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Just had some random passing thoughts about nonniehood and thought I would throw something fun out there for us.  If you can think of more "You might be a nonnie if's" just add them on!  Have a great weekend all my special nonnie friends (and of course you wonderful secretors as well!)  

You Might Be A Nonnie If:

1.  Your standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food just to get people off your back has become "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

2.  Foods that others consider wonderful, tasty treats look more like rat poison on a silver platter.

3.  You've been accused of being a little overly sensitive and cautious about food and life in general.  Can we say hypochondriac, anyone?

4. You can feel the presence of an avoid around you like a 6th sense.  (Where is that pesky breadcrumb hiding?  Why, I oughta...)  Before an avoid even enters your mouth, you are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that."

5.  Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

6.  You are a little envious of others who can rake in the junk, never get sick a lick, and then look like they just walked off the runway, yet you are so thankful that eating healthy and living right will increase your lifespan and enhance your overall life in general.  You are thankful that its "in your blood" to be the way God made you!

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These ponderings be applied to our secretor community, as well.

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You might be a nonnie if...

You have perfected the art of baking with vegetable glycerine and nut flours.


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Kate,
we re all ears for some of your personal ' art of baking' recipes!!! lol


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There are plentiful in Typebase - my own creations have my name in the title, but some are from the Nonnie Recipe group or modified from online or books.  Check out recipes under chocolate, bananas, sweet potatoes, almonds...


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thanks!


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Those folks who eat the junk & look great will not look great in middle age.
Then they will blame it on hormones, general aging, stress, etc,----but not diet.
We all have those things, but diet as well as other good habits sure slow them down.
We hopefully, don't gloat.  We thank God for the wonderful info we have recieved!
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Quoted from Tina
You Might Be A Nonnie If:

1.  Your standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food just to get people off your back has become "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

2.  Foods that others consider wonderful, tasty treats look more like rat poison on a silver platter.

3.  You've been accused of being a little overly sensitive and cautious about food and life in general.  Can we say hypochondriac, anyone?

4. You can feel the presence of an avoid around you like a 6th sense.  (Where is that pesky breadcrumb hiding?  Why, I oughta...)  Before an avoid even enters your mouth, you are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that."

5.  Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

6.  You are a little envious of others who can rake in the junk, never get sick a lick, and then look like they just walked off the runway, yet you are so thankful that eating healthy and living right will increase your lifespan and enhance your overall life in general.  You are thankful that its "in your blood" to be the way God made you!

 


Oh my goodness, Tina, that is a great post!  Aaaah ha ha ha ha haaaaa!  So funny because it is so true!

*tee hee HEE*


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YES and amen! Always feeling that one has to work twice as hard to get half as far.

Diane

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Thanks for the encouragement, Miss PT... sometimes I get so weary, feeling different and alone, but this friendly community always boosts me up.


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5.     Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

Could you elaborate on this one?  It sounds like you just quoted my Father; I NEVER could chew quietly enough for him.  Are our senses heightened because we’re nonnies?  I like bland food because tastes come across so strong.


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right, the hypersensitivity!


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Yeah, I want to know more about this too.  My siblings always told me, growing up, that I was too sensitive to everything physically and emotionally, but I couldn't help it!  I couldn't help it that I was either too hot or too cold or that all shoes were too tight or that waistbands itched or my hair tickled my face or that the insides of my cheeks itched.  I'm still hyper-sensitive to sound (I either hear it too loudly or I don't hear it at all) and temperature (low thyroid talking) and the words people say to me (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?)....but I'm better now that I have the BTD.  And I get better the older I get.

I have two to add:

You might be a nonnie if......you people-watch just to try to diagnose their food allergies based on the color of the bags under their eyes and where they wear their fat.

You might be a nonnie if......you can accurately guess your friends' blood types based on their health complaints.


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WOW!  Although not tested, I BELIEVE I am a nonnie; and reading this post pretty much convinces me.  

The sensitivity part really hits home, boy.  I find the new headlights in cars too bright and am blinded by them when I drive at night;  have to protect my eyes when approaching them - and that's kinda dangerous!  Also, cannot handle any wheat, be it kamut or spelt; nor most sugars, including honey, agave, maple syrup.  Ingesting any of the aforementioned sends me into such an emotional tailspin, it takes days to become balanced again.  (I swear, it's how my recent "relationship" fell apart . . . had some food that had sugar in it over Christmas and became weird and emotional . . . well, weirder than normal . . .   . . . )


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WOW!  Although not tested, I BELIEVE I am a nonnie; and reading this post pretty much convinces me.  

The sensitivity part really hits home, boy.  I find the new headlights in cars too bright and am blinded by them when I drive at night;  have to protect my eyes when approaching them - and that's kinda dangerous!

Stormy, just wondering, have you ever been diagnosed with rosacea?  This is a pretty mysterious disease which they don't really know the cause of, but it apparently can have one or several combinations of different causes and it certainly can present with different symptoms and progress or not progress along in different ways in different people.  I've been diagnosed with it myself.  In case you are not familiar with it, the vastly oversimplified and overly-generalized description is that your face would most likely sometimes "flush" red in certain situations.  But another thing with rosacea can be that it can have ocular involvement, which they call "ocular rosacea".  I have not been diagnosed with that part, yet I do have a sensitivity to bright light, just as you describe.  The way you describe yours just made me want to ask if you do have rosacea.  If so, you may have "official" ocular involvement or you may just have more sensitivity to light than most people, as I do, which I suspect is all tied in with the rosacea, even though I don't officially have ocular involvement.

If you read this and think you might have rosacea, relax, as being on the BTD is one of the best things you can possibly do for it.  In fact, that is all I do for mine, other than now trying to stay out of the direct sun, which is a tall order in Florida.  I'm lucky because I seem to have a rather mild case that is not progressing much, if at all, in the past few years.



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Ack!  The sensitivity!  I remember as a kid the trouble my mother had with me when it was time to buy new shoes.  NOTHING was comfortable.  Shoe shopping was such an ordeal.  And keep that scratchy wool ten feet away from my skin.  I almost jump out of bed every morning when the hot water heater in the closet clicks on.    Oh.....I could go on.

You know your a nonnie if...

The aroma of crispy, hot bacon makes your body swell.


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Stormy, how familiar to me


You experience similar symptoms to wheat and sugar??


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Stormy, just wondering, have you ever been diagnosed with rosacea?  This is a pretty mysterious disease which they don't really know the cause of, but it apparently can have one or several combinations of different causes and it certainly can present with different symptoms and progress or not progress along in different ways in different people.  I've been diagnosed with it myself.  In case you are not familiar with it, the vastly oversimplified and overly-generalized description is that your face would most likely sometimes "flush" red in certain situations.  But another thing with rosacea can be that it can have ocular involvement, which they call "ocular rosacea".  I have not been diagnosed with that part, yet I do have a sensitivity to bright light, just as you describe.  The way you describe yours just made me want to ask if you do have rosacea.  If so, you may have "official" ocular involvement or you may just have more sensitivity to light than most people, as I do, which I suspect is all tied in with the rosacea, even though I don't officially have ocular involvement.

If you read this and think you might have rosacea, relax, as being on the BTD is one of the best things you can possibly do for it.  In fact, that is all I do for mine, other than now trying to stay out of the direct sun, which is a tall order in Florida.  I'm lucky because I seem to have a rather mild case that is not progressing much, if at all, in the past few years.



No, I don't think I do . . . I've never experienced the redness associated with the disease.  However, I just read a bit about ocular rosaceas and they say it's something that can develop later in life (40s and 50s - moi!) and one of the treatments is to eliminate spicy foods, alcohol and caffeine  . . .  interesting . . . so, could have it but be asymptomatic (except for the light thing).


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wheat and sugar it *depends* ...but honey is just , someone who just cooks pork...yech I could  ....and gals and guyen, there's a woman who wrote about us, but I don't found out the link: it's something about *the hypersensitive person* or similar...Yamaaaaan please help out here....you know it where it's to be found....please ....and yessss people without any behaviour...gona go to em....
chewing or other actions, please go to the next room .....

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Yes, I am so super sensitive, but definitely better now on BTD, just around my monthly times I am still pretty bad!    My dad was always like this, on the edge all the time!  I find myself doing the same.  I also have to run a fan at night because of the constant whirring sound.  I can't stand the total quiet because I hear everything around me, even breathing.  It has gotten better though, but I still much prefer my fan.  (My hubby doesn't care for it too much!  He says, "Why do you want noise to sleep?"  He thinks I am nutsy!)

Slurping soup just grates on my last nerve as well, slurping anything, hot tea, whatever.  Just thinking of the dental drill noise makes me want to scream.  It's like I can feel the noises itself.  Yikes!  I think it is a nonnie thing because we are just so sensitive...period.  I am finding that magnesium, calcium and tyrosine does help though.  

P.S.  That catechol about knocks me out!  It makes me sleepy...
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When I was little, my younger sister and I shared a room.  She always fell asleep way before I could even think about winding down from all the imagined stresses of the day, and she would snore so loud!  I'd turn her over, jerk her pillow out from under he head, plug my ears with cotton, turn on a fan....and I could still hear her.  I don't think that she was really that loud, but even her normal breathing would keep me awake.

When it was time to get me new shoes, the entire family (I'm the middle of 5) would be dragged for hours around from store to store trying to find a pair of shoes that didn't hurt.  

Turtlenecks?  Forget it.

Hair pulled back as a kid?  Forget it.  (Although now I can hardly stand to wear it down because it tickles my ears and forehead.)

My eyes are pretty sensitive at night too.  I don't have rosacea.  I have to deliberately look at the right-hand painted line on the road when a car comes so it doesn't blind me.

Interesting, Tina, that you mentioned tyrosine as helpful.  I'm even more sensitive to everything when my thyroid's low.  I'd been hunting for a long time for a gland-free supplement.  I'd been able to stop taking it when I began the BTD, but this pregnancy has really been a drain on my thyroid.  My hair never quit falling out and my midwife said I needed to get something.  So about 4 days ago I started taking a straight L-Tyrosine supplement and I'm already feeling more cheerful.  I'm still really emotionally sensitive and wanting to blame everything on everybody and feeling really sorry for myself, but I can say it's just hormonal, right?  

This is a really interesting and informative thread and it's helping me to understand that I'm not alone!


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I totally understand, Ribbit!  Been there on all those things.  Congratulations on your pregnancy though.  How exciting for you!  How far along are you?  I ordered some tyrosine as well, as I ran out of the Catechol, so am curious and hopful it will help me as well.  I guess it is safe to take during pregnancy?  That is good to know.  

I was so moody during my pregs, first trimester especially.  But after that, I felt great.  I hope that I will have more children myself whenever the Lord wants to bless me again.  Thanks for the post and encouragement.  
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You might be a Nonnie if:

"The Princess and the Pea" was a fairytale that you really identified with!

You can't stand to wear turtlenecks!  (Thanks for the reminder, Ribbit!)

You have very few teeth that haven't been filled or crowned.

You've always felt "different" from the rest of humanity.

At least once in your life, you've considered how much more simple life would be if you didn't have to eat.  (Am I the only one who has felt like food was attacking me?  {pre-BTD} )



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Ha!  I love it!  So true about the living without eating thing.  I have said more than once to my hubby, I would feel so good if I didn't have to worry about eating!  Pre-BTD, but also a few times since when my mood was particularly low or irritable.

