You're so funny, Possum.  Yes, a Charlie horse is a leg cramp.

Why is it called that??

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But being an Aussie/NZ'er I'm not sure what a Charlie Horse is...??!! I assume its slang for cramp or something like that??!!

Yes a "Charlie Horse" (or "Charley Horse") is a leg cramp. Here's the Wikipedia article on it, which includes a couple of suggestions as to how the term became popular. I'd actually heard a different story -- something about a messenger named Charlie who walked because he couldn't afford a horse to ride; and due to the excessive exercise, would develop leg cramps, which were caused by "Charlie's horse" (i.e., the lack thereof!).  

Possum- it is under the sheet (not the mattress) Charlie Horse is a hard hard cramp usually in the upper thigh and holds on like forever, can also hit calves of the leg.  So yes an old term for cramps. lol.

At my heaviest I was only about 15 lbs of fertility drug weight over my ideal. Now I'm about right by Asian standards (BMI of 19) which is a little underweight by UK standards.

My nonnie DH is naturally very slim but he put on a lot of weight living off expenses   before the diet. Since he started the diet, he steadily lost weight until he got down to his ideal weight, and then the weight loss stopped.

I'd say there might be something to this. I'm a fitness instructor and triathlete, and still hover about 5-10 lbs. over the line between "healthy" and "normal" weight. I'm interested to see how that changes now that I'm experimenting with BTD/GTD (not sure which one I'll end up sticking with).

I'm an A+  nonnie, Teacher - never really been overweight, but athletic looking.
Takes a while to gain weight.
My mom is also an A + Teacher (And I'm thinking she's a nonnie) Do one of
my parents have to be a nonnie? Anyway, both are very thin. Mom weighs 94 lbs
and always has. I'm not even close to that small but I'm taller and have a different build.
We'll see what the future holds. I feel it's getting harder now to maintain,
but still have ideal weight and BMI.

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http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_secretor.htm
for those interested in the whole article

What a depressing article!

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What a depressing article!

Now to take good care of yourself as every nonnie should.

I read that article, too, and my first thought was "Can we get it in English, please?" It's hard to wade through it and make sense of all the terrible things that can happen to nonnies.

My dad...I wonder if he was a Nonnie. He was absent for most of my life, but even when he was married to Mom, I get the sense that he wasn't healthy even back then. His back was always messed up, and later on he lost his teeth and got dentures, got Type II diabetes, high BP, high cholesterol, calcified spine (probably complications from a fall). he also had several strokes. He was dead at 56.
The fact that he smoked like a chimney and drank Coke like water for years didn't help I'm sure, but I would think a secretor would survive poor lifestyle habits or misfortune better than a Nonnie would.

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but of course also coz I am not moving enough...and I can't get my *ahem* out the door as I'd like to, or better said should to.... .....

hmmmwill have an eye into the explorer diet...perhaps does it helps me out here .....

Diet won't help with lack of movement.
Sometimes you just have to get up, grab your nose and pull yourself out the door for your walk...  Or something else that is effective for you...  

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I read that article, too, and my first thought was "Can we get it in English, please?" It's hard to wade through it and make sense of all the terrible things that can happen to nonnies.

My dad...I wonder if he was a Nonnie. He was absent for most of my life, but even when he was married to Mom, I get the sense that he wasn't healthy even back then. His back was always messed up, and later on he lost his teeth and got dentures, got Type II diabetes, high BP, high cholesterol, calcified spine (probably complications from a fall). he also had several strokes. He was dead at 56.
The fact that he smoked like a chimney and drank Coke like water for years didn't help I'm sure, but I would think a secretor would survive poor lifestyle habits or misfortune better than a Nonnie would.

Sorry to hear about your dad. I just found out I'm a nonnie and I've been very healthy all my life. I never really got those nagging ailments that others get....but I feel like I'm starting to tire out! I'm still trying to find out if one of my parents has to be a nonnie for me to be one? I'll feel better if the answer is yes because both are very healthy. My mom is always tired, but otherwise healthy. Neither is ever on any meds and both are 67. I'll take that as a nonnie.

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Diet won't help with lack of movement.
Sometimes you just have to get up, grab your nose and pull yourself out the door for your walk...  Or something else that is effective for you...  

Too true!

Normally, I would not be caught dead in the local gym (which is 3 minutes walk from my house.)   So I am now making peanuts delivering fliers.  The money is not much, but it motivates me to get walking.  I am loosing my jowls ( ), my leg muscles are bigger and more defined, and the routes are getting easier to do.  If I work the diet more and keep this up, I might loose the "Heaviest Member of the Board" status.

