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 Nonnies, how do you rate your B.O.?
little to none (44 votes)
47.83%
better than average (20 votes)
21.74%
average (19 votes)
20.65%
worse than average (6 votes)
6.52%
very strong (3 votes)
3.26%
92 Votes Total Last vote Wednesday, September 3, 2014, 9:37am by slyparrot
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TJ
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Ok, this is sort of a gross-out question, but there is a reason behind it.  

Both my father and I have virtually non-existent BO.  Dad never uses deodorant, just baby powder under his arms after bathing.  I could do the same, but I don't like sweaty pits, so I use antiperspirant.  We can both go 2-3 days without bathing without smelling bad!  Not that I do that habitually, because I feel gross much sooner .

I used to think I just got lucky to inherit such good genes from dad, but now that I understand what it means to be a secretor or non-secretor, I think that ties into this picture.  LR4YT I believe mentions how bacteria in the digestive system eat our blood antigens, and I figured that bacteria outside the body might do the same, and since bacteria cause BO, and non-secretors don't have the nutritious sweat that secretors have, maybe being a nonnie means less BO.  (BTW, I don't know if dad is a nonnie, but maybe after seeing the results I will be better equipped to guess!)
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Hey......24 hours....I stink.
BUT....I use an herbal deoderant. Jason Jasmine, I believe is the brand.  I don't regularly use the aluminum stuff.
So, maybe that's why I stink a bit


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Interesting idea. Both my DH and I are non-smelly people in general, although his hair gets greasy if he doesn't wash it every day. No foot odour, no bad perspiration smells. And I have an inconveniently sensitive sense of smell so I'm really aware of these things.

Unfortunately I don't know the secretor status of any of my friends and relatives in real life.

And that gives me an idea for another nonnie vs secretor poll. Give me a moment....  


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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After many years of better eating, it is probably less than average. Before that, it probably was average to a lilttle above(as an adult).
BTW, I don't notice BO or bad breath on other folks as much.
I think we eat more fiber as a nation the past 20+ years, so we have better BMs, therefore less bad breath. I don't know if people shower more, as they did often in the past 40 years.
But I just don't notice much BO anymore.

When we were small children, we weren't taught to bathe often. But no one said we were stinky. Good thing! That would be a bad memory. In high school, I started showering daily. As a young adult, I would stink if I didn't(or went past the 24 hours). So, I'm sure I was toxic to some degree.
As I get older & my oily skin is more normal, I often soap the stinky areas & rinse the rest with water only. Like many folks nowadays, we shower in the morning. It gives more time to be publicly clean.
Interesting topic!
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Mrs. T, I don't bathe my children more than twice a week except during the summer when they get very dirty (with real dirt) every day.  I bathe the baby about once a week (I'm sure it'll be more than that when I start cloth diapering!!!)

I used to stink a lot as a teenager.  When I was about 20 I learned about natural herbal deo and tried it, but it would "wear off" in a couple of hours!  I had to alternate brands every other week or so just to keep them working.  Then I started on the BTD and I don't smell anymore.  Being a mommy with little ones, I don't always have the luxury of taking a shower every day [imagine standing in the shower with a baby sitting outside the door screaming, and your older children yelling at each other over a penny they found--it's better just to skip the shower].  Pre-BTD I woudn't have been able to do this!  Now that my body is clean and non-toxic, I don't smell.  In fact, my husband says I almost smell sweet.  "Earthy" he calls it.  "Herbal" my midwife calls it.  Natural deos work now.  I've been experimenting with baking soda, but it's a little harsh after a week or so, and my skin starts peeling.  I've experimented with straight lavender oil, but the same thing happens.  Baby powder has corn starch in it.  No thanks.

Drive, I was tempted to give you a long sermon about the evils of aluminum in deodorants, but I'm sure you've already heard it all.  So I won't bother.


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This reminds me how the girls next door when I was a kid said they used to use beer for shampoo!!!  I swear all kinds of weird things happened in the 70's.!!!!!


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Why beer?  Does the carbonation clean hair?  That's interesting....


ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.

"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."  I Corinthians 6:12

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I voted little to none.  I use herbal deodorant once in the AM, but if I forget no big deal.  I have to work up a big sweat to smell.  I attend exercise class after work and a normal routine doesnt make me smell.