You know, so true about the filled teeth and crowns, except now that I eat right, my last dental appointment was excellent...and I had not been in 3 years prior!  

I love BTD!
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Woo-hoo!  Funny the Princess and the Pea was mentioned.  I was thinking of more "you might be a nonnie if" statements last night as I was rocking my children to sleep and I thought, "The Princess and the Pea must have been a nonnie."  It made me laugh so much I almost woke up the children!

Tina, I'm due May 17....I'd really have to think hard about how far along that makes me.  When I was expecting my first, I LIVED by the calendar and always knew exactly how many weeks along I was and how big the baby was and what developed that week.  With my second, I always knew what month I was in, and now.....some days I forget I'm expecting until suddenly I have to sit down for a while from dizziness (oh, and the hundred trips to the bathroom all day and night).  I guess I'm nearly 6 months.

So my question is why are nonnies so sensitive?  What about children with severe hypersensitivity, who scream when touched and scream when there's anything too high-pitched, or tear at elastic bands and socks and can't stand to have their hair trimmed, and won't eat anything crunchy?  I've worked with children like this.  Taking wheat, dairy and corn out of their diets helped.  I didn't know about the BTD then.  What is it about retaining our blood type antigens that makes us feel too much?


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I would believe, the 'fight back' antibodies are not 'right at the door', you know!


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Ok, nonnies, here's how I see it!

Secretors:  There is a nice castle with well-fortified walls.  The soldiers stop everyone at the gate, and inquire, "Friend or Foe?" !!  Only the friends are allowed in and the foes are sent away.

Non-secretors:  There is a nice castle with well-fortified walls.  The soldiers stand at the gate and wave everyone in, calling out to all passers-by, "Welcome!  Come on in and we'll sort you all out once you get settled!"




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That is very creative, Victoria, and so true.  I like this.  I can certainly see it happening.  Only, once the guests are inside the wall, they become enemies and immediately a fierce battle ensues, that lasts for a while until all the enemies are finally destroyed and victory again belongs to the Kingdom inside!  The valiant Sir Dadamo and the BTD Knights of the Healthy Table win the war!  

I am too corny!
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there are actually no soldiers standing at the gate!!!!
they re all somewhere inside having a ball.......lol

and there is no wall or gate!!!


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Ha!  Lola, I woke up this morning, and my first thought was . . "oops, there aren't any soldiers at the gate in the nonnie castle!!!"

I see the "gate" as the body openings (mouth, nose, ears, eyes, etc.) and the "wall" is the skin.

And, yep, Tina.  Once they all get inside, we have a mixed bag, and some end up being trouble-makers.  If we eat plenty of beneficials and keep our immune systems strong with good herbs and elderberry, etc., our little soldiers can retore order soon enough.



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Yes! Yes! Yes! Light sensitivity, wool, turtlenecks, teeth/fillings. Feeling of Hair tickling skin - want to scream. Then it's gone for weeks .... why off & on? was it something I was eating. I wonder.
How about itching inside your ears? and the tip of your nose?

Anybody get the feeling their hair is standing up and about to shoot into space. (hurts) Is that to weird? Some kind of stress reaction. Makes me think of the migrains I used to get .

How about body temperature? Sometimes I'm so cold.

Rabbit what did you mean  "When my Thyroid's low". how can you tell.
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I don’t know about Rabbit, but when my thyroid levels are low, my energy drops and I become sluggish.  I keep a bag of dried Nori seaweed at home, in my car and at my office.  My co-workers are used to seeing me eat “strange” foods.


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Does the Nori seaweed help that much?  How do you use it?  I cook it in a pot of beans or in soup, but I don't know what to do with it past that.

Purlgirl, if the inside of your ears itch and you're BTD compliant (some foods cause mucus production which can make your ears itch), dump some garlic/goldenseal oil down it and then try an ear candle.

When my thyroid is low, the first thing to clue me in is that I'm cold.  I have a hard time regulating my body temperature and am freezing cold all winter and burning up hot all summer but can't seem to sweat.  I also become really touchy physically and emotionally.  Kind of like what we've been talking about.  But when I take an L-Tyrosine supplement, I'm okay.  If your body temperature is always  low (take it first thing in the morning before you get out of bed or even move too much), it's an indication of underactive thyroid.  Also being tired and unusually grouchy and feeling like you have lead pumping through your veins.  I get paranoid too.

When I was in my early teens (when all my health issues were at their worst), I would sit so close to the fireplace that my skin would actually burn, like sunburn.  It took that much to warm me up.

Do all nonnies have underactive thyroid?  I had thought it was an A thing.

I loved the idea of the soldiers and the walls.  It almost brought me to tears because I see myself as being that was relationally, not physically.  "Everybody come on in!  People are my friends!  Yippee!"  (This, from a paranoid introvert---when my thyroid's low.)  And then I'm surprised when I'm hurt and people take advantage of me.  My dh says I let people run all over me and don't stand up for myself.  Is this a nonnie thing too?


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yep in a certain way, it's true

my Ex(an O sechi ) told me all the time, in life you've to decide yourself,do you want to be hammer or anvil... and I can't resist to give that reply: better to be the air between
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The Nori seaweed is a good source of iodine.  I usually eat it as is.   I like to munch on things.  It can also be crumbled up on a salad.  I also put it or other seaweeds in soups and stews.

Before menopause, I used to always be cold also.  I’d be sitting close to the fireplace with you.  My Ex used to sleep with the fan blowing on his side of the bed because I set the thermostat to 80 deg F.  Of course I had the heavy comforter over me.  Because BTD & menopause coincided maybe it also had a hand in my temperature adjustment.  I now set the thermostat to 68 deg F.


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Rabbit and Lilac thanks for responding
Lilac - how can  you can tell the Nori helps.
Oh, I thought I had tried Nori but the pkg of sea veg I have contains "Arami".  I need a map.

There is an thyroid/iodine test.  Look in the" Live Right 4 your type " area under "Say it isn't so" # 24, or 32. (sorry I don't know how to link) Going to  try it again tonight.
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My energy comes back and I feel normal.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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My energy comes back and I feel normal.


what do you mean?
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wooohooo please explain the meaning and what is *normal*



p.s.
btw our grandmaischda of orthomoleculars in Teutonia Prof.Dr. Uhlenbruck, describes us very well too; I wrote about his textes (tried it ) in my thread about: sports- a killer   ......
(haaa....have an eye on this .....)

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Well now I'm convinced I'm a nonnie. Everything applies except for the teeth. I have good teeth.
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great for U but where are U no avtar to see
please click on the membercenter and choose a fine design fitting for your type and thanx
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I'm quite new here. I have ordered my testing kit but I'm guessing I'm an O.
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ok...ok...accepted
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Quoted from mitzi
Well now I'm convinced I'm a nonnie. Everything applies except for the teeth. I have good teeth.

The only way to know for sure is to do the secretor test, but only after you find out your blood type.



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Those of you who have been reading the children/baby section have read about my daughter's apparent allergies.  But for those of you who don't read those threads.....there may be another way to guess if you're a secreter or not if you're not quite ready to dish out the money for the test.  Follow the secreter diet for a while (months), see how you feel, then switch to the non-secreter diet.  We did this for my daughter and her red eye circles vanished.  We now assume she's a nonnie like me.


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.......if you mind all such suggestions so please have an eye into:

*the highly sensitive person* by r. Elaine Aron

this lady sended me right now an e-mail to ask if I am still interested in her newsletter; so happy I am, because this it was what I tried to make on this board recently.
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what do you mean?


I guess normal is a relative term.  I’m alert and not cold.


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This is so fascinating!  I always thought I was just weird because of my sensitivities:  I hate the soap aisle in the market, perfume smells are overpowering, (yes, Tina) sounds of the dentist's drill!! are like pain, my husband's watch ticking at night keeps me awake, can't face the window in the restaurant, night blindness...must look at the white line on the right to see (like Ribbit), the ordeal of shoe shopping like Linda.  I have preferences about the feel of the cups I use, the edge, the bottom, etc.  As a child, I had a collection of books that I couldn't stand to read because I didn't want to touch the edges of the pages which were stylishly rough and irregular.   I'm more tolerant now and have mellowed out a bit with age.  And since I've been on the BTD,  I don't have as much trouble driving at night.  And I'm not always freezing.  

It's so nice to know there is a reason for some of my quirks!  And that I'm not alone!
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.......if you mind all such suggestions so please have an eye into:

*the highly sensitive person* by r. Elaine Aron


Thanks for this reference!  This is a great link:
http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/sensitive-persons.asp

The comments are very interesting and there is a self-test by the author.  
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...weew a mixup between TA (transactional anal ysis ) and other goodies


huggies to my neighbour above



RRRRRRRoooooooddddnnneeeyyyy.....something for U to suscribe

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I happened to read this thread today and how interesting !!  
Afterwards,  I proceeded to read this wonderful story and so relate to it

http://childhoodreading.com/Edmund_Dulac_and_Gus/Princess_and_the_Pea.html


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relates to our *royalness*
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relates to our *royalness*


U so entertain me *royalness* Tomatilla !!!  


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Hello everyone!!!!!  
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Hello, Scout!  



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OSuzanna belatedly thanking lucindabryce for the PaintersKeys link.....hope you're doing well...


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Quoted from lucindabryce
 ...As a child, I had a collection of books that I couldn't stand to read because I didn't want to touch the edges of the pages which were stylishly rough and irregular.   ...And since I've been on the BTD,  I don't have as much trouble driving at night.  And I'm not always freezing. ... 


Wow, the page-edges reference stunned me. I think it's referred to as deckle-edged. I always thought of it as cheap bookbinding.....


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Today I was just thinking of how differant I am but then thought of all you BTD peoples!  I then said to myself, "I am not the only one that have so many quirks!"  I then smiled to think I'm not alone when I say, "I'm allergic to that....", "My digestive system can't handle that.", "I get sick if I eat that."   I have always noticed how the smells in the soap isle at the stores have just about choked me, now I know why.    

I've always wondered what makes me tick, being on the BTD way has really lifted the fog and now I understand why I am the way I am!
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it is a wonderful feeling!!


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yep....Lolalein it is

and of course yep to all the other suggs .......
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I'm not an O nonny, but I'd just like to say that I admire all O nonny's of the world!
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Quoted from Ribbit
Those of you who have been reading the children/baby section have read about my daughter's apparent allergies.  But for those of you who don't read those threads.....there may be another way to guess if you're a secreter or not if you're not quite ready to dish out the money for the test.  Follow the secreter diet for a while (months), see how you feel, then switch to the non-secreter diet.  We did this for my daughter and her red eye circles vanished.  We now assume she's a nonnie like me.


I like the Bible verse you used below your post; I've been silently quoting this in my head everytime someone finds my allegiance to the BTD a little strange.  My father said "God made all food good", and yes he did, I say, "But not everyone can where pink!".  Some people just don't get it!  
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"But not everyone can where pink!".

can wear?


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Hi all, as an A secretor I too am a highly sensitive person, just as a first child I did not allow me to be really impaired from this; few good friends, the amount of social interaction and the kind I can stand, and a iron will to cope as I can to all the best anad worst of life ahve made me stronger. Sometimes I just retreat in myself to deal better with my emotion and this allow me to recover.
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Quoted from lola

can wear?


