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Don
Monday, April 24, 2006, 6:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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...my basal temp tends to run cool; no clinical evidence of hypothyroid, but clearly the furnace ain't burning hot.

Have you been following the Mitochondrial Insufficiency / Fatigue thread? It might give you some ideas about your symptoms.



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Mo Don, thanks.  I tried to follow that thread.  I found it above my head, and I can't get a handle on what the implications would be in practice.I consider myself fairly medically literate at the gross level, but not at the chemical level, and I'm a bit phobic about taking multiple supplements.  Do you know what's going on there?

PT, I should say I don't think the low BP is necessarily an indicator of hypothyroid at all.  I just see it as a sign that, to put it unscientifically, our bodies are on the slow train.  I too don't really want it to be hypothyroid, but I do wonder sometimes, and may seek out further testing from my new dr when I meet her at my next appt.

Here are the symptoms from endocrineweb.com/hypo1.html:
"Fatigue
Weakness
Weight gain or increased difficulty losing weight
Coarse, dry hair
Dry, rough pale skin
Hair loss
Cold intolerance (can't tolerate the cold like those around you)
Muscle cramps and frequent muscle aches
Constipation
Depression
Irritability
Memory loss
Abnormal menstrual cycles
Decreased libido

Each individual patient will have any number of these symptoms which will vary with the severity of the thyroid hormone deficiency and the length of time the body has been deprived of the proper amount of hormone. Some patients will have one of these symptoms as their main complaint, while another will not have that problem at all and will be suffering from a different symptom. Most will have a combination of a number of these symptoms. Occasionally, some patients with hypothyroidism have no symptoms at all, or they are just so subtle that they go unnoticed.  Note:   Although this may sound obvious, if you have these symptoms, you need to discuss them with your doctor and probably seek the skills of an endocrinologist.  If you have already been diagnosed and treated for hypothyroidism and you continue to have any or all of these symptoms, you need to discuss it with your physician.  Although treatment of hypothyroidism can be quite easy in some individuals, others will have a difficult time finding the right type and amount of replacement thyroid hormone."

Anyway, I think it's interesting that you have low BP too.  Mine runs from textbook "perfect" (110/70) to 105/58.  My pulse can be as slow as 45.  I am not a slug, but I am no longer a trained athlete (I can only claim to have been that for about 3 years in college, when I rowed and fenced, both.)  I too am told it's "wonderful," but I did have one nurse show some concern at the low pulse.  No follow-up, though.


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Peppy,
You mentioned exercising for an hour.  I just have a thought on that one.  If I really believed that I needed to exercise for an hour every day, I would never exercise at all.  I would defeat myself before I even started, because for many reasons, 1 hour is way too much for me in the way of both time and energy.
I make it my intention to simply exercise everyday.  Some days it ends up being 10 minutes, and some days, it ends up being an hour, usually it's somewhere in between.  I have to allow myself to fit it in when and where I can, or I will feel like a failure and will stop trying.  I've found that if I can even walk for 15 minutes a day, it begins to slowly shift my metabolism and I gradually begin to crave more and more exercise, and I naturally start to walk for 20 minutes, then 25 minutes, etc.



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Could it be an O nonnie thing? My temperature, my blood pressure and my pulse are really low, too. The last time I had it taken, my BP was 84/59. Nurses comment that I must exercise a lot but I don't - I exercise but I don't go overboard and I don't jog.  


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Peppy,
You mentioned exercising for an hour.  I just have a thought on that one.  If I really believed that I needed to exercise for an hour every day, I would never exercise at all.  I would defeat myself before I even started, because for many reasons, 1 hour is way too much for me in the way of both time and energy.
I make it my intention to simply exercise everyday.  Some days it ends up being 10 minutes, and some days, it ends up being an hour, usually it's somewhere in between.  I have to allow myself to fit it in when and where I can, or I will feel like a failure and will stop trying.  I've found that if I can even walk for 15 minutes a day, it begins to slowly shift my metabolism and I gradually begin to crave more and more exercise, and I naturally start to walk for 20 minutes, then 25 minutes, etc.