    

hey youzz two men... overthere give me another glimps of a sport/movement  issue... than those   .... I work all day long...come home late and then you ask me to go for a walk...or even toughy whatsoever ...  jaminei... I'm a reactive  explorer but I felt that my tutor prof. dr. Uhlenbruck was right when mentioning: Sport is murder* ...not a lie my sweet dearles... not at all  ... but I felt always very drained after havin given a real try to move more or even intense sports; I love to walk...even brisk walks ok ( no problems with my looong legs ) ... but all about training modalities...fffttt...but in my youth I really went for toughy sports and got my early results in heavy inflammation issues from da finest... so I was forced to give up all I loved and since then...my feelings dropped rapidly when somebody tries to make me understand.. hey Isa..go for *it*....you should do this and that... yep I recognize it's a bit controversal to my firstlaberings... but it is at it is...

YES IT IS and I read somewhere that a bar of soap might work.. yes and a metals object .. NOW my brother has that cramp stuff from NEUROPATY ( diabetes related) and I wonder if just washing with a good oldfashioned soap might help during the day ????????

I voted ...

when a person is way overweight, or have very bad health, they cannot pull themselves, up and go outside to lose weight.  But I will tell you something, this BTD, even works for those people.  I lost 100 # without going outside to walk, I did isometrics, in my chair, and took baby steps to my bathroom and back with a walker, it takes time and determination, and a lot of stick-to-tive-ness, to get a lot better, to lose weight, and to finally be able to get outside and walk 50 feet in one direction, sit down and walk 50 feet in the other direction.  Slow yes, but this diet works, that is what I'm saying. I'm living proof it helps COPD, CHF/w hypoxia,heart attack, and diabetes,& arthrtis, all at the same time. Just wanted to let you know, it is possible with little or no exercise, but if one can I encourage, them to do so.

a bar of soap under the sheet when resting or sleeping, helps to prevent charley horses, I haven't had one, since, I've put one under, and use to get them quite often.

GOSCH this thread is getting all juices flowing .. loosing 100pds weight and not running like a mad person.. now that is living.. congrats.. write a  book please..

Concentrating on the healing will eventually feed the mind the determination and drive we need to get us moving at the level our true type requires to achieve our goals ...  

dearles.. I did it.. bought the *Massai shoes MBT* and I am walking every day... and dancings...every day.. jjjahhuiii to Amr Diab and Ishtar Alabina and the beautiful musique of Haissam Salah Eddine... justamente great.... sometimes classic arab musique and shake...shake...shake slowly but yep every day...it's like stretching but muchmore gentle and a fine rhythme...  
Have lost 4 kilos whithin 9 days and I stopped GTD... and I'm back on BTD and feel great   poundies are melting and I hope to be superfit for 2011 and the conference   meep-meep....

another two poundies gone this week ...

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another two poundies gone this week ...  

Good job..

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My mom is always tired, but otherwise healthy. Neither is ever on any meds and both are 67. I'll take that as a nonnie.

Just my opinion, but I don't think "always tired, but otherwise healthy" really go together. If someone is always tired there is something wrong. May not be anything serious, but there is something wrong. Maybe it would be wise to have her thyroid checked.

Tired to me is more likely sugar issues related either eating the sugar in many forms of avoids.. or sugar conversion the body cant handle well... and sugar causes depression.. but I for my self.. I have no job life so to me sleeping is a choice- I can make the day shorter..

but being tired or taking a nap are two different things.. I used to be tired to the point of not wanting to breath it was just to hard.. doing BTD helped that over years.. today I am ok..

surprisingly taking a drop of the Carob Extract recently has helped me a lot in that regard.. I have not figured out why - it has no caffeine- but by what I EXPERIENCE as evened out balance of sugar spikes seems to give me more energy.. yet no stimulation.. sort of nondescript.. even balance.. but no test to back it up yet..

Nonnie and definitely overweight here.  As an adult, I was always toward the lower end of the range of normal weight for my height, and I was waif thin as a child, teen, and even through my 20s.  I've gained a LOT of weight over the past three years.  The chart may not indicate obesity, but I feel like a whale, especially in my mid section.  I've lost 11-12 lbs since starting BTD a couple of months ago, and I'm very pleased with how painless that's been.  I didn't even have a problem giving up coffee, so I must be meant for BTD (aren't we all?).  The weight loss is almost incidental to the other benefits I'm feeling.  I'm a believer now...I still have a long way to go, but the journey so far is is certainly interesting.  I'm going to try not to obsess over the scale numbers right now and just keep at it.  We'll see where I end up.  I'm hoping by this time next year to feel very differently than when I started out.