It may be a stretch, but I think of it in terms of individuality. The color pink clashes with a red-head; wheat in the same sense, clashes with type O blood.  
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ahem I am fine with pink
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The color pink clashes with a red-head


I'm a red-head and I can wear pink!


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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ahem I am fine with pink


OH NO- don't tell me you're a red-head?! (-and a pink fan, if so, I don't mean to offend!)
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I find it interesting that so many nonnies have sensory issues. That's also very common among autistics; makes me wonder how big the overlap is between the two groups.

A book well worth reading is "The out-of-Sync Child" by C.S. Kranowitz. It's about sensory processing disorder and was quite a revelation to me. I finally began to understand some of the problems I had during childhood (and some I still have today).
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I didn't felt offended and yessss I am a pink-fan ....and of cours am I a red-head .....
but ok....a colourful- one .....merely bordeaux- rouge ....so pink underlines that very well  
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Wow, just ran across this thread this morning.  I had no idea other people shared my quirks.  I just figured I was 'special' because:

Turtlenecks feel like a noose around my neck.

Headlights really bother me.  I wear my sunglasses while driving in the morning while it's still dark.

The dentist's drill?  OMG, the vibration and especially the noise is deafening.  I usually wear earplugs to take it down a few notches.

Absolute quiet at night drives me crazy.  I've had a fan running every night forever.  If it's -10 degrees out, the fan is still going.  Plus it keeps the air from getting 'stuffy' which is a whole other issue.

The night quiet is funny considering other noises bother me.  Anything loud pretty much gets on my nerves.  And I have supersonic hearing.  I can hear a faucet dripping a mile away.

I also have great eye sensitivity to the sun.  Always am wearing my sunnies even if it's cloudy.  If I come out of a dark place (like a movie theater) into the sun I'm always good for a sneezing fit.

The summer heat bothers me something awful.  I'm sooooo happy it's only going to be 60 here today.  That's like heaven!

And the whole not eating issue?  I mentioned on another thread that I enjoy doing a fast just because it take the meal planning, preparing, eating of out the picture.  I find it relaxing to not eat for a couple days.

So glad I read this thread.  Guess nonnies really are special in a totally weird, warped sort of way.


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5.     Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

Could you elaborate on this one?  It sounds like you just quoted my Father; I NEVER could chew quietly enough for him.  Are our senses heightened because we’re nonnies?  I like bland food because tastes come across so strong.


I can hear people chew across the room.  It makes me crazy!  I thought I was the only one in the world who heard it.  And I love bland food.  Of course, I love seasoned food, too.

People do think I am crazy for eating this way.  I have given up trying to change them.  I just listen to their moans and complaints and I want to shake them and say "Wake Up."  But no one will listen.  Oh, well, I have done my part!


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This is a great threat. I was wondering whether there is a connection between 'highly sensitive people' (the book by Elaine Aron as mentioned before) and nonnies. Highly sensitive people are about 20 % and nonnies are about 20 % of the population.  
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I wonder what percentage of people with autism are nonnies.


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less then we think, Ribbit .....

but perhaps once upon a day we might grow out of those lovely habits whooooo knows .....

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Too funny.  I fit it pretty well too.  The sound of people eating bananas drives me bananas.

I'm not quite as sensitive to smells as I used to be, of course, I have my own house now and just don't let fragranced stuff in.  Very sensitive to sunlight and headlights also.  I also hate turtlenecks with a passion.  Buzzing flies, noise pollution at night, pollution in general, cigarette smoke, etc.


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What gets to me is the sound of a baby crying.  Ah, hormones.


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So...what are some good things for nonnies?

a well-written book
funny movies
supportive friends
deep breathing
a non-cluttered living/working space
quiet music
100% cotton, wide-necked shirts
sun glasses
a haircut that doesn't tickle


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"You might be a nonnie if...you wonder why clothing has to have the seam on the INSIDE!"

Wow, I can identify.  I'm bothered by the smells of soap and cologne/perfume, not having the seam on my sock lined up (tube socks are anathema for me).  I hate wool and people snoring.  I actually have to use earplugs to get a decent (at best) night of sleep if I can hear someone snoring.  And who EVER thought it was a good idea to make a clock that makes noise every 15 minutes, half hour, or hour???  My hair actually does grow straight out (you should see it if I let it grow out to 2 inches, I look like a Q-tip).  When I was a kid my mom took me to the optometrist because I was always squinting -- turns out that my eyes were/are sensitive to bright light (yes, I also despise those new halogen headlights)l; now I'm rarely outdoors without sunglasses, and I wear them while driving until it's too dark to wear them anymore.  Luckily, I have good teeth, but hearing a dentist's drill in the next room is enough to set my nerves on edge.  And I'm feeling all of you who hate the heat, cold, damp, and dry.  Fall is my favorite season, partly because of the colors, but mostly because the temperature is moderate and the summer humidity is gone but the winter dryness hasn't arrived yet!  Also, do any of you ever get feeling agitated, like you just want to jump out of your own skin, without any apparent reason?  I had one of those days last week.  I drove to see my brother, and it was like I could feel every crease, wrinkle, and seam in my clothes.

Fortunately, like most of you, this has gotten better since BTD, but it sure ain't cured!
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oh my i can add to these lists!

smells, most perfumes, coughs that are just too regular to ignore, damp or cold feet, cold temperatures and never being able to keep warm in cooler climes, televisions that are on when im not interested, dirty hair, misunderstandings, agitation, injustice... are the not so good.

But, there is a counter point of things that are soo good! music, sounds, colours, landscapes, clothing that 'fits right' - for want of a better description, fesh food, reading, sunbathing, swimming, drinking wine, moisturiser, pets...anyone?
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ahh the madness!!! and everyone considers us crazy!!
so much injustice!


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So...what are some good things for nonnies?
a well-written book
funny movies
supportive friends
deep breathing
a non-cluttered living/working space
quiet music
100% cotton, wide-necked shirts
sun glasses
a haircut that doesn't tickle


Ah, Ribbit, you are so right!

What about personal conflict??  I can’t handle drama.      And I can't stand to think that I have hurt anyone’s feelings.     What about personal boundaries for Nonnies?    

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yiiikes...personal boundaries for the Royals...US ! .....
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What about personal boundaries for Nonnies?    


It seems to come natural to lots of people, however, I think for nonnies it requires a conscious effort - at least it does for me, but I am getting better at it.

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Headlights really bother me.

Yep.  I'm sensitive to bright light.
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The summer heat bothers me something awful.

Yep.

Just a thought:  you may want to check with a dermatologist to see if s/he thinks you could have rosacea.  I have it and the combo of being sensitive to bright light and to summer heat just make me wonder if maybe you do, too.  Of course, there are only about a billion other reasons you could have those two quirks, including just that that is the way you happen to be wired, but I just do wonder...


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Interesting about the sensitivities to sounds and smells, etc.  I have that in spades, babies.  My mom is always commenting that I notice sounds so much more than most people, and I can't tune them out.  In fact, there is this light on the outside of my house that comes on when the daylight dwindles and goes off in the morning (I never have figured that sucker out...but that's another story...I don't think it is solar-powered...anyway, I digress).  It has taken to making this loud "buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" the entire time it is on.  Now, perhaps a NORMAL person could just IGNORE this and sleep through it.  Just tune it out, Edna, I tell myself.  But NO!  Maddening!  So I have had to close my window (I'm in Florida and usually like to sleep with one of the bedroom windows open a little) just to put some sort of buffer between me and that...that...that SOUND!      .

I am also sensitive to smells but that could be a whole other, non-nonnie-related dealiwig to do with an iatrogenic nose sitch I have going on (don't ask/don't tell).

The sound sensitivity thing also is the flip side of a love of music...do you fellow nonnies have a deep love of music?  I mean, most everyone will say, when asked "oh yes, I love music", but I mean, do you LOVE music?  Because I LOVE it.  But on the flip side, I an so exquisitely sensitive to sound and music that I can't tune out any of same that I find to be obnoxious or, in the case of music, not good.  I can't stand when my co-workers have vapid radio stations on playing singers and/or songs that I can't STAND--AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!  Make it stop.  Paradoxically, I sometimes also can't stand if some GREAT music comes on when I'm at work because then I cannot concentrate on my work and I am compelled to go into a trance and listen to the music.  This thing they have me doing now of scanning SDRs in the mornings, which takes place in its own office, complete with radio and cassette player, is great because it is the type of work that is very systematic and sort of rote, so you don't need to think much, hence I have been blasting out everything from the Surfaris to the Indigo Girls to the Talking Heads.  But if I'm at my regular cubicle and trying to CONCENTRATE, I can't do so if something really bad or really good comes onto a co-worker's radio station and it is DISTRACTING.  I myself am a considerate pup and thus I do not listen to music in my cubicle...but the office where one scans?  As in drywall, closing door, the whole shooting match?  Oh yeah, babe!  Someone else brought the radio/tape unit in there, but I'm not averse to it at all--wu HUUUUUUU!

But if anything is going on outside my house, or even outside someone's window if I'm on the phone with that person, I am totally distracted.  I'll be talking to my mom, especially, because they are always doing loud landscape maintenance or SOMETHING at her apartment complex, plus there are always sirens coming because it is a senior apartment complex and there is always someone being rushed to the hospital or something.  I'm always like "Mom, what is that NOISE?"  "What noise?"  "That NOISE!  That NOISE, you don't hear that NOISE?!"  "Oh, that...yeah, they are doing something outside."



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I've been grinning my way through the last page or so of this thread, oh, yeah, I must be a nonnie, alright! But, as usual, a twisted one.
All my life til this year I have adored long turtlenecks, having a longish gooseneck myself that's always cold. Regular snoring, not so bad, but catchy irregular snoring that sounds like choking, forget it, I'm up all night. Chewing with the mouth open, keep me away from guns.  
But nails on chalkboard don't bother me at all. At all.
I think most reptiles are gorgeous, particularly love snapping turtles and box turtles.
Wool burns my skin like acid. How come I can eat sheep, but not wear them? That goes against the ol' waste-not-want-not of olden days. Is that cause I'm a nonnie and shouldn't even be here to complain about it?
I can hear a gnat fart, but I can't understand you in a crowd unless I can see your lips move to backup what I can hear.
Okay, I gotta go, thanks for the been-there-done-that entertainment, guys!


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OSuzanna, you made me smile with that gnat fart business!  

Body odors on people can distract me so much that I can't even be in the same room with them.  And mouth/breath odor.  I can't ignore it when the smells are bad.  I have to fight to keep from throwing up!  Clutter in a house makes me so claustrophobic, but I'm not bothered by dust bunnies or littlecobwebs.  

Lables on the inside of clothing drive me bonkers   and seams on the insides of my socks have to be positioned so that I can't feel them at all when my shoes are on.

I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?  



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When I was a little girl, my mother would read me the story "The Princess and the Pea", about a queen who tested many young ladies to see who was a real princess.  The one who was chosen was a girl who could not sleep on a stack of mattresses because a tiny pea was at the bottom of the pile, and she felt it like she was sleeping on a big lumpy rock.

Nonnie princess.  



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As a nonnie, I feel a strange and almost irresistable attraction to the Canadian province of Nova Scotia and the Canadian maritime provinces; Iceland; Nunavut, Canada; and basically anywhere around the Northern Atlantic... except for Europe or the UK, for some reason.

Why?

