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AmyH
Tuesday, July 31, 2007, 10:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just got my test results and Im an O non-secretor. I have been following the BTD for a few years and wanted to take it to the next level.

Is is just me or are there a lot less foods on the Beneficial list for O nonnies???

I had read in somebodys thread about the top 10 Benificials for O nonies but can't seem to find the link.

I've started going through the Food Values list on this site, but it will take me days to go through every food..so...anybody have ideas on the 10-15 best O Nonnie foods to eat. I'd really like to stay true to the diet as much s possible to see if I feel a difference. I'll slowly get through the list...unless somebody has the list already seperated or knows where I can git it???

Thanks and looking forward to joining the O nonnie team!

Amy


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add the nonnie status to your shield in member center.....


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yeeeehhaaaa another nonnie welcome in our royal club
fine to get to know what we are able to do for our healthconcerns on different levels
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Amy,

Welcome to our secret society.  Please join us tonight at midnight, beneath the giant stone owl in front of the bonfire.  And wear a Davey Crockett hat.
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AmyH...welcome to the forum and great that you have been doing the BTD way of life for a few years. Yep...I know how you feel. I did my first two years as a secretor and once I got my nonnieness figured out it was like...okay...what can I eat now. Avocados darlin'...and mangos...and bananas...Wait!!...let me get my nonnie wallet card. You can pick one up through NAP for a few dollars and carry it wherever you go. It is great.  Everyone slide over one seat...and I see you have met our royal greeter of the day Ron-O-Non and the royal nonnie queen Isa.

Meat and Poultry...beef, buffalo, mutton, ostrich, partridge, pheasant, rabbit, squab, veal, venison, heart/sweetbreads

Fish and Seafood...cod, hake, herring (fresh), mackerel, perch (all types), pike, sardine, shad, sole, sturgeon, swordfish, tilefish, trout (rainbow), yellowtail

Dairy and eggs...none...that means ice cream too.

Beans and legumes...none

Nuts and Seeds...pumpkin seed, walnut (black english)

Grains and starches...essene bread (manna bread)

Vegetables...artichoke (domestic, globe, jeruselum), beet greens, broccoli, carrot, chicory, collard greens, dandelion, secarole, fiddlehead fern, garlic, ginger, horseradish, kale, kelp, kohlrabi, okra, onion (all kinds), pepper (red cayenne), pumpkin, seaweed, spinach/spinach juice, swiss chard.

Debra




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Arrrggghhh...I just typed the second half and forgot to post reply...here it goes again.

Fruits and fruit juices...avocado, banana, blueberry, cherry(all), cherry juice (black), fig (fresh/dried), guava/guava juice, mango/mango juice, pineapple juice, plum (dark/green/red), pomegranate, prickly pear, prune/prune juice

Oils...olive, almond, walnut

Herbs, spices and condiments...basil, bay leaf, curry, dulse, fenugreek, licorice root, oregano, parsley, saffron, tarragon, yeast (brewer's/nutritional)

Beverages...club soda, seltzer water, tea (green), wine (red)

On the other side of the card is a whole slew of Avoids.   Those you can check on typebase.  Just remember...even more grains and sugars have become avoids.    Like Ron-O-Non once said...'sugar is our poison'.

I hope this helps you out AmyH.  Pick up a wallet card...it is so easy to carry around.  Keep us posted on your progress.  And...go and visit the nonnieland threads.

Debra


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Debra,
great list, at a glance!
thanks!


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AmyH
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That was a great list, THANKS! I just ordered the pocket list from NAP to have handy...actually a few for every bag! I'm going to try to do my best. What I find the hardest is as "just basic O" those foods that were Nutural to secretors and are now Avoids for Nonnies...

Time...patientce....


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win some, loose some!!!
hope you like avocados!


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Welcome to the table Amy. I see you have your Davey Crockett hat on!! You may find that you miss 1 or 2 things, but adjusting to being a nonnie is pretty easy...except for the soy milk and apple thing

Nonnies are a wonderful bunch, better than a walking encyclopedia!!  I am not sure a question has been asked that they have not found an answer for!!

Nice to have you with us!
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There are days when I look at my nonnie list and sigh, and pout, and I think back to the days of warm, stretchy cheese, brown bread, spaghetti dripping in tomato sauce....now I can't even eat sunflower seeds FOR PETE'S SAKE.  But you know, I feel so much better now that I don't eat all those things, that it's worth the sacrifice.  I made a list, once upon a time, of all my physical complaints.  Nearly every single one of them is gone now.  And for that I am very thankful.


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you must feel very proud of yourself for what you have achieved!!


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Thanks, Lola!  I hadn't thought of it that way!  I thought the diet had achieved it for me.  But no, I achieved it through the diet.  Cool!  Speaking of Davey Crocket, we're all "kings of the wild frontier!"


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I am a bit unclear on debra+'s list. Are you looking only at beneficials? Food selections such as eggs are not avoids, but neutrals and quite convenient too when eating out.


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true Ribbit!
we do the work, according to Dr D!!


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I bet nobody knows what my "giant stone owl" comment refers to... Ha ha ha ha
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So tell us, Ron.  Is that where your polar bear is headed?


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Quoted from Howard
I am a bit unclear on debra+'s list. Are you looking only at beneficials? Food selections such as eggs are not avoids, but neutrals and quite convenient too when eating out.


Yes...Howard...it is only the beneficial list according to the wallet card.   There were too many neutrals for me to start typing.   That is why the wallet card comes in very  handy.  It only has beneficials and neutrals on it.  Everything else is avoid or not tested.

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If I had to guess I would be a nonnie -O.  Every time I eat soy I get gas!!! I decided to go ahead and get the kit for secretor status, but the site keeps not letting me register.  I guess I could call the toll free number.  Does anyone know it?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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If I had to guess I would be a nonnie -O. Every time I eat soy I get gas!!! I decided to go ahead and get the kit for secretor status, but the site keeps not letting me register. I guess I could call the toll free number. Does anyone know it?


1-877-226-8973   or 877 ABO-TYPE

Much success!



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Essene bread is listed as a bennie (or neutral, can't recall) for o nonnies. But what about someone who has a gluten allergy? Will the gluten allergy disappear after adherence to the btd? And then I would be able to eat essene bread? I do awfully awful on carbs such as bread (even gluten free varieties); i get gassy and bloated and fatigued....  Can I expect the same if I eat the essene bread?

Anxiously awaiting my secretor test results, but I am 100% positive that I'm a non-secretor.
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the gluten is still present in the sprouting process........not a good choice for you in that case.

it is the WGA that is taken care of, and that is the reason why sprouted breads become beneficials for those not having a gluten intolerance or celiac.
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive6/config.pl?read=19656


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the gluten is still present in the sprouting process........not a good choice for you in that case.

it is the WGA that is taken care of, and that is the reason why sprouted breads become beneficials for those not having a gluten intolerance or celiac.
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive6/config.pl?read=19656


What is a "WGA" please?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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What is a "WGA" please?


Wheat germ agglutinin. (Lectin)
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