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There is Wax Orchards. CLICK.  Fruit sweetened fudge sauce, but there is the "natural flavoring".

Thanks for the Wax Orchards tip and link. It looks like they have some interesting products.

I wish they listed the ingredients on their website. However, I finally found one of their on line resellers that listed the ingredients, but they didn't list/sell all the Wax Orchards products. I also wish they offered an organic product line.



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At one point, I emailed the company and asked about ingredients, and they were quick to send a reply.
But that was three years ago, and I don't remember the details on the natural ingredients.  Everything else was just simple stuff, though.  At that time, I wasn't so much into the "fine print" like I am now!
(Eccentric, is the word!   )

Beware of that Fudge Sauce.  It's actually too good . . I mean, like eating it out of the jar, Good!  



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...At that time, I wasn't so much into the "fine print" like I am now!
(Eccentric, is the word!   )

Oh, I've informed my co-workers that I'm now officially a "health food nut" and don't even TRY to figure me out or why I won't eat this or that which they might think, from what little they attempt to understand of my diet, I could eat.  Just let me be the nut that I am and no one gets hurt!


edited to add:  That reminds me, I've GOT to post on TI yesterday.  I deserve some kind of award, that's all there is to that one!  I just sayin'!


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I, too, mainline the olive oil.  It even surprises me how much I can eat.  I seem to need the fat to feel full.  I even add oil to avocados as well.
PT, I'm glad you survived the relatives' visit & are determined to go grain-free.  [I also like Pamela's stuff, too.  Occasionally I have gotten the lowest-sugar ones & they are sooooo addictive!!]
My main HFS is 'closed for remodeling' which I suspect may be something worse.  I hope they can open up again.  They've been there over 30 years.
Whole Foods is near the bakery where I work, but I can't afford too much of it & am afraid they won't have the brands I got used to like Carlson's & Twinlab vitamins.
We will see. Meanwhile, keep encouraging us, too, as we hope to encourage you!
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Beware of those Pamela's, Mrs. T.  Right, Jane?  They are seriously, seriously likely to produce a sharp spike in your blood sugar, followed by cravings for more and more carbies, carbies, carbarinos!  Wu HUUUUUUUUUU!  They are, in other words, a "trigger" for derailment.

Sadly, we all concur:  they are soooooooooooooooo good.  I'm partial to the Lemon Shortbreads myself...omg, stop thinking of them, PT!  Mrs. T.!  Now you've gone and done it!  Ya had to mention Pamela's!

Okay, I'm cool...I'm cool!  Everyone return to your homes, there's nothing more to see here!


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I have this feeling that we nonnies are more vulnerable to carbs.

Nonnies of all the blood types are allowed fewer grains than the secretors get, according to Dr. D's lists.  I also find myself almost grain free, after living mainly on grains during my nearly 25 years of "trying to be a vegetarian".  Oh, the horrors!!!  And no doubt, I am a different person (for the better, yes!) eating the way I do now.



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Let's remember that Pamela's are also expensive.  We can always plead poverty-so we can save money to buy more meat!!! !
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Update!

I'm up to 7 to 10 lbs lost now, in 10 days.  This DOESN'T happen with me!  I haven't seen the scale boogie like this in years.  Since we are in a political season, I'll paraphrase an old political slogan as I did earlier in the thread:  "It's the grains, stupid."

I know it can't keep up like this and it will slow drastically, but if it at least keeps moving, even with a short plateau here and there, yay.  YAY, I tell you!

Excitement reigns.


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P.S.  I only have about 50 more lbs. to lose from this point forward.  nunudoc says I need to get down to twig status, but I'll settle for just being a nice, solid branch.


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I'm with you there Peppermint Twist - I'm sure I'm not intended to be a twig.  Solid branch will do me nicely, if I ever get there........  

You seem to be going great guns without the grains - brilliant!!!


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I'm with you there Peppermint Twist - I'm sure I'm not intended to be a twig.  Solid branch will do me nicely, if I ever get there........  

You seem to be going great guns without the grains - brilliant!!!

 I can't believe it, kipperkid.  I really can't.  Disbelief reigning, right along with excitement.

Whoa.

If this works and I get down to anything even approaching my goal, I will have "gotten it" finally about grains and me.  I swear this to you here and now.  Message received:  Twisty + grains = fat.