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Lola,

You may be righter than you think.  Here are the results of a past-life website analysis that I got awhile back:

Your past life diagnosis:
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I don't know how you feel about it, but you were female in your last earthly incarnation.You were born somewhere in the territory of modern North Canada around the year 475. Your profession was that of a artist, magician or fortune teller.
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Your brief psychological profile in your past life:
Bohemian personality, mysterious, highly gifted, capable to understand ancient books. With a magician's abilities, you could have been a servant of dark forces.
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The lesson that your last past life brought to your present incarnation:
Your task is to learn determination and persistency. Youd should not allow to let misfortunes take influence on your strong will.
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Do you remember now?
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Curious,

I doubt that seriously.  The Australian outback is a massive frying pan.  I hate the burning sun and heat.

Or were you being facetious?
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I can hear a gnat fart, but I can't understand you in a crowd unless I can see your lips move to backup what I can hear.
Okay, I gotta go, thanks for the been-there-done-that entertainment, guys!


Oh, how funny... I am the same way.  I hear everything yet I hear nothing in a crowd.

I was reading this thread from the beginning and I read one that sounded like me.  And guess what?  It was me!!  

About noise: I get so confused when there are a lot of sounds in my head.  I like opera music and music in other languages because they don't enter into the conversations I am having with myself in my already overcrowded brain!  That is because I don't understand them, yet I can still appreciate the pretty music.

I love quiet, but I like a fan or something else with 'white noise' at night.

I have been away from the site for a while and it is good to be back.  This particular posting makes me feel not so alone.

Are other nonnie's "pack rats?"  I tend to keep things "just in case..."


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Oh and I hate turtle necks.  I fell trapped!  And I love the outside, the sunshine, the wind and nature,especially when I am not dressed up to go to the office.  

I have always loved fairy tales and refer to "The Princess and the Pea" frequently when I cannot get comfortable in m;y chair at work or when I do not sleep well at night.  I truly am a nonnie princess now!!


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Quoted from meribelle

I was reading this thread from the beginning and I read one that sounded like me.  And guess what?  It was me!!  


Are other nonnie's "pack rats?"  I tend to keep things "just in case..."


Oh, dear, I'm a many-interests artist, and always go back, sort of like doing a circuit, to types of art I've practiced previously.... You can't just get rid of expensive art supplies just 'cause you're not using them at the moment...
Also read alot, so you know how that ends up


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OSuzanna, you made me smile with that gnat fart business!  

Lables on the inside of clothing drive me bonkers   and seams on the insides of my socks have to be positioned so that I can't feel them at all when my shoes are on.

[Agreed.]

I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

[I always thought bedding should ventilate, too.]

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?  




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Curious,

I doubt that seriously.  The Australian outback is a massive frying pan.  I hate the burning sun and heat.

Or were you being facetious?

No, I meant it seriously, because it is so empty (I love it for this reason). You are right, it is a frying pan in summer, but it is cool in winter. In particular at night, the temperature can be freezing. I cycled in the outback a while ago and some mornings my waterbottles were frozen.

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I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?  


Wow, I thought I was the only person who did that!
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Growing up in Florida as I did, when I was an infant my mother tells me that I used to hate being out in the heat... She says I would scream and cry.  But I always loved the colder weather... Autumn is my favorite season.

Another weird thing I did, was that I got this large-size GI Joe playset when I was about four and, for some odd reason, I used to love carrying around the hard plastic grey rhinoceros that came with it.  In fact, I used to sleep with the thing.  I mean, it wasn't soft at all.

Another thing I used to do, is put my pillow in the freezer at night, just to get it nice and cold.  Remember, this was Florida, and I hated the heat.  So I would get my pillows nice and cold, and then take them into the bed to sleep with.

Finally, I used to play with the corners of my pillows and my collars... I would take them and brush the tips of my fingers over them, because it felt good.  Over time, the corners would get dark with the oils from my fingertips.  Later on, I also learned to do this with pencils, and that's a habit I still have to this day.

Pretty weird, eh.
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... is put my pillow in the freezer at night, just to get it nice and cold.  

Definitely no Australian outback for you, Ron.  

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I received my test results that confirmed that I was a nonnie.  After reading through this thread I thought I would be a nonnie because I simply fit the mold.

Hate feeling closed in in any situation:
crowds
turtlenecks
seatbelt
I simply need free movement.  I think I was meant to be a nudist.

Perspiration
I perspire more than the average man.  It is worse now that I am fat, but even when I was skinny I dripped water.  Not just the arm pits.   I have had people ask me if it had been raining outside.  The sweat seems to have little to do with being hot although the heat makes it worse.  If I concentrate very hard water will cascade from my brow.

Feelings
Those familiar with Briggs-Myer and Jungian classification I am an INFJ.   An introverted, intuitive, feeling, judging or justice guy.  At times I feel that I am quite literally two personalities rolled into one.  I love talking to groups and crowds and hate being around groups and crowds at the same time.  I feel left out when not involved with something that is going on and put out when I am involved.  I often think of myself as a knight, sheep dog, type of guy and Lancelot is my hero.

Heat
I have a saying, "You can always get warm, but it is difficult to get cool."  Fall is my favorite time of year in Missouri.  40-50F is ideal.

Sensory
I am not sure if I fit the mold here or not.  I handle noise fairly well, but do insist that the TV is loud enough to drown out any other noise distractions.  At the same time I am quick to judge others being to loud when they watch TV.

Order
I need and crave for things to be logical and orderly but I am a lazy slob.  As the house gets cluttered my anxiety level grows until I loose control or clean the house.   I am quick to throw stuff away to keep 'order'.  Often I need to set my desk up perfectly before I can begin a new project, but can let the desk fall apart if I am in the middle of a project.

Sensitive
I will share my feelings (just read my post) with anyone who will listen and I have a huge empathy level for others.  I find it impossible to be angry with someone who has wronged me because I see their side of the story very clearly.  This leads me to avoid any and all conflict until I blow up or the people involved leave the state.  I work on the conflict thing all of the time.  What happens often times is that I become passive aggressive so that I can lie to myself about being that Lancelot character I mentioned above.  When I finally realize that I caused harm I go into a great self-destructive funk.  I have been accused of being rather feminine with my sensitivity.
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Newly confirmed nonnie here!  This is so cool!  I was so tired of feeling like the weird one in my family.  So nice not to be alone  

Personally I really don't like crowds, strong scents (especially perfume, afterhsave or cigarette smoke  !), and disorder (even if I am a messy housekeeper most of the time).  Just about once a week I have to reorganize things back into order.  I was wondering why I didn't like turtle necks anymore.  I just wouldn't wear them so I stopped buying them and switched to bulky sweaters.

When I read the "Highly Sensitive Person" by Elaine Aron, I thought it sounded just like me.  I came to wonder, privately, if the population % of both nonnies and HSPs both being around 20% was not a coincidence.  I am one of the HSP types who seeks input, even thought I am alson easily overwhelmed by it.  Pre BTD I used to feel like the border between too much (overload) and too little (boredom) input was more like a knife edge.   Now at least I can sense trouble coming.  Even if I don't always avoid it like I should    sigh.

Pre BTD I was always too hot in any situation except an extremely cold winter day.  A year into BTD and I could not get warm enough.  Five years later and I seem to finally have evened out a bit.  Since I used to hate the heat, it is fun sometimes to hear other people complain about how it's too hot in the summer time, meanwhile I'm feeling "just right" on a warm day.  

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Pre BTD I used to feel like the border between too much (overload) and too little (boredom) input was more like a knife edge. Now at least I can sense trouble coming.

that s very profound!!
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Hmm...no wrinkley sheets for me, or tags, or bunchy socks. It's a nonnie thing I guess . This is often a characteristic too, of "difficult childern", perhaps they too, are nonnies. When I was 5, I got a heck of a spanking because I refused to wear a very itchy, lacy flower girl dress. Needless to say I tried on a "million" wedding dress' till I found one that did not itch!

A too loud tv, or big crowds upset me. Nonnies are sensitive souls.


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While I am still, comparatively speaking, a "sensitive soul", I am not as sensitive in the past couple of months that I have been feeling so well.  Getting rid of the gluten is not only healing my gut, it's thickening my skin!
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I am so interested to see if I am one.  I'm wating patiently on my test restults.


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Oh, goody.  We resurrected this thread!  I just read back over the last two pages and was nodding and chuckling to myself.  *happy sigh* I finally fit in somewhere.  People understand!  This is amazing!  I love you guys.  I really do.  As was mentioned on the previous page, about "difficult children" maybe being nonnies, I believe this may be true.  Looking at my AB nonnie daughter and seeing me as a child in her (not in any way tempermentally)....Like the other morning we were going through last year's summer clothes trying things on and I guess it was just the wrong day to do it.  Everything was "too big" or "too small" or "too tight" or "the tag scratches" or "it's wrinkly" or "the red is too bright."  You name it, it was a problem.  So I put all the clothes back in the box to try on a happier day, and I got her dressed in her regular clothes again.  But were her socks right?  Oh, no, the seam just wouldn't sit right on her toes.  We tried three different pairs of socks out of her drawer.  I finally told her just to go barefoot, but "the floor's too cold."  All this was done with many tears on her part, understand.  The only think keeping me from getting really upset at her was the fact that I remember good and well how sensitive I was as a child and how I couldn't concentrate at school because my tag would itch or my hair would tickle my ears and forehead or my sock elastic was too tight or too loose, or, even worse, uneven, and one sock would stay up and the other would scrunch down.  So my recollection of what it was like kept me from getting mad at her.  We tried on a happier day when she wasn't touchy and all was well.  


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I agree, Ribbit.  It's just a relief to understand ourselves and others, and know that sometimes people are not just being difficult.  It's how we are wired!

Do any other nonnies besides myself have a difficult time sleeping if there is another person in the same bed?



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It took me several months after we were married to be able to relax and have a good night's sleep (but by then I was pregnant, so I couldn't sleep anyway), because I hadn't ever shared a bed with anybody other than my sister!  I think I'm too "aware" physically.  It's like Please don't touch or bump me or breathe on me......Although I have no trouble snuggling up with my babies and sleeping with them all night.


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I think it's kind of normal.  When we were first married, we held each other all night.  Now it's all about getting sleep.  She came too close the last couple nights and I gave her a shove.  She said it's most comfortable to sleep inbetween the two pillow.  ????????


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Being in bed to cuddle is great!  But when I'm ready to sleep, that's a different matter.  I prefer to not have the distraction of another body.  Movements, noises, breathing . . all these things greatly disturb my sleep.

I don't know if it's a nonnie thing, or maybe because I mothered two children and learned to sleep lightly.  Whatever the cause, I only get refreshing sleep if I am completely undisturbed.



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Often snoring (somebody else's) will ruin my sleep. For me the worst sleep-deprivation things are car alarms and barking dogs. And the tv down the hall when I'm trying to sleep if I have to get up early.


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Don't get me started on dogs.  Every house we've lived in since we've been married we've ended up having loud dogs right next door.  I have murdered many a dog in my heart.  They know when we're taking naps and they come out and yap or howl, and where are the owners?  At work all day, or at parties till late at night and the dogs just bark and bark and bark.  Grrrrrrrrr at them.  Throw them some chocolate or something.


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My nonnie-ness shows up big in the sleep area too.  In my own room, in my own bed, with the thick, black curtains pulled, I sleep fine.  If there is a disturbing noise, I can turn on a fan to cover it, and that usually works.

