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Howard
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I made some minor changes in the last 14 days as an experiment:

1) I stopped eating all grains (i.e. Ezekial or Manna Bread);

2) Cut back to 4 servings of fruit a week;

3) Ate a big breakfast and lunch (lots of veggies) and a small evening meal late in the evening (about 7:00, usually 4:30).

4) No snacking.

Result, dropped 7.5 lbs in that time.

This is the second time I have done this, the first was my initial period with the blood type diet, with fast results as well. I feel good that I can drop weight that quickly if I need to in a pinch.

Cheers, for the BTD!!


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I am realizing just how greatful I am to have found the BTD - and even though I have been having my slipups with compliancy - I am still doing really well overall and always get back to it.  I have pretty much been avoiding the scales since I've been convinced I have put on a bunch of weight and just didn't want to see the number - even though I'm still in the same clothes and haven't had to go up in sizes or anything - that really should be a clue to me - but I guess I can still feel the affect of the avoids when I do slip up and have them - I still feel that inflammation the avoids cause.  Well a couple of days I ago I decided I really needed to face reality with the scales and I was so relieved to see that I wasn't even above 140.  135lbs is where I feel my best at - but I also fluxuate up or down a few lbs from there at any given time so really 138-139 where I'm at right now is very normal for me.  And I know if I could just ditch the grains that extra little bit of weight would be gone and for someone who has always struggled with weight this really is such a blessing for me - especially since I'm really short and weight shows so fast on me.  Oh and the fact that I've learned what will make me feel so much better and in balance when I've been off with my eating is really great too.  Like today I just wasn't feeling all that great and I knew if I could get some beef and greens I would feel better - so we went out and I got a burger without a bun and a salad and it was just what my body was needing.  It just amazes me how that simple meal can be so healing to my body so quickly.  Does anyone else notice that with beneficials how quickly they can help you feel better?  


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Howard
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Hi mhameline,

What I notice is that when my diet is strictly compliant, I can eat a lot fewer calories in a day and not feel hungry. When I eat poorly, there is never enough food it seems, and I always have a craving in the back of my mind.


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I have not noticed that for myself. Even when I eat only beneficials, I find myself overeating. I wish giving up grains for me was the answer, but it's not.

The moderation fairy just gave me the nod, so I'm going to start focusing on the frequencies outlined in LR4YT to see if I can get a handle on things.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.

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Hi mhameline,

What I notice is that when my diet is strictly compliant, I can eat a lot fewer calories in a day and not feel hungry. When I eat poorly, there is never enough food it seems, and I always have a craving in the back of my mind.


This is my experience also, Howard.  



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Okay, well, how to put this, how to ease into it, how to phrase it euphemistically...hmmmm...

went completely OFF the rails again.

It seems this has been happening more and more and I have to think that maybe I am indeed in perimenapause no matter what nunudoc said about my hormones being "fine". I mean, I haven't been this inexplicably bizarro in terms of doing well with my diet and then going totally bonkers in years.

Part of it is this massive mid-life crisis I'm in. Like, this weekend, I just did NOT want to face reality, right, so instead I plunged headfirst into piles of wheat. Yeah, good plan there. That really helped the situation. (not)

Part of it this weekend was that I did NOT get enough sleep (sleep deprivation leads to carb cravings very definitively in my case, I observe) this weekend. I don't need much sleep, mind, but if I don't get what little sleep I do need, I get into a diet danger zone. Well, I was already down a quart last week and then Friday night I ended up on a long phone call until 11:43 p.m. That may not sound that late to those of you who do not get up every day by 6:00 a.m., but to those of us who do, it is pretty late. Anyway, somehow I went nuts this weekend, and it was a very wheaty type of nuts. I usually don't crave wheat but this bender seemed all about wheat, wheat, wheat. WHEAT. I will spare you the gory details. This is a family site, afterall.

Anyhooo...so once again I undid all the hard work and good I've done myself over the last however-long-it-has-been, and in one fell swoop I gained a zillion pounds (I'm sure...too scared to weigh myself, plus I don't think I'm done with this wheatfest yet) and I am now really run down and wheated up.

Arse alert. Hello.

So, nothing good to report this week, that is fo shoo.

As I said to my mom yesterday: "Not facing reality is very fattening."


