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 Nonnies, where where do you fit?
I am a nonnie and am overweight (55 votes)
35.71%
I am a nonnie and normal weight (37 votes)
24.03%
I am a nonnie and obese (33 votes)
21.43%
I am a thin nonnie (29 votes)
18.83%
154 Votes Total Last vote Thursday, June 5, 2014, 2:05pm by ayaka
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and don t forget to check up on your servings of live foods for when a craving for sweet comes along......the more you nourish your cells of the right nutrients vital to their function, the less cravings you ll experience!


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Fresh raw veggies chopped as fine as you can make a salsa.  No vinegar, no salt, no sugar, a little complain meat with the salsa.  I have my salsa in rice wraps, but that is not required.  You will see the pounds shed.

Great to hear of your success, Isa!  When the correct answer is there, you need never verify it's goodness.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from paul clucas
Fresh raw veggies chopped as fine as you can make a salsa.  No vinegar, no salt, no sugar, a little complain meat with the salsa. I have my salsa in rice wraps, but that is not required.  You will see the pounds shed.

Great to hear of your success, Isa!  When the correct answer is there, you need never verify it's goodness.


I need to remember to add those to my shopping list.  Are those the paper thin ones you must soak first?  A Vietnamese friend of ours used to make cold spring rolls with those.  They were sooo good!  
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Yes, soak for about 5 seconds.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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nori sheets also work for me, yet less grain.....
or even add a nori sheet to layer your rice wrap!!


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Quoted from Lola
nori sheets also work for me, yet less grain.....
or even add a nori sheet to layer your rice wrap!!


Great idea!  I love nori.
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Quoted from Lola
nori sheets also work for me, yet less grain.....
or even add a nori sheet to layer your rice wrap!!



Oh! AWESOME! That is a great idea! Thanks for sharing that one!


O positive baby boy.
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I just voted. I've had weight issues since I was young probably hypoglycemic even as a child. That wasn't diagnosed until I was in my 30's. I do have to watch that I get enough protein and don't get to much high glycemic food to stay sort of normal.
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I'm a nonnie and went through a seven year period of being overweigh, from about age 18 -25, which is probably the WORST time to have a weight problem.  Talk about not being able to get a date!!!     Once I lost all the weight I gained, I watch my weight very closely.  I don't count calories but know what I should and shouldn't eat.  I weight myself almost every day so that if I do gain weight, it is not more than 3 pounds.  This is what works for me.

Once I took off the weight, I kept it off for about 28 years until I hit peri-menopause about a year ago.  I gained about 7 pounds but have taken off 3-4 pounds so far on the BTD/GTD.  I am very close to my goal.   Even with the extra 7 pounds, everyone still thought I was skinny.  That is the word most people use to describe me.  I don't think I'm skinny, though.

Growing up, I never had to watch.  I was a very skinny, tiny kid - always the smallest in my class, being first or last in line.     I couldn't keep weight on.  I could eat whatever I wanted and never gained an ounce.  I weighed about 85 pounds in high school.  I also was VERY active.  Outdoors all day long, gymnastics in the winter.

I voted thin.


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I was just curious if nonnies are more likely to have weight problems than Secretors. I know both my husband and I have struggled with our weight our entire lives and we are both nonnies.  I have also often wondered if the people that are morbibly obese are non secretors.


I am just wondering if you knew "obese" should have been at the top of the list instead of "overweight" because being clinically obese is the worst end of the spectrum? I voted "obese" at 197 pounds, not "overweight".


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Found this by Dr. D regarding non secretors metabolic syndrome=overweight.






My God - thank you!!


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What a depressing article!



"Being a Non-secretor also offers a slight increase risk for having a problem with habitual snoring."

....I noticed I have STARTED SNORING and woken myself up doing so after I took that nasty job I have selling fresh fruits and veggies inside of health clinics where people are walking in with all their colds, flus, viruses........*auuughghgh!!*  When I am not in good liver health I SNORE. It all makes sense now!


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What a depressing article!



I have thought for some time that it is by far the most depressing thing Dr. D. has ever written. Like getting hit over the head with a two by eight! The fact that nonnies and their unique problems were not particularly addressed in the Geno Diet bothered me too. He definitely came through with the SWAMI though!


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Quoted from Lola
http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_secretor.htm
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How does epigenetics impact non-secretor status.  In other words, if we eat right and exercise right for our type, can we overcome the issues associated with the non-secretor status or are these issues inevitable?


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Great question Patty!  I would like to know if there is an answer to this also.  


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How does epigenetics impact non-secretor status.  In other words, if we eat right and exercise right for our type, can we overcome the issues associated with the non-secretor status or are these issues inevitable?


My understanding is that, by eating and exercising right for our individual bodies, we'll prevent any kind of health problem later in life. Nonnies tend to have certain issues, when they follow "one size fits all" dietary and lifestyle guidance. When we nourish our bodies as they should be nourished, there's no reason in the world we should be any sicker than secretors.

The problem is that most of us are healing from decades of doing things "wrong" and it may take a while to get everything back on track. Diet alone isnt' enough for many of us.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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My understanding is that, by eating and exercising right for our individual bodies, we'll prevent any kind of health problem later in life. Nonnies tend to have certain issues, when they follow "one size fits all" dietary and lifestyle guidance. When we nourish our bodies as they should be nourished, there's no reason in the world we should be any sicker than secretors.

The problem is that most of us are healing from decades of doing things "wrong" and it may take a while to get everything back on track. Diet alone isnt' enough for many of us.

