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Munchkin76
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My OH is going through the latest (in a chain) of cold-like symptom outbreaks and is feeling pretty miserable   and it'd be great if I could provide a bit of a boost and state that nonnie-hood is not all doom and gloom with endless health issues on the horizon unto death.  We are both fairly compliant on the GTD, and I'm sure this will pass but.......

Please my esteemed nonnie peers help me on this mission!!  To be honest, I could do with some perking up too  !

Life as a nonnie can't be all bad, please tell me all the good stuff we have to look forard to  !

Thanks to you all in advance

Andy  


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"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Nonnie, nonnie, nonnie...oh yeah.  I had a bit of a hard time with it in the beginning.  I think as nonnies...most of us do.  For me...I think it takes me longer to heal...depending on the damage I have ingested.  Remember your supper with friends last weekend.   That is STILL working it's way out. It can take me more than a week to feel better again.   It's been a long time since I have felt really bad because of avoids.   Tell OH it will get better.  And...once you get your head wrapped around it...everything is good.  

Debra

P.S.  As Isa says...we nonnies age graaaaaccceeeffffuuuulllly.  


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Gheez Andrea he wanted encouragement.   That article is depressing.   But I did find 2 advantages in it.

"In the Secretor/Non-secretor world, Secretors have the slowest clotting while Non-secretors have shorter bleeding times and a tendency towards higher factor VIII and vWf. ABO and Secretor genetics actually further interact to influence blood viscosity. In essence what this means is that an A Non-secretor will be at the far end of the spectrum with the slowest bleeding times, thickest blood viscosity, and the most probability to have high platelet aggregation. On the other end on the continuum will be O Secretors, who will have the longest bleeding time, thinnest blood, and least tendency for platelet aggregation. Because of this, Non-secretors (especially the type A's) tend to be at the highest risk for future atherothrombotic and heart disease."

"Alcoholism has been associated with the Non-secretor blood type. On the positive side, alcohol consumption appears to exert a protective effect on lung function and to lower the risk of heart disease more in Non-secretors than in Secretors. The key principle with the use of alcohol is for Non-secretors (and everybody actually) is moderation."

So we can get drunk, cut ourselves in a brawl, and the wound will heal up fast.

The biggest advantage in the knowing that we are nonnies, is that now we know what to look out for and are better equipped at handling the situation.


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the simple fact of knowing more there is to know about your unique physiology makes it all worthwhile, and learning the strategies necessary to stay healthy, thanks to Dr D!


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Hey everyone

Thanks very much for the support and the good stuff in so far:

  • We age gracefully
  • Our blood clots more quickly than secretors (particularly useful for us O's)
  • We know more about our physiology and health issues because we're more challenged by them
  • Alcohol (in moderation) can be healthful


Great stuff so far, what else makes being a nonnie good?

Keep 'em coming!!

Andy  


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A favorite quote from Squirrel...
'I am me and, also an O-nonnie.  I'm allowed not to fit the mold.'

Debra


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If you are a type O woman who is pregnant with a type A non-secretor or type B non-secretor fetus, then you are unlikely to produce IgG antibodies against the fetus's ABO group. Therefore ABO hemolytic disease of the newborn is highly unlikely. That is an advantage of being a nonnie if your mother is blood group O.


My mom is an O and most likely nonnie. All 4 of her pregnancies were healthy (no hemoloytic jaundice) and to term.

Would not want to trade my nonnieness for the world


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Quoted from Captain_Janeway
Would not want to trade my nonnieness for the world


Ditto.

Debra



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RedLilac - thanks for the big laugh!  Though there's truth in what you say.

Did you see the thread about faster healing times for nonnies, maybe because of the better blood clotting? http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-nonnie/m-1254336961/

Once your nonnie-ness is known and you follow Dr D's advice, then your health risks will improve!  Every type has it's advantages and disadvantages, Secretors have the disadvantage of being the norm, I like the idea of being different!


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The good news of being a non-secretors is that we put our best germ defence forward first.

Good compliance allows us to not get infections in the first place.   I only get sick by eating off the diet first.   The flues are reportedly taking quite a toll in communities here, but I did not get any flu for two months until I ate pizza & burritos.  I was sabotaged as well.    

And nonnies do age gracefully - I expect that my paternal grandfather's brother who lived to be a hundred and seven was a nonnie!  An orchestral player, he switched instruments when he was seventy-seven and played for a good many years after that.  My maternal grandmother who is most decidedly an non-secreting Explorer, died when she was a hundred and three: she got her note  of congratulations from the Queen.  I would love to know how much better these two would have done with the diet to work with!

Quite simply, apart from some extra cancer protection, the general benefit from being a nonnie many not be fully understood yet.  The protective effect of alcohol, in moderation and according to diet, for the particular dangers of having thicker blood is one to celebrate, with a glass or two!

Dr. D' Adamo has expressed that Explorers, who may well account for the largest share of nonniehood, are difficult to diagnose.  So we know we need extra help.

Read the monograph  http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=36

Apart from distinguishing Warriors from Teachers, helping non-secretors is what the Genotype Diet is mainly about!  If the limitations of the diet outlined in Live Right For Your Type is difficult to stick to work with, you have alternatives with the Genotype and (even better) Swami Xpress.

Knowing what we are has not changed what we are.  You can be down about being a non-secretor, if you want to, but this will not make you feel better, or help you to be healthy.

