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 Non Secretors: Do you eat grains
Yes, O nonnie (68 votes)
25.86%
No, O nonnie (52 votes)
19.77%
Yes, A nonnie (49 votes)
18.63%
Yes, B/AB nonnie (32 votes)
12.17%
No, A nonnie (29 votes)
11.03%
I'm a secretor but I still want to vote (18 votes)
6.84%
No, B/AB nonnie (15 votes)
5.70%
263 Votes Total Last vote Wednesday, October 15, 2014, 1:36pm by Lisette
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Luana
Saturday, January 15, 2011, 10:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes, I do eat grains but not enough according to the SWAMI food values.  I should be having 1/2 cup 3x/day since I am too skinny and need to gain weight.

I don't crave grains at all and if I eat gluten, I don't feel that great.  I do well on rice, quinoa and millet.  Even though the list says spelt is ok, I have to listen to my body and my body right now says "no spelt".  So maybe I'll try again one day but  not now.


BTD as of 03/13/07; GTD as of 01/01/11

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Possum
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i only had that becuse i was really hungry and that was a fast food. 10 min in the nuker and tada food.
Usually I think this way - 10 mins in the nuker & Tata (as in goodbye) food.... Incidentally 10 mins in the saucepan creates the same result...well I guess with two differences actually... More nutritious food & a saucepan & a bowl to wash... I have a ceramic one that I can eat out of so only one difference for me...
Even my microwave cookbooks say that the only advantage in using a microwave for pasta or rice is the "not using a saucepan" (creating washing up) but the admit it takes no less time...
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meribelle
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I am an O nonnie who has gone astray.  I started eating grains again when I got so constipated I missed a week of work.  I started eating Bran Buds in an effort to get 'regular.'  Since then I have slipped on to other cereals, corn chips, etc.  I have gained a lot of weight and my clothes don't fit.  I feel like I am in a fog.  I had my lab work done this week and my cholesterol and triglycerides are much higher.  I am stopping grains.  I guess I will live on prunes for 'fiber.'  Any suggestions, please?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Try increasing your water & also fats, meat & those vegs...
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Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:45am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Larch arabinogalactan that you can get in the Ara6 supplement is a really great fiber.

Larch and astralagus are my favorite all blood type, general purpose supplements - if you can get your hands on the Blood Type Encyclopedia, you will see why.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from Possum
Try increasing your water & also fats, meat & those vegs...


What fats?  Olive oil?


Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again.  Blessings, meribelle
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Lola
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under oils in your book.....
diamond, SF and neutrals to a lesser degree......those fats


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
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Fat consumption is a good thing.  It is a nutritional requirement.  You do not get fat by consuming fat - unless it is counter productive for your type.  

The Nazis used to perform "experiments" on prisoners whose quiet disappearance would be good for the Reich; they would be given a reasonably nutritious diet (under the circumstances) with 0% fat content.  After a while the prisoner would die from the diet.

Nothing about fat-free diets in the Geneva Convention .....


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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O in Virginia
Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm not sure whether I already posted on this thread, but recently I've gotten to the point where I eat no grains at all except for rice in limited amounts.  It was hard to make the adjustment to no bread or crackers or grains, but I'm getting used to it now.  Rice is my friend, a dimaond on my SWAMI.  I do still eat rice cakes with almond butter or ghee as "bread" while having a bowl of soup or a cup of tea.  At first I think I ate too much rice (and too many rice cakes) while letting go of old habits, but I'm starting to level off now and get used to the diet that is meant for me.  Or I for it, whichever.  I can have quinoa, amaranth flour and a very few other grains, but I rarely indulge lately, and I notice that I feel better without them.  If I make amaranth tortillas, for example, which is fine for me, I will still tend to overeat them and they make me bloated and make me gain weight (water retention?).  I think I like the inside/out lean feeling better.  I can eat compliant grains in cake or cookies, and I don't feel badly on them as I would if I ate wheat, but I just feel better without them.  Not saying I will be able to resist making desserts with them on occasion anyway.  
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I quit eating cereal grains on February 7th, and the only "grain" I eat now is quinoa.  I'm tolerating beans and fruit much better.  I feel like my gut healing process is moving forward again!
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I feel like my gut healing process is moving forward again!