I asked Dr. D about this a few years ago during one of our Forum discussions about the health risks of being a non-secretor.  I was feeling a bit of panic about the list of problems that we could be facing and I sort of asked if there is any hope for us.  

He answered by saying that that's what this is all about - his life's work around individualized eating and lifestyle choices.  It's to even out the scales.  That's why we need to look at this way of eating as a way of living - not a short-term diet to lose weight or clear up a problem that we're having.  This is all about by-passing the major diseases that would ordinarily plague us, and give us the opportunity to live a life of good health and happiness.

Dabbling in this way of eating and not taking it seriously is not going to offer the long-range protection that he was speaking of.  




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Quoted from Victoria

I asked Dr. D about this a few years ago during one of our Forum discussions about the health risks of being a non-secretor.  I was feeling a bit of panic about the list of problems that we could be facing and I sort of asked if there is any hope for us.  

He answered by saying that that's what this is all about - his life's work around individualized eating and lifestyle choices.  It's to even out the scales.  That's why we need to look at this way of eating as a way of living - not a short-term diet to lose weight or clear up a problem that we're having.  This is all about by-passing the major diseases that would ordinarily plague us, and give us the opportunity to live a life of good health and happiness.

Dabbling in this way of eating and not taking it seriously is not going to offer the long-range protection that he was speaking of.

Great post, Victoria!


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My understanding is that, by eating and exercising right for our individual bodies, we'll prevent any kind of health problem later in life. Nonnies tend to have certain issues, when they follow "one size fits all" dietary and lifestyle guidance. When we nourish our bodies as they should be nourished, there's no reason in the world we should be any sicker than secretors.

The problem is that most of us are healing from decades of doing things "wrong" and it may take a while to get everything back on track. Diet alone isnt' enough for many of us.


Right on, Ruthie!


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Quoted from Lola
http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_secretor.htm
for those interested in the whole article


Thanks for posting this, Lola. It's been so long since I've read all the books that I kind of forgot what a huge risk I'm at for heart disease and diabetes, both of which are rampant in my metabolic syndrome X-filled family.

I just went to SWAMI and printed out all my recipes and food list. In light of my pregnancy and still-obese-status it's more important than ever that I take control of my health, for my sake and my child's!
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keep up the good work Kate!


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when I eat right I have control..

when I go off then I am off, then I am running from my own self - bad desires and lack of any willpower..

eating right for you and your child will result in your dropping many a pound without hurting the child.  The baby eats from your fat, not from your food.. Eating healthy now is important to avoid issues in the baby later.. keep up the good work: it's worth it..


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I spent the first 35 years of my life desparately trying to gain weight. When my wife and I were dating, she would introduce me to friends as " The only starving artist in history to eat 12 meals a day..."

35 - 45: Muscular & strong, but glucose, BP and cholesteral rising.
45- 55: Drowning in a toxic layer of fat.
55- 57 : BTD/GT Healthy again! Rebuilding strength, energy & stamina. All numbers normal.

BTD/GT is the future.
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Quoted from Averno
I spent the first 35 years of my life desparately trying to gain weight. When my wife and I were dating, she would introduce me to friends as " The only starving artist in history to eat 12 meals a day..."

35 - 45: Muscular & strong, but glucose, BP and cholesteral rising.
45- 55: Drowning in a toxic layer of fat.
55- 57 : BTD/GT Healthy again! Rebuilding strength, energy & stamina. All numbers normal.

BTD/GT is the future.
Good to hear & funny story

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I voted normal, but wasn't always that way.  I started getting the midriff as a child, then was anorexic at age 15 which I now blame on plummeting zinc levels due to previous dieting....Recovered from that, then went on to be bulimic at university - that seemed to be related to eating bread.  So basically all the avoid foods made me want to binge, and then I felt sick, plus I was terrified of gaining so vomited.  I was a very sick young woman for a long time.  It wasn't until I stopped eating the foods that made me binge that I started to let go and eat the quantities my body wanted - first low carbing and then BTD.  TUrns out it is not the carbs, nor the calories, but the types of foods eaten.  Being a nonnie I am very sensitive to weight gain from avoids it seems.  BUt it is a simple thing - I just don't eat them, or very little as in dark chocolate etc.  I can pretty much eat my fill of everything on the ok lists and nothing bad happens.  That was SUCH a relief when I found that out.

However, I would say some of the nonnie problems I DON'T have - like I have really good teeth - not a single filling (cavity I assume) despite having eaten a lot of sweets as a child.  I also don't snore, and don't get UTIs much.  Actually I used to get a few, but since I've been on minerals (including continuing zinc) I haven't had any.  I wonder if nonnies are prone to being low in zinc?

I am coming to the end of my first pregnancy with my son, and I haven't had any problems despite being 36 although I guess that isn't old these days.  My weight has been great and I am mostly all belly - I have been eating loads of foods all off the good lists with the odd avoid but no gluten.  I really think if it wasn't for BTD/swami I might have had a tougher time.  I have had a bit of low iron though, but I supplement for that.  Oddly I have been off red meat despite trying to eat more and wanting fried fish (I do my own in rice flour and olive oil) despite being a bit low in iron.  Anyway....off subject.

Being a nonnie I don't feel is a bad thing with the help of this diet.  I mean I would LOVE to be able to eat goat cheese and that does annoy me, but that is the only issue that bothers me really.  Plenty of foods for nonnies, including a few that secretors can't have (like avocados for type O!).
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