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

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Stress=carb cravings. Ostress relief=exercise. If you were catholic exercise=penance. In the meantime take some deflect and go forth and sin no more.
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Edna - I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble with your eating - I'm right there with you and having trouble with it too.  Oh and I forgot to take my deflect this morning.  Oh well - I have good things with me at work today and I will drag my butt to the gym to work out tonight.  Hoping you can get some excercise in tonight as well.  


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wohawoaho.... my co-therapiste & her husband went on *low-carb to no-carb* and baddaboum he
lost some 15 kilos in 3 weaks, and she lost some poundies too; I guess
when we started 2,5 years ago.with BTD ...she lost 10 kilos in 2 weeks; ...... it's amazing, when she heared about that...she made it; after having lost 10 kilos she went on weightwatchers and gained
then tried  whatsoever and....didn't wanted to accept that BTD is the one .....argh

I think it is very common here in Switzerland, to tell you something about....? and then just acting in an absolut contrary way since  so long I tried to explain to her what will happen in feeding her O'children with  wheat etc.....she can't hear
the same: once she came crying to me, because of her stomachaches; I said to her, come over here
and we'll do a quicktest....and see it was an overactif pylori I told her what to do, sended her to a
friend of mine because of the antibiotics and then to get off such baddies ....then she took a healthbook from schoolmedicine and told me the way they do it, incl a form of biopsy...then I was soooo feed up that I asked her to leave my room immediately ......am I that badly to understand she even didn't noticed it what has happend.....and off I went ....
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Maybe potatoes would help that craving & not be as bad as wheat.  Sometimes, especially while traveling, I eat potatoes (there's not much else out there anyway).
They also help me sleep better.  I know they are an avoid for us, but they are not grains.
Tomatilla:
Isn't it amazing how people who have been helped by some alternative medicine, revert back to traditional, get worse, & still don't get it?  It's perplexing!
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Mrs T...ya right .D...sometimes I begin to feel pitty for em....and then getting angry    and then having the envy just to go, never talking again  
its just crazy what people want to have understood, or just didn't really listened
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Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
I think it is very common here in Switzerland, to tell you something about....? and then just acting in an absolut contrary way since so long I tried to explain to her what will happen in feeding her O'children with wheat etc.....she can't hear
the same: once she came crying to me, because of her stomachaches; I said to her, come over here
and we'll do a quicktest....and see it was an overactif pylori I told her what to do, sended her to a
friend of mine because of the antibiotics and then to get off such baddies ....then she took a healthbook from schoolmedicine and told me the way they do it, incl a form of biopsy...then I was soooo feed up that I asked her to leave my room immediately ......am I that badly to understand she even didn't noticed it what has happend.....and off I went ....


Dear Isa,

Count Spain in it as well

You are admirable. You just asked her out of the room? Well perhaps it is a difference in blood type. AB's are calmer than O's but, I understand AB's share some stress factors with O's. Admirable, perhaps my legs are so strong from so much running I always feel I want to use them for more things...

Keep that good character of yours.

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I really think some of the issue with the grains is the way we eat them.  They need to be fermented as they traditionally were.  I know gluten is a major no=no for most, even fermented for me, but this naturally leavened brown rice bread that I get from Canada doesn't seem to bother me, unless I eat too much of it, and don't exercise.  Then I get heavy around the middle, but I only eat 1 piece in a.m.  Exercise after that is the utmost importance.

I read that too much protein will make one lose weight for a while, but over time can cause serious health problems, so I say a little compliant, fermented properly prepared grain in the a.m., then good exercise at least 4 or 5 days a week, with one day off, could be a great way to go.  If there is no exercise involved, you may stay very thin on a high protein diet, but you may not stay healthy...

Thoughts?
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You keep asking that question but don't actually state your sources...

What literature did your read or else who do you know who was on a high protein diet for a long time and did get ill?

Were they on Atkins or similar and thus eating a lot of pork, cheese and cream and likely nowhere near enough veg? Or were they compliant Os?

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I wonder how Camel's milk would work for nonnies.


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no mention of kefir made from camel milk to be ok......
never the less, you could try draining the kefir for a day in the fridge with a weight placed on it, and make a type of fresh cheese without whey......perhaps that might be at least neutral.


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Tina....what fermented grain? beer? (A's can have it.) (listen, I love beer, but never drink it because of the bloating I get from it....wine works better.)
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How's it going? Did you set the reset button? I love your posts! They are so bubbly and full of joy(except for the last one) But we're all rooten for you.
A thought too. When loosing weight slows down, it may be a good idea to get some good antioxidants. Green tea is a beneficial for 0-nonnies.

Hope to hear from you again.
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