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Peppermint Twist
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Okay, folks, today the verdict was that my gums are "not that bad today".  Not that bad!  Wu HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!  And that was the dentist, the hygenist (who is new--my beloved one who has been there for years is GONE, which I'm too much in shock at the moment to go into, but anyway, the new one had nothing to compare my gums to, so I don't know how much weight to give what she said) actually said "Oh, they're actually not bad, why did you tell me to brace myself?"  So, I got a "not that bad" from the dentist who knows me (been going to her since, like, 1995) and a "actually not bad" from the hygenist.

This is AWESOME with a capital SHOCK and AWE!

I give all the glory to rinsing with a homemade tea-tree oil mouthwash (a few drops of essential oil of tea tree mixed into plain water) and taking 30 mg of CoQ10 per day, sometimes more (like, 60), rarely none.

Perhaps jettisoning potato chips once and for all helped too?  Perhaps the starch in the chips was noooo good for my gums, as it created a party atmosphere for bacteria?

Anyway, all I know is, my gums are "actually not bad"!

AND, I even asked the dentist at the very end if, ideally, she still thinks I should get another deep-cleaning.  She hesitated/pondered for about two beats and then said, "I think if you Water-Pik you can really get your gums in good order!"

OMG!  This is the first time in the memory of man that they didn't tell me that I need a deep cleaning!

Not bad is not bad, wu HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


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That's fantastic!!


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Yea!  As someone who has been recently (1 year ago) diagnosed with the signs of the start of periodontal disease, it's encouraging to know that there are things that help.

My issues are next to the two teath that have root canals in them.  I suspect that this is where the problems lies, but have no idea... other than care, how to fix this.


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Quoted from mikendomsmum
That's fantastic!!

Yay!

I hope my fellow nonnies will take heart that there is hope!  Diet, tea tree, CoQ10, all came together to rate a "actually not bad" for my gums today!

I was like "Fer reeeaal?  ...Get out of the city, are ya tellin' me for true?"  Okay, so I didn't actually say any of that, but you could have knocked me over with a feather (actually, that would have been hard because I was in the dental chair at the time, but, well, you get my gist).



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Yea!  As someone who has been recently (1 year ago) diagnosed with the signs of the start of periodontal disease, it's encouraging to know that there are things that help.

My issues are next to the two teath that have root canals in them.  I suspect that this is where the problems lies, but have no idea... other than care, how to fix this.

I really recommend the tea tree oil mouthwash!  Just get ye a bottle of NOW brand (or any 100% pure brand) of tea tree essential oil at the HFS and keep it in the fridge (not sure you need to, but I do, because it takes so long to use it all that I want to keep it fresh as a daisy).  When you want to rinse, just shake out about 3 to 5 drops of the oil into about a cup of water and swish away!  Try not to swallow any of it because tea tree oil is not to be taken internally, although a tiny bit won't hurt ya.  And don't let your pets get near it, not that they would want to.  Don't let your kids get near it, either.  But don't let me make it sound terrifying or anything, apparently you would need more than a little for it to hurt ya, certainly more than what would be in the mouthwash!

As for CoQ10, I can't say enough about it for many reasons.  It rocks my world.




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I'm using a mouth rinse that has the above (tea tree and CoQ10) and a few other things in.  I can't recall what it's called, but goodness it gives me a clean mouth.... and tastes pretty good too with no sweet things in.

I think it's Eco Dent?  I got it at my HFS, and it was DEARLY expensive.  It's on sale this month at my HFS, so I think I'll stock up.  Don't know about the 'fridge, cause my mouth is fairly sensitive with the cold stuff.


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Quoted from Olerica
I'm using a mouth rinse that has the above (tea tree and CoQ10) and a few other things in.  I can't recall what it's called, but goodness it gives me a clean mouth.... and tastes pretty good too with no sweet things in.

I think it's Eco Dent?  I got it at my HFS, and it was DEARLY expensive.  It's on sale this month at my HFS, so I think I'll stock up.  Don't know about the 'fridge, cause my mouth is fairly sensitive with the cold stuff.

