I learned my lesson from the last poll I created and this time I've set one up that CAN compare a preference for something between nons and secries.

Hypothesis:  Nonnies have a special affinity for nutritional yeast because, as food substances go, this one seems TAILOR MADE by the cosmos to be ideal for our health.

Nons and secries, please participate in the poll and let's see if my hypothesis is correct, or if there is no statistical diff between nons/secries, or if, in a surprise that rocks the world, secries LOVE nutri. yeast way more than nons could ever hope to *lol*!

very = sorry

Quoted from ISA-MANUELA

very = sorry

Don't be sorry, I'm lookin' for honest answers here!  This is all in the name of science, ya know.  If my hypothesis gets disproved, so be it.

subliminal message to nonnie readers:
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I prefer brewer's yeast.  I really hate the smell of nutritional yeast but will sprinkle a little bit here and there for the benefit.  I've run out of brewer's yeast for the time being!

Vicki,
I m not sure, but Cheryl, I think, mentioned BY as being in the diabetes food lists.

hope she sees this post later on and can specify what I think I read in one of her posts.)

I can't vote, I have no idea what nutritional yeast is.  

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nutritional yeast is what they call "primary grown for human consumption", in
other words, it is grown on media (such as beets) ,  the flavor is far better
, nutritive value, too, .  Brewer's yeast, on the other hand, is a byproduct
of the beer brewing industry, grown on hops, and can be (depending on the
brand) extremely bitter.

... though some brands seem to use the two terms interchangeably.

Best thing is to taste several kinds and see which one you prefer.

My vote definitely goes to KAL Nutritional Yeast Flakes.

Don't actually mind the taste of nutritional yeast, really quite savoury once it's mixed in, but boy the smell puts me off. Have to psych myself up to spoon some in, then actually enjoy it. Like vit B, if I eat/take it after about midday, have huge problems getting to sleep at night.
can't stand brewer's yeast tho.

carmen

As I recall{don't bet on it} back when I owned a HFS over 30 years ago, all the yeast was called 'brewers'.  And as I recall it was very bitter.  I had to convince people to use it in a way to mask the flavor.
The only yeast my local HFS sells is Kal, and I like it.
namaste
ruthie

Quoted from Sandraruba

I can't vote, I have no idea what nutritional yeast is.  

Quoted from ruthie

...back when I owned a HFS over 30 years ago, all the yeast was called 'brewers'.  And as I recall it was very bitter.  I had to convince people to use it in a way to mask the flavor. The only yeast my local HFS sells is Kal, and I like it.
namaste, ruthie

For a great primer on all things nutritional yeast, as well as on the diff between nutri. and brewer's yeasts, go here:  http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,m=1118646096

Quoted from lola

Vicki,
I m not sure, but Cheryl, I think, mentioned BY as being in the diabetes food lists.

hope she sees this post later on and can specify what I think I read in one of her posts.)

I don't recall where Brewer's yeast falls on the lists, but it is mentioned in the protocols as an alternate to chromium supplementation.  I meant to buy Brewer's yeast, naturally high in chromium, but bought nutritional yeast by mistake.  I've only used the nutritional yeast in protein smoothies where the taste wouldn't be very prominent.  If it has a cheesy flavor, it could be the solution to my cheese cravings, but I haven't really tried it for that purpose.  I can't imagine just eating a spoon of it.  I'd probably sprinkle it on other foods, like veggies and eggs.

Most comments I've seen about Brewer's yeast is that it tasted bad, so I assume the two are different.  I'd probably try to find Brewer's yeast in capsules so I don't have to taste it.

Quoted from cherylhcmba

I don't recall where Brewer's yeast falls on the lists...

For O's (as well as for all other types, btw), it is neutral for secretors, beneficial for non-secretors.

Quoted from cherylhcmba

If it has a cheesy flavor, it could be the solution to my cheese cravings, but I haven't really tried it for that purpose.

It really has a unique flavor, but the best way to describe it to one who hasn't experienced it (although, like I said, it is unique and way more complex than this suggests) is "nutty"...but that doesn't really do it justice.  I have used it in certain dishes in which it could be considered as a cheese substitute, such as rice pasta with marinara sauce and a lot of nutritional yeast, as in that case, it takes on sort of a "cheesy" role, subbing for parmesan.

