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 Nonnies, where where do you fit?
I am a nonnie and am overweight (55 votes)
35.71%
I am a nonnie and normal weight (37 votes)
24.03%
I am a nonnie and obese (33 votes)
21.43%
I am a thin nonnie (29 votes)
18.83%
154 Votes Total Last vote Thursday, June 5, 2014, 2:05pm by ayaka
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macawluver
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I was just curious if nonnies are more likely to have weight problems than Secretors. I know both my husband and I have struggled with our weight our entire lives and we are both nonnies.  I have also often wondered if the people that are morbibly obese are non secretors.
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Made me think more that I am a Nonnie, been morbidly obese all my life.  If this is true, I would guess that my two brothers are also, wish we could find out for sure.

(to people who have not heard from me in a long long time,  my computer crashed, just got a refurbished one, that is working well, no complaints. So HI to everyone, and I am fine and doing great!)
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Welcome back geminisue.   Sorry about your computer.   Great to see you here again.   How are the dishcloths coming along?

I voted nonnie and overweight.   Eight years ago I would've voted with the obese.    Still struggling with weight, but I don't have an obsession with food as much either.   At least, not the bad crappy stuff as in eating it.   Now, I am obsessed with eating the good food which makes me feel sooooooo much better.  

Debra


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How about very skinny too.. unhealthy looking.. gaunt.

My A teacher nonnie brother can't keep weight on.


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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Found this by Dr. D regarding non secretors metabolic syndrome=overweight.



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Diabetes, Heart Disease, & Metabolic Syndrome X

Non-secretors are at a greater risk of developing diabetes (especially adult onset diabetes); and they might be at a greater risk of developing complications from diabetes. Data allows the conclusion that Non-secretors are a risk factor for myocardial infarction and heart disease (note: this is particularly true for men).

Several different researchers have noted a connection between a metabolic syndrome called "Syndrome X" and Non-secretor blood types. Syndrome X is a clustering of metabolic problems comprised of insulin resistance (your cells do not respond effectively to the insulin that you create), elevated plasma glucose (high blood sugar), lipid regulation problems (elevated triglycerides, increased small low-density lipoproteins, and decreased high-density lipoproteins), high blood pressure, a prothrombic state (tendency to clotting), and obesity (especially central obesity or a predisposition to gaining weight in the abdomen). This cluster of metabolic disorders seem to interact to promote the development of diabetes (adult onset type II), atherosclerosis, and cardiovascular disease. And while insulin resistance might lie at the heart of the problem, all of these metabolic disorders appear to contribute to health problems.



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"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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since I am in menopause, mann I gained weight, really NOT lekker ...I am really struggelin with that issue...but of course also coz I am not moving enough...and I can't get my *ahem* out the door as I'd like to, or better said should to.... .....

hmmmwill have an eye into the explorer diet...perhaps does it helps me out here .....


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http://www.dadamo.com/program_advanced_secretor.htm
for those interested in the whole article


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I am a nonnie and slim. Never had a weight issue, but have always eaten healthy (lots of vegetables and fruits, moderate amounts of fish, meat and eggs, moderate amounts of gluten free grains). I also make sure that I walk regulary and do exercises.
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I'm not sure if I should vote for "obese" or "oveweight" (or just skip the poll entirely since I'm not 100% sure I'm a nonnie.)

According to BMI calculations and all those stupid weight charts, I'm "obese." But I have a very large bone structure. At my healthiest adult weight, I was just barely in the "normal weight" category- another 5 lbs and I'd be catagorized as "overweight" even though I'd only be 5 lbs over my ideal weight! My current "goal weight"- a realistic weight goal that's about 15 lbs heavier than I was at age 20, is well within the 'overweight" category.

So, at  around 30 lbs heavier than I think I should be, I think I'm "overweight." When I weighed 190, and had high blood pressure and a fatty liver, I think I was "obese." Losing just 15 lbs got me away from those obesity-related health problems, leading me to beleive that I'm no longer "obese" but merely "overweight."

Then again, I've regained about 7 lbs since I adopted the BTD and abandoned strict low-carb eating, so maybe I actually am "obese" again.  