I view being a non-secretor as a genetic permission to pursue different, sometimes apparently contradictory directions.  To be truly myself!      

Yes.  I am weird.  I was born that way.  No I will not take the main road.  It is in my genes.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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haaa.... thanx to all of my nonnie-hearts and friends ;) and oooh yeeaaa all points are fine and good statements.. but... something very important for you, my dearle Munchkin 76 is.....as Lola mentioned it and also Paul.... the best protection and knowleges is the knowledge about being a nonnie...the awareness you are going to develop whithin months and years will help you to stay healthy and away from white coated.... and this is the most important thing...boy, wheter you aren't crazy nor a a hypo in heathconcerns (called also hypochonder) but you know that you might have adverse reactions to a lot of things; you are muchmore sensitive to loudness, smells, even louder people ;) and so on...the knowledge about this calms you down and I saw also that often nonniees aren't *vagotonics* in contrary ;)...so our being - hyper is our naturel and we have to accept this as a gift...why coz it brings you muchmore insights...it helps you to understand the whole world from a bit another side and opinion.... ahem yessss ;)....Paul describes what I try to say in beautiful words...justamente the last 3 sentences are sooo huggyful ;) ...

nonnie makes the world go around...the world go around...the world go around...;)...especially the MD's ........we tick differently and often our clearvoyance is our ground that our suggestions always are right .... but then we dismiss coz of arguing if we were right and pass by good situations ;)... often here it is meant...to pass by money making situations... coz of fear in not attacking in the right moment... :-/ :P ....
Peter once mentioned that we, the AB's do have a special sense to go for big..buzz... if so.. I'd like to get the recipe instantly ;)
....

ok coming back to earth and why is it fine to be a nonnie...haa... coz we are *it*..... and we have to accept ourselfs as we are... no more no less... love yourself...accept yourself....integrate your shadow
and go for a joyful and with love filled life !!!
Sometimes the affirmations of Louise Hay might be of a wonderful support as well ;) ;D....
and ok a bit of the chanson of the black lady is true...* just simply the best*..... ;D ;D ...la..laa..laaa..laa.la.la.laaaa..........


                          
                            


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Great inspiring words thanks Paul and Isa!  

"the awareness you are going to develop whithin months and years will help you to stay healthy and away from white coated."  Great way to define health.  I think I'm allergic to white coats!  


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Hey everyone

Thanks tonnes for the amazing world of nonnie feedback!!

I'm starting to feel loads better about being a nonnie now and can't wait to share all this with my OH when I get home from work later!!

Nonnies Rock!!

Andy  


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yyyyyeeeehhhaaaa... so it is and shall be until the end of our lifes .....

btw... it wasn't meant to cry after *white coated* but often they lack knowlege of their jobs.... ouch.... ........to work onto several levels at the same time isn't given to all...ya know.... .....as Dr.P.D. shows always from his very best ....


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Being a non-secretor means being protected from most common strings of noroviruses, "winter vomiting disease". It is the most common form of gastroenteritis.

http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs601338

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/reprint/45/8/2720.pdf


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Hi Andy, sorry to hear your OH (is that other half?) is feeling sickly. I'm a nonnie too, and I don't let it get me down, as Popeye said, "I 'yam what I 'yam"  
     I've been on the Blood Type for 6 years, and when I am quite compliant, I feel great! When I cheat, my joints ache, and my face breaks out, so.... I really try to eat well. When the Genotype diet came out, I fully embraced it as a Teacher, however, I started picking up all the bugs that were going around. Hmmm... was it the cheeses etc.? However, it was January when I started, so lots of illness was flying around. After a few months, I drifted back to the BTD and I wasn't getting sick any more. I tried the Genotype again, and boom, started getting sick so now I've been back on BTD and no bugs, and if I feel like one is starting, I fight it off successfully. I have a feeling I measured myself wrong, and maybe I am not a Teacher after all. Work has been slow for my husband lately, so when finances allow, I am going to get the Swami Express and solve my Genotype mystery. I have such faith in Dr. D's work, that I know I'm goofing something up with Genotype. Could you have measured incorrectly?
   Enjoy being a nonnie, and hope your OH feels better quickly!


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Quoted from Munchkin76

  • We age gracefully
  • Our blood clots more quickly than secretors (particularly useful for us O's)
  • We know more about our physiology and health issues because we're more challenged by them
  • Alcohol (in moderation) can be healthful
Looks like the last item is questioned by GTD. Liver health is above all else. I think drinking alcohol won't help us age gracefully. Maybe there is a difference between reaching high age and ageing gracefully? The ability to repair genes was introduced by GTD and this is especially true among Explorers who are often or always nonnies.



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When you said white coated, Isa, I'm sure we all know you meant Medical Doctors and Surgeons not Naturopaths, including a certain very special one, that we all know and love!


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Proto - you're probably right there re: drinking alcohol not = ageing gracefully... it'd be fun though right   Only kidding, I rarely overindulge these days.

Ghee Whizz/Isa - couldn't agree more.  The only white coats I am comfortable seeing these days are of the natural variety.  With my blood disorder I spent far too long in hospital as a kid/young adult.

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I think you are going to solve all your problems with the right foods
dear Munchkin 76...add some fine orthomolecular stuffs and and hey you might -power tube as well you are in Europe ....so far.........


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Thanks Isa

Tell me more about this orthomolecular stuff and power tube?  I'm fascinated!

Andy  


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Thanks Isa, will check it out!  

Andy  


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