Quoted from cherylhcmba

I can't imagine just eating a spoon of it.  I'd probably sprinkle it on other foods, like veggies and eggs.

For ideas on how to use nutritional yeast, as well as how NOT to use it (lol), go to the link to the sticky thread on nutritional yeast, which I provided in my last post in this thread.

Quoted from cherylhcmba

Most comments I've seen about Brewer's yeast is that it tasted bad, so I assume the two are different.  I'd probably try to find Brewer's yeast in capsules so I don't have to taste it.

Again, off to the link with you, as the diff 'twixt the two is discussed therein as well.

Lola was talking about the classification in the Diabetes book, not Typebase 4.  That's what I don't recall.  Nevermind, forgot that the Diabetes info is in Typebase 4.

I noticed over the weekend that I had penciled in nutritional yeast by the brewer's yeast entry in LR4YT, so there must have been a clarification posted at http://www.dadamo.com.  It would be nice if that were updated in Typebase 4, as you have suggested.

That sticky thread is a long one!  Those who just want to know the exact difference between NY and BY can go directly to Paul's encyclopedic post #40 (on page 2).  Here's the link again:  http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1118646096,s=0.  The two terms (nutritional yeast and brewer's yeast) are sometimes used interchangeably, however.  In fact, just about everybody's favorite, KAL Nutritional Yeast Flakes, used to be sold as "Brewer's Yeast."

Jill, I've posted a recipe for "cheese" sauce over on the sticky thread.

That thread also gives Edna's original recipe for yeast spread, to wit:

Edna's Spectacular Toast Spread:

Mix together:

2 parts dark toasted sesame oil (use other oil that is compliant)
1 part nutritional yeast flakes
1 dash** lemon juice
1 dash sea salt
optional: mashed roasted garlic, to taste

Edna -- I'm guessing that the ** means "optional" -- or what?

By the way, it was a long-running thread like that one that gave me the idea for using the signature area as an Explicit Declaration of Names Addendum (see "Screen Name History" on the Little Fishes forum: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=rost,m=1138855640).

PT,

I don't take NY at all!!

cocky

I LOVE IT, LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!!!!!!      

Debra

Love it!  (also!)

I love the taste, smell, texture, and I find that it improves the taste of just about anything I could get it into.  Although I only eat about 2 T a day.  

It feels like real food to my body, nourishing in a way that my body wants!

GO NONNIES!  

I like it to taste but boy oh boy does it beat the hell out of me, it really makes me sick as hell!
Candida outbreak ahoy, get ready to flourish, nutritional yeast coming, go mad.
To hell with any kind of yeast!!    John.

PS: I didn't vote, no category for me to vote in!

Poor John  

Sounds like me & onions/garlic -- I love the taste, but they sure do mess with my nerves!



So I leave 'em alone!

Brewer's yeast sold today is very different from nutritional yeast flakes.  

The Brewer's yeast is by Lewis Labs and the can states:  superb taste, exceptional nutritional content
This is the only Brewer's Yeast that actually tastes good!  Absolutely NO after-taste.  Totally digestible.  It will change your idea of what Brewer's Yeast really is.  This premium yeast is grown on sugar beets which are known to absorb nutrients from the soil faster than almost any other crop.  As a result, this yeast is exceptionally rich in Selenium, Chromium, Potassium, Magnesium, Sodium, Copper, Manganese, Iron, Zinc and other factors natural to yeast.  Gluten free.