I remember people using beer to wash their hair in the 70s also.  Also milk and eggs were suggested.  The egg brings out the red highlights in your hair.

Mrs T:  When I was growing up my Dad said not to wash everyday because it removed essential oils.


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I also have the oily hair.  I always wash my hair with soap/shampoo when I shower.  I soap up full-body every other shower, and just soap up my face and odor-prone areas on the other.  I never have foot odor, unless I step in dog poo!  All this has been true since long before beginning BTD.  I have also been told that my natural smell is nice/pleasant.

I hear you Ribbit, I really should ditch that aluminum stuff.  I'll get around to it eventually!
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beer soften and makes a shine
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I didn't bathe my kids often when they were really little. When they played in dirt, I did. Then at a relatively early age, they took our example & showered regularly.[I certainly didn't have the energy or skill to bathe a child/baby. It is very tiring, & they needed their oils!!]

I think that beer would make a good rinse, not a cleaning agent. Of course, rinse with water afterwards.

Sometimes I put melaleuca(tea tree oil) on my underarms.
If you are in a situation when you start stinking, wipe rubbing alcohol on your underarms. It probably isn't the healthiest thing, but will kill the germs. I quit the aluminum several years ago. I think I started needing deodorant at age 15.
RL, how nice not to have to deal with that! Someday there may be a book about nonnies, explorers, etc & various tendencies.
Cheerio,
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I voted little to none.  

I never smelled any perspiration odor  on myself until I was in my mid-thirties.  At that time, I had been eating a "heavy vegetarian diet for 13 years.  I was losing muscle tone and had put on several stubborn pounds.  I continued with this foolishness for another 10 years before discovering the BTD.  

My body odor has diminished to almost nothing.  Only if I am extremely upset or anxious will I notice any aroma.

I'm careful to wash my armpits very well every morning, and I use a castile soap with a little tea tree oil in it, just for pits and feet.  Then I spray with Benedetta brand The Best Deodorant.  It's herbal extracts in organic grape alcohol.
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Ribbit: I can laugh with you about your kids & not being able to take a shower. I do remember when it was a big ordeal to get the smallest chore done(like a shower or even just 'using the washroom'). I had non-sleepers & I used to need more sleep. I wish I knew more about diet then!
As I reread this thread, I noticed the lack of BO problems. Yeah, another good reason to go BTD!!!!!!!!!
S S & L,
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I voted "little to none", which is how it's been for years, BUT, have noticed quite a significant odour increase since starting the Explorer diet. Detoxing, I suppose and/or hormone re-balancing in action. If I can ever get to maintaining high compliancy for a lengthy period of time, would be interesting to see what happens next with that.


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Cider vinegar will soften and shine your hair too...but you'll smell like a salad if you get caught in the rain!

As for BO, it depends on what I'm eating. Since going veggie six months ago (type A), my BO has been mild. I can even go days without a shower...er, useful on a camping trip.
Before BTD, it was terrible.
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Okay, here's something totally unrelated that was in yesterday's  "human interest" section of the paper:

"I overheard my two young daughters talking to each other in front of my vanity table. My 5-year-old was explaining to my 3-year-old what all of the items were and how Mommy used them. She talked about lipstick and perfume and lotion. Then she picked up my deodorant and very seriously said: 'And this is what Mommy uses to grow hair under her arms.'"
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Quoted from 2732
'And this is what Mommy uses to grow hair under her arms.'


Hilarious!  Kids are so funny!
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Prior to the BTD i had BO but i wouldn't say it was bad.  I also used to use the standard store bought aluminum based deodorants.  Around the same time i started the BTD i also started to use a natural aluminum free deodorant.  I used the deodorant for awhile then noticed that my BO was almost non-existent without the deodorant.  Soo though i hate to admit it, i hardly ever use deodorant.  I use it on occasions like when i'm going out for the night or on really hot days.  I think mostly the BTD is the reason that i hardly have BO, though the natural deodorant may have something to do with it too.



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Actually, before I started the BTD I couldn't use either natural deodorants or natural shampoos.  I'd get terrible build-up in my hair and have to resort to chemical shampoos to get it all out.  The natural deos just didn't work and I'd have to rotate them often.  Now I can use everything natural (in fact, I try my best not to use anything on my body that I can't pronounce without hesitation).  I think I'll try beer in my hair.  It's pretty coarse.

Mrs. T, there was one evening when I'd had "one of those days" and my husband came to the table, sat down and--bless his caring heart--said, "So, what did you do today?"  I sat stunned and wide-eyed a second, debating whether to burst into tears or go off into a tirade about how underappreciated mothers are, then I looked at my beautiful family and grinned, "Yippeeee!"  I shouted, "I got dinner on the table!"  Everybody clapped and hollered and I felt very proud of myself.


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franklina,
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Thanks, Lola, I will do that soon.
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Hmm, I should have known that no one would vote that they are any worse than "average" .
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I'd vote "Worse than average" for one of my brothers!  Talk about a host of denied food allergies!


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Oh, getting off wheat and dairy got rid of the BO I used to have.  I'm sure it is the avoids acting like poisons and trying to exit the body somehow!!  

Going from a bit of a stinky to nil was one of the many benefits of this diet  

The body odour disappearing was just so amazing to me as no matter how much water or exercise I did in the past, I could not change the situation.  

Would being a nonnie make this moreso?  I don't really know...maybe it's how toxic you were (or are!)  
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Quoted from 2732
'And this is what Mommy uses to grow hair under her arms.'"



hee hee hee

Reminds me of one of my sisters teaching the colors to a younger sibling, pointing to a beige color and saying it was called "squishy." Too funny.
Thanks!


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Quoted from Ribbit
I'd vote "Worse than average" for one of my brothers!  Talk about a host of denied food allergies!


One of my brothers, too....


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Ribbit, you'll be happy to hear that I finally bought some baby powder today, and I'm gonna start using it in place of the aluminum-ridden antiperspirant I've been using.  Honestly, I think the stuff has been too effective.  When I exercise, I don't sweat a lot like I should, so I wonder if the junk has gotten into my system and is suppressing sweating all over, not just where it's applied.  Guess I'll see in a couple of weeks if anything changes!
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What's in the baby powder?


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Drive, did you ever try chlorophyll?
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The baby powder only has talc and fragrance.  I looked for fragrance-free, but couldn't find any.  I can barely smell it, so it's ok.  And, about the baby powder...I went back to my antiperspirant.  I was starting to smell myself, and it wasn't even getting hot yet.   I guess I wasn't as odor-free as I thought.  I'll have to figure out some other, natural way to deal with that later.  The antiperspirant doesn't cause my skin to break out or anything else weird, so I'm not going to concern myself about it right now.

I think my hypothesis about nonnies was wrong.  I forgot how much dead skin we shed daily, and when the bacteria have that to eat they don't need our blood antigens!
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Drive, did you ever try chlorophyll?


I haven't, just chlorella.
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Maybe as a compromise, you can use the anti-persperant only when you know you will be around others. If you know you will be home all day or just doing casual errands, you can do the powder or do tea tree oil like I do.
It also is so cold here, I wear several layers much of the year. I find that maybe only the first layer has a little odor
at the end of the day. That was a pleasant surprise!

Cheers! Here's to a sweet-smelling life!!
Mrs "T"   O+  


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Quoted from TJ


I haven't, just chlorella.


My mother-in-law used to use baking soda. She would have a rash from everything else. It helps deodorize refrigerators so I don't know why it wouldn't help! Whatever kind of powder you use, I would be careful about not breathing the stuff.
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Drive, did you ever try chlorophyll?


Chlorophyll is great for the breath.  When I used to smoke I took it regularly and one guy at work told me that I was the only one of the smokers in the office that he couldnt smell it on my breath.


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By far, the single best deodorant I've ever used is Green Tea & Clay deodorant from Pure & Basic:

http://www.luckyvitamin.com/item/?itemKey=71268&site=google_base
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This week I've done away with the antiperspirant again, in exchange for some plain old deodorant.  I'm sweating more (which I need to stay cool at work), but still not noticing any BO.  I'm feeling a bit better this week than last week, too, but there are too many variables in that equation to say why!  At any rate, that's one less source of toxins to worry about (i.e. the aluminum).
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Neat!  So the Nomad diet has done well for you in that respect.


