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Squirrel
Monday, August 11, 2008, 10:42am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Last week I was in the store where DH and I had our secretor testing done. I asked them how many of their customers were secretors compared with non-secretors. They very kindly worked it out for me, and here's the shocker.

53% of the people tested are NON-secretors!

This is WAY over the 15-20% figure that Dr. D found during his tests.

Not surprisingly, this made me wonder! Is it possible that saliva "degenerates" during its long journey across the world from Singapore to the labs in the US?

Could I possibly be a secretor after all??? (Please, oh please...)


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Henriette Bsec
Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:18am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I simply think that it is more likely that a nonnie will get tested or for that matter follow BTD
- simply cause it is easier to survive in the real world as a secretor

Like for a B secretor you can live pretty happy in a Danish cuisine - only drawback is the widely use of pork and rye... but lots of people do not eat rye bread or lots of pork so

I think the nonnies are overly reprensented on this board as well  
- especially there seem to be lots of B nonnies compaired to B secs.


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Dr. D
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I think nonnies spend more time with health issues and just get tested more. We see the same thing with blood testing (Lewis) as well


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Ron-A-Non
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I shudder to think what my Lewis status would be... I don't think I could take any more shocks.

I've been reading a book called "The Calcium Bomb", about nanobacteria that build calcium shells around themselves throughout your body and cause blockages, plaques and stones everywhere, and I've been thinking I might need to do something like that, considering the stress I've been under for so long, and having mistakenly been on the "O" diet for over two years...

...Granted, on the "O" nonnie diet, the only thing I really did wrong was the eating of red meat like beef and lamb, but MAN did I eat some beef and lamb.  And lots of bladderwrack, so I've probably jacked my iodine up through the roof.

I get these weird pains and aches in my gallbladder region now, as well as where my kidneys are.
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about nanobacteria that build calcium shells around themselves throughout your body and cause blockages, plaques and stones everywhere, and I've been thinking I might need to do something like that,


be gentle to yourself and simply follow your guidelines...you ll be reset in no time, just be patient and compliant!


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I think nonnies spend more time with health issues and just get tested more. We see the same thing with blood testing (Lewis) as well

We nonnies are just high-maintenance!
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Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 12:04am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Drive55,

Considering that the Love of my life is an A nonnie, I say that you can say that again!

Thanks for the lol!
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I think more non-secretors visit doctors and health care practitioners of all kinds also.  This could give the mistaken idea that most people are nonnies.

If people don't know about how to eat for their own individual weaknesses, nonnies can struggle for a lifetime to find a way to feel good.  Dr. D has made it simple, according to my body's response to 9 years on my BTD and more than 1/2 a year following the Nomad program!



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Yeah, I think we're more likely to say, "Tried that, still didn't feel good.  Tried that, still didn't feel good.  Tried this, much worse.  Now this is a little better, but still not good enough.  What's next?"


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I've been reading a book called "The Calcium Bomb", about nanobacteria that build calcium shells around themselves throughout your body and cause blockages, plaques and stones everywhere, and I've been thinking I might need to do something like that, considering the stress I've been under for so long, and having mistakenly been on the "O" diet for over two years...


Ron,
I ate almost completely wrong for my type for a little over 40 years.  
I have eaten according to AB diet for about two years and according to the Genotype diet since January.  I am also supplementing to support the filtering organs and add some Amino acids for healing while this intense detox progresses.  My body is expelling many little rocks through the sweat pores as well as pushing some larger cyst remains through skin.  It is also reabsorbing major portions of cysts in and processing it through digestion/elimination channels.

My experience is that the body heals the most critical organs first and progresses to the least important as fast as it can.  I marvel at the amount of regulation it does.  If I allow it to utilize most of the energy for healing, it heals faster.  If I need to do something, so use a bunch of energy, it slows the healing while it recovers, then picks up again...  


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aaahhheeemmm.... yessss...the bigger part of *my clients* really ARE nonnies ....    seems that Murphy's law and *thoughts  becomes things are working..... (for me ;) ).....*

but those came coz they werent' really understood nor accepted as they are by their treating therapists... .... I always see their lightnings in their eyes when I say to them...sorry but I'm one of you too and sorry I really do understand... ;)


of course am I 100% of my own.....world.....