So then people think I'm on this "low carb" diet but what is so funny/fascinating/proof of the BTD is that this isn't low-carb.  I eat sweet potatoes.  I eat bananas.  I eat concord grape concentrate.  I eat beans.  I eat nuts.  True, I'm eating a lot more low-glycemic carbs (romaine lettuce, etc.) versus the high-glycemic grains of choice (like rice cakes--those suckers are apparently off the GI charts), but still.  This isn't low carb.  It isn't anything reductionist.  That's why no one but you guys gets it.  It isn't any sort of reductionist label.  It is pure BTD and it is working and no one gets that, which is what Brig is talking about as an aside in her Oprah post, but we get it, so yay!  Let everyone else figure it out when they figure it out, I'm sick of trying to educate 'em *lol*!  Meanwhile, to quote an Applebee's ad, of all things, I'm "eatin' good in the neighborhood!"



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That is what I love so much about this diet - when I'm good about doing it consistantly - which I'm still struggling with - but I know I'll get back there eventually.  But anyway - I think people think I'm eating low carb but I'm so not and I know my body thanks me for it - we're just eating the right ones full of nutrients.  And I'm finally back to my morning fruit smoothies - which when I have those on a consistant basis I seem to do the absolute best with everything else BTD related - even though they're packed with carbs they are important for me to have consistantly.  


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But anyway - I think people think I'm eating low carb but I'm so not and I know my body thanks me for it - we're just eating the right ones full of nutrients.

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And I'm finally back to my morning fruit smoothies - which when I have those on a consistant basis I seem to do the absolute best with everything else BTD related

Bidiuk again!


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. . .  And I'm finally back to my morning fruit smoothies - which when I have those on a consistant basis I seem to do the absolute best with everything else BTD related - even though they're packed with carbs they are important for me to have consistantly.  


I'm with you on this one!  My morning Power Drink is a major player in my daily wellness program.  And there is so much room for experimenting with ingredients to add protein, vitamins, green stuff, beneficial fruits and juices, lecithin, etc.  (nutritional yeast!!!) (ground flax!!!!!)  



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Update:  The good news is that I exercised my ever-lovin' butt off this weekend.  My neighbor and bud (the one who originally showed me a copy of ER4YT, yay!) and I went on a marathon walk through our city.  I am talking, we walked from our houses (center of the city) to the east side of the city, then around this lake that has a walking trail around it, twice (hello, plantar fasciitis!), and back home.  Unlike me, who never stops when I am driving or walking alone, she made us stop in Starbucks so that she could pee and it just affirmed to me that I never need to go into a Starbucks.  My, my, MY.  Seven bucks and change for a coffee?  Well, it really isn't coffee, it is caffeinated dessert, but still, seven bucks?  And that was just the one I saw, I stopped glancing at the menu board after that.  I found the assortment of yupped-out people in there far more fascinating, as a cultural anthropology major.  But anyway, lived through that little sidebar and then on the way back, she made me stop at a 7-11 so she could buy us each a bottle of water, which ended up being the best thing anyone ever did for me, as nothing has ever tasted as good to me as that ice cold water did at that moment!  I knew I was thirsty but had no idea how thirsty until I started drinking that water.  It was then I realized that, had she not bought me that water, I would have expired on the way home fer shuuur.

Anyway, my foot was an awful sitch and is only now getting back to "normal" (which is still bad, but let's stay on topic), but other than that, the bod did great!  I could have gone another round the next day, if not for the foot thing.

2.  The bad news is that I have not lost any further weight in the last few days and may even have gained one pound.  I'm tending to panic a bit here over that because what if that little amazing spurt was it and now I'm back to Plateau City for the duration?  I hope not.  I'm just gonna keep on walking the grain-free walk and hope for the best.

And that's the latest from Grain-Free Central!  

P.S.  Did youzz know that blenders are up there in cost now?  30 or 40 buckaroos.  Doesn't seem like much but day-uuum, they used to be like 15 bucks a pop, ya know?  Oh!  Off topic:  I saw this thing on TV about the house of the future and it says it will have a way to "print out" a new blender if your blender breaks.  I am not making that up.


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Okay sib--don't worry about the weight loss stopping. I suspect you lost water weight initially; you know how that works. DO NOT PANIC. Now your body is ready to start the process of converting fat into energy, and doing it much more efficiently! Good times ahead!

