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 Non Secretors: Do you eat grains
Yes, O nonnie (68 votes)
25.76%
No, O nonnie (52 votes)
19.70%
Yes, A nonnie (49 votes)
18.56%
Yes, B/AB nonnie (32 votes)
12.12%
No, A nonnie (30 votes)
11.36%
I'm a secretor but I still want to vote (18 votes)
6.82%
No, B/AB nonnie (15 votes)
5.68%
264 Votes Total Last vote Wednesday, December 10, 2014, 12:46am by Pamma
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Cathy
Saturday, February 16, 2008, 1:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Has anyone started to relax their antigrain stance in light of the Genotype books? Many of the genotypes allow more grains and sometimes they are labeled as super beneficial.

I am thinking that I need to allow more carbohydrates now that my meat options have been diminished.

But I have only eaten a timy amount in response to the new genotypes and have not suffered ill affects, but have been reluctant to increase either the amount or variety of grains that I consumed.

Any nonsecretors more brazen than me? How have you reacted so far?




Since I now follow the GTD, I am actually eating more in quantity of grain.  I try to eat 5 servings of grain a day.  Beings I am gluten intolerant, also, I have cut out oat, and spelt flours, and of course, all wheats, and have used a LOT of brown rice.  I am now using quinoa, and buckwheat groats (not the roasted kind).  I've actually cut down my meat in take as of late.  I feels more sluggish and fatigued since I have done that.  I need to up my meat protein intake or more beans.   I have been having a dickens of a time try to GAIN weight!  I am 5' 5" and only weigh 111.  I've gained 1 pound in a month and a half....and that's with eating the increase of grain per day.  I have been struggling with a lot of coughing since I started the GTD...(that's been since the begining of Jan.)  Maybe, my system doen't like all the carbs, a puzzle I will figure out.
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I eat rice and rice noodles now and again.  I have pretty much given up on bread.   I love bread, but it doesn't love me!!
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Well, I have no choice but to stay away from wheat and corn.
I have allergies and I suspect arthritis coming on (joint
pain, etc). I do eat oatmeal, rice a little buckwheat
and sometimes a little rye. I seem to have no problems with
these. But if there is wheat mixed in with the rye or buckwheat, joint pain and inflammation starts up all over
again.

I found the entry by our guest as interesting. Just wish I
could get the test in Tokyo.



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Quoted from Becky
I eat rice and rice noodles now and again.  I have pretty much given up on bread.   I love bread, but it doesn't love me!!


Have you tried flaxseed bread? http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm?p=1



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Eating lots more grain....and gaining weight!


I ate lots more grain (still not as much as I was supposed to on the explorer diet) until I could not handle all the fungal infections that resulted from this indulgence. I had to cut back, because I still could not handle grains well.


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all issues need to be attended in conjunction with the diet, creating your own individualized frequency values of each food category.
like for example a gatherer with arthritis flare ups, needs to go slow on the night shades, even if tomatoes are diamonds...etc.

that s where 'GTswami light' comes in the picture, I presume!


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As far as I can tell I don't have any issues with brown rice or millet, the two compliant grains I use. I have one to two servings most days.

I will use oats every once in a while when I can add black dot foods back into my diet again.



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I thought some of you might be interested in this. It's a short video on  Celiac Disease. Here's the link. I wasn't sure if I could post a youtube video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8s9uMR-5eY


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I can tolerate a small amount of rice - basmati - or rice crackers and only if eaten with protein. (I will try millet after reading Geno type Book)otherwise yes i crave wrong foods and over eat and crave more grains which make me ache and have cotton wool in the head and generally feel like i have the flu.  I am struggling with many health issues of an auto immune nature and would love to hear from others living their blood type who have auto immune conditions and their improvements.
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Leslee,
just hop on the wagon and take one step at a time!
we ll help you attain your goals!


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I ate a big bowl of Millet Tuesday night and when I woke up on Wednesday, I didn't feel as good as I had the other days.  I think it had something to do with it.  It made me feel good after eating it, warmed me up.  But the next morning I wasn't hungry and even had a hard time breathing.  Felt, just fatigued and weird.  It could've been a coincidence, but part of me is thinking not.  Every time I try to eat oatmeal for breakfast, my system is like, NO WAY you are overloaded.  So I have a feeling I'm not so good with grains.  My secretor test is arriving today and I'll find out if I'm a nonnie.  I'm not sure.  Either way, too much grains is no good for me, from what I can tell.


