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diffy
Sunday, September 16, 2007, 6:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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So in honor of my New Year (hebrew calendar) I figured how much can a bit of apple dipped in honey hurt? I took just a thin slice of apple, and dipped it just a bit in the honey and had only one honey cookie (gluten free, made with corn though) and just a spoonful of honey-carrots and the next morning I woke up with a painful throat, painful swallow, and painful ear!

Otherwise I have been 100% compliant for about two weeks. (Since I got my secretor-status results)

I am quite disappointed that just a little bit of non-compliance makes me feel so sick!
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Sunday, September 16, 2007, 6:34am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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dearest diffy,
when our bodies became *neat and clean* of avoids, we might react very very harsh when they get reintroduced; Peter wrote once (I don't remember if it was in E or LR4YT)....that those reactions are triggerd with the 500 x effect!!!! So I don't think that it is coz you've been acting in such a minuscule miscontentment to and with your habits; but as being nonnies, it is even worse and tougher especially with sugars
Better to get to your knowledge as early as possible, so no disappointment might occure .......
all the best for the 13. ...&Rosh......
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diffy
Sunday, September 16, 2007, 6:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I figured since I'm in a relatively better state of health that I can chance a piece of honeyed apple...but my guess was wrong.... Don't think I will attempt honey for a very long time now! Neither will I attempt a sliver of apple!
I think you're right, tis the sugars that are so viscious! Just remembered I had a bit of pomegranate too....it's a bennie...but the sugars are soooo bad for me....in fact my diet is basically devoid of any and all fruits! oh how I crave a fruit!
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diffy, some super red, fine fruity apples called Gala from New Zealand are quiet in my fridge.... I think
I'll have to cook em..............orrrr give em away .....perhaps would it help to add some pancreatic enzymes to our diets....so......hmmm.....those who are passing in the intestines, not by stomach activities, but then we've to take care about the *hog-issue* ......better to go for the plants .....
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Hey diffy...I can sympathize with you girl...honey...a big avoid for we nonnies.  Yes, our bodies are getting cleaned from the avoids of the world and once we do that it can take just a little bit of avoid to set it off again.  And as you stated...one slice of apple with honey, one gluten free cookie made with corn(another big avoid) and a spoonful of honey-carrots...for the O nonnie that is a big amount to take after being compliant.  Your body is reacting and trying to rid you of them.  Yes...sugar (honey) is like a poison to us.  I hope that you are feeling better soon.  If you can...do some O exercise to help sweat it out.

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the bacteria in your mouth and throat were fed with sugar and without antigens floating freely there's an ill effect.

try oil of oregano as a mouth wash before you go to bed...one drop in your mouth and swish with water and spit out


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Is there a link to tell me what and who oil of oregano is good for?  


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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Is there a link to tell me what and who oil of oregano is good for?  


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thanks


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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I maintain it's crazy a body should react so...when so many people out there can eat to their heart's content, and don't suffer the day after eating a bit of corn, a sliver of apple, and a dash of honey! It's not like I'm having licorice and chewing gum and gumdrops and fruit by the foot! Aarrgh!
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Ah...not so true diffy.  These people are suffering, but just don't know it.  Before BTD when I was eating all the wrong foods and having health issues from sinus problems, achiness, itchiness, etc... I just thought it was normal as they still do.

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diffy, I agree with Debra+, and thanks, mikeo, for the insight!
The corn in that cookie, and probably whatever oil was used to make it as well, would have had me suffering similar reactions. Corn does a lot more harm than we give it credit. IMHO
And, yes, it can be tough being a Nonnie Princess (or Prince.)


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When we all used to eat lots of avoids, our poor bodies didn't have many choices.  The better choice seemed to be "just adapt".  That's why we had no obvious reaction to things that wipe us out now.  But years of eating avoids without obvious reactions does not mean that damage is not being done to our bodies.  People who appear to be healthy, show up with horrible diseases, or "drop dead" from a heart attack.  Serious diseases develop gradually and then it can be very difficult to turn ones' health around.  

When we feed our bodies only what they need to be healthy, we are giving our bodies a choice.  If they can't handle something we are feeding them, they may tell us!  And the bargain is that we need to listen and respond appropriately.  



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I find that the more compliant I am, the worse I feel when I eat an avoid. I think of it as the more cleaned out my system is, the faster my system will alert me that an avoid has been detected.


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Happy Rosh Hashana Diffy...you're better off staying away from the avoids...they will do you no good...ever.  I've tried it a few times with coffee and I paid the price...I got constipated almost immediately.  
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I'm incredulous at how rebellious a body I have!  Kind of in line with my rebellious personality, lol
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Diffy, your body is smarter than you give it credit for.   And yes, I can see how you would call it rebellious....and a real pain.  
Sometimes, you just have to decide if the pain and irritation later is worth the momentary satisfaction.  And sometimes I must admit....I choose the latter.   And then my poor body is left to tell my silly brian why I don't eat that way anymore.  That's my rebellious self.

Tradition and eating go hand in hand, and it is so hard to have a holiday go by without your favorite things enjoyed.
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diffy
Monday, September 17, 2007, 2:38am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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If only it was about tradition, dear! Why, I can't have any apples all year long! My favorite fruit! sigh. I used to eat at least one a day! And honey on my buckweat, yum!
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apples all year long! My favorite fruit! sigh. I used to eat at least one a day!

.....and kept the Dr away, for sure!!


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hahaha Lola
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you see diffy, that's why we call us the *royals*......coz we are soo poor hitten with all those baddies
that it makes us strong in not getting into temptations temple ....and the biggest problem I see is, that we are educated with a certain habit for foods, preferences will popp in later......and now go for a
change ..... not that easy but with BTD I found out it wüürrrgs (works) more easily than with any other diet....... I grew up in mediteranian area....so I do still this cucina but let the AB-nonnie thing as best as I can away.....( I try it ) Fruits aren't the big problems to me; but white chocolate, sugars of all kinds I don't feel any itchy things but get fat in 5 minutes .....:p ......

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Fruits aren't the big problems to me; but white chocolate, sugars of all kinds I don't feel any itchy things but get fat in 5 minutes .....:p ......


That would be an interesting thing to observe.  5 minutes, and . . voila!  FAT!  

(Just kidding, Isa!!)  



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That would be an interesting thing to observe.  5 minutes, and . . voila!  FAT!  

(Just kidding, Isa!!)  



Must be like when we O's eat wheat and it feels like every cell in your body is about the explode from bloatedness.  

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diffy
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OH yes! I can attest to that! You gotta come see it to believe it: Whether it be a fruit, ice cream, cookies/cake....with every bite I take, as it makes its way down my esophagus and into my tummy you can actually see my tummy expanding. It is so not a joke, it is so very real! Yet it does sound funny I know...
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I get the sore throat reaction from corn every time.  I found that out even before I discovered ER4YT.  That is one of the reasons I believe in this so much.  I put on some lipstick once and immediately got a sore throat.  I checked the ingredients and sure enough there was corn oil in it. Now I check everything I put on my skin or into my stomach. I do have an occasional apple but don't have a severe reaction to it.  I certainly feel better when I avoid all sweeteners, except the occasional use of Agave Nectar.
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