Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Lifestyle    Nonnie Clubhouse  ›  Nonnie Blood Too Thick?
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 1 Guests

Nonnie Blood Too Thick?  This thread currently has 914 views. Print Print Thread
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Ronagon
Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 7:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
I read in one of Dr. D's reports somewhere that non-secretor blood was actually thicker and more prone to clumping and, therefore, heart attack and cerebral hemorrhage.  Do I understand this correctly?

I mean, I understand that O secretors tend to have too thin blood, but do O-nonnies have too THICK blood?  Should we be ingesting natural blood thinners like vinegar or something?
Logged
E-mail E-mail
Lola
Wednesday, April 25, 2007, 4:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,358
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
following your nonnie guidelines is the safest.......
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/10.html
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/8.html

and some reinforcement in certain protocols, perhaps....


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 1 - 16
Sunny
Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 11:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Dear Ron,
I'm an A nonnie and was tested at a lab that specializes in clotting disorders. They found high fibrinogen levels and suggested heparin injections which made me feel better except for the hugh lumpy bruises on my abdomen from the shots. After a month I stopped the injections. I'm thrilled to find a diet that may help my situation.
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 2 - 16
Lola
Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 11:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,358
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
practice your cortisol lowering calming exercises!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 3 - 16
Ronagon
Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 11:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Sunny,

Whoof.  I'm glad to hear you stopped those injections.  Nasty.  Another thing they give to prevent clots is coumadin, which is just rat poison that kills rats by causing them to massively hemorrhage.
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 4 - 16
Shane Girl
Thursday, June 28, 2007, 12:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted from Ronagon
Sunny,

Whoof.  I'm glad to hear you stopped those injections.  Nasty.  Another thing they give to prevent clots is coumadin, which is just rat poison that kills rats by causing them to massively hemorrhage.


Yes, that's exactly what it is...rat poison...but...when a person is hospitalized with a blood clot that could kill them, and have no motivation to change their diet, or no education to know that they can...sometimes coumadin is the only option to keep them alive.
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 5 - 16
dawgmama
Thursday, June 28, 2007, 12:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT% 44% Explorer
Ee Dan
Posts: 545
Gender: Female
Location: Wisconsin-near Milwaukee
Age: 54
I unfortunately know from experience how thick A nonnie blood is! About 12 years ago I had a DVT in my left calf that landed me in the hospital on bed rest for 8 days! They thought then, that it was because my job was as a horse-shoer(farrier) and they(the docs) thought holding the hoof between my knees cut off the circulation enough to form a clot. I personally thought it was from planting shrubs in our hard Wisconsin clay and jumping on the shovel, traumatizing my leg. Perhaps, as a stay at home mom of two little kids, trying to do it all,  my cortisol levels were sky high, leading to my blood clot? That was pre-BTD, and I am hopeful that by eating right, I can avoid ever having THAT again!!


"Be as gentle as  possible, and as firm as necessary".   Tom Dorrance-the 'father' of natural horsemanship

How true, for life, parenting, horse and dog training!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 6 - 16
ISA-MANUELA
Thursday, June 28, 2007, 9:34am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
I'd recommend fishoils for A's and AB's......dito Ginko or dong quai does the same thing....blood thinning ........especially if you are sitting the whole day long in an office ........
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 7 - 16
Vicki
Thursday, June 28, 2007, 1:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Using Custom SWAMI Food List
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 3,852
Lots of fishes move to beneficial for A non-secretors.  
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 8 - 16
Ronagon
Friday, June 29, 2007, 12:20am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Shane,

Point taken.  Thank you.
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 9 - 16
Sunny
Friday, June 29, 2007, 2:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
I take nattokinase as well as CoQ10 and an E plus selenium for my blood and heart. I feel especially good when I take the CoQ10-not sure why, but I can tell a difference when I run out!
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 10 - 16
Peppermint Twist
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 1:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,136
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 53
Quoted from Ronagon
I read in one of Dr. D's reports somewhere that non-secretor blood was actually thicker and more prone to clumping and, therefore, heart attack and cerebral hemorrhage.  Do I understand this correctly?

