True, Tom. I had a little something to say to the ADT people who wouldn't quit calling---she sat in shocked silence while I tried hard not to laugh--I can guarantee she'd never been told that before.
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"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."Â Â I Corinthians 6:12
Theoretically we could, but here's a thought: DH says type O is actually an A mutation. With the both of us being on the GenoType Diet, it could be that since we've both reset our genes, that mutation won't occur. I don't know, and I'm going way out on a limb here to even suggest that, but it's an interesting thought nonetheless.
ISTJ, BTD since 5/05.  Battling chronic Lyme disease since ~1985.
"Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial..."Â Â I Corinthians 6:12
After going through this thread and other related to nonnies, I have put nonnie characteristics in one page for easy reference. I have played with the wordings and language whereever I felt a need, but in some places the wordings are yours. So here it is:
Nonnie characteristics Prevalence of certain health problems: 80% of "complex" patients - hard to diagnose properly and slow to cure. Increased susceptibility to bad intestinal bacteria, dental cavities, candida type infections, ulcer-causing bacteria, respiratory virus infections, and recurrent urinary tract infections (55-60% develop kidney scarring even with the regular use of antibiotics for UTIs). Higher incidence of autoimmune diseases including ankylosing spondylitis, reactive arthritis, psoriatic arthropathy, Sjogren's syndrome, multiple sclerosis, and Graves' disease (a common form of hyperthyroidism). More risk of inflamatory bowel problem, generalized inflammation, fibromyalgia (accounting for 80% of sufferers, regardless of blood type), syndrome X or insulin resistance and diabetes (which can cause impairment of triglyceride conversion, resulting in a lowered metabolic rate and edema). Higher rate of blood clotting, and alcoholic tendency among drinkers!
Hypersensitivities to sights, sounds, smells, tastes, and touch: it is either too hot or too cold; all shoes are too tight; waistbands itch; the hair tickles the face; the insides of the cheeks itch; seams on the insides of the socks have to be positioned so that they can't feel them at all when the shoes are on. Either hear sound too loudly or don't hear it at all; quick to judge others being too loud when they watch TV. Body odors (mouth and breathe too) on people can distract so much that they can't even be in the same room with them. Hate feeling closed in any situation: crowds, turtlenecks, and seatbelt; think they are meant to be a nudist.
Hair-trigger perspiration: perspire more than the average person (worse if fat, but even when skinny drip water from not just the arm pits). The sweat, though the heat makes it worse, has little to do with being hot. Water cascades from the brow when concentrating very hard; any physical activity causes sweat.
Oversensitivity and caution about food and life: Before a wrong food even enters the mouth, are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that." Smell food or beverages before eating or drinking it. The glass is neither half full nor half empty. The glass is just too big or too small. Check the temprature of soups/pies, with the pinkie finger. Crave for salt; prefer more salt than the others. Foods that others consider wonderful look more like rat poison on a silver platter. Standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food (just to get people off the back) is "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."
Craving for logicality and orderliness: as the house gets cluttered the anxiety level grows until they loose control or clean the house; are quick to throw stuff away to keep 'order'. Often need to set the desk up perfectly before begining a new project, but can let the desk fall apart in the middle of a project. Have to make bed before getting in it; don’t make the bed in the morning, because they like to let the mattress ventilate. In the morning, turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed; before going to bed, make everything lined up and smooth with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.
Personality type: an introvert, intuitive, feeler, and judger (INFJ). Share feelings with anyone who listens, and has a huge empathy level for others. Find it impossible to be angry with someone who has wronged as they tend to see their side of the story very clearly. This leads to avoid any and all conflict until they blow up or the people involved leave the state. At times feel that they are literally two personalities rolled into one. Love talking to groups and crowds and hate being around groups and crowds at the same time. Too sensitive to the words people say (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?).
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welcome "newbie" ;) ....
Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far ...
my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers the chaos in and outdoored ;) ...but I love it... and my motto is: a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) ....... most of the times I do ;)
Yea Tomatilla. When it comes to desk, I often do have similar stuff but I occasionally keep them in order to give others the impression that I am not that careless.
I am a secretor, but my desk and tables are invaded by papers ! Papers for me and my father are a methastatic disorder... I try to be able to find what I need and I succeed the most of times , but when i have to put in order in a hurry, I'd whish to be more ordered ! I am super clean, at least not an OCD order too in my spaces !
Every time I did the personality inventory, I was always ISTP. Even the friends that I have tested in the past did not change the type over the years (though some changes in scores could be observed.) Now I tried an online version the other day, it put me as INTJ! (the type they call a guardian). I need to re-do it to confirm whether I have really changed over time. (The online version was different from the one I have been using since the 80's.)
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Kumar
Thanks for the brilliant summary. Having just discovered that both my partner and I are nonnies, it's really useful to see what others have input to describe our interesting individuality .
Can relate to about 90% of it I reckon !
I'm an ENFJ (used to be ENFP the last time I did the MBTI many moons ago).
AP
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Welcome! The summary I prepared is based on the several individual contributions by nonnies and others. Some of the criteria (in the summary) could be much weightier than the others though. For example, frequent infections of throat, gut, urinary tract by fungus (candida) or bacteria could be more reliable single indicator than other criteria (which might sometimes overlap with non-nonnies too!
And Tomatilla, I think you are right on the personality naming. I must have forgotten the exact type, as I still find it difficult to own it. I am looking for an old version of the test and judge if I have really changed over time. Thanks for the observation.
welcome "newbie" ;) ....Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far :P ...my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers :-/ the chaos in and outdoored ;) ;D...but I love it... and my motto is: a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) ....... most of the times I do ;) ;D
I am thinking this sounds more like my husband ;) Although I do share some of these traits ;) Am fascinated to find this out... Great job Kumar
Welcome and go ahead Possum. The personality stuff tells about us much more than we usually think it does. A Russian social scientist discovered one significant dimension of temperament. He calls them "persons with strong nervous system" and "persons with weak nervous system". The "strong" ones are often disorganized, do excellent on real exams or tests, but do poorly on trials, and their hand writing is often poor (difficult for many to understand). The "weak" ones are well organized, have good handwriting, do excellent on trials but do poorly on the real exams and tests! And so on. So who knows you have strong husbands! (By the way, I too fall on this strong category.)
Welcome to the world of "strong nervous system" types. But it does not mean that we are really less nervous when the situation demands. We could be very timid by nature (despite being the strong type)!
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Kumar
Thanks for the warm welcome!!
Indeed, despite being more towards the extroverted side ordinarily (ENFJ) with a stong nervous disposition, I can still be quite timid at time - depends on the circumstances.
So, Kumar have you had your secretor test done? Are you a nonnie too!
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Well I have not done it yet and I will do it only when I am in a tour of some countries where they have this test. Or I will wait till the time India has this test. For the time being, I have assumed to be no nonnie but who knows?
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Thank you so much for this! I'm fairly new to BTD/GTD (totally new to the forum!), just ordered my secretor test, and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. But from what I've read I suspected I might be a nonnie, and the summary above has me 95% sure.
So I'm happy to know, and off to revise my list of foods yet again...
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Ok, you might be a nonnie if you buy a pair of jeans that are the right length when you are standing, but 3 or 4 inches short when you sit down. That darn upper / lower leg thing
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