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 Non Secretors: Do you eat grains
Yes, O nonnie (68 votes)
25.86%
No, O nonnie (52 votes)
19.77%
Yes, A nonnie (49 votes)
18.63%
Yes, B/AB nonnie (32 votes)
12.17%
No, A nonnie (29 votes)
11.03%
I'm a secretor but I still want to vote (18 votes)
6.84%
No, B/AB nonnie (15 votes)
5.70%
263 Votes Total Last vote Wednesday, October 15, 2014, 1:36pm by Lisette
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Dianne
Thursday, September 1, 2011, 1:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am an Explorer, have been following the GTD as a non-secretor because of symptoms. Sending away for my secretor status next week though. I chose to start the diet as a nonnie rather than secretor to maximize the health benefits sooner in case I am a nonnie. When I run the SWAMI either as a nonnie or secretor I gave the same values :
red meat 3X, poultry 3X, fish 4X, eggs 6 weekly. Compliant grains 1 1/2 cups daily. I am fine with the grains. I wonder if the Explorer type O is more tolerant of grains than say the Hunter or Gatherer type?
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gardengirl
Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yesterday was my first grain free day. I am also eliminating all legumes/beans. I am still trying to learn what's going on as my symptoms are crazy and I don't just get little "clues". Granted, when I modified my diet my symptoms got 90% better now it's a matter of fine tuning, hopefully this grain/carb thing will fully clear it up. The grains I just gave up are rice, quinoa and wild rice. Wheat are long gone (but reared it's ugly head this past Christmas).
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Averno
Saturday, August 11, 2012, 8:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Brown rice on a regular basis with no side effects. As a former pasta fiend (no, not Italian as the name might suggest, just an odd addictive craving) brown rice pasta has been a blessing. Dinner tonight: turkey bolognese with manchego cheese. All compliant for me. And my O nonnie wife too!

I would re-write my will for a decent, AB compliant pizza dough recipe without tapioca flour. Anyone???
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Quoted from Averno
I would re-write my will for a decent, AB compliant pizza dough recipe without tapioca flour. Anyone???

Take a gander at this one...
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?1007

You can also look at other pizza dough recipes in the recipe database:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase.....er=abc&header=on

Or search for whatever you would like to by putting the words in the search box here:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm


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aisling
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I do best with less grains.  I am still trying to get past my addiction to them, though,I used to live on carbohydrates.  Didn't realize how bad they were making me feel until I stopped eating so many of them.  Still, like most bad habits, I've fallen off the wagon a few times.  I'll get there!
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prunella
Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Averno, if you are listening.....

Chebe brand makes a wonderful tapioca/manioc pizza crust mix with herbs. You add eggs, grated cheese, oil, milk.  I eat it only occasionally, since it has milk and manioc is a black dot. I think I have used almond milk with good results.
And in the interests of economy,  I think I could figure out how to create the recipe from scratch.




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prunella
Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Brown rice in all of its forms--pasta , flour, crackers-- is fine for me. Quinoa works. Teff flour is OK in baked goods.  

Wheat is poison. Sorghum is not great. Corn is not good. Oats are an avoid for me, but i don't eat them very often.  Millet, seems OK for baking, but I always mix it with other flours and use it in small quantities.  




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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aussielady582
Thursday, November 1, 2012, 11:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am a blood type O, 'Hunter" genotype.  I've had chronic health probs since childhood (esp chronic fatigue, endocrine/hormonal imbalance, poor digestive health), and only in recent years have changed or decreased grain use, whilst I did my own research.  Recently, i've also read info on Gabriel Cousen's site (www.treeoflife.nu, on wheat and grains (very enlightening), and on http://www.marksdailyapple.com) - Mark Sissons??..'primal blueprint'.   I also looked into the Specific carbohydrate diet (www.breakingthevisciouscycle.info) where not even quinoa is recommended is it is a starch.   I am still learning and trying different things... I get confused with different viewpoints.  I eat a little sprouted bread, quinoa, amaranth, millet, buckwheat; but after reading info on marksdailyapple, I may decrease use of those too, as we need more animal protein/fat and fruit/veg.  My favourite is amaranth, and sprouted bread.  It is also easy to sprout the seeds-like grains in glass jars!  I kind of think ancient grains which are not stored too long, are ok for some people; they have valuable nutrients and offer variety to one's diet.  I will have to keep reading and thinking about this issue.  regards.
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welcome!!!
have you read about swami?

http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/media/gtd.htm
find out how food rates for you individually, given your personal variables.


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Possum
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Hey Aussie582 Welcome from another Aussie ex NSW'er (currently living in NZ) Stick around & ask questions...A lot of us have looked into the other alternatives & tbh there's nothing like BTD/GTD
No other one size fits all system works, & there is so much guess work still!!  Dr D's approach even has the modification of swami which is needed for a lot of those who are Nonnies*...
Might be worth getting the *non secretor test... as non secretors do not do as well on any grains, as even other O types do...
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Chloe
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I voted for my husband, an A nonnie who does great on spelt, oats and brown rice.  

