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Shel
Wednesday, March 28, 2007, 1:23am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi everyone,

Do any A Nonnies here have problems with whey protein isolate? My A Nonnie friend and I don't tolerate it, and wonder if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions.



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whey is an avoid for most, check it out in typebase.


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Hi everyone,

Do any A Nonnies here have problems with whey protein isolate? My A Nonnie friend and I don't tolerate it, and wonder if anyone has any thoughts or suggestions.




I do not have problems with it, but I have a multitude of problems with soy protein isolate. Have you looked for other avoids, does it contain soy?


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I would cognizant that it is from a clean source, gmo-free, and it is favorable if it is organic.  Alot of conventional dairy products contain pesticides, growth hormones, chemicals, toxins.

These items all get digested with consuming conventional dairy and all of its by-products.

Alia


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Shel
Thursday, March 29, 2007, 5:58am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thank you for the responses so far. It doesn't contain soy and is quite pure. He gets headaches from it, even at low doses. Organic vs non organic doesn't seem to be an issue with this. Any more thoughts?

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ISA-MANUELA
Thursday, March 29, 2007, 10:17am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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 I observed that a lots of my A nonnieclients do have problems with any kind of soyproducts and dito some of them do have problems with  whey protein......the only thing which helps .....just don't eat it anymore ........it seems your body rejects it.......sorry .......tricky individualists
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Perhaps try making a smoothie or shake using a whole foods base, instead of whey powder: whole eggs, nuts/seeds, nut butter, or an compliant protein source, add fruit and anything you desire.

Soy protein isolate is a highly refined food item that may cause stomach disstress for some individuals, this may be similar to the processing of whey.  

I do not utilize whey, since it's an avoid for A secretors.

Alia



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Wednesday, June 27, 2007, 11:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Whey protein isolate makes me have sharp stabbing pains in my abdomen. I do better with Rice protein powder, but usually all of the protein powders are too intense for me. I have to stick to whole natural foods to make smoothies with.
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btw....I use goat whey since a little while and it is phantastic......without lactose.....yummy in taste......good for my early morning breaky...... better results than with the soyprotein...... .....
and no -feeling after .........
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Isa, which goat whey product are you using?  I just ordered a large container of Mt. Capra mineral whey, which is a whole goat milk whey product.  No isolates for me!  I really believe that whole foods are best.



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Don
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For those that are interested here is the Mt. Capra Wholefoods Nutritionals Website.


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ISA-MANUELA
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he-he-heee just wanted to ask for furthe infos' about that stuff thanx MoDon

ahem Victoria, I do get problems in larger amounts with normal milk or other milkproducts because of
being lactoseintolerant .....and to much of fats.....nothing for me either ......but I can recommand the link for europeans who won't find something similar here on that continent ....
btw I use ORYX its' low in carbs,low in glyx,no sugars,low in fat has a high biological value and has one of the best of immunglobulines,  and no lactose...... what can I do better for my NK cells .....
http://www.vyotech.com

btw.....I got a super info from Dr. Uhlenbruck about a similar product but this is to be payed in € and it becomes much more expensive, and here sugars are in & honey
nothing for nonnies either

and best of best is, both products are helping to maintain (in my case to get back )
shape control.....but might also be used for very sick peoples to get stopped kachexie......and that's very important.... I just gave one of my kilopacks to the client B Rh+ ( I bet he's a nonnie ) here in Zürich, he loves the taste and weew....after the second day he begun to reverse his weightloss and now we are going to stabilize it

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btw I use ORYX its' low in carbs,low in glyx,no sugars,low in fat has a high biological value and has one of the best of immunglobulines,  and no lactose...... what can I do better for my NK cells .....
http://www.vyotech.com

Other Ingredients: Proprietary blend of Goat Milk Whey Protein (Goat Milk Whey Isolates, Goat Milk Whey Peptides, Goat Milk Whey Concentrates, Cocca, Lecithin & Prosucro.

The product is sweetened. I contacted the company many months ago about the Prosucro ingredient to confirm that it was sucralose/spenda. They said yes.

Therefore, I stopped considering the use of the product.

I also asked them if they would consider making a unsweetened version of the product and they replied:
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We are looking into that. It's hard though, because goat whey doesn't taste very well at all.




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I'll let you all know how the Mt. Capra Whey tastes.  It's due to arrive early this week.



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What was your reasoning to get the Capra Mineral Whey product versus either of the Caprotein or CapraMilk products? In other words, why the minerals versus the protein or whole goat milk products? Do you need the extra calcium or potassium?


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as being a nonnie, my dearle MoDon, I am ready to accept this splenda thingy instead of any other normal sugars ......


btw. I just googled splenda & sucralose....and found two complete different stories about that stuff...those tell ya that it is without any importance of any danger....and in the  other article...there are some warnings in....tell me dearle to whom might I believe........ ......

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What was your reasoning to get the Capra Mineral Whey product versus either of the Caprotein or CapraMilk products? In other words, why the minerals versus the protein or whole goat milk products? Do you need the extra calcium or potassium?


You're "Da Bomb", MoDon!    That's a great question, and the truth is that I wasn't aware that the company made those other products.  I ordered from another site that had a very good price.

I would not get the CapraMilk, since I buy fresh goats' milk from a local farmer and make my own yogurt from it.  The Caprotein is a product that I will definately keep in mind when I need a protein supplement.  It looks like a fantastic and very pure product.

Actually right now, I need the minerals and electrolytes from the Mineral Whey because I have been dealing with an excessive amount of stress and fatigue.  



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ISA-MANUELA
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Madl...why don't you want to give Enada NADH a try...it's really amazing.......
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Oh Isa,
I forgot to tell you . . I bought some Enada NADH, and it is truly amazing stuff.  Thank you so much for the recommendation to try it.  I bought it 2 weeks ago because of your wonderful reports on it.  

Yay!  



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got a brand?


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thweety...did you know that this stuff is one of the rarest to go for DNA and cell repair and it takes a little time and then your re-become the energy-bombe ......in 99 it helped me tremendiously to come out of this severe depression and energylack as well....I took it more than 1,5 years.......hope my restoration is perfect right now.......
I took it from *Vitamin World* and other brands, mustn't be that expensive...BUT have an eye on the stuff...it MUST be stabilized...if not...no results .....I took 10mg's in the morning onto empty stomach and 10mg's in the afternoon.......but perhaps for others are 10mg's just in the morning enough....depends on the issue working on you

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I'm taking Source Naturals, I believe.  But there were a couple of brands in the HFS.  The important thing seems to be that it is Enada and not just NADH.  I think that is what Isa is referring to.  It is powerful, and is not speedy like caffeine.  It just gives stable energy.  I hope it works as well for all the other blood types.

It has been one supplement that stands out for me as really working!



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hello Victoria, yeppers it is completely different from any kind of  pushy...pushy things, we can't compare it to that....it is the zip-zap for the energy levels...key for building up the ATP....= cell energy ....completely inocif and it works for every type .......it is nothing else but a B3 derivate....stabilized to a form of a coenzyme....called coenzyme A .....and I think, that here also the
question of a +++ of electrons is the key function .......
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great!


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