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Jane
Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 4:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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One of my best friends got really upset with me one night when we were out because I had ordered something that I thought was benign and when it came it was covered with breadcrumbs.  I sent it back and just asked for a salad.  For some reason the waitress was upset and that upset my friend.  The cook came out and he was just terrific - no problem but my friend was upset that the waitress got upset.  I wasn't angry at her.  I should have asked more questions.
Oh well!
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Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 6:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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too funny Edna!!

I have learned to just simply skip the part about what people think or say about my food choices!!
Like in 'gone with the wind' ''I don t give a damn!!'' lol

there s an Argentinian place we like to go to, and I make sure I go pay a short visit to the very guy in charge of placing the cut of meat on the grill, before I walk down to my assigned table!!lol

he just smiles at me and says; ''no house seasoning right? just sea salt and fresh ground pepper!!!''
I really enjoy myself instead of having to suffer for someone else s mistake.
as my hub says: ''who cares what people say, they re going to talk anyways!!''


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Quoted from Lola
too funny Edna!!

I have learned to just simply skip the part about what people think or say about my food choices!!
Like in 'gone with the wind' ''I don t give a damn!!''

Well, I'm right there with you to a point.  I got there long about a few b-days ago when, as I posted about here, a few of my co-workers actually reduced me to tears with their pointed pressure to eat wheat, just when I REALLY didn't want to eat wheat.  Not only did they reduce me to tears, they did reduce me to eating wheat, not necessarily in that order (I think the wheat ingestion came before the tears).

After that sordid episode, I decided something.  I will never again allow ANYONE and/or any situation to make me feel that I have no choice but to eat what I don't want to eat again.  NEVER!  ...But then I remembered a previous lesson learned:  "never say never".  Never thought I'd visit, much less move to, Florida, but here I am, ya know?  So I can't say that I cannot envision a few situations in which I might feel pressured enough to eat wheat (I'm specifying "wheat" instead of "avoids", because usually wheat is the one I REALLY don't want to eat, and the rest of the world seems h*ll-bent on getting me to eat...but you could throw in corn syrup, too, as it is in EVERYTHING), because there might be a situation in which, indeed, graciousness would trump even my own health for that moment, but *****I***** and I ALONE will be the one to make that decision and it would be rare, rare, RARE for there to be a social situation in which there would be no gracious way to decline something that would hurt my health.  Because what I learned from the b-day episode is that being assertive doesn't mean that you aren't being gracious.  And being firm in a BOUNDARY you set doesn't mean you lack grace.  Oh no.  NO.  See, I've always had a HUGE problem setting boundaries, but something snapped in me at that office b-day party and it was like:  why did I let them do that to me?  NEVER again.  And I will use the word never when it comes to a situation like that one was, where they d*mn well should have known my diet restrictions or at least the Big One (no wheat) after all these YEARS!  I have NO PROBLEM saying tough toenails to them anymore.  You made that just for me?  You stayed up all night?  It's "rude not to eat what someone made you"?  I'd "better not even think about not having any?"  You can't let it go when I graciously take a piece "for later"?  Well:  TOUGH TOENAILS.  I ain't gonna be the one weeping in the ladies room again.  Too bad, so sad...NOT!  Long as I remain a wheat-lectin-free zone, it works for me.  Lay whatever trip you want/need to lay on me, I'm ready for ya.  I eat and don't eat what I choose to eat or not eat in any given situation?  Get it?  Got it.  GOOD.

("Oh no you di-unt!", you say?  Well, YES, I WOULD, if it ever comes to that again.  In the immortal words of my mom and possibly of the entire WWII generation:  You bet your sweet bippee!



"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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Novelia
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Hi everyone

I agree that you should never eat something that you don't want to eat. Being assertive can be done graciously, absolutely.

I offer a sincere 'thank you for thinking of me' statement along with something like 'so now there's more for everyone else to enjoy!' Any decent friend or person should be understanding when told that one's health is adversely affected if they eat gluten grains or whatever else. I sometimes have told people what happens to me if I do eat such things, if necessary. Also, sometimes I break out in cystic acne from some foods and people don't argue with that when they see it (ukk!), but of course it's convenient that my skin shows the issues. Most are not visible.

If people truly knew how bad wheat/gluten grains can be for some people - maybe *all* people when it comes to modern wheat - there would be no pushing. Funny, too, how not that long ago almost no one knew about the issues with trans fat yet the dangers were known about in the 40s. Of course almost no one was told. But there was little need, to be somewhat begrudgingly fair, because it wasn't in many foods back then. That sure changed.

Anyway, I find it interesting that Os are supposed to be more prone to binging. I'm A+ and I've certainly binged a lot in my life and so have other As I've known. Hmm! Maybe Os do it more?  



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If trying to make healthy choices in an unhealthy culture is obsessive, then color me unapologetically obsessive.


agreed!  
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Quoted from Novelia
I offer a sincere 'thank you for thinking of me' statement along with something like 'so now there's more for everyone else to enjoy!' Any decent friend or person should be understanding when told that one's health is adversely affected if they eat gluten grains or whatever else.


You're right, most of these nasty effects are not obvious except to the sufferer, but I find the implication that it might be an inconvenience to other people as well can help when making your case.

When I've been pressed to eat bad avoids ("oh surely a little won't hurt", "it's good to break the rules sometimes" and the guilt trips) and Novelia's appreciative noises weren't working, I've resorted to "you wouldn't want to make me throw up at your party now, would you?"

I got an alarmed face and "it wouldn't do that to you would it?" I said "let's not risk it, eh?" I felt a bit mean putting the guilt trip back on them, but I have to say it worked.

Wheat won't make me puke, and I never actually say it would, but the implication that I might make an unpleasant mess for someone else to clean up has always been enough.    


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.

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I can see the look on their faces!


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