Sleeping away from home is very frustrating.  At mom's house, they have three indoor cats (to which I have a mild allergy), and a night light I can see in the living room (where I'm usually "sleeping"), PLUS one of those awful clocks that chime.  I have to take it down from the wall and turn off the chime before I can even think about sleep.  Dad's house isn't much better: paper-thin curtains and industrial-strength outdoor lights shining right into the guest bedroom window.
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*lol*  That reminds me of one of our apartments in Miami where we had the same problem.  Only the resident mocking bird thought it was day time all night long and he sat on this tiny pole that stuck out from the wall just above our bedroom window, and he'd sing for 8 hours straight.


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My Mom and StepDad have a clock like that in there living room and I slept overnight there once this year due to a snowstorm.  I think it woke me every half our.  The big hoopla on the hour and the one chime at the half.  They're and the clock was lucky I wasn't sleeping with a gun.

I still have no clue if I'm a nonnie though.  


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I bet my husband is too.  He gets unreasonably tense and angry if the children are too loud.  I gently remind him that if he's a nonnie, all our kids are too, and that's why we're all hyper-sensitive to everything.  It helps us be a little more patient with each other when we understand they're feeling what we're feeling.


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Yeah, too much commotion for me gets me the same way.    I'm not really into big crowds either.  I usually feel kind of, chlostrophobic.  However it's spelled.  And lately, I totally feel like a hypochondriac, although that's more of a new thing.  I never did like being sick, but things usually passed quickly when I was younger.  No chronic stuff.

Anyways, my test has arrived but waiting on the results!!!!!!!


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I am still trying to work out if Im a non-secretor or not but I was just thinking after reading some of the threads that I might be since;

When I first saw the word nonnie and you guys using it all over the place, for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.
I think cos I didn't know what it meant but Im investigating more for myself now I will get used to the word more and hopefully become friends with it.

I often felt isolated and different as a child.

I never had problems with eating food & loved it and always wanted more, until one day my dad told me to stop pigging out on chicken one night.

we always had wine at the table but I gave it up when I was 12 as I read that it was fattening.



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we always had wine at the table but I gave it up when I was 12 as I read that it was fattening.




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AC did you just burst out into laughter?
hahaha
yeah I know it is pretty funny.
But since I grew up on wine - Im wondering whether thats where a part of my struggle with weight came from.


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AC did you just burst out into laughter?
hahaha
yeah I know it is pretty funny.
But since I grew up on wine - Im wondering whether thats where a part of my struggle with weight came from.


I did Marie! Sorry, I thought it was a joke...talk about cultural differences huh?



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I was talking about secreter status with my husband the other night and how we probably were all non-secreters.  My 5-year-old said, "I hope I'm a yes-secreter."  "Why is that?" I asked.  "Well, because I want to be able to....secrete....stuff."


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I like certain 'white noise' & can't stand other noises like motors running....
I sleep better with talk on the radio than music. I like to hear others' conversations like on talk shows or even the news station.
When I was younger, I also was more irritated by tags, seams, etc. (I still cut the tags off clothing as I assume I am allergic to the material.)As my diet improved over the years, I am not as hyper in that sense & not as ticklish.

I like to sleep with another person(spouse!)but if he isn't there, I like that radio going(even when he is there-I'm glad he likes it also, but doubt he is as addicted as I am.).
I assume I'm a nonnie, & even tho nonnies have more problems, I would be disappointed to find I'm a secretor! The nonnie diet worked better for me. If I can get more diamonds, I'm sure the GTD would be better, too.
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to give up alc. intake with 12 years... weew.....this is a very early time to do so!!!  
normally it's just the inverse time...you might get into contact with wine up from 15-16 even later and wine in itself isn't harming but the contrary but it depends of course about the mass
I grew up in South of France...here people drink red wine every day and no little amounts ....but there people's health is normally at their very best and very little of heartattacs, nor whatsoever....
I think here lays the evidence of methylation and the body's capability for quicker detox .....


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Ooooooh!!...so that's my problem!....not enough wine  
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When I first saw the word nonnie and you guys using it all over the place, for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.



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Oh, I can sympathize. There are certain words & letters of the alphabet I don't like. But after time, we get used to them.
There's a college here, the U of Illinois, but the newer Chicago location. For years, they called it Chicago Circle.
Somehow, I didn't like that name. So, when I finally got used to it (20? years?), they started calling it UIC(Univ. Ill. at Chicago).
We all grumbled about the long political campaign, but at least the names Huckabee & Obama don't seem strange. I am sure that these people were judged by their names early on, but now they are household words. I hated my maiden name, but others who knew it don't think much about it. I'm sure they thought it was funny or ugly when they first heard it, but when one gets used to it, nobody cares.
So, in conclusion, I hope we all get used to the word "nonnie" like we probably did "newbie" & who knows what else. How about NS instead of nonnie?
Anyway, have a good day!!
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hey Madl...we created a new word what's about non-sechi  


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Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I don’t need the test.

I am a newbie here and i would just like to know the fastest way to get started and start the healing process. I am having all the symptoms of CFS which i think is due to mitochondrial malfunction. Mentally i have ADHD and severe anxiety.  I had a bunch of really bad things like death of loved ones and divorce and car crashes and business failure all happen at once and i have not recovered.   I fit the DSM IV criteria for PTSD aka post traumatic stress disorder.

Where can i get started to get the most benefit?

There are so many books, and i am not sure which one to read.

I would also like to know if i read
EAT RIGHT 4 YOUR TYPE, 2001.
Will it be much different from the newest books?
Any help or guidance will be appreciated.

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Welcome to this wonderful board & the world of the BTD!
You are sure to get encouragement here. We care. I hope you are resting & getting light exercise to work throught your grief. You need to deal with it, not just forget.

I am sure I am a nonnie, too. I finally ordered the test, but need to get over a coughing problem to take it.
But sometimes, we just know what we are!!!!!
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HI Scott and Welcome.

The biggest bang for the buck (imho) is to turn to the type A pages of either ER4YT or LR4YT and highlight all the beneficials that you love anyway. Go out and buy a whole bunch of those beneficials and start eating them.

Eat simple meals like "cod, carrots and peas"  or "brown rice sauteed in olive oil and garlic and onions". Make these favourites your staples for when you can't think of what to eat.

Now that you are munching on some fresh pineapple and drinking a lemonade made with honey and fresh lemons, you have time to read the books more in depth.

I found starting this way was easy and later I had enough energy to change other things.  

Later I found that cutting out wheat, milk and cheddar cheese completely got rid of my anxiety and a host of other problems. For me it was an overnight occurrence.

I started on the secretor diet, then I went to the non-secretor diet, now I am trying the GTD diet.

All the diets will help you in some regard because they all cut out additives and get you to simplify what you eat and you will learn to observe the effects the foods have on your body.

The bottom line is that only you know what will work for you . You just need to get in touch with that information that is already within you. The books are strong guidelines to get you doing that. The website is so you know you are not alone and that it is possible to improve every day.

Be kind and gentle with yourself.


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thanks for the info, i will look into your suggestions

I was wondering are the benificial foods immediatly benificial or only benificial in the long term to prevent disease?
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beneficials act like medicine!


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Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I don’t need the test.


You really can't know your secretor status without the test. People have guessed wrong both ways (me included  ). You may have guessed correctly, or you may not have

I'd start with Live Right 4 Your Type. It has everything you need to know. Double check the food lists with typebase http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm and you're set.

And as Gillian said, adding in as many bennies as you can is the way to go.






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Hello everybody, I have heard that there might be a correlation between being RH-negative and being secretor negative (non-secretor).

Does anyone know anything about that? Also I've read about green eyes and secretor status that there might be some correlation.

I have fibromyalgia (autoimmune disease) and green eyes, I am RH-negative and Le(a-b-) from blood test but do not know secretor status.


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You can help the other members of the forum help you by choosing a blood type shield to display beneath your name.

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http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/

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a correlation between being RH-negative and being secretor negative (non-secretor).

not necessarily, I as opposed to you am an RH positive yet a Lewis double negative like you, and we generally are considered non secretors.

doing the spit test will definitely point you to either a secretor or a non secretor status....

this lectin free lifestyle change will help you with your issues....
here are a few interesting links
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED063S
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075206948

http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=90479

http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Lewis_Blood_Group


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I am new to this so I did not know how to display the shield. I will get tested for secretor status but I  wonder if theres anything that might indicate secretor status.


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I have read a lot about Blood Type, Secretor and Lewis and have the book Eat Right For Your Blood Type. Since I was tested Le(a-b-) for Lewis I cannot determine yet what to choose from the diet.


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choose the non secretor guidelines for starts
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype2.htm
have you read LRFYT, that s where Dr D first mentions the non secretor issue.


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No, I did not know about newer books about this until recently. I haven't had fibromyalgia either before, became sick year 2001. Now after searching for correlations between blood groups I became interested in this again and have read some about secretor status and some suspectibility to get certain diseases. I then took Lewis blood test wich came out Le(a-b-). Some things about autoimmune disease, I have diagnosed fibromyalgia and recurrant urine tract infections is something I think I can recognise from the stuff I have read about being a non-secretor. But then I also read about having green eyes means being a secretor.


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I also read about having green eyes means being a secretor.


not necessarily either!
I also have green eyes....

glad you found your way to your BT shield.....


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yep..yep..yep...here I've to second missi Lola....Lewis types (a-b-)should take the coice of the non-secretor diet....(best for their bt-types )...
Don't forget the psychosomatic side of diseases...as well...
wish you all the best from the bottom of my heart.....

greetings outta Switzerland.......with blue-green eyes but being  an aproved nonnie ...


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Do you all "nonnies" know that being a non-secretor also means being protected from most common strings of noroviruses, do not know what you call it in english but in Sweden it is called "winter vomiting disease".


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I have also blue-green light eyes, Medium blonde hair. I took a Lewis test from my blood central, I've been a blood donor but now I cannot give blood because of fibromyalgia and eating sleeping pills. Is there anyone else that have fibromyalgia who know their secretor status (or Lewis) or are anyone with non-secretor status having certain health problems?


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are anyone with non-secretor status having certain health problems?


yes, I repeat, a low lectin diet will help you deal with your issues.
you have come to the right place!

a high percentage of Dr D s patients are non secretors


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[quote=3510]Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I don’t need the test.

I am a newbie here and i would just like to know the fastest way to get started and start the healing process. I am having all the symptoms of CFS which i think is due to mitochondrial malfunction. Mentally i have ADHD and severe anxiety.  I had a bunch of really bad things like death of loved ones and divorce and car crashes and business failure all happen at once and i have not recovered.   I fit the DSM IV criteria for PTSD aka post traumatic stress disorder.

Where can i get started to get the most benefit?

There are so many books, and i am not sure which one to read.


Hi Scott,
I'm so excited to see a fellow Hawaiian.  Welcome !  I'm pretty new to the forum too even though I started the diet 1 year ago.  I used to see someone from Maui & tried to talk w/ her.  My suggestion would be to take the GTD/BTD survey, click on the program tab & select which diet is best for you.  I started w/ eliminating the avoids first because of my health issues I suspected that food was triggering my symptoms.

Aloha!






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These ponderings be applied to our secretor community, as well.

Alia


I 2nd that !  That described me to the T.
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Elizabeth insists on wearing her socks turned inside out so the seam doesn't touch her toes.  Ya think she's a NONNIE?