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I use magnesium oil for deodorant...keeps me dry. I'm not a nonnie so I stink (lol), but if I'm not sweating,  then I'm not stinking. When I go to a party or somewhere I know people will be hugging me I wear deodorant.


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I'm a nonnie and I sweat up a storm and stink!  I voted average, though, because I think a lot of people stink . . . I have a super sensitive sense of smell.  I can smell bad breath and body odor on others when they seemingly have no idea they smell.  I should have been a dentist because I would not need to examine someone's mouth to know they need work - I can smell it.

I can even smell that "bedroom" smell on people.  They don't smell sweaty, just like they slept in their sheets and didn't shower.  

Sorry, but I often wonder if people who say they don't smell just can't smell themselves.  I am not talking about you folks here, as I believe a good diet can have a postivie impact on body odor.

I am running 4-5 times a week.  The other day I was doing laundry and usually it is my husband's workout clothes that really smell.  I was shocked to smell how badly my clothes smelled as well.  Maybe things will change the longer I am on the diet  


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Your exercise clothes probably had a few days to "ferment" before you did the laundry!
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Your exercise clothes probably had a few days to "ferment" before you did the laundry!


Ha, ha!!! You are so right! !!!     Boy, did they stink though.  Do you think I might begin to smell less when I have been on the diet for a longer time?  I have only been on the diet since mid-October, 2010, so less than a year.  I know many on this forum have been on it for years!  Is not being so smelly is something I can look forward to?  


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I think people smell worse when they're unhealthy, and have less body odor (and a more pleasant odor, at that) when they're healthier. It gets worse during "detox" phases.

I stopped using aluminum anti-perspirants years ago, but I still use crystal deodorant after every shower. I don't know how bad I'd smell if I skipped using it, but I don't really want to find out!

My daughters have never used the chemical anti-perspirants, only natural deodorants. My younger daughter can use any of them with no problems, but my older daughter needs to keep changing brands and styles because whichever one she chooses, it stops working after a few months. So she has about half a dozen deodorants in her room and she keeps alternating them.

I suspect that my older daughter is a nonnie and my younger is a secretor. They're both on the O secretor diet (when home; they both "cheat" when away from home overnight.) I suspect that my older daugter is inadvertantly ingesting toxins, which keep her body odor worse, while my younger daughter is on the "right diet" and smells less. At first I thought she smelled less because she was younger and hadn't gone through the smelliest phase of puberty yet, but at age 15, I doubt that's still the case.


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I don't know if my husband is a nonnie or not (he did have very bad tooth decay while growing up) but I am (& have an extremely sensitive nose) so even if he has been eating away from home for just one meal his sweat will be so different to what it usually is, that I can tell what he had for lunch by it...
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I voted averge, but thinking about this, it is only in summer, and only after a workout at the gym that I now feel I need deoorant at all. When we go camping (hiking, canoeing) and it is hot, I notice almost no body odour. My hubby, who does not follow BTD at all, has no body odour either.


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I am secretor so I did not vote.

I once read body odor was related to kidney detox.

I mainly post to mention that when my brother in law was having a heart attack it was impossible for me to greet him the two - three days prior. His smell was foul.
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Colodial silver sprayed under arms is a good deod. for some people.
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I've always believed body odor (under arms) was caused by bacterial or other microbial growth.  Why would nonnie's smell less?  Don't we nonnies have more bacteria growing on our skin than secretors?
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If this play a big factor on secrector and non. Then I`m approximately a secretor because of body odor. After playing tennis for an hour. I already smell something on my under arms.


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Nonnie here who doesn't even use deodorant because he doesn't smell anyway..
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Quoted from Amigalander
I've always believed body odor (under arms) was caused by bacterial or other microbial growth.  Why would nonnie's smell less?  Don't we nonnies have more bacteria growing on our skin than secretors?
Nonnies smell less because we need extra help in getting rid of the foul-smelling little animacles.



