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Squirrel
Monday, April 14, 2008, 1:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thank you ladies and gentlemen. I do appreciate your input, really.

Hmm. We've been in Singapore for over 3 years now so I'm used to being away from friends and family. My laptop is my lifeline! I like it here, and I've got used to the heat.

I've been forced to rest up for the last few weeks, but my energy, exercise and enthusiasm level is usually pretty good. I go for a brisk walk most days. The yum factor disappeared when I started the BTD in Jan 2007. I don't eat wheat, dairy or sugar as per O-non guidelines. My only regular "sin" is sometimes a little bit of soy sauce if I have sushi, and then I pop the Deflect. In fact I'm on Deflect twice a day anyway.

This evening I mashed up yesterday's leftover cooked salmon, made a perfect compliant mayonnaise and cooked up some pasta, mixed it all together and chilled it. I then sauted zucchini and sliced portobello mushrooms in olive oil with onion salt and black pepper, served hot, with a twist of freshly ground black pepper over it all. There was minimum preparation to dull my taste buds, it was new to me therefore creative, and I could tell it was really nice. DH called it "scrummy". And I couldn't even get my mouth to water! So sad. Oh and I'm not dehydrated either. I'm just confused.

(I'm just off to beyondblue...)


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Spring
Monday, April 14, 2008, 2:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Squirrel, you don't by any chance use gas to cook with, do you? Anything to do with gas in a house, whether it is used for cooking or heating and cooling, will send me into a depression immediately. I was just wondering about this since you seem to go downhill during your food prep. Sometimes we can spend years searching internally for the causes of depression when it is something external. Leaky plumbing under a sink can do the same thing because of the mold.
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italybound
Monday, April 14, 2008, 2:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Caz B
I'm not sure about the dairy but Dr D says in the Fatigue book that wheat and dairy are the 1st foods that must go.  


If I remember correctly, the are the first 2 to go for O's in all the books. Guess that tells us something eh?    I know they don't do me good.  



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Also, I would be into major detective mode to find out what is causing those mouth ulcers.
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Uh...yeah.  I will say this about my own experience with little water blisters in my mouth.  Even after--especially after--I started the BTD, I would get the water blisters after eating certain beneficial foods.  Walnuts, canned salmon, raisins, Ezekiel bead, honey, all sorts of good stuff would give them to me.  They'd last a few hours or a day and go away.  Since being on the Warrior diet they have stopped.  I don't guess I've had a single one.


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ABJoe
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Quoted from Squirrel
The yum factor disappeared when I started the BTD in Jan 2007. I don't eat wheat, dairy or sugar as per O-non guidelines. My only regular "sin" is sometimes a little bit of soy sauce if I have sushi, and then I pop the Deflect. In fact I'm on Deflect twice a day anyway.


Mouth ulcers are a real pain...  (pun intended)!  I used to live with them constantly, but recently have had very few.  I just got one last week that I am fighting right now.  What caused it?  Good question!  I have been eating per BTD/GTD guidelines since Feb. 2006, but still detoxing much built up garbage from pre-BTD, so the body pulls junk out randomly and creates grief just the same as if I had just eaten the avoid...


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italybound
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Quoted from ABJoe
...still detoxing much built up garbage from pre-BTD, so the body pulls junk out randomly and creates grief just the same as if I had just eaten the avoid...


my wonderful detox thing is smelling cigarette smoke..........uhhhhh.........gets that's not as bad as mouth blisters, but it gives me a headache and makes me feel really bad, just like I'd been exposed to it. Funny how all that works!



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jayneeo
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mouth ulsers....candida?
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Don't know.  I believe I still have systemic Candida, but it's getting better, as my skin indicates.

Squirrel, I know what you mean about the yum factor.  I really do.  Food is sometimes pretty unappetizing even when it's supposed to be good.  Usually I just salt it down really good and eat it anyway.  Another option is (I can't believe I'm suggesting this) to go off the diet for a few days or a week and see how horrible you feel, then you'll be so thankful to be back on your diet that it won't taste so boring after all.


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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Monday, April 14, 2008, 8:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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How about a little chocolate?  Always brings my mood up!  
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I was down in the dumps this morning, but still drank my usual whey protein shake with carob powder.  Nothing exciting, just habit.  I delved into work and forgot my troubles.  For lunch I had a salad of lettuce, broccoli, shredded mozzarella cheese, sliced roast beef and topped with olive oil and rice vinegar.  I drank Cranberry meets Raspberry juice.  Then driving home I started thinking of my issues again.  I was going to go exercise at least the upper part of my body since I have that stupid twisted knee (not what has me down), but I forgot my exercise bag at home.  My son just finished his taxes and asked me to look since they are due tomorrow (such a procrastinator).  So I talked myself out of going to exercise.  I should have, that raises the endorphin levels, but I didnt.  My son had some friends coming over, so didnt make dinner.  I knew had I to eat, but didnt feel like cooking.  No excitement about food.  I ate a handful of berries and munched on Laver Nori seaweed while my rice cooked.  Then I had the rice with ghee and sea salt.  Ill probably eat some mozzarella cheese later because if I dont have some protein Ill feel worse.  So Im good at giving advice, but not good about taking it.

Last night my son did make a yum dinner.  He made ground ostrich with onions, garlic, spelt noodles and a secret ingredient.  I gobbled it down and then he told me what it was.  The night before he had made a lamb roast and used the leftover drippings for gravy.


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JJR
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Wow, that sounded like a fantastic dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry that you're not feeling real up.  Maybe it's something physical.  Seretonin, Dopamine, those kinds of things.  I don't know, just throwing things out there.  I pray that you get better.  FWIW, I know how you feel.  I don't feel that way about food right now, but I don't have anywhere near the energy I'm used to having.


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RedLilac
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My problem is some major stressful issues going on in my life right now.  I went to the gym to exercise tonight and usually Im starving afterward, but a few nibbles satisfied me tonight.  I tried to do some lower body exercises besides the upper body ones tonight, but my knee is still not ready.  Sigh.


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