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plus, it s good luck!!!


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Hello all you non-secretors, this is something for you:

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/reprint/45/8/2720.pdf

You are protected against the most common strings of noroviruses.


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   Någon annan från Sverige, va kul
I don't know my secretor status yet, but I am guessing I am a nonnie, nor do I know my lewis status...is it easy to get tested for lewis in Sweden?  
  I also have fybromyalgia.  Gluten intolerance, eczeme....
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Hej/hello, medavida   . Are you or have you been a blood donor. Then you can go to your blood central and ask them to print out all your data they have from you as a donor for free. Then if you're lucky they may have done a Lewis phenotype test on you. They usually don't do that on every blood donor but sometimes they do, in my family they did that on my father because some recipeint of his blood needed a Lewis phenotype to be done they explained to us. You can however find out if you are A1 or A2 for instance and if you are Rh-positive or negative. Otherwise if they haven't typed you for Lewis you can do a so called private "blodgruppsbestämning" including Lewis. You have to pay for that though. I payed 590 SEK for mine.


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Hi Vista,
I read a book about Fibro by Chantal Cabrera that was very helpful because she is a Dr + she also had fibro.  I say HAD because she now feels she is cured.  She lives in Canada & did it by life style change, diet, herbs & supplements. She also happens to live in Canada.
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Hello all,
Very new to the forums (first post) have been doing the BTD for about 3 months, and feel fantastic. I didn't have any major issues to start with, except for bloating, but that left me within days of starting, and have lost about 5kgs.

Oh my! I have not had my secretor test done, but if thread is anything to go by, I am DEFINITELY a nonnie! I never realized how many of these weird quirks I had.

I cannot sleep if there is any noise (tap dripping, snoring, persistent coughing) yet I cannot sleep if there is deafening silence either! I keep my tv set to timer when I go to sleep on a low droning volume for about 30min, which is usually enough time for me to drift off. But God forbid if something wakes me up after I am asleep. My husband drifts off anywhere, anytime, anyhow, mostly on the couch, whenever he stirs he gets up and comes to bed, 99% of the time waking me up in the process! Ahhhh!    One son sleeps like his father, the other like me (poor soul)

My family are all able to have conversations over eachother while the TV blares next to us, I have to turn it off to understand anything thats going on. I cannot read a book in the living room, too much noise, have to read in peace and quiet.
With all this noise sensitivity, I don't know how I have survived working in a noisy hair salon for 20 years! (I had to laugh about the hair tickling peoples faces, try getting cut hair all over your body eeeekkkk   )

My teeth are fine though? Not one filling  

I sooo distinctly remember as a child, complaining of my clothes itching (wool, lace, tags) and I still have to cut my tags off.

Have always been colder than the others around me (hands and feet especially) but that seems to have gotten better (mind you I still have winter to go )

Headlights - yes, I wear the sunglasses till dark too.  

One question, Does anyone else have restless leg syndrome? It drives me CRAZZZZY!!!  


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Another son: unknown 


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Try some calcium/magnesium before bed, NassMum.  And welcome to the forums!


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Secreter test results back, I AM a Nonnie!!!  


B  Rh+ Non-Secreter NOMAD, married to a O Rh-
One son: B
Another son: unknown 


Every day I seem to need an extra hour to get everything done I want to!

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Good to know!


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Quoted from angelighte
..., for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.
I think cos I didn't know what it meant but Im investigating more for myself now I will get used to the word more and hopefully become friends with it.

I often felt isolated and different as a child.



haha.... me too (on both)

I think the word is just (oh I can't think of a proper neutral word for it): lame, silly (all the other fitting words sound too harsh)

You don't have to be freinds with it; you can just use something else: NON, NBTS, N-Sec, etc.  : )
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I felt the same way about the word nonnie when I first joined the forums.  I don't use the word in my daily speech--I say non-secretor.  But it takes less time to type nonnie, so I use it here.


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I have been noticing how many of my patients have blue eyes ( I am a nurse).
They sometimes not always have multiple health issues, I often don't have room on my  history paper for all the allergies and surgeries, they have had.
An association exists between blue eyes and non-secretor, so many are but not all ( like one of those associations on the SAT)

I think 'Nonnie" in my head  as I take the history and of course smile to myself.
Even though I am not one of you:
I am watching out for you guys.

Maybe I could be an honorary memeber


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by all means!


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what's about being a honourable member ....you are more than welcomed in our royal club privé....


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It's so much nicer to be thought of as royalty, as opposed to the outcast, overly-sensitive cukoo  




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Princess and the Pea.....  


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G'day!  I'm a suspected nonnie and really love finding out I'm not the only hypersensitive one!

The term Nonnie doesn't bother me because it sounds more friendly than the medical non-secretor.  The word secrete doesn't have such a good connotation.  Most body secretions are gross.  So I would be proud to be a nonnie.  Sounds like you're not like everyone else which is true.

You suspect you're a nonnie when (tried to highlight some advantages):

Your hearing is so good that you can hear people talking about you in the next room or next building even.  People should go far away or just say nice things!!  
BONUS - You can hear mosquitos and judge where they are.  Not so good if they keep you awake at night though.

You tuck your feet out of the bed in summer because you don't like the to have your feet constricted.  Shoe shopping is a major chore and not the pleasure that apparently most women enjoy!  
BONUS - you can feel when the mosquito starts to bite you and send it to kingdom come.

Everything is so bright sometimes that you never leave the house without sunglasses (just in case you can't get home until daylight even!)  BONUS - The optometrist notices no damaged retina, you also have less wrinkles from squinting.  You can spot mosquitos and zap them quickly.  

You hate the feeling of anything getting under your fingernails.  Have trouble gardening because of it.  Maybe it's a defence mechanism because you can't repel germs as much?  Can't handle dirty hands.  BONUS: you're hands are clean to apply salve to mozzie bites.

Hypersensitive in every sense, you can cook without looking at the food and tell when dinner is ready by the smell.  Very fussy about food, sometimes difficult to dine out.
BONUS - you are a good cook but you end up doing all the baking for everyone!

My baby girl got bitten by mozzies yesterday and I'm not happy with them right now as you can see.
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Somewhere I read on here that someone as a kid used to make points on the satin lining of a blanket and rub it on the top of their fingertips because it feels nice.  I thought I invented that!!!  






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Yep, I think I am a Nonnie ...




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Ghee Whiz... I see myselve ...thanx for sharing.... btw...that'swhy I stopped bakings ....


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Ha ha! Thanks Tomatilla !  

Baking is too tempting, sugar sugar!    I love doing it.  Will investigate using fruit juice instead of sugar and non-wheat flours and making bread.  Will be interesting.

Maybe people won't want to eat them till I iron the recipees out.  More for me!


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until I've got it that it's da carbs who makes me fat instantly...so I stopped even to bake my own spelt bread I used to do ... ....
no fun to be a nonnie at this side ... ....but how fine to go for the animal proteins & veggies ....
found out a super source of chevapcicci made of lamb&turkey...wow soooo
yummy....with loads of garlic,onions red bell peppers .... wanna come and try   

in lr4yt...red bell peppers are ok for A2B nonnies!!!! yyyeeehhhaaa... my preferest veg.


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Ghee W., I got a kick out of reading your post.  My ankles got chewed up last night while I was eating dinner.  Grrrr, mosquitoes.  At least I heard the one in the bedroom last night and ended its miserable little life before it had a chance to suck anybody's blood.

Can you get frozen juice concentrate in Aus?  I use pineapple or apple juice concentrate sometimes in my baking instead of honey or agave, which is expensive.  One or two Tbsp. of concentrate and you've got the job done.


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Thanks Ribbit.  Congratulations on your beautiful baby, what a face!

Mozzies are the bane of my existance!  We have no flyscreens.  Our neighbour collects water in a wheelbarrow (water shortage) so they breed in there.  To open a window or not to open a window, that is the question!

Thanks for the great idea!   Good economical option too.  I know you can get orange juice concentrate here not sure of apple.  Will find out.  I've got a one-page list of explorer foods to take to the supermarket with me now.  Guess I'll be in there for a while! It's all fun.

Do you know the blood type of your new bub yet?  
Sorry so offtopic.


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Quoted from Symbi

Do you know the blood type of your new bub yet?  
Sorry so offtopic.


Another A!


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btw..to the other statements above..about fibromyalgia.. would be worthful to read or listen to Dr. John Sarno's statements...


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You might be a nonnie if:

The phrase: "Treat other people how you want to be treated" does not apply.

Any physical activity causes you to sweat.  I was given the nickname of "Sweat Monster"
back in the day when I played basketball when it was shirts vs skins. No one wanted to post up on me or face getting slimed.

You have to smell food or beverages before you eat or drink it.

The glass is neither half full or half empty.  The glass is just too big or too small.

You check the temprature of soups / pies etc.. with your pinkie finger.


I didn't think any of what I do was odd, but my wife and others....  



Be who you are.  Those who mind don't matter, those who matter won't mind.

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sooo funny thanx for sharing T M ......


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You also might be a Nonnie if when inquiring about a product in person or on the phone you get the response:

"no one has ever asked (me) that before"  or "I've never been asked that before and I've been here for 10 (or more) years"


Be who you are.  Those who mind don't matter, those who matter won't mind.

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  True, Tom.  I had a little something to say to the ADT people who wouldn't quit calling---she sat in shocked silence while I tried hard not to laugh--I can guarantee she'd never been told that before.


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that's what happened last week;  first time I was able to tell somebody to shut up .... I felt soooo
released.....ffftttt....


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Quoted from Ribbit


Another A!


Give me an A! Yeah for A!  

Amazing you havent had an O type (though maybe you wouldn't want to, would make mealtime more complicated).


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Theoretically we could, but here's a thought:  DH says type O is actually an A mutation.  With the both of us being on the GenoType Diet, it could be that since we've both reset our genes, that mutation won't occur.  I don't know, and I'm going way out on a limb here to even suggest that, but it's an interesting thought nonetheless.


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Hi nonnies!

After going through this thread and other related to nonnies, I have put nonnie characteristics in one page for easy reference. I have played with the wordings and language whereever I felt a need, but in some places the wordings are yours. So here it is:

Nonnie characteristics
Prevalence of certain health problems: 80% of "complex" patients - hard to diagnose properly and slow to cure. Increased susceptibility to bad intestinal bacteria, dental cavities, candida type infections, ulcer-causing bacteria, respiratory virus infections, and recurrent urinary tract infections (55-60% develop kidney scarring even with the regular use of antibiotics for UTIs). Higher incidence of autoimmune diseases including ankylosing spondylitis, reactive arthritis, psoriatic arthropathy, Sjogren's syndrome, multiple sclerosis, and Graves' disease (a common form of hyperthyroidism). More risk of inflamatory bowel problem, generalized inflammation, fibromyalgia (accounting for 80% of sufferers, regardless of blood type), syndrome X or insulin resistance and diabetes (which can cause impairment of triglyceride conversion, resulting in a lowered metabolic rate and edema). Higher rate of blood clotting, and alcoholic tendency among drinkers!