You might consider taking a bottle of water with you when you walk. Let it warm up. Drinking ice cold water is really hard on your heart; cool water is better (though I know the cold stuff tastes good). That way you stay hydrated and stress your body out less. Small mouthfuls when you pause to take your pulse work best, in my experience.

I'm just now getting back to walking every other day. The summer heat totally trashed me, and I responded by getting hooked on wheat and other bad stuff again. Now I understand why that happened, and know that the best way to deal with summertime heat is to lose weight. And I'm doing it in a slow, responsible way, so that it will stay off and my health won't suffer. So you've got a partner twinnie! We just happen to be a few hundred miles apart, that's all.

In the priceless moments category, I truly wish it was possible to share my doctor's expression when I told him that I eat two eggs or some lamb or turkey sausage and a cup or more of kale, very lightly sauteed in olive oil and ghee, for breakfast every morning--and that's how my cholesterol and blood sugar came down to normal levels. He simply could not believe it. Heeeeee!


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Cold water is hard on your heart?  That's a new one, far as things I've ever heard of go.  I was actually psyched about the coldness level of the water, not only because it felt heavenly going down, but because I have heard that ice cold water consumed during exercise (or, actually, what I heard did not specify when the consumption should take place, it just said...the following) helps you lose weight by getting your metabolism going somehow.  And when I commented on that to my bud, she said, yeah, because...but I forget what she said.  It made sense though.

I usually drink my water at room temp., fyi.  I must secretly be British, and I base that conclusion on many reasons/clues, only one of which is that there is a British saying that:  Americans like their homes too warm and their beer too cold.  I'm with the Brits, I don't like my house over-heated and I don't like my beverages too cold, although too hot is even worse, but the point is that I'm a room temp. kinda gal.  I never have a cold beverage to offer visitors because I only drink Gerolsteiner and I keep a case of the stuff in the garage, retrieving as needed.  *shrug*


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According to TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) or at least this is what I've been told over the years, drinking or eating anything that is cold is hard on your organs, period. Drinking or eating food that is hot also is not good for your organs.

Victoria, correct me if I'm confused about this, but my acupuncturist said I should give up drinking cold foods/drinks because it was over taxing my lungs.


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Well, that may be true most of the time but I'll tell you what, that ice-cold water at that moment was the only thing standing between me and the pearly gates *lol*.  Seriously, I do think that the cold was good for me at the time, as I was over-heated.  If I could have simultaneously plunged myself into the ocean while drinking it, even better.  As it was, this was the next best thing.

As a rule, though, I like my beverages and my food closer to tepid than anything else.  No one else in my family is like that, btw.  They like their hot food and hot beverages BOILING to the point of burning one's (well, my) tongue.  I always have to wait for everything to cool down but not them, boy, they drink beverages at temperatures that would boil away my tongue (eeeeew--did I just write that?  Sorry to be so graphic...).


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According to TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) or at least this is what I've been told over the years, drinking or eating anything that is cold is hard on your organs, period. Drinking or eating food that is hot also is not good for your organs.

Victoria, correct me if I'm confused about this, but my acupuncturist said I should give up drinking cold foods/drinks because it was over taxing my lungs.


Hi Drea,
According to TCM, extremes of temperatures in foods tax the internal organs.  I think it was back in the 70's, when people were trying to find ways of losing weight that involved no self control, they would eat foods that cost more calories to digest than the food provided for the body's sustenance.  At that time, some people ate their food icy cold because the theory was that it took so many calories to warm up their digestive tract, they would then burn more calories than they were ingesting and thus, lose weight.    A good way to throw the system out of whack!

Probably occasionally, it won't do much harm, but as a daily practice, I'd say beware.  
On a hot day, cool drinks can be a wonderful treat, never with ice in it, though.  And if it's straight out of the cooler, maybe let it warm just a few degrees.  Better to use the bottle on your forehead for a few minutes while it warms up and your face cools down.  Cold, wet cloths on the face and neck is a healthier way to cool down fast.