Girl, try making your own because the stuff at the HFS is soooooooooooooo expensive and doesn't last long!  By contrast, the little bottle of essential oil is concentrated, so you only use a few drops each time, and the bottle costs five bucks and change I think.  I'm on only my 2nd bottle of the stuff EVER and I've been using this mouthwash for about ...hmmmm...no clue, actually, but possibly around 10 months or so.  Plus, you will be getting a much stronger concentration of the tea tree oil in your homemade concoction.

As for the CoQ10, while I think it does have some efficacy when used topically, you are better off taking a CoQ10 supplement internally for gum health, and with the money you save from that pricey mouthwash, you should just about be able to afford it *lol*!



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   ooo Peppy...please not now...don't remember me that bad thema... dentist .... ...ok-ok-after my vacation  
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Thanks for the update PT.  

Bought a bottle if TTO after I read your first thread, and started brushing my teeth with it.

My mouth has always been a nightmare, but I was not commited enough to continue.  The stuff tastes like Detol, so I know it is killing the germs.

No, I will not explain how I know what Detol tates like.


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Thanks for the update PT.  

Bought a bottle if TTO after I read your first thread, and started brushing my teeth with it.

My mouth has always been a nightmare, but I was not commited enough to continue.  The stuff tastes like Detol, so I know it is killing the germs.

No, I will not explain how I know what Detol tates like.

Nevermind what it tastes like, what IS it?  

Meanwhile, trust me, I'm not very disciplined (well...about some things I am and about others I'm NOT), but it is easy just to shake a few drops of the TTO into some water and swish it around once per day.  Come on, you can do it!  I want you to keep your teeth.

Now, back to this "Detol", what on earth is it?  Is it:

1.  An alternative fuel?
2.  An anti-smoking chewing gum?
3.  A mosquito repellant?

Come on, inquiring minds want to know!



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great news, PT. By the way...what do you use for toothpaste...I hate toothpaste, but am using a tooth powder, but wonder what others may use....esp. you cuz of your  good report!
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someone posted this recipe for tooth paste once:
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1 tube of organic tooth paste              
                        2 capsules [opened] white oak bark    
                        2 capsules [ opened] black walnut
                        10 drops lavender oil
                         2oz. colloida silver
Mix together and use with your organic toothpaste. Brush with the toothpaste, don't rince off the brush,put mixture on over toothpaste and brush again. Very good for bleeding or receiding gums, or just all over feel good ,clean feeling. I would not go back to regular toothpaste again.


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great news, PT. By the way...what do you use for toothpaste...I hate toothpaste, but am using a tooth powder, but wonder what others may use....esp. you cuz of your  good report!

Desert Essence Tea Tree Oil Toothpaste




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Congratulations Edna!  What a relief to get good news from the dreaded dentist!!!  I've been using the TTO rinse on and off now for a few months and I think it's been making a difference.  No complaints on my last visit which was only 2 weeks ago.  (OK, they want to do some work on a crown where a root canal was performed but that's a whole other can o' worms..)

BTW, sometimes I get these little sores on my tongue.  Don't know what causes them but sometimes they would last for a couple days before the went away.  Now I just dab a little TTO on them, direct from the bottle with a Q-Tip and, I swear, in a matter of hours they disappear.  If they're really stubborn, then they're gone by the next morning!  That TTO is some good stuff.

Also, I broke down and got a shower water pik from the dentist.  Actually, got one for me and my daughter, who recently got braces and I thought the water pik might do a much better job at cleaning her teeth than her brushing .....  Here's hoping that will make a difference.  It's just quite ticklish at the moment, guess I need to get used to it.

Two thumbs up for the great report!


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Quoted from Edna

Desert Essence Tea Tree Oil Toothpaste



I went to the store today to get some of this brand and lo and behold! there is carageenan AND SLS in there! Yuck!
I can't seem to find any toothpaste without any avoid gums/carageenan and without SLS; it's like it's one or the other. Grr.


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That is awesome news!  I must say I had some great dental news to about a month ago.  I went to the dentist for a cleaning for the first time in...in...I'm afraid and ashamed to say it...well...3 years!  I was so super scared to go at that point, but my hubby said we are wasting our money paying for dental if I don't at least use the check-up/cleanings, so I reluctantly went, very hesitantly, because of course, my dental past is quite sordid!