Hypersensitivities to sights, sounds, smells, tastes, and touch: it is either too hot or too cold; all shoes are too tight; waistbands itch; the hair tickles the face; the insides of the cheeks itch; seams on the insides of the socks have to be positioned so that they can't feel them at all when the shoes are on. Either hear sound too loudly or don't hear it at all; quick to judge others being too loud when they watch TV. Body odors (mouth and breathe too) on people can distract so much that they can't even be in the same room with them. Hate feeling closed in any situation: crowds, turtlenecks, and seatbelt; think they are meant to be a nudist.

Hair-trigger perspiration: perspire more than the average person (worse if fat, but even when skinny drip water from not just the arm pits). The sweat, though the heat makes it worse, has little to do with being hot.  Water cascades from the brow when concentrating very hard; any physical activity causes sweat.
  
Oversensitivity and caution about food and life: Before a wrong food even enters the mouth, are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that." Smell food or beverages before eating or drinking it. The glass is neither half full nor half empty.  The glass is just too big or too small. Check the temprature of soups/pies, with the pinkie finger. Crave for salt; prefer more salt than the others. Foods that others consider wonderful look more like rat poison on a silver platter.  Standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food (just to get people off the back) is "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

Craving for logicality and orderliness: as the house gets cluttered the anxiety level grows until they loose control or clean the house; are quick to throw stuff away to keep 'order'. Often need to set the desk up perfectly before begining a new project, but can let the desk fall apart in the middle of a project. Have to make bed before getting in it; don’t make the bed in the morning, because they like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed; before going to bed, make everything lined up and smooth with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.

Personality type: an introvert, intuitive, feeler, and judger (INFJ). Share feelings with anyone who listens, and has a huge empathy level for others.  Find it impossible to be angry with someone who has wronged as they tend to see their side of the story very clearly.  This leads to avoid any and all conflict until they blow up or the people involved leave the state.  At times feel that they are literally two personalities rolled into one.  Love talking to groups and crowds and hate being around groups and crowds at the same time. Too sensitive to the words people say (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?).



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Hi every body !

Thanks Kumar for this summary.
Tomatilla just suggested I am a nonnie (other thread) so I investigate.

I think I am more than 50% compliant with the description (my apparent disorder is highly ordered  ).  

I'll read other items in this forum  
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welcome "newbie" ;)   ....


Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far   ...

my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers  
the chaos in and outdoored ;) ...but I love it... and my motto is:
a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) ....... most of the times I do ;)  


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Yea Tomatilla. When it comes to desk, I often do have similar stuff but I occasionally keep them in order to give others the impression that I am not that careless.



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Kumar, it doesn't bothers me what others are thinking about me ....so what .........


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I am a secretor,  but my desk and tables are invaded by papers !
Papers for me and my father are a methastatic disorder... I try to be able to find what I need and I succeed the most of times , but when i have to put in order in a hurry, I'd whish to be more ordered !  I am super clean, at least not an OCD order too in my spaces !


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Every time I did the personality inventory, I was always ISTP. Even the friends that I have tested in the past did not change the type over the years (though some changes in scores could be observed.) Now I tried an online version the other day, it put me as INTJ! (the type they call a guardian). I need to re-do it to confirm whether I have really changed over time. (The online version was different from the one I have been using since the 80's.)



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*Cue Isa's enterance*

Isa will say we flip between P and J.  And that an Introvert often outwardly shows the opposite of what we really are.  


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this is written and fixed in the book of B-M. *gifts differings * this isn't from my glorious me....

and sorry intj's as all NT's are rationals...not guardians, Kumar...

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Kumar

Thanks for the brilliant summary.  Having just discovered that both my partner and I are nonnies, it's really useful to see what others have input to describe our interesting individuality  .

Can relate to about 90% of it I reckon  !

I'm an ENFJ (used to be ENFP the last time I did the MBTI many moons ago).

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Andy Pandy (Munchkin76),

Welcome! The summary I prepared is based on the several individual contributions by nonnies and others. Some of the criteria (in the summary) could be much weightier than the others though. For example, frequent infections of throat, gut, urinary tract by fungus (candida) or bacteria could be more reliable single indicator than other criteria (which might sometimes overlap with non-nonnies too!

And Tomatilla, I think you are right on the personality naming. I must have forgotten the exact type, as I still find it difficult to own it. I am looking for an old version of the test and judge if I have really changed over time. Thanks for the observation.



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welcome "newbie" ;)   ....Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far   :P ...my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers  :-/
the chaos in and outdoored ;) ;D...but I love it... and my motto is:
a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) ....... most of the times I do ;)  ;D
I am thinking this sounds more like my husband ;) Although I do share some of these traits ;) Am fascinated to find this out... Great job Kumar
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Welcome and go ahead Possum. The personality stuff tells about us much more than we usually think it does. A Russian social scientist discovered one significant dimension of temperament. He calls them "persons with strong nervous system" and "persons with weak nervous system". The "strong" ones are often disorganized, do excellent on real exams or tests, but do poorly on trials, and their hand writing is often poor (difficult for many to understand). The "weak" ones are well organized, have good handwriting, do excellent on trials but do poorly on the real exams and tests! And so on. So who knows you have strong husbands! (By the way, I too fall on this strong category.)



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Tomatilla you crack me up  !

Kumar, I definitely relate to the neverending stream of throat/ear infections!  I too fall into the Strong catagory.

Poss - you and your husband could be nonnies too!  Hope you get your test mischief managed soon!

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AP,

Welcome to the world of "strong nervous system" types. But it does not mean that we are really less nervous when the situation demands. We could be very timid by nature (despite being the strong type)!



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Thanks for the warm welcome!!

Indeed, despite being more towards the extroverted side ordinarily (ENFJ) with a stong nervous disposition, I can still be quite timid at time - depends on the circumstances.

So, Kumar have you had your secretor test done?  Are you a nonnie too!

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Well I have not done it yet and I will do it only when I am in a tour of some countries where they have this test. Or I will wait till the time India has this test. For the time being, I have assumed to be no nonnie but who knows?



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Thank you so much for this! I'm fairly new to BTD/GTD (totally new to the forum!), just ordered my secretor test, and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. But from what I've read I suspected I might be a nonnie, and the summary above has me 95% sure.

So I'm happy to know, and off to revise my list of foods yet again...  

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Ok, you might be a nonnie if you buy a pair of jeans that are the right length when you are standing, but 3 or 4 inches short when you sit down.  That darn upper / lower leg thing


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Thank You Kumar Your described my personality to a tee and I'm going to share it with a man friend of mine and maybe he will understand me better. lol
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You might be a Nonnie when: You are sitting upright in a computer type chair that can somewhat recline. Someone comes up behind you to talk or look at the computer screen with you and rests their hand on the backrest.  Not only can you can feel it, it is very physically annoying!


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Ok, you might be a nonnie if you buy a pair of jeans that are the right length when you are standing, but 3 or 4 inches short when you sit down.  That darn upper / lower leg thing

I never ever thought of that!!! Always thought Oh I mustn't have measured right when I hemmed them
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You might be a Nonnie when: You are sitting upright in a computer type chair that can somewhat recline. Someone comes up behind you to talk or look at the computer screen with you and rests their hand on the backrest.  Not only can you can feel it, it is very physically annoying!


Goodness me, that's me through and through!  Just thinking about it makes me shiver in irritation!

Well spotted Tom!

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Yes, about 8 pages ago we decided that the story of the Princess and the Pea really wasn't very funny.

I'm beginning to wonder if my 4 1/2 year old isn't a nonnie.  He's always pulling at the neck of his shirt.  They're all stretched out because he's always yanking at them saying they're too tight.  They're not even turtlenecks (which, oddly enough, he will wear sometimes).  He pulls at t-shirts and everything else too.


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I bet it was a nonnie who got the idea to print the tags on the insides of t-shirt necks instead of sewing them in.




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I bet so too.

I think I figured out what's up with DS's shirt-pulling.  Not to change the subject here, but since I mentioned it here, I may as well say what I think.  The last few days he's been saying he was having trouble breathing and really yanking on his shirt neck.  I tried to sound nonchalant to him, but I began to wonder if he's got asthma too.  Then today we were cleaning up in his bedroom and I happened to notice some black spots on the wall next to his bookshelf.  I pulled the bookshelf away from the wall and behind it is COVERED with mold.  I don't know where it came from!  I thought maybe a cup of water got spilled or something, but there's no cup or other indication of water having been there.  On the other side of that wall is the chimney, so I'm wondering if the chimney is allowing water to soak through to the inside.  DH has got a big job on his hands when he gets home.  We may have to cut out a section of the wall and replace it.  Until then, I've shut the bedroom door and told them to stay out.


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Wise move shutting the room off Leanne!

I have asthma and fungal spores are the worst for creating breathing problems with me.  Well spotted and I hope your DS is okay once the mould mischief is managed!

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On the basis of just this thread I am a nonnie and so was my mother whose book, "The Highly Sensitive Person" I inherited when she died. The whole bunch of posts on being sensitive to textures of clothing, sounds, smells, etc. was my experience growing up. My daughter has the same kinds of sensitivities, so I will assume she is also a nonnie. My own experience at age 8 with the 'Dreaded Yellow Sunday Dress' gave me the experience to buy only one new pair of anything for my daughter until we knew she could tolerate the texture of the clothing. We gave many a set of socks, jeans, shirts, and dresses to the local woman's shelter until we found some brand that would work for her. Then we would buy the article of clothing in every color they had. I wish my own mom had done that for me. I had to learn it for myself. I remember going to the shoe store before I could read and turning over every pair of tennis shoes to find the ones with a specific sole that felt best. My dad never understood that.
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[/quote]On the basis of just this thread I am a nonnie and so was my mother whose book, "The Highly Sensitive Person" I inherited when she died. The whole bunch of posts on being sensitive to textures of clothing, sounds, smells, etc. was my experience growing up. My daughter has the same kinds of sensitivities, so I will assume she is also a nonnie. My own experience at age 8 with the 'Dreaded Yellow Sunday Dress' gave me the experience to buy only one new pair of anything for my daughter until we knew she could tolerate the texture of the clothing. We gave many a set of socks, jeans, shirts, and dresses to the local woman's shelter until we found some brand that would work for her. Then we would buy the article of clothing in every color they had. I wish my own mom had done that for me. I had to learn it for myself. I remember going to the shoe store before I could read and turning over every pair of tennis shoes to find the ones with a specific sole that felt best.  My dad never understood that. [quote]


What a wonderful statement by one who has seen the wisdom of acknowledging that the world is as it is and all else is illusion.. I suffered all my early years but never thought about it much - just accepted it as that this is the way life is- no one then knew the difference - no one was guilty- no one made me do anything-

Then I experienced a change in diet - and from that day on I knew that I had suffered all my life- and with it came my quest for knowledge- I searched knowing my life depended on it- I became not single minded- but unshaken in my need to find answers to who "I" am.. I FOUND IT AS A NONNIE.. and I understand that life is not on illusion - unattainable- but real every time someone experiences PROFOUND change, acceptance and action - the world is a much better place for us NONNIES in it.. WHAT A THREAD!!!!!!!!!! Thanks all types of Nonnies.....

I would have a question:  Are Nonnies ever afraid?? or are we brave?? how has it changed who we are? Are we more tolerant? More sharing?


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"I would have a question:  Are Nonnies ever afraid?? or are we brave?? how has it changed who we are? Are we more tolerant? More sharing?" What's been your experience?