I need to be strict about following the nonnie diet (which coincidentally cuts out most forms of sugar and many grains), as well as keeping down my intake of O nonnie-friendly grains and sweeteners. I'm eating more molasses today because of a wicked sore throat (although it's getting better than it was yesterday) but I plan to cut back on that once I'm better. Besides, I have very little appetite so the increase in carbs should be compensated by the major decrease in calories.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from Amazone I.
since I am in menopause, mann I gained weight, really NOT lekker ...I am really struggelin with that issue...but of course also coz I am not moving enough...and I can't get my *ahem* out the door as I'd like to, or better said should to.... .....

hmmmwill have an eye into the explorer diet...perhaps does it helps me out here .....


I gained about 15lbs in the last 5 years since I started getting hot flashes. Plus no energy at all. I've been eating the Explorer diet for almost 5 months now and I just weighed myself. I lost 10 lbs! And I haven't started exercising yet! I do gentle yoga everyday though I still feel pretty tired most of the time (detox, getting rid of my candida, and I still have the hot flashes which wear you out!) but I do have more energy than I did six months ago. By the way, I'm eating more food than I was before starting Explorer, but I'm also very strict. I've only let a couple of black dots back in.


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Ruthie, is molasses supposed to help throats?


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I didn't vote:

I was thin & underweight as a child and into early adulthood.  But when I got married and had great meals to come home to every night, I gained weight.  But that was also the time I started to drink cola.

I started to notice symptoms of syndrome X in 2006 and became overweight.  In April 2007 I reached a high of 182lb, > 20% body fat and BMI > 25.

Now I am normal weight of 154lb, 15% body fat & BMI = 22.74.

My nonnie status is only assumed, not verified through testing.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Ruthie, is molasses supposed to help throats?


Anything sugary/syrupy is soothing to very sore throats. My mom always gave me tea with honey when I was a child, but I've since discovered that honey makes me very nauseated when I'm sick. I've always done better with sugar in tea when I'm ill. Right now, I'm sticking to molasses because it's the only sweetener that's neutral for nonnies (except for agave but I'm not convinced it's a particularly healthy product for anybody and I haven't bought any.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Soothing, but good? maybe not? sugar makes bacteria grow.



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I take a teaspoon of molasses whenever I have leg cramps.  It stops them almost immediately.  Maybe cramps are a mineral deficiency and maybe molasses helps with minerals?  Glad to know it is the neutral  sweetener for non-secretors.
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Honey is antibacterial.  I don't know that molasses is.


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nada para me as being an A2B nonnie... molasse...very b...puky-puke ...better to go for my supps ...


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Soothing, but good? maybe not? sugar makes bacteria grow.



...and weakens the immune defenses almost instantly. They have measured this.


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Voted Obese since there is not a category for "Beyond the limit on Morbidly Obese."

I have lost 20 lbs on GTD (ignoring portion size and balance) and pumping 3 * 52 oz "cups" of water.  Now  that I am sleeping on a properly supportive bed, my back will now be good for substancial exercise.  Bring on the sweat!


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For the 1st 50 years of my life I would have voted thin then I got menopause and gained some weight, but was still within the weight range, but at the high end.  I lost 30 lbs which put me back at the low end.  Then I twisted my knee a 1-1/2 ago and gained 20 lbs, which put me at the high end again.  It took me a year, but I have now lost that and Im right where I want to be.  So I voted normal.


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Im nonnie and not overweight and never I had that problem, maybe because Im Nomad


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Quoted from Sharon
I take a teaspoon of molasses whenever I have leg cramps.  It stops them almost immediately.  Maybe cramps are a mineral deficiency and maybe molasses helps with minerals?  Glad to know it is the neutral sweetener for non-secretors.
Just in case anyone sees this & wonders...muscles need magnesium to relax... and as molasses has magnesium in it, as well as calcium & potassium among other great minerals, it will help with cramps...

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Possum- I remove the wrapper from a bar of soap and place it under my sheet, and haven't had a charlie horse since.  I don't understand why or how, but it works, for everyone I suggested it too.
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So... you're saying .... that putting a bar of soap under your mattress affects your stock breeding programme ??!! Well I'll be......interested to know why/how
Sorry... just pulling your leg...But being an Aussie/NZ'er I'm not sure what a Charlie Horse is...??!! I assume its slang for cramp or something like that??!!
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