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If I allow it to utilize most of the energy for healing, it heals faster.  If I need to do something, so use a bunch of energy, it slows the healing while it recovers, then picks up again...  

That's what I'm thinking.  So much to heal inside of me, maybe that's why I'm not putting on muscle mass, even though my job can be physically intense.
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I've been reading a book called "The Calcium Bomb", about nanobacteria that build calcium shells around themselves throughout your body and cause blockages, plaques and stones everywhere


Wow, thanks, Ron, I'm gonna check that book out. Last year an xray showed a bunch of "phleboliths," stones in my blood vessels in my abdomen. It was difficult to find any info on this, especially since the doctor shrugged it off, saying they're common in people over 50. (Why had I never heard of them??
So, thanks again!


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Quoted from Squirrel
Last week I was in the store where DH and I had our secretor testing done. I asked them how many of their customers were secretors compared with non-secretors. They very kindly worked it out for me, and here's the shocker.

53% of the people tested are NON-secretors!

This is WAY over the 15-20% figure that Dr. D found during his tests.

Not surprisingly, this made me wonder! Is it possible that saliva "degenerates" during its long journey across the world from Singapore to the labs in the US?

Could I possibly be a secretor after all??? (Please, oh please...)


Interesting happenings on this thread:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1217875410/s-new/#num7, check out Tom's comment !



BTD compliance means: Definition of "Compliance"

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Ron-A-Non
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Wow, thanks, Ron, I'm gonna check that book out. Last year an xray showed a bunch of "phleboliths," stones in my blood vessels in my abdomen. It was difficult to find any info on this, especially since the doctor shrugged it off, saying they're common in people over 50. (Why had I never heard of them??
So, thanks again!


Glad to be of help.  The book was great.
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Is it possible to see the percentages of blood types and secretor/non-secretor status (where known) of the users registered on this website?

Anyone know?


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Squirrel
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Interesting happenings on this thread:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1217875410/s-new/#num7, check out Tom's comment !
OK, now THAT's scary. An O-sec following an O-non diet isn't so bad, but what if that happened to an A?

I had 10 months on the O-sec diet before I got tested, and there were improvements. But apart from losing another 3lbs, I didn't notice any further improvements after going on the O-non diet. I also haven't noticed any ill-effects when I've had O-non avoids which are neutral for O-secs, but I have when I've had avoids for O-secs.

Don't worry, I'm not planning on ignoring the secretor testing! But it's interesting. I might look into having the blood test.


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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I also haven't noticed any ill-effects when I've had O-non avoids which are neutral for O-secs, but I have when I've had avoids for O-secs.


I'm the same way.  There are foods on the A sec. diet that didn't bother me, which I couldn't eat on the A non. diet.  But the GTD explained some of that--some of those foods I really could have.  

Another thing: just because it doesn't make you feel bad doesn't mean it's not doing harm.  Unlike many As, I don't feel sluggish or anything after eating beef.  That doesn't mean I eat it often, but the handful of times I've had it in the last few years it didn't bother me.  But that doesn't mean it's not encouraging cancer to grow just because I felt okay after eating it.  Does that make sense?


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Absolutely it makes sense!

I'd say I'm more than 95% compliant. But I've got a weather eye permanently open for ways to survive outside my own kitchen when I have to. It doesn't happen often, but I like going out for meals with friends and family, and there will be avoids. There has to be a balance between mental health and physical health.

Some people have to be nagged to follow diets (my DH ahem!) I'm the anal retentive who has to be persuaded that it's OK to break it once in a while. But I don't want to ruin everyone's evening by being sick, so if I can "choose my poison" wisely if I have to, then that's better for everyone. I'm taking it for granted that if compliant food is available then I'll be eating it, however much I dislike it.


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Interesting happenings on this thread:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1217875410/s-new/#num7, check out Tom's comment !



Yes, that sure is scary !  If I were in that position it would mean I am in the wrong genotype and the diet is very different let alone the previous BTD  

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