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I knew fears very well until I recognized how I did the creations of em on my own... when once got the ahhaaa... wew... I became very clearsighted and no more fears at all     about braveness... oops how borings, isn't it ....about sharing...yep this is one of my preferst things, i can't be without it ....coz it's a normal behaviour.... I think...


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Hi nonnie folks,

What a great sharing! If some of you have had no chance to test your secretor status as yet, a simple blood test for Serum Alkaline Phosphatase might also indicate that you are likely to be a nonnie: nonnies tend to score about 20% as compared to secretors. Symbi has found out a good site for study if someone is interested in the findings.

May I ask a sensitive question to all of you nonnies? Are nonnies sexier (in physical and emotional sense and not in the sense of beauty as such)? (I ask this question based on some of my observations, where suspected nonnies did appear to be so.) Please do not get annoyed by the question and forgive me if I have put a wrong question.



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Are you thinking Nonnies are more adventurous Kumar I would consider myself to be more of a flirt (if that counts for being sexy) & love male attention & company, more than women's

Sorry if that offends any women - its not that I don't enjoy women friends - its just that I have never been one to "go out with the girls" I always have preferred the dynamics of mixed company...
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Interesting questions.

As a kid, I was a little too brave for my own good. Several times I did stuff that could have gotten me killed.    I still have that streak in my nature, but life has toned it down some.

And as for the sexy part...I don't know. Maybe I should put up my picture and see what y'all think.  
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This would make a great face book site Non -secretors Using Eat Right for Your Type.. Needs a nonnie in charge.


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Bought some Guinness beer recently, but the beer tasted too strong for me. That's the only way I can describe it. I was wincing while tasting it. Oooo! So I would pour some in a glass full of ice and then add an inch of flavored coffee creamer in it to take the edge off. Sort of turned it into an iced coffee beer.

Does this sound like something a Nonnie would do?? Just wondering.
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I asked the question are nonnies afraid, brave, and sharing.. and I did mot even know the answers.. I am adventurous, I want to go with someone some where for a good reason, I think I am poor at doing it alone, sharing yes that is the spice if living..  yet the reason I asked .. did the nonnie thing make us stronger, dependent? and understanding more or less because we are nonnies.. as for the sexy thing- romance loyalty and committment .. IF one finally feels good then it's up for grabs..


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I am a nonnie, very adventuresome.  Traveled through Europe on my own in my late teens and early 20's.

Used to ski some very gnarly stuff before my Achilles Tendon surgeries.  I get more speeding tickets than my husband.  Like to try anything once.  

I would consider myself more curious than brave, I have a fear of heights, I cannot do the trapeze.  

I love to share or be altruistic.  
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first time i have seen this and have not been tested but there is a good probability i am a noni.
the moto here is: please don't touch and don't overwhelm me with your presence    
i like and relate to this, even to the point were other people subconsously avoid touching me. my ex was an exseption. he was always wanted to touch me, grab me, hold me..... and it drove me litterly nuts to the point were i did things just to keep him off! when people go to toucht me i warn them to tell me first if they want to keep that hand. i automaticly lash out at an unexspected toucht! five min of cuddling was five min too long.
sounds? high pitches rake my nervs like claws. i even hear dog wistles! low pitches i might hear but they are just there.
light? as a teen i had green chritmas light on my ceiling and i was happy with that as my only light. i read by them and every thing. i HATE those new blue car lights!!! i hate them. they actuly HURT. regular car lights i can't see past untill they go past. though last night i had a kid come though drive through at night with yellow glasses on. i asked about it and he said it helps with the oncomming car lights. i don't normally drive at night during a time were there are alot of other cars but i am going to try this next time i do.
tickling hair? ichy noses and ears? oh yes and i have great hair i hate to have to put it up becuse it is the one thing i get complaments on. and if a hair gets off and tickels the back of my arm i go nuts tring to get it. and god forbid it wriggle it's way into my pants!
i never realy thought about seams but now you guys mention it i buy victorias secreat becuse their underwear has no seams! and i love those painted on lables, tags will actuly give me a rash from rubbing. i have had pants to that to my hips before i switched to hip huggers. and i am very picky on my shoes. i tell shoe sellers on my way in "i know what i want and if you don't have it don't waist your time tring to sell me something else"
sexy? i don't think so but guys do seem to be attracted to me.


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And as for the sexy part...I don't know. Maybe I should put up my picture and see what y'all think.   

Personally, & from what guys tell me, I don't think sexy is all about looks...(not that I'm considered bad looking btw)

They reckon there are some gorgeous looking women who are absolute ice maidens who don't give off any vibes other than, I know I'm gorgeous but don't you dare... That's not sexy - Apparently its about warmth, vitality, sensuality...
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Yes, Possum. sensuality, warmth and vitality: I have something like these in mind when I think of being sexy. (more in the biological sense and in a sense of heightened need for sex).



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i can be a terrible flirt with out even meaning too. dose that help?


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Well Battle Dwarf, what one does actually is a different matter but my point is more on the biological urge from inside: flirting could well be a safe outlet for deep sensual urges!



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maybe, i have 3ed degree (fresh) emtional burns right now. i have always been out going and prefer guys as company to girls. the girls i know around here are all so....girly. i am a natural tom boy and to guys i am usuly "one of the guys". my ex always said i was sexy but i think he was only thinging about his smaller self.    


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Same here, Battle Dwarf.  I'm quite the tom boy and have worked hard to "redo" myself in attempt to be a little more feminine.  (Not trying to start an uproar here, I'm just sayin'.)


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Same here, Battle Dwarf.  I'm quite the tom boy and have worked hard to "redo" myself in attempt to be a little more feminine.  (Not trying to start an uproar here, I'm just sayin'.)


This is me, too! Plus I still think I look kind of like a kid (not in a young, good way though).


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I think I know about the flirtatious/sexy thing.

There is a - for lack of a better word - charisma that some have that turn heads of the opposite gender (and the same in jealously).   My girlfriend at the age of seventeen had that ability.  She had black hair, blue eyes, and a shortened hourglass figure.  A definite Explorer, she could command the eyes of all males from the age of seven to seventy in the room.  The Explorer Monograph does not do her natural (to her) ability justice by half.  She was not beautiful, but she was somehow magnetic.  The worst slurs were whispered about her (not true), and no young woman had a good word to say about her.

I always thought that she would do great things on stage with that strange power of hers.  I never connected her figure, her charisma, and her loneliness before reading the last part of this thread; a non-secreting explorer.

All I can say about myself is that my pulse will increase even if just a reasonably attractive woman enters the room.

Historically, would extra friskiness and a kindred sympathy that preferentially pairs non-secretors together, account for the non-secretor gene from disappearing?  Do non-secretors have more children on average?


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Paul, I'll start a poll and maybe we can see.

Edited:  It seems to me, after I posted the poll, I remember reading that nonnies are usually very fertile.  But I don't know if that's because we emit pheromones and attract the opposite sex.....or if our wombs are just really sticky.


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I called my sister on her birthday, and she is still a "tom boy" much like battle dwarf.  Even with two pre-schoolers to care for.

Plays soccer in a men's team twice a week and works out in the gym on other days.  I am confident she is an Explorer given her rangy big boned frame.  She certainly has to exercise to keep the flab off - she told me that herself!  She is in Shanghai now, and has mixed feelings about going back to Stuttgart with the family when her husband's posting in China is over.

I would say that she enjoyed flirting when she was single.  She learned early on how to fend off unwanted male attention.  She is a true extrovert, who is fluent in quite a few languages.


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A French Engineer.

There was a tri-lingual wedding and reception English/French/German.  I appreciated the trip to Normandy.

Her ability with modern languages came as a surprise to her in college.  She has a dominant personality that went down quite well teaching German executives how to speak English.



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Paul please explain more ..what is meant with hourglass figue... poor lady, I feel really deeply with her....

btw...it's amazing to feel as a neutrum.... ,


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Not sure about a shortened hour glass figure... but an hourglass means a curvy "egg timer" shape = very slim waist with accentuated hips & bust...in proportion to each other...

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yea i got one of those figures. one of my grannies always said i had a "cute" shape. got a new pc and the board is a bit different. i keep reaching for the back space and hitting the num loc on the kye pad! at lest i am not hitting the finger pad and jumping around the paragraph...yet.


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with best regards to all ;)

Habibi ya nour el - my darling you are the....
or better said: Ishtar Alabina:Habibi ya nour el ain



fine to google ;) under ishtar
but difficult to find out ...sorry.... ....but when found... go and let shake your body....(answer to Pauls issues..no ;) ...yeeeeaaaa... ...go..go..gooo..for it...   ;) ....

couldn't get it better but it's a beautiful mix between arab, israelian and gipsy musique... worth to listen and observe.... ;)
this is one of my patterns....nooo this is completely me...yep I've to admit... my culture.. all you can imagine...Yaman...do you understand right now ;) .....
this was for me the Samos meeting with ya.... ooold souls, rememberings  and storries ;)...there were some beautiful pics taken from our discussion....and here this musique begun.... hey I'm talkin from da musique ;) ....


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sounds like my kind of music. i love middle eastern and mixed culter music.  


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I think one might be a nonnie when one asks a lot of questions..

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Is it possible for the secretor tests to be wrong? I can relate to everything you guys are talking about and I have celiac disease and dental problems but I just got my secretor status back and it says I'm a secretor. I thought for sure I'd be a nonnie.
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not likely, no

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Reading through this thread has convinced me to order the secretor test kit.  I really need to wait another week with the holiday and first of month at hand though.  

I have strong suspicions that I'm a nonnie and would be very surprised to find out otherwise.
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Thanks for this thread, wondering now if I'm a nonnie!  Does it change the A (teacher) diet loads?
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if the basic teacher diet were not giving you the results you need, then a swami might be the next step, and that would be an individualized fit.....

but no need to go there if the basic teacher diet in the book works like a charm, which in fact happens to many


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You know, I had suspicions that I was a nonnie because I have multiple chemical sensitivity ( self-diagnosed) and the sensory issues that go with being on the autistic spectrum ( formally diagnosed).
The test I ordered from NAP says I am a secretor. I wonder if I need to be re-tested?


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if you feel adapting your secretor status in both BT and GT is simply not working, then by all means, test as often as you consider enough......
would being a nonnie change your GT in any way?


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No it wouldn't change my GenoType. According to the book, if you are female and a non secretor you must be Rh positive to be an Explorer. All I'm really saying is that I have some of the characteristics of a "nonnie".


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Here's my take on Explorers.  It seems to me that I play Explorer in real life even though I measure a Warrior.  I wonder if secreting Explorers are the closest GenoType to being nonnies. That probably doesn't make much sense scientifically, but I'm not sure how else to explain it.  It just seems to me, reading how you Explorers react to things, if you're not a Nonnie, you may as well be one.  Does that make any sense to anybody but me?


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Yes, Ribbit.  But you already know what I think about that.

You would be a Warrior/Explorer mix.  I am related to three female Explorers who are likely all secretors.  Untangling the differences between nonnie Explorer and Rh -ve would clear things up a little.


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You might be a nonnie if... the sound of crinkling water bottles drives you nuts.  

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You might be a nonnie if... the sound of crinkling water bottles drives you nuts.  

My 7 year old daughter loves to sqeeze the plastic bottle and make that awful crinkling noise when the bottle is empty.  I don't know why but it is super annoying.


Nahhhh...I'm a nonnie and LOVE to squeeze those bottles ...but then again, I also like to "pop" bubble wrap...

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