Victoria, very important points you make there!  I am the same way, I just have to do the best I can and not make arbitrary standards for myself like "I'm going to exercise for an hour EVERY day", because then if I don't, as you say, I'd feel like a failure.  I just do the best I can.*  And--I can't stress this enough about all aspects of the diet and exercise program--never give up, never toss it, never wave the white flag, even if you hit a bad patch.  What do I mean by "bad patch"?  Well, it could be several things, like a plateau or even weight gain, for example, in which case you just need to tweak and tune and keep on keepin' on.  Or, it could be, especially when you are "new" to the diet (and I mean "new" as in the first few YEARS, baby), that you find you occasionally really slip up and go on a little avoid bender, in which case, don't feel like a failure and totally chuck it!  POST about it (that's what I always did) and let this wonderful community give you advice and insight as to what might be going on, what you can do, etc.  I learned so much from the BTD community that I know I wouldn't be where I am today without it, and where I am is, I actually can say I don't go on "avoid benders" anymore, or it is very, VERY, exceedingly rare now.  I do see a lot of evolution in my diet for the better, but at the same time, I continue to struggle with the weight thing.  I think I always will, as I said in an earlier post.  Hopefully, at some point, I'll be struggling to KEEP the weight off, but I'll always have to work at it.  I'll never be "done" with weight management.

Anyway, back to the exercise thing:  I think all we can do is just make a commitment to doing the best we can every day.  Dat's all.

* I just suggested the hour per day because the question being asked was, what can I do to lose weight and I think that is a concrete, specific suggestion for what will work, however, I also said in the post that it is an ideal.  In the realm of the real, we just do the best we can.


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I think the comments about exercise are right on:  an hour would be ideal, but anything is good, and it's so easy to avoid doing anything if you don't have the time to commit.  I'm starting t-tapp this morning....thank goodness there's a short  tape, too!

That's weird about the low BP, temp, and pulse, glittergal!  Three so far....Peppermint, should we craft some sort of poll?  I'm fascinated by this.


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I also heard that the 'plateau' is from the body detoxing, as if the fluids are retaining the 'poisons' to later dump them.  Often people give up at this time, when they shouldn't.
Being active is certainly a key thing & it's tough as we live in a culture that promotes white collar jobs.  I purposely do more active jobs, get paid less, but the payoff is better.  I enjoy them more & get some exercise.
My humorous theory is that the diet pill industry & the illegal aliens have a conspiracy.  They take the jobs our overweight teenagers should be doing, & the diet industry keeps going.  It's only a joke, but in the 'old days' our kids & housewives did those restaurant jobs, etc.
I sometimes think I haven't gotten certain jobs because I wasn't a foreign male.
Well, I am enjoying my bakery job now--walking a mile to work, belonging to Curves, & doing the exercise ball (one of the greatest inventions of this world!)
Just another comment.  My favorite language is Spanish & if I could choose a nationality to be, it would be Mexican. I love those people, but the illegal alien situation is a different thing, not necessarily related to everyday relationships....
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For weight loss I have to avoid ALL grains including Ezekiel bread, as well as all dairy products.  I have to walk and do my stretches and floor exercises daily, and green tea seems to help.  I am thinking that it might be helpful to check on the Deflect also to see if that makes a difference.
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Wow,
this is an interesting thread for me. I just have a pesky 5 pounds to lose - but it never goes - NEVER!.  I am still stuck on Fruit being fattening.  Surely - surely it is - as it is all sugar??  

I find breakfast is hard as I really want yoghurt and Ezekiel toat - I know that I don't lose weight.  I am going to see if eliminating all grains and still eating fruit works.

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Let us know how it works, suzedgar.  I'm not gaining, and I feel good, but I'm not losing.  But I'm not as compliant all 'round as I should be on the avoids.


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To Suzedgar:
I think the secret is to focus on being healthy & the weight will take care of itself.  Do you exercise to get rid of those pesky 5 pounds?  Are you gaining muscle which weighs more? It's really how you look more than the actual weight.  Some people have heavy bones; some may weigh less, but have light bones & be unhealthier.
Maybe you are just sensitive to avoids. Whatever the situation, most on the board would LOVE to only be 5# overweight!!!!  
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