	Brewer's	Nutritional
Serving size	30 grams	16 grams
Calories	116	45
Protein	16 g	8 g
Sodium	63 mg	5 mg
Total Carbohydrates	13 g	5 g
Dietary Fiber	6 g	4 g
Sugars	0 g	1 g
Total Fat	0 g	0.5 g
Thiamin B-1	80% RDI	640% RDI
Riboflavin B-2	90% RDI	570% RDI
Niacin	50% RDI	280% RDI
Iron	10% RDI	4% RDI
Pyridoxine	40% RDI	n/a
Folic Acid	15% RDI	60% RDI
Vitamin B12	5%	130%
Magnesium	8% RDI	6% RDI
Zinc	10% RDI	20% RDI
Copper	50% RDI	6% RDI
Biotin	5% RDI	8% RDI
Manganese	n/a	6% RDI
Molybendum	n/a	8% RDI
Vitamin B-6	n/a	480% RDI
Phosphorus	n/a	15% RDI
Pantothenic Acid	6% RDI	10% RDI
Inositol	101.4 mg	78.8 mg
choline	126mg	64mg
RNA/DNA	2 g	1.28 - 1.44 g
PABA	0.79 mg	n/a
Selenium	63 mcg	30% RDI
Chromium	190 mcg	n/a
Potassium	633 mcg	320 mg
Lithium	n/a	64 mcg
Nickel	n/a	32 mcg
Tin	n/a	12.8 mcg
AMINO ACIDS	Brewer's	Nutritional
Alanine	1326 mg	544 mg
Arginine	1047 mg	384 mg
Aspartic Acid	1350 mg	896 mg
Cystine	213 mg	80 mg
Glutamic Acid	1800 mg	1456 mg
Glycine	645 mg	384 mg
Histidine	357 mg	192 mg
Isoleucine	717 mg	384 mg
Leucine	876 mg	592 mg
Lysine	882 mg	704 mg
Methionine	259 mg	128 mg
Phenylalanine	675 mg	352 mg
Proline	405 mg	336 mg
serine	624 mg	432 mg
threonine	956 mg	432 mg
tryptophan	303 mg	80 mg
tyrosine	912 mg	304 mg
valine	912 mg	464 mg

Brewer's yeast also contains the following mineral and trace elements:  calcium, chromium, iron, magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, potassium, selenium, silicon, sodium, zinc

The ingredients of the Brewer's Yeast is simply brewer's yeast.

The ingredients of the KAL nutritional yeast is yeast, niacin, pyridoxine HCl, thiamine HCl, Riboflavin, and Vitamin B-12.

CAVEATS: I may have made errors, n/a simply means the data wasn't on the can - trace elements are mentioned for some but no amounts given, note the portion sizes are different, the data came from two cans that I simply have on hand, the nutritional information could change at any time - contact the manufacturer or your actual can for up to date information.

The yeast that Vicki describes is not a by-product of the brewing industry, so I wonder why they call it Brewers.  I thought that was what distinguished brewers from nutritional yeast.  ??

Exactly, Victoria -- I'm not sure that anyone is selling actual recycled brewer's yeast any more.  When the same organism is grown for human consumption, most companies call it nutritional yeast, but a few still call it brewer's yeast.  When good ol' KAL flakes was sold in a yellow paper bag, it was called brewer's yeast.  The name may have changed about same time that they switched to the big can, but I didn't notice until recently, because the product looks and tastes exactly the same.

Has anyone besides Vicki tasted the Lewis Labs yeast lately?  I tasted it only once, years ago, and -- well, maybe it didn't have an aftertaste, but the before taste was pretty nasty!  Seems like I heard someone else make a similar comment around here somewhere, but Vicki's report makes me wonder whether that other comment may also have been based on an outdated experience.

Then there are (or at least were) other species of yeast also sold as nutritional supplements.  Does anyone still sell torula yeast?

The only way to determine which brewer's/nutritional yeast is best for you is to a) compare the nutritional information on the labels, b) buy one or more brands and try them in a recipe such as Edna's Spread (see post # 14, above), and then c) wait for any digestive effects.

The nutrients for Lewis Labs brewer's yeast is totally different from the nutrients in KAL's nutritional yeast flakes.  They are definitely different products.  

Lewis Labs grow their yeast on sugar beets.  KAL grows their yeast, Saccharomyces Cerevisiae, on molasses.  

I suspet that Lewis Labs uses the yeast species that is typically used by brewer's, hence the name.  I will contact them to find out if this is true.

Vicki, does Lewis Labs yeast have a better nutritional profile than KAL?