I didn't vote for myself, but I'm a secretor who does fair on brown rice, great on quinoa or amaranth and
poorly on all gluten grains.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Dianne
Sunday, January 27, 2013, 6:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Just voted for my husband who is Hunter/nonnie. He doesn't do well on much grain. Mostly has a few brown rice cakes with his mackerel for lunch. Not every week, but some evenings will have brown rice (1/2 cup). On weekends he may have 4 slices of bread with his eggs - rye 100%.

I did not vote for myself, I am an 0/Explorer/secretor and do well on amaranth, white jasmine rice, eat a little every day, it's quite variable depending on the day, sometimes 2-3 slice of gluten-free baguette, another day 1 cup of rice. But I find I have to have a bit to feel well. It does not make me put on weight. Makes me feel grounded.
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TJ
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I, unfortunately, had to relearn the lesson about grains. I originally quit them in February of 2011 and improved. I started back after a few months. I'm off again now since January 2nd, and I intend to keep it that way forever.
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I recommend Dr Loren Cordain's books on Paleo diet too, good insight on grains, beans/legumes,  dairy foods,  white potatoes, sugar etc.
I've given away my supply of quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, chia seeds from my kitchen.  Rice I've not eaten for about 3 weeks or more, I don't miss it at all.
Veggies, fruits very safe, and mostly fish/seafood, with beef, duck!   Warm broths from beef and poulty bones, so soothing and keeps me satisfied.

'Hunter' slowly getting healthier!!
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Same Aussielady!! But couldn't survive without my chia seeds
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I had some rice cakes for the first time last night in about 2 months and today my workout was great. however, I noticed that my belly is a little bloated this afternoon...

I had a walk to the gym, workout (intense workout) and walk home.

salad with grass fed beef, kale chips and lots of veggies.

so, I feel ok, but kind of tired and 'heavy". Not sure if it the result from the rice cakes last night or too much meat.. however, it was about 6 oz, but i burned at least 700 calories before lunch today. and... no breakfast.

hmm... so, still working on the balance thing;)
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Having recently developed infectious arthritus (one of the many forms of autoimmune disease) I no longer am able to handle eating kamut and spelt which were previously Beneficial grains for me.

Thanks to being able to re-edit my SWAMI choosing only the autoimmune problem, it narrowed my grain choices eliminating those two and I now am on the road to recovery!  SO VERY HAPPY AND THANKFUL for Dr. D'Adamo, his research, and this great tool called SWAMI.  


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I eat spelt or rye bread (both free of ordinary wheat flour), white rice, rice noodles, oat bran, quinoa.  I usually keep portion sizes small.  But white rice is a superfood for me and I might have normal portions of that.

I've not had a secretor test, but I presume my self to be a nonnie.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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This O nonnie doesn't seem to do well on grains of any sort, including the few beneficial ones.

I do have organic rice cakes for breakfast with almond and chia seed butter. They do not cause me too much grief, but anything else either bloats me or sets up a gnawing dissatisfaction that makes me eat mindlessly. That is especially so if I eat grains (even beneficial ones) in the evening. A small meal of meat and vegetables, however, is completely satisfying, and I rarely find myself looking for something else to eat later in the evening.

I have doubled my vitamin B complex supplements as a result of minimising the grains. And Dr D says somewhere that O's have a greater need for B's (vitamins, that is   )


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Quoted from snazzyshazz
And Dr D says somewhere that O's have a greater need for B's (vitamins, that is   )
Good to know, but the last little bit did make me chuckle  

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I eat spelt bread and cereal without problems. Oat bran seems ok. Eat wheat occasionally and just deal with the after effects. Rice is no problem at all, have found a good rice pasta for occasional spaghetti dinner.
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Quoted from snazzyshazz
This O nonnie doesn't seem to do well on grains of any sort, including the few beneficial ones.

I do have organic rice cakes for breakfast with almond and chia seed butter. They do not cause me too much grief, but anything else either bloats me or sets up a gnawing dissatisfaction that makes me eat mindlessly. That is especially so if I eat grains (even beneficial ones) in the evening. A


This is very similar to my experience.  I have a couple of lightly toasted rice cakes every day with almond butter.  No problem.  But if I eat even my Diamond cooked grains, I get heartburn, bloating and blood sugar swings that make me feel hungry when I'm really not.



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Rice makes me hungry for some reason, but rice/almond bread is very satisfying. Rice cakes I just can't love..... All rice products are superfoods for me. Can't eat spelt, a super food, which I love.


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I happened to have rice last week accidentally cooked into my restaurant lentil soup (rice is a mthrfr kind of avoid for me, not the diamond it is professed to be on my SWAMI.) Since I had given it up for a long time....it reacted with some spicy seasoning that was in another dish, and what resulted after elimination was a painful, crinkly feeling in my intestines as if they had turned into a hair scrunchie for 2 hours..... ; mild IBS! Something I never get with my beans and sweet potatoes, even if some heat is accidentally mixed in.


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