I mean, I understand that O secretors tend to have too thin blood, but do O-nonnies have too THICK blood?  Should we be ingesting natural blood thinners like vinegar or something?

No, dude!  No, no, no, look at it this way:  O's (in general) have naturally thinner blood.  So one of the few GOOD things about nonniehood for an O (I pity the poor A nonnies) is that the nonnie tendency towards thicker blood mitigates the O tendency towards thinner blood.  So, us O nons come out just about even *lol*!!!!!!

Besides, I also take it to mean that salmon--which used to be listed as an O beneficial but in later books slid to neutral, I opine due to its blood-thinning properties, is back to BENEFICIAL for us O nons (day-uuum, that is the second time in recent days I have unilaterally issued a decree changing the status of a food on the diet *lol*:  it's good to be P-Twist!!!).

Seriously, I think the thick-nonnie-blood thing is a PERK for us O's.  It cancels out the thin O blood thing.

Now, if I were an A nonnie?  Yeah, I'd be hitting the fish oil pretty hard.





"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 11 - 16
Peppermint Twist
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 1:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,136
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 53
P.S.  About coumadin:  I seriously live in fear that one day I will be rushed to a hospital, unconscious, and they will for some unknown reason administer this to me.  I have a structural prob due to my nasal septum being butchered (LONG story) and am thus terrified that I would hemorrage to death from my nose if anyone ever administered blood thinners to me.

See, I never run out of things to worry about.  I always have a few tucked away in the wings.


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 12 - 16
Peppermint Twist
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 1:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,136
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 53
P.P.S.  I agree with Isa, as I mentioned in my first post:  A nonnies would do well to consume fish oil on a regular basis.  The best form is from eating richly-oiled, cold-water fish, such as and especially WILD (never farmed!!!!) salmon.  But if I were an A non, I might consider taking a high-quality fish oil supplement, too.


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 13 - 16
bo
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 11:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Quoted from Edna

No, dude!  No, no, no, look at it this way:  O's (in general) have naturally thinner blood.  So one of the few GOOD things about nonniehood for an O (I pity the poor A nonnies) is that the nonnie tendency towards thicker blood mitigates the O tendency towards thinner blood.  So, us O nons come out just about even *lol*!!!!!!

Besides, I also take it to mean that salmon--which used to be listed as an O beneficial but in later books slid to neutral, I opine due to its blood-thinning properties, is back to BENEFICIAL for us O nons (day-uuum, that is the second time in recent days I have unilaterally issued a decree changing the status of a food on the diet *lol*:  it's good to be P-Twist!!!).

Seriously, I think the thick-nonnie-blood thing is a PERK for us O's.  It cancels out the thin O blood thing.

Now, if I were an A nonnie?  Yeah, I'd be hitting the fish oil pretty hard.




ok you got me worried why do you  pity the poor A nonnies??????????


Revision History (1 edits)
bo  -  Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 11:13pm
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 14 - 16
Lola
Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 3:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,358
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
Quoted Text
why do you  pity the poor A nonnies??

thicker blood than A secretors.......and fish oil helps liquidize the blood......besides the right lifestyle and cortisol lowering techniques, etc.



''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 15 - 16
Peppermint Twist
Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 2:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,136
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 53
Quoted from bo
ok you got me worried why do you  pity the poor A nonnies??????????

Oh, within the context of the quoted sentence, I was just alluding to how A nonnies really drew the short straw on the blood thickness spectrum.  Type A blood is already thick and then you add nonniehood to that and, well, you've got a slurry on your hands *lol*!  BUT, the news is not bad, because we are blessed to know how to eat right for our types, and a little fish oil daily and an A nonnie will be good to go, with de-slurrified blood, plus all the other added benefits of fish oil.  So, no worries, mate, sorry if my little parenthetical quip got you concerned!

A fish oil capsule a day keeps the thick blood away!



"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 16 - 16
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Lifestyle    Nonnie Clubhouse  ›  Nonnie Blood Too Thick?

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread