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I hardly eat any grains. Just looking at a bowl of rice in a japanese restaurant, on the neighboring table, reminds me to ask them to replace it with an extra salad.
I feel it immediately in my digestion. I feel heavy, bloated, gassy,sluggish, don't want to do anything. And of course I retain water and put on weight. If I overdo it with wheat, I immediataly feel a knee injury coming back to the surface of my consciousness. Otherwise it is just there (of course a knee injury will never go away, since I did have one after all), living in silence.
Powerful stuff, grains, for us O nonnies for me at least. I mean in the negative sense.
PS I do eat Ryvita (rye), just for the crunch with "raw" butter. Mmmmmm.Do you find raw butter in the US (I am in France). There is a world of difference with pasteurized butter.
I'm sure you are aware of the food ratings of these grains, but, just in case . . . wheat is a toxin for Gatherers, rye is black dot and so is white rice. If you are finding that these foods make you feel bad, maybe you could try basmati rice, which is a superfood.  |
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On the B non-secretor diet, I ate essentially no grains, but on the Genotype diet, I find that I'm thriving on millet.
Actually....millet is a seed  ... |
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| Yohannes |
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I haven`t been eating grains the last 6-7 years.
When I started the GTD I wanted to try basmati rice, millet and quinoa
since they were supposed to be superfoods for Explorers.
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and my gut has been ever so grateful with my addition of all the diamond grains and legumes in my GT guidelines! there s no doubt we are all sailing on the same river but on our individualized canoes!! |
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| Victoria |
| Saturday, February 14, 2009, 8:46pm |
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Quoted from 4732
I haven`t been eating grains the last 6-7 years.
When I started the GTD I wanted to try basmati rice, millet and quinoa
since they were supposed to be superfoods for Explorers.
But they didn`t work for me, so I`m back on no grains diet.
It took many months on the GTD before I could digest grains well. Nearly a decade of being 90% grain-free was a routine that was hard to break. I think a lot of healing had to take place in my gut before the grains didn't hurt me somewhat. I still find that I do better on millet than on rice. |
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| Yohannes |
| Sunday, February 15, 2009, 4:24pm |
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I guess I have to have another try with grains when I`m feeling better.........
Millet was the one where the reactions were mildest. |
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| Victoria |
| Sunday, February 15, 2009, 8:10pm |
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As Accidental Chef points out, millet is a seed, and not exactly a grain. That may be one reason it can be easier to digest. It is perhaps the most high protein of the "grains" and lower on the glycemic scale than rice.
Try rinsing the millet very well under cold running water, then lightly toasting it in a dry skillet. Cook with at least 3 parts water to one part grain, for 40 minutes. Then let sit, still covered for an additional 10 or more minutes. |
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| Yohannes |
| Sunday, February 15, 2009, 9:02pm |
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Thanks Victoria!
I will try what you suggested the next time I try millet. |
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I didn't realize millet was high in protein. I knew quinoa was. |
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| Monday, February 16, 2009, 4:13am |
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I didn't realize millet was high in protein. I knew quinoa was.
I believe quinoa is higher than millet. But millet is higher than the others. |
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and amaranth runs in second as well.....or a tie |
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This is an old thread, but it is pertinent to my life today. I have strayed away from the BTD/GTD to the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) because I had thrush. Well, it does not include grains, so I can't blame the SCD.
But lately I have gone crazy with cereal. Last night I knew enough was enough and threw away the rest of the box. I can not do grains. I just want more and more and more, etc.
I am probably going to have to have surgery for bladder suspension and all the other stuff "down there" and I want to be in the best top shape. So here I am back.
It is good to be back. I am looking forward to this forum.
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try detoxing and fortifying your immune system before the surgery.... welcome back! |
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| Debra+ |
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merribelle...welcome back to this way of life. Follow the 'gatherer' foods...the grains there are most healing and yummilicious. Have 4-6 smaller meals during the day. Don't forget the veggies to combat those important cravings. Debra |
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I realized recently that I can't eat cereal in the morning even if I eat protein also. It makes me feel really nauseated. Even if it's all beneficial/neutral ingredients. So maybe I don't do as well on grains as I thought. I can eat a bowl of granola in the afternoon for a snack, but I feel rotten if I eat it for breakfast. |
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| Karen Vago |
| Sunday, May 24, 2009, 5:20pm |
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I am keeping grains to a minimum these days.
Essene bread in the morning is the only regular.
I can go days without any other grains. That makes me eat all the more vegetables.
I like the feeling it gives me. Soon I will weigh myself and find out about the weight benefit! Although I am also off dairy so it wouldn't be the grains alone.
Would there be a nutritional reason one should include grains, other than not getting hungry too soon after a meal?
I have the feeling my blood sugar levels are more even without the grains.
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I stick to basmati rice and all the rest...ptuiiii.... I feel better without....   ... oops and I thougt the 6 smaller intakes of foods were merely recommendations for us an the A's  ...and nada for the O's .... |
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I make flat bread but mostly for my husband (mix of cooked millet, egg & some sort of flour - tapioca, rice or oat)... We don't have secretor info on him yet & no real need to either...I eat a little of it... But I find it is easy to snack extra when I have access to even these breads & prefer to stick to no grains altogether  |
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| Sunday, April 11, 2010, 4:28am |
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Interesting to see this old thread still up and running!
When I first posted on this thread way back on page one, I was still eating rice cakes every day, but now I have changed my position on grains for me. I have not eaten any grains at all for a few months, and it's greatly improved my gut health. |
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[/quote]When I first posted on this thread way back on page one, I was still eating rice cakes every day, but now I have changed my position on grains for me. I have not eaten any grains at all for a few months, and it's greatly improved my gut health.[quote]
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i suspect non for me and i don't eat alot of grains. some rice now and then and the occasional spelt toast or spelt wrap.i had rice monday i think it was but nothing sence then and i only had that becuse i was really hungry and that was a fast food. 10 min in the nuker and tada food. |
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