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Truly, had the bottle been enlarged and I could have plunged INTO it, thus cooling my whole self down, so much the better.  As it was, I drank it and I can tell it was highly beneficial.  I did also use the cold bottle to get the blood to flow OUT of my ever-lovin' fingers, as when you walk a long way like that in heat, your fingers tend to swell up.  All in all, that was the best .99 cents my friend could have ever spent on me.  When I get over-heated, I just want someone to fling me in the ocean.  But failing that option being at hand, this was the next best thing.

btw, in on-line tests, I come out as Ayurvedic type "pitta" (fire).  For that particular thing (Ayurvedic types), it seems to me that on-line tests aren't very accurate and one would need to really go to an expert and be evaluated.  The tests ask a bunch of questions that are difficult to answer yourself, imho, at least for someone like me who, as I was just posting in another thread, is not really observant of physical characteristics/the physical world, and is more existing in "the clouds" (i.e., an INFJ).  When it asks things like "Is your face more of an oval, an egg, or an egg-like oval?", I'm at a loss *lol*!  But anyway, if I am indeed a pitta, maybe that is why I tend to "run hot" and gravitate mightily towards things like oceans, swimming pools and any cold body of water...even a plastic water bottle in a fridge at 7-11!


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Truly, had the bottle been enlarged and I could have plunged INTO it, thus cooling my whole self down, so much the better.

btw, in on-line tests, I come out as Ayurvedic type "pitta" (fire).  . . . "Is your face more of an oval, an egg, or an egg-like oval?", I'm at a loss *lol*!  But anyway, if I am indeed a pitta, maybe that is why I tend to "run hot" and gravitate mightily towards things like oceans, swimming pools and any cold body of water...even a plastic water bottle in a fridge at 7-11!


   I get the picture!

hmmm, an egg, an oval, or an egg-like oval . . ?    How can anyone answer a question like that.  Oh, I'm an INFJ.   I don't have a clue what shape I would describe any part of me as being.  I test out to be a Pitta, also, btw.  



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2.  The bad news is that I have not lost any further weight in the last few days and may even have gained one pound.  I'm tending to panic a bit here over that because what if that little amazing spurt was it and now I'm back to Plateau City for the duration?  I hope not.  I'm just gonna keep on walking the grain-free walk and hope for the best.


Do not panic, look at it on the positive side. You give me some time to get myself a magnifying glass so I can see you when i meet you.

Take good care and continue on your good roll. Good things take their time comming round but they do come.



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Update:  I'm doing very well with the grain-free diet, but the scale has stopped its beautiful slide.  In fact, I've gained a hair.  VERY discouraging, I must say.

The only thing left is to step up the exercise to notches unknown, as I did last Saturday.  Again this weekend, I shall commence.

I just don't see how I can eat what I eat and weigh what I weigh, and some other pups can eat what THEY eat, and be slim.  But you know--and it may sound mean that I take comfort or smugness or SOMETHING bad in this *lol*, but--the co-workers I have who are the most into planning and executing the big gorging parties at TI are indeed all very overweight.  One is overweight and has adult-onset diabetes.  The other three are just very overweight.  So it isn't like they are able to eat the TI way and not pay for it.

I just don't see why I, too, am heavy, when I really eat right.  However, far from having diabetes, my blood profile is excellent.  And, for a creaky-n-crunchy nonnie, I'm not in bad shape...well, yeah, I am, but I'm not in THAT bad shape.  So the weight is the only thing that really needs to come into line, and I can't expect it to hop to immediately after quite a while of being "stuck in neutral" and then a few weeks of utter debauchery like I had.  It responded mightily to me ditching the grains, and now it is throttling back a tad.  They say your body will do that, as we are programmed via eons of evolution to hold ON to weight, not jettison it.  Maybe this is a natural "correction", as economists say *rolling eyes*.

It just does get discouraging because, I must say, I have the metabolism of a slab of marble.  Short of jumping up and down all day, I don't know what more I can do to shock it into gear.  Maybe I should get a rebounder afterall.

edited to add:  lol, maybe I could place a small rebounder in my cube at work and bounce around instead of sitting in a chair.  ...Yeah, I'm sure that would go over well with the boss right now...(not).


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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P.S.  Some pups, however, who regularly cruise by TI and pick up and eat all manner of cake, etc., ARE slim and that part is discouraging to witness day after day.  But I just really think the majority of slim cake-gorgers are secretors, because nonnies couldn't get away with it, period.

Not that I'm bitter.  

(calm down, secretors, you know I love youzz...i'm just jealous that you can get away with murder and I must stick to raw kale and freshly felled cattle, is all...)


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