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I eat carbs a ton, but miss the wheat...especially when eating out! Can you belive there are restaurants in California who actually have no wheat altenatives in the kitchen, like rice. I eat oatmeal every morn, rice, spelt, quinoa or ammarath salads with vegs for lunch.... snack on spelt snack in the AM and usually do carbs in the form of non-whaet bread or rice cracker at night with dinner. I am alergic to wheat and when I cut it out my cognitive functiong improved and the brain fog in the AM went away!


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I eat more grains than an O-nonnie should .

I find I'm fine with rice (thank goodness, living in Asia!), amaranth, millet, kamut and Quinoa (don't like the bitterness much though). I adore rye but that blows me up if I overdose on it.

I've come to the conclusion that any food that makes my mouth water just thinking about it, is probably bad for me. I just don't get that physical "mmmmm" reaction with beneficials.

I wondered whether I might be gluten-intolerant, but kamut contains gluten, doesn't it? I'm completely fine with that.


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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AB-confrre, so do I feel when havin eaten millet...
so I just let it be, take sometimes quinoa and or amaranth which arent' grains but seeds and better I feel  
I stopped eating regulary bread of whatsoever..I only take basmatirice occasionally....even spelt....und tschss....I've
made my bread before on my own....stopped that as well  
coz it loads me up with kilos and as I'm menopausal.....I don't
need that in this period


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Since I started GTD, I eat more grain, and it doesn't seem to bother me.  I eat quinoa, oats, and rice (usually brown unless I'm away from home).  I have a bowl of oat bran (like oatmeal) daily in the evening.
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I eat them occasionally and I bloat and get tired.  A few hours later better,
Grains are everywhere I look.

Glad to find this thread.

Great insite to know I'm not alone.


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I hardly eat any grains. Just looking at a bowl of rice in a japanese restaurant, on the neighboring table,  reminds me to ask them to replace it with an extra salad.

I feel it immediately in my digestion. I feel heavy, bloated, gassy,sluggish, don't want to do anything. And of course I retain water and put on weight. If I overdo it with wheat, I immediataly feel a knee injury coming back to the surface of my consciousness. Otherwise it is just there (of course a knee injury will never go away, since I did have one after all), living in silence.

Powerful stuff, grains, for us O nonnies for me at least. I mean in the negative sense.

PS I do eat Ryvita (rye), just for the crunch with "raw" butter. Mmmmmm.Do you find raw butter in the US (I am in France). There is a world of difference with pasteurized butter.


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rye has moved far away from me now that I follow my GT2 guidelines!
but have welcomed so many new grains, which keep me happy!


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On the B non-secretor diet, I ate essentially no grains, but on the Genotype diet, I find that I'm thriving on millet.

Those of you for whom millet is a superfood;  if you don't feel so well when you eat it, try it dry roasted before cooking.  It is easier for my body to digest, and it tastes better too.

Rinse 1/2 C hulled millet in a metal strainer
Put into a skillet and stir over med/low heat, as the grains make little popping sounds.  Keep stirring until the grains smell toasty, but before the color darkens.

Pour millet into a saucepan containing 2 C water and 1/3 to 1/2 tsp good quality sea salt.

Bring to just under a boil and reduce heat to low simmer.  Cook tightly covered for approx. 20 minutes.

Shut heat and leave the lid on.  Let the pot sit for at least 15 minutes more.  Fluff grains.



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thanx for sharing Victoria


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So I just looked over the whole thread, and was amused at my posts .  This one was on 2/11/08:
Quoted from TJ
Since GTD, I'm actually eating less grain--because I discovered that I'm gluten-intolerant.  But I still enjoy small portions of rice on a regular basis.  Rice is the only grain I eat lately, and I'm working on going with only brown rice.


This one was on 7/28/08:
Quoted from TJ
Since I started GTD, I eat more grain, and it doesn't seem to bother me.  I eat quinoa, oats, and rice (usually brown unless I'm away from home).  I have a bowl of oat bran (like oatmeal) daily in the evening.


I guess this might be confusing to anyone reading!  I went gluten-free in January because I thought I was a Nomad, and it turned out to be a smart move because my egg sensitivity went away.  I should clarify that I didn't actually go on the GTD in Jan/Feb, I just took the gluten-free component and added it to the B-nonnie diet, and added THAT to trying to kill off yeast overgrowth.

Now that I'm on the Gatherer diet, I'm definitely eating more grain, but it's not causing a problem! (as long as I eat compliant grains)
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Isn't it amazing?  I cannot describe how happy I am to be able to tolerate wheat again.  I can't get over it.


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It isnt the amount of grains you eat; it is what grains you eat.


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