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Quoted from Amigalander
I've always believed body odor (under arms) was caused by bacterial or other microbial growth.  Why would nonnie's smell less?  Don't we nonnies have more bacteria growing on our skin than secretors?
My belief is that nonnies don't provide as much food for those stinky bacteria to eat because their BT antigens aren't secreted in sweat or skin oils.
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Quoted from Patty H

Do you think I might begin to smell less when I have been on the diet for a longer time?  I have only been on the diet since mid-October, 2010, so less than a year.  I know many on this forum have been on it for years!  Is not being so smelly is something I can look forward to?  

I think so.  



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Can I know some animacles that linger and feed with our bodies that create smell?

I want to have a deal with them .


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Depends on what I've been eating.  If I follow my food recommendations there is little to no BO and my hair is less oily.  I get stinky/oily if I chow down on gluten, dairy, and and/or beef.  (In fact, I just asked my husband to smell my hair this afternoon because I thought it was stinky!)


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I'm still a non-stinker since but use my essential oils as a form of prevention

but did you knew that we might be able to smell our futur *good fathers* while choosing our partners ....... this is what I found out also that men might commit terrible errors in using normal over the counter perfumes, insted of true creations for their individual needs as found in essential and oriental oils (which mostly all are organic)


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i voted little to none.

the only time i ever had a "really strong" odor problem was when i first switched from anti-perspirant to natural, non-aluminum deodorant. I figured it was a detoxing thing.

since then (and this was probably 20+ years ago now)... i have had only a very few instances where my scent was stronger than normal, although not terribly so. Each time, i had a few ingrown, underarm hairs. Once they were removed, and healing, the scent went away.


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Can I know some animacles that linger and feed with our bodies that create smell? I want to have a deal with them .


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I have never understood why someone would ever want to stop such an essential metabolic process as perspiration!


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I have never understood why someone would ever want to stop such an essential metabolic process as perspiration!
How about a lot of money making companies?   
I well remember the jingle in the late 60's: "don't wait to be told, you need palmolive gold" As kids we used to follow it up with our own version: "don't wait til you stink, you need palmolive pink" Shows how easy it was to indoctrinate society, even at primary school level, as to what is the new norm eh?

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I don't use deodorant unless I have a stressfull day ahead of me. Bronners lavender soap seems to linger on my skin all day, so that may suffice. I've asked trusted friends about having BO and the answer is no, so I know it's not just the inability to smell myself. I have a remarkable "palate" for both taste and smell, which creates problems for me sometimes dealing with chemicals, pets, mold and mildew, food smells, and just about any intrusive aromas. I've taken to carrying a small bottle of essential oil to gatherings where there are pets just to tolerate being around them. Yeah, it's weird, but I try to be discreet.
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I'm exactly the same... however also allergic to essential oils  
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I noticed that I did sweat a LOT more after I stopped using anti-perspirants. In fact, I was literally pouring sweat. A great detox!! After that, it decreased considerably.


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I have never had under arm odour and because of this have never had to use deodorant. Even with a nervous underarm sweat which I have had at times, there is no odour.  I am rh negative non secretor. My father was rh neg as well and also had no odour.   This 'condition' is something that has puzzled me for a long time.   When I reached puberty, I was upset because all of my girlfriends got to enter into the "now I am a woman" club and underarm deodorant was part of that.  Of course, I am very happy that I don't need to use it but I have always wondered why.


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All types of drinks with caffeine (diet coke included) make me sweat which is very frustrating!
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I voted little to none.  

My body odor has diminished to almost nothing.  Only if I am extremely upset or anxious will I notice any aroma.

CLICK


I'm the same, Victoria.  But I use the liquid rock crystals type deodorant once a week after my weekly bath.  Then for the rest of the week I daily wash myself thoroughly but avoid my armpits.  This phenomenon has happened only after following my diet closely and I love it!


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Interesting re sweat/body odour... I rarely *smell* except if I have eaten or been exposed to an avoid! Yesterday I used vinegar to clean the toilets (didn't touch it as such) but woke up with my armpits smelling slightly of vinegar...
Neither of us need to use much in the way of deoderant and if my husband eats out, he always omits a general (not unpleasant) body smell of the oils the foods were cooked in and/or the spices he doesn't usually eat!
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Yes, Possum, I've also noticed that.