  



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I am so happy to have found this nonnie forum!

After listening to my body and to other nonnie folks I am happy to go grain free. My system does much better without them! Better transit time, makes me eat more veggies and fruit, and my mind is calmer.

HOWEVER...
The question I have, if another nonnie could answer, is about cholesterol. Being a Hunter type o nonnie not eating grains I wonder about cholesterol levels and if I should have a little grain to 'sop up' some of the cholesterol of the meatier diet.

Have any other Hunter type o nonnie's had their cholesterol checked while on Swami or non-secretor diet? If so what were your results?

Thanks if you have anything to share!!
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Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 5:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm a secretor that had cholesterol issues pre BT and stopping grains back them put them right back to where they were supposed to be. Meat and fat have no effect on my cholesterol, it's grains and carbs in general


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There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GLUTENOUS GRAINS and NON-GLUTENOUS QUINOA-RICE-WILD_RICE !

I only eat non-glutenous ones but I don't eat much. I choose wild rice since it has a less chance of becoming GENETICALLY MODIFIED!
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I still eat some but not as many as I used to.  My system seems to do much better without the extra starchy carbohydrates. My O friend who is doing BTD just had her blood cholesterol and total went down, good went up and bad went down more than the total.
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Even more good news on abstaining from grains: my salt cravings and decreasing and my tolerance for potassium is increasing (Translation: my adrenal glands are starting to work right!!!)
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It SEEMS as males can and or need grains more than females. just an observation. this female doesn't NEED any.


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our cholesterol goes up by eating the wrong carbs, no worries

fear the wheat, not the meat


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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our cholesterol goes up by eating the wrong carbs, no worries

fear the wheat, not the meat


PUT THAT ON A T-SHIRT!


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Cholesterol is a required nutrient: it is the precursor to your entire system or hormones.

Most A's should keep their cholesterol consumption down (best done via Dr D' Adamo's diet) as they have low intestinal alkaline phosphotase, which is required to turn cholesterol from a poison into nutrition.

Most O's should not eat grains that interfere with the ability of their high intestinal alkaline phosphotase to break the cholesterol down for proper absorbtion, and they need the heavy meat for proper nutrition.  Again, the best is to follow Dr. D' Adamo's diet.

Forget the one-size-fits-all advice and health scares.  Check with Dr. D' Adamo to find out what You, specifically,  do need to watch for.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Awesome, thanks MsRubyLu and Mother, that's what I was looking to know
Thanks everybody.
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Watched Dr Oz and thought about "oat bran"  but after reading this form I think I'll stick to what I know and leave the fad diets to whomever....  I have cut down on my "sandwiches" from Ezekiel bread, now having meat or fish without the bread(sometimes I chop fish up on top of a salad.)


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re: cholesterol as an essential nutrient...

i thought that 75% of cholesterol was manufactured in the body???

if only 1/4 of cholesterol is dietary then it seems that dietary cholesterol is not as important as the natural processes to create it???
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I am so happy to have found this nonnie forum!

After listening to my body and to other nonnie folks I am happy to go grain free. My system does much better without them! Better transit time, makes me eat more veggies and fruit, and my mind is calmer.

HOWEVER...
The question I have, if another nonnie could answer, is about cholesterol. Being a Hunter type o nonnie not eating grains I wonder about cholesterol levels and if I should have a little grain to 'sop up' some of the cholesterol of the meatier diet.

Have any other Hunter type o nonnie's had their cholesterol checked while on Swami or non-secretor diet? If so what were your results?

Thanks if you have anything to share!!


I am a O nonnie Hunter and I eat very few grains.  Rice and quinoa occasionally.  I also have two SWAMIs, one that I purchased on my own and then I went to see Dr. Nash, Dr. D's associate, and I got a SWAMI from her.  Both my SWAMI's give me more servings of FISH than meat.  I did a poll on the forum a week ago and come to find out, more nonnies get more servings of fish than red meat.  Hunters seem to be associated with red meat, but I have begun to think of myself as a FISHER, so coined by Ruthiegirl  


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