Anyway, the plaque build up was horrendous!  Poor hygenist.  She got her whole college education that day on my teeth cleaning.  She was sweatin when done with me!  BUT, miraculously and wonderfully, I had no cavities and no signs of anything serious!!!!!  I was so amazed.  I didn't even bother to tell the guy that my toothpaste contained NO flouride at all.  I had mostly used Tom's of Maine flouride free, and then Nature's Gate for a while too.  Anyway, I recently began to try this Tooth Soap I got off line made from coconut, palm, olive and other essential oils.  It tastes like SOAP alright, but it does seem to get your teeth super clean feeling.

So, diet definitely makes a difference, as if we didn't know that already!!!  It was nothing short of a miracle for me!!!  But I won't ever go that long again between cleanings, that's for sure (although I don't trust what they put in my mouth to brush my teeth, even then).  I feel woozy when I leave I think because of it.  The guy tried to give me some mouthwash with sorbitol in it, and I gently and in horror backed slowly away from that deadly tube!  No thanks, that stuff tries to kill me!!!

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I can't seem to find any toothpaste without any avoid gums/carageenan and without SLS; it's like it's one or the other. Grr.


Burt's Bees Cinnamint toothpaste.  Ingredients:
Purified water, vegetable glycerine, calcium carbonate (chalk), bentonite (clay), peppermint oil, spearmint oil, cassia oil, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), yucca schidigera extract, chlorophyll, parsley oil, xanthan gum

Yup, there's a gum, but it IS the last ingredient!  Since I started using this toothpaste, people have actually commented on how nice and white my teeth look.



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Another idea for healthy gums - add a drop of oregano oil to your brush.  

Probably best to use diluted oregano oil - I did this with 100% and it BURNED my gums.  However, my teeth and mouth were incredibly clean after and apparently it can help with diseased or receding gums.  It is quite stimulating!  I now have 25% oregano oil and will try it again.


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Another idea for healthy gums - add a drop of oregano oil to your brush.  

Probably best to use diluted oregano oil - I did this with 100% and it BURNED my gums.  However, my teeth and mouth were incredibly clean after and apparently it can helped with diseased or receding gums.  It is quite stimulating!  I now have 25% oregano oil and will try it again.


Let me know how that goes for you. I once used 100% oregano oil in my ears on the advice of my ND, but it BURNED and hurt so bad I cried. Now I'm gun-shy when it comes to Oregano oil unless it is in capsule (which I take when I can remember).


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Correction, the oregano oil I had previously used was 50%, not 100%.  That would REALLY burn...  

I just brushed using 1 drop of 25% oregano oil on my brush and while it was very tingly, it was bearable and my mouth feels great!  I'll keep doing this for a few days and see if I get used to it.


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Burts Bees also has a delicious toothpaste called Lavander Mint.  mmmmm



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Burts Bees also has a delicious toothpaste called Lavander Mint.  mmmmm


I thought I looked at that one at the store as well. Doesn't it also have some avoid in it? And as Whimsical says, does it really matter that much if it's at the end of the ingredient list? I ended up with Jason's Tea Tree Toothpaste even though it does have carageenan in it (and much to my dismay, it is NOT at the end of the ingredient list). Boo hoo .


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It has Xanthan Gum listed second from the end of a long list of great ingredients.  I'm not concerned about it because I'm not eating it.  
I have a hard time finding toothpastes without at least one ingredient that is an avoid (if eaten).  As long as it doesn't irritate the skin, I don't consider it a big issue.  Just doing the best I can with the choices I have.

I keep about 5 different kinds of natural toothpastes, as well as a mild tasting fennel soap.  I rotate using all of them so if anything is a problem, at least I won't be using it two days in a row.



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I just bought Burt's Bees Lavender Mint toothpaste. What a great taste. It reminds me of the lavender gum I used to chew as a kid...


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Yes, I think the taste is great also, Drea.  Another nice little toothpaste is Weleda Calendula Toothpaste.  It is flavored with fennel, I believe.  The taste is very subtle.  And the ingredients are quite pure.  Like Burt's bees, there may be an avoid somewhere down the line, but nothing that screamed danger at me.



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