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 POLL/nonnies only: Do you love sour/bitter tastes?
I love sour/bitter tastes! (63 votes)
50.40%
I can take 'em or leave 'em (38 votes)
30.40%
I loathe and detest them! (24 votes)
19.20%
125 Votes Total Last vote Sunday, January 3, 2016, 4:23am by Serenity
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POLL/nonnies only: Do you love sour/bitter tastes?
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RedLilac
Sunday, July 1, 2012, 2:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I read my comment from 6 years ago.  Now I know why I’m in the minority in loathing sour/bitter, I’m a super Taster.  I didn’t know that back then.


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I'm voting on behalf of my nonnie DH who hates both bitter and sour.  He might be a super taster too.
Have to ask him how he did with the taste strip.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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Don and Lola- you all I think are in a sub group of secreting nonnies, research hasn't been done on you yet, so....................get back

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Has Dr. D'Adamo elaborated on this sub group of secreting nonnies? Someone from ifhi mentionned that they thought I may be one. Would be nice to know.  

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Has Dr. D'Adamo elaborated on this sub group of secreting nonnies?


you might be referring to the LDN

have a Lewis antigen serotyping test done and find out


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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
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Hi every body,

I've not posted since long time. I was sick !

I love sour and bitter much more: Dandelion,curcuma,zucchini,endives...
Currently, i eat lots of endives with my quinoa !
I voted.


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Sour and Bitter are actually two very separate categories.

Vinegar is sour. Lime juice is sour. Tamarind and some berries are sour. Some cheeses and yogurt, too. Sour cream, tomatoes, fermented foods, are considered Sour.
Endive is bitter. Dandelion greens, arugula and Kale are bitter. Rhubarb. Coffee. Turmeric, too.

In Ayurveda, these are very distinct:
Sour is good, and bitter is bad for Vata.
Sour is bad for Pitta and Kapha, but bitter is good for both.

Also note: Currently, the results are running exactly even, for 50.00% having a special love of sour and bitter tastes, and 50.00% not, with 108 votes in. So, there would seem to be no correlation.



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I like sour and bitter tastes  
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I really like sour tastes, esp. in candys.  Not sure if I like bitter.  I like all tastes come to think of it!!  I like coffee straight and drink teas straight and steeped strong.

San J I think I tend towards pitta as my base and then vata and kapha are a tie for second.  Definitely tend towards pitta imbalances and when healthy have good pitta strengths at my disposal (instead of becoming enraged or not verbalizing thoughts well I talk directly and with command, have great digestion instead of acid reflux and burning.)
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Sec, so didn't vote, thought those have done 23&me would like to know there is a gene for this
variation

You are heterozygous at all 3 of the SNPs which are known to influence the ability to taste bitterness. This means you are better than average at detecting bitter tastes while young, but that this ability will decrease to less than average during adulthood. As a child you will probably hate brussel sprouts, and by early adulthood will discover that olives and brussel sprouts now taste good. A 2010 study shows the change bitter sensitivity which occurs over the lifespan (from bitter sensitive to less so) is more common in people with this genoset. Children with this genotype could perceive a bitter taste at lower PROP concentrations than could heterozygous adults. The threshold for adolescents was intermediate. The 3 SNPs are rs10246939, rs1726866, rs713598 in the gene TAS2R38

even so I still love my bitters, and sours


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Wow, I can't believe that this poll I started in 2006 is still active on the forum with new posts--cool.  It seems from the results thus far (though of course this is a non-scientific poll) that we nonnies really do tend to like sour tastes.

Thought so.  Day-um, I'm good.


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Just thinking about sour/bitter foods will create a yuck face.  


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist
Wow, I can't believe that this poll I started in 2006 is still active on the forum with new posts--cool.  It seems from the results thus far (though of course this is a non-scientific poll) that we nonnies really do tend to like sour tastes.

Thought so.  Day-um, I'm good.

Hi there, PT.
Someone responded to your poll today, so it came up on the board.

The results of your three-answer poll show approximately 1/3 answering somewhere in the middle, worded so as to signify complete indifference to these tastes, which is itself an unusual answer.
The extreme likes and dislikes, however, show the likes to be over twice as numerous as the "can't stand" population.

Bear in mind that, as Carol the Dabbler (remember her?) replied years ago, you did not allow those who'd have answered (as I would have, had I met your Non-Secretor requirement) that they like /appreciate these tastes but don't fancy/crave them in an extreme, outstanding way.
So we have no way of knowing what percent of your most enthusiastic respondents actually simply find no plate complete without a sour and/or a bitter component (as most chefs would insist upon as a matter of course), rather than "taking or leaving" them, which, again, itself departs from most average culinary standards; they had no box, reflecting their own taste, to tick here.
That's a huge untouched "normal" ("Control", in Science-talk) ground.  

Therefore the results don't imply any intense nonnie proclivity, sad to say.


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Interesting input from Ayurveda, a system majoring in Tastes.
It recognizes six of them:
Bitter, Pungent, Astringent, Sweet, Sour, and Salty.
It also posits 3 doshas (constitutions as well as more temporary conditions):
Vata, Pitta, and Kapha.
Each dosha is pacified by three tastes and aggravated by the other three.

This thread treats of two tastes, SOUR and BITTER.
SOUR pacifies Vata and aggravates Pitta and Kapha.
BITTER aggravates Vata and pacifies Pitta and Kapha.
This means that someone of predominantly Vata constitution, for example, would do well to de-emphasize the BITTER tastes on a plate and to include and favor the SOUR ones, etc.

We do not always fancy the taste we most need to emphasize.
We may in fact habitually fancy a taste that is aggravating our constitution or condition.

Also: Certain cuisines tend to favor some tastes over the others; individuals within cultures negating important tastes may need to concertedly make use of the culturally-neglected tastes they need.


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I gravitate towards sweet and sometimes hot and spicy foods (i guess salty and pungent in the ayruvedic language).

Upon further consultation and experience, i find that i must be most wary of upsetting vata in the fall and winter and pitta in the summer.  Different needs for different points of the year.  I also learned to avoid use of an herb that can increase or amplify vata, but can use certain ones that may increase pitta without causing problems, as long as vata is not aggravated with it.  That being said, i dislike sour and bitter tastes!

My taste preferences change but sweet and hot are my favorites, and salty.

Here is a reference for describing vata, pitta, and kapha for people reading who do not know what it is.  Dr. D. incorporates this ancient Indian medical system into his works.

http://www.eattasteheal.com/ayurveda101/eth_bodytypes.htm  

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