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Possum, is your husband a secretor? I ask because it occured to me the other day that neither my wife or I (both nonnies) smell from garlic, or curry. And we eat copious amounts of garlic.
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dearle Averno perhaps only the third person remarked your garlic odors then by discussions ...oops sorry couldn't resist...


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dearle Averno perhaps only the third person remarked your garlic odors then by discussions ...oops sorry couldn't resist...


Oh noooo...

No, these are trusted friends who would speak up. BTW: It's always sautéd, never raw. Good digestion and hygiene plays a big part in this too, I think.

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I use plain deoderant, never antiperspirants for a good while.  When i was in high school i used anti perspirants and they made my armpits red and irritated.  

I came to believe even then that its important for me to sweat so i stopped using antiperspirants.  

If i don't wear deo i can go a few days before they smell like mexican food, regardless of what i eat.  It does not smell bad to me!
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I guess I'll post an update. I make deodorant strictly from Dollar Store mineral-oil based heavy hand cream (it's a big plastic jar) stirred in with a couple of tablespoons full of baking soda. I chose the mineral oil base because it does not penetrate the skin, and allows the soda to do its odor protection floating on top of the skin. When you rub it in it turns clear, so no telltale signs when wearing a sleeveless dress. When I launder clothes, there seems to be no problem with the cream washing off of the fabric - unlike human oil around the neckline  

Because the baking soda slightly interrupts the composition of the cream, odors do get absorbed into the soda. I have hormonal imbalance but the cream lasts all day when thoroughly applied. Usually when I am cleansing, I wind up with "one stinky armpit", being an Explorer. The armpit on the most sensitive side of the body. Lemon oil, orange oil, basil or lavender essences would be good to customize a fragrance on any given day, and extend protection.

I think the fact that Pears soap has sage oil and botanicals in it plays a great part in staying more fresh if I have to leave in a hurry without a true shower.

Dead skin cell removal is also important for a Nonnie to not get dull, odorific skin.


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cute..

I use baking powder under my arms.. even though I get soaking from hotflshes I do not have odors any place else.

I use Backing powder sine I had breast cancer.. should have done that way earlier.. Never gave it much of a thought.. Now I do and it works fine.... I can use a powderpuff for it.. never knew what to do with powder puffs before..  


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I think antiperspirant deodorants are the worst thing ever foisted off on the public as far as body care products go. I started using rock crystal deodorant a long time ago and sweated like crazy for about a week. It was literally pouring off me when I would be gardening. What a wonderful detox!! After that week I quit sweating as much as I had when I was using the horrible antiperspirant.  I can't help but wonder how much breast cancer that stuff has caused.


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Speaking of, I've noticed that it's harder for me to break a sweat these days, it's not oily and it doesn't smell. All good signs of successful detoxing. No more flashing, either. (Yes, overweight guys flash, too  )
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No more flashing, either. (Yes, overweight guys flash, too  )
lol Couldn't help laughing re the American use of the word flashing We describe breaking out in a heated sweat (usually with menopause) as 'flushing' Over here the word 'flashing' refers to exposing yourself in public  
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Non-secretor women smell amazing to me...


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lol Couldn't help laughing re the American use of the word flashing We describe breaking out in a heated sweat (usually with menopause) as 'flushing' Over here the word 'flashing' refers to exposing yourself in public  


Same here. Keep smiling  

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Possum, is your husband a secretor? I ask because it occured to me the other day that neither my wife or I (both nonnies) smell from garlic, or curry. And we eat copious amounts of garlic.
Just realised I hadn't ever seen/replied to the above Averno!! I don't know re him being a secretor or not?! He has always sweated (literally pours off/out of him) copiously during sport  - even if drying himself in a very hot climate after a warm shower...

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I voted little to none because I don't smell like others...doesn't mean I smell better though. I'm just totally aware of my smell and how it changes depending upon my diet, hormones & exercise. Admittedly I like to put my worn yoga clothes close to my nose to check them out. tmi.
I'm a quick acetylator too which is why I [believe] my skin/pee smells just a couple of hours after eating my fermented onions? Not appealing.
But for the sake of this poll, I'd say I do not have the typical B.O. in my pits.
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