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cozzete
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I am just returning to this site after being gone for years. I have a question about the secretor/non secretor status and rh negative blood. I am 0 negative. If i am kissing an A or any other blood type and i'm a secretor and they are a secretor...why wouldn't kissing an A cause my body to start creating antibodies against the A kisser and eventually if we kiss long enough i'll end up killing the A blood type. Why doesn't this happen?



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have you checked? Are you sure this isn't happening?
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The funny thing is that years ago whenever i kissed my husband...the A...i got sick the next day. So i quit kissing him. If i had continued kissing him..i might be dead now.


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lol I have thought about the same thing.  If As make antibodies against Bs (cheese anyone?), my husband and I should have trouble getting pregnant, right?  I have a B husband and a B baby.  I have no trouble getting pregnant.


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I'm an O neg. secretor and my ex is an AB+, don't know secretor status.  Come to think of it I was sick a lot during our marriage .
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I think Cozzete's pulling our collective legs!  



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But...haven't you read Dr. D's Baby Book?


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I am just returning to this site after being gone for years. I have a question about the secretor/non secretor status and rh negative blood. I am 0 negative. If i am kissing an A or any other blood type and i'm a secretor and they are a secretor...why wouldn't kissing an A cause my body to start creating antibodies against the A kisser and eventually if we kiss long enough i'll end up killing the A blood type. Why doesn't this happen?


You already have A and B antibodies against anything A,B,or AB. Thing is kissing is not the same thing as getting blood from an incompatible donor...thank goodness,incompatible red blood cells will cause an immediate reaction that is often life threatening. Other cells that carry ABO antigens do not cause an immediate life threatening reaction in the same way that the red blood cells do.

My boyfriend is an A blood type, but I suspect that he is a secretor. So I wonder if I get some dental benefits from kissing an A secretor.


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Only if he's very recently been crunching xylitol.  


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plus you get to keep a few of his antigens...so it s a win win situation!


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This is so funny!
We definitely need Dr. D's input!
If there were any cross-pollution, it would be miniscule. We do breathe pollutants all the time, after all!


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Quoted from Lola
plus you get to keep a few of his antigens...so it s a win win situation!

Unless he has a cold sore, like DH does right now.


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I meant the non existing antigens in our 'non secretor' secretion!!


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I have a more pressing problem at the moment. So i just started the diet a few days ago. Eating just about everything that is beneficial. Except for  a  Hershey bar everyday. I had organic steak tid bits for breakfast with sauted red peppers and onions cooked with a little tumeric. Shortly thereafter I got a pain in my stomach area. It comes and goes. Kind of sharp..and my stomach feels really hard. I don't think its incarcerated whatever. I did have canned white beans 3 days ago. I want to know if this is abnormal..or normal when you're eating so many beneficials. Is there a place on this site where it talks about problems that might occur as you begin this diet?

And i'm not really pulling anyone's leg. I just have a funny way of expressing myself. It was a serious question.


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I d experience those cramps you describe eating a Hbar daily!!


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Is there a place on this site where it talks about problems that might occur as you begin this diet?


detox issues and such.....loads of threads around, under testimonials...check the forum main page.


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Are any of the beneficials brand new foods that your body is not accustomed to?  That can cause some adjustments as you get used to them.  Also there is the possibility of food combinations not being compatible, such as canned beans with fruits or sugar.

How long have you been eating that Hershey's bar everyday?  



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I'm with Lola.  If I ate milk chocolate my stomach would hurt.


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oh,....ummm...ah....one every day for eight years?  They never caused me  the kind of problems that eating bread or dairy has caused me.  Everytime i went through a period in my life where i ate bread..i gained weight and had digestion problems.  But i'd be willing to give the hersheys up. I find that a teaspoon of maple syrup on my ezekial cereal takes care of my sweet tooth. I almost never eat beans..so that might have been it..and i'm not used to red peppers either.

I know i'm on the wrong subject site but everyone seems to be everywhere.  I think of a new question just about every hour.

I flirted with the fit for life diet last summer...never mixing fruit with other foods..the idea being that the enzymes that break down fruit are different from the enzymes that break down other foods.  Something about acid foods and alkaline foods cancel each other out and then neither food gets digested properly. Does Dr. D address this anywhere? . I suppose i could  put acid and alkaline in the search area.

I was searching for information on Alzheimers(which my mother has) on this site and found something i had written in 1999. And i'm reading it and thinking...wow..thats just what i wanted to know years ago..and what a scare when i saw my own name at the top of the thread. Anyway, i'm back on the diet and  i pretty much have always given my mother protein and vegetables. She is 0 neg. and she had a passion for good bread her whole life. I would never give her potatos because she had arthritus in her fingers...and once i did for a while and her arthritus got worse.  And when i stopped the potatos..the fingers got better.

So..thanks for listening.


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Also...until i learn my secretor status..i'm sticking with the foods that are beneficial for both types. Is there something about these genotypes which i know nothing about at the moment which could change the status of the foods that are supposedly beneficial?

As for guessing my secretor status..i saw that one post where there were a few characteristics of non-secretors. Does every non secretor snore? Do secretors not ever snore? Is there a list somewhere of characteristics of the secretors?  

Thanks again.


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there s lots that has been said throughout the forum.....
no specific listing cause we are all individuals .....
use the search feature ......enjoy your reading!

get the GTD book from your local library, to get an idea of the possible changes in food values versus the different GTs.
also a good read would be the monographs for each GT in the BTD online store, as well as this on O basics
Blood Type O Basics: Click Here
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeO_basic.asp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VPbbu2pmU


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cozette,
You are very welcome on this Forum, with any and all questions, and there are a lot of people who enjoy supporting each other toward better health.  So I hope you will continue to keep sharing your journey with us.
The Genotype diet is a different approach, and is based on many factors, blood type being only one of them.  So it doesn't overlap with the bloodtype diet.  People generally choose one program or the other. Both are excellent, and you can take your time getting familiar with the genotype program, while still following the bloodtype diet.

It's close to impossible to know if you are a secretor or nonnie, although we all enjoy speculating a lot.  The only way to know for sure is the saliva test, and most of us feel that it is an investment that is well worth the effort, especially if you have a chronic health issue or major weight problem.

I think you have a good idea;  following the lists for both non and secretor.  You could also eliminate the avoids for both, if you want to be sure, until you get tested.



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Does every non secretor snore? Do secretors not ever snore? Is there a list somewhere of characteristics of the secretors?

I snored when I was heavily toxic.  Once I removed most of the toxins from my diet, I stopped most of the snoring.  During times of very heavy detox, I still snore, but it is much less often and not as heavy as before.



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