods that can cause a reaction over time, as opposed to an IgE test that checks for "acute" allergies that'd cause an immediate reaction). I tested positive for something like 40/98 foods, including iceberg lettuce. My naturopath pointed to that as an indicator of my generally insanely inflamed state, since there's nothing IN iceberg lettuce but water and green.  

The big issues were dairy, mold, some spices, a few random veggies (!), etc etc. I'm just wondering if any other nonnies out there have had similar experiences?

A lot of the things I responded to are "avoids" for A-non, anyway, so I think it was just my body begging for me to try this diet.
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Andrea AWsec
Thursday, December 24, 2009, 3:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Kayzee, I am confused by your Avatar.. As an A you can't be a Gatherer.. so if you are following that diet .
You probably would benefit from doing the SWAMI. At 26 years old you will heal quickly and avoid quite a bit of future problems with your health.


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C_Sharp
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I will point out that although it appears as if there is not much to Iceberg lettuce, it is rated considerably differently for warriors(superfood) and teachers (avoid).  Something must be in it.


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Your gut will heal as you adhere to the diet.  Eventually you will be able to put more things back into your meals that are not on your avoid list but are causing you issues now.  You might want to consider doing the Swami.


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Sharon004
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Quoted from kayzee
I recently had an IgG test for food sensitivities (i.e., "chronic" allergies, or foods that can cause a reaction over time, as opposed to an IgE test that checks for "acute" allergies that'd cause an immediate reaction). I tested positive for something like 40/98 foods, including iceberg lettuce. My naturopath pointed to that as an indicator of my generally insanely inflamed state, since there's nothing IN iceberg lettuce but water and green.  

The big issues were dairy, mold, some spices, a few random veggies (!), etc etc. I'm just wondering if any other nonnies out there have had similar experiences?

I'm not sure about the IgG vs IgE test, but I have had lots of allergy tests, and iceberg lettuce has come up as an allergy quite often for me.   I think I end up being allergic to whatever I'm eating a lot of at the time.  Once I was only eating salads and chicken, had a blood test for allergies, and found I was allergic to all my salad ingredients and chicken.  No wonder I felt awful, though I thought I was eating so good.

I think I have an insanely inflamed state as well, as I know I tested pretty high on a systemic inflamation blood test (CD4??? Something like that).  I think this kind of thing is very common in nonnies.

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Sharon
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I will point out that although it appears as if there is not much to Iceberg lettuce, it is rated considerably differently for warriors(superfood) and teachers (avoid).  Something must be in it.



Here is an article from the NY Times about vegetables and their 'desire" to live.  This might help to explain why some people are even allergic to lettuce.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/science/22angi.html
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Quoted from Sharon004

I'm not sure about the IgG vs IgE test, but I have had lots of allergy tests, and iceberg lettuce has come up as an allergy quite often for me.   I think I end up being allergic to whatever I'm eating a lot of at the time.  Once I was only eating salads and chicken, had a blood test for allergies, and found I was allergic to all my salad ingredients and chicken.  No wonder I felt awful, though I thought I was eating so good.

I think I have an insanely inflamed state as well, as I know I tested pretty high on a systemic inflamation blood test (CD4??? Something like that).  I think this kind of thing is very common in nonnies.

Interesting I sure can relate to this!! Lately I am refocussing on trying to heal my liver & that sure seems to help my reactions heaps - since 80% of your imune system is in your gut
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My husband and oldest daughter had the ELISA test done (IgG).  We found the B/GTD to be more reliable.  The only thing the test helped us peg was a honey allergy with my daughter.  She was about 3 at the time.  Honey rated as off the top of the chart.  When we removed honey from her diet, her red blotchy eye circles went away.  We reintroduced honey when we put her on the Explorer diet and she's now able to eat it without trouble.

The GTD heals.  I would follow it before I'd follow any blood allergy test.  If you're still having trouble with some unknown food after being very compliant for about 6 months, then I might go do it.....


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My husband and oldest daughter had the ELISA test done (IgG).  We found the B/GTD to be more reliable.  The only thing the test helped us peg was a honey allergy with my daughter.  She was about 3 at the time.  Honey rated as off the top of the chart.  When we removed honey from her diet, her red blotchy eye circles went away.  We reintroduced honey when we put her on the Explorer diet and she's now able to eat it without trouble.

The GTD heals.  I would follow it before I'd follow any blood allergy test.  If you're still having trouble with some unknown food after being very compliant for about 6 months, then I might go do it.....



I agree! After following the GTD/BTD/Swami my food allergies have cleared. My over reactive immune responses are very rare since learning and following this diet.
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kayzee
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Thanks so much for the advice!  I've been doing BTD; I was going to give it a few more weeks before giving GTD a try, but I think I'll make the switch now instead of waiting.

The holidays are always a little tight, but I'm going to start saving up for SWAMI with my next paycheck. Information is power.....

(I'm new to the board and, for whatever reason, I was having huge brain fog when setting up my avatar. I think I sorted it out piece by piece in that other thread, Andrea, but it should be accurate now, and I'm sorry about the confusion.)
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Plucky
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Kayzee, you might want to hang onto those IgG results.  I've found there are a few things that are supposed to be beneficials for me that cause me all kinds of trouble, like grapefruit, cinnamon, and now it seems, green tea.  I've done the ridiculous scratch test and a very limited IgE blood test, only one of which caught a wheat/barley allergy (but I'd been off wheat for 5 months, so I know that's not what's giving me grief) and am now awaiting the results of an IgG test.  

When I first tried BTD years ago I discovered that a lot of things that I'd already figured out caused me problems were avoids.  I wish I'd been more compliant back then and stuck with it.  It took me getting really whacked out to return to this way of eating.  While BTD and GTD/SWAMi have greatly improved my health in almost every way, I have an intollerance to something that results in EE that has just been made worse by following the plan.  I'm hoping something from the IgG test will pop out and put the final piece in the puzzle so that I can get past this one last hurdle.




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Plucky What does Grapefruit do to you?
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One yummy grapefruit, either regular or red, makes me break out in eczema really badly and gives me nightmarish heartburn/reflux.  I can't even have it in a supplement or skin care products    




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