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Patty Lee
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Anyone have a good idea for a strategy to get REAL nonnie recipes going as a thread? Should we have separate threads depending on ABO status?  I am absolutely a-quiver with the thought of seeing a recipe that I can actually use without changing ingredients, and I'd love to see such recipes not get buried in the ever-speedier flow of forum activity. Ideas?


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sure!!

perhaps if those admitted to the already existing nonnie list would share some of their favorite recipes..........that would be a start.

all other recipes we could try tweaking them and make them compliant, with the help and expertise of all!!! )


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and those are all nonnie ''certified''?  lol

or should we start working on substitutions?


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Well, they are all for ME (cause everything is about me, ya know), so they are good to go for type O nonnies.  And, if you click on the link and go to the entry in Recibase, it should say which BTs they are good for (this is a required field for loading recipes).

I have some more that I will enter into Recibase (and post the links here), and some for type A that I haven't really gotten into yet.  

There are LOTS more recipes (organized by BT) on Recipes4Nonsecretors.  This is where some of my recipes and ideas originated, although by now I have probably changed them a lot - I tend to continually adjust things.  I'm assuming that Nina (the moderator and founder of that group) is still accepting new members...  But, yes, you do have to be a CONFIRMED nonsecretor according to the rules.  The people in the group are wonderful though!


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great thank!

I believe you send them all once, remember? )

Laura there are some recipes you might want to implement for your gathering maybe? )


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Everyone here could post at least one of their regular favorites!  Mine is boring but I like it!

Sole fried in butter with fresh parsley.  Add some lemon or lime juice.  Season with sea salt and fresh pepper before frying.  There is something about sole (except rex) that is delicious!


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but don't ya think it would be great to stay on this board even as being a nonnie = integrating the
*yahoo-hooden nonnies ....that enables me my lacking entrance from last November 05
to get settled into ........
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nonnie salad dressing

1/4 cup chicken broth (I suppose veg for b's)
2 tbl lemon juice
1 tbl compliant mustard w/seeds
1 tbl olive oil
1/2 tsp sea salt
1/4 tsp fresh ground pepper


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Quoted from slyparrot


1/4 cup chicken broth (I suppose veg for b's)


or turkey broth



Having chicken and salad tonight. Will give it a try sly...thanks    

Debra


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Has the rating on pepper changed?  I miss it terribly, and noticed that in most of your recipes above, pepper is an ingredient.  Do you use it, even though it's an avoid?
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Typebase 4 is confusing on the pepper issue

Click on the Heading:
PEPPER/ CAYENNE/ RED FLAKES/ JALAPENO/ CHILI
And up pops:
PEPPER / PEPPER CORN OR CAYENNE

SCIENTIFIC NAME: CAPSICUM SP.

FRANCAIS: POIVRE/MAS OU POIVRE DE CAYENNE DE POIVRE

General Description:

A hot, pungent powder made from several of various tropical CHILES that originated in French Guyana. Cayenne pepper is also called red pepper.

This is neutral for type B & O secretor & non.

Click on the Heading:
PEPPER/PEPPERCORN/ BLACK/ WHITE
And up pops:
PEPPER / BLACK/ WHITE

SCIENTIFIC NAME: PIPER NIGRUM

FRANCAIS: POIVRE/NOIR/BLANC
Pepper in one form or other is used around the world to enhance the flavor of both savory and sweet dishes. Because it stimulates gastric juices, it delivers a digestive bonus as well. The world's most popular spice is a berry that grows in grapelike clusters on the pepper plant (Piper nigrum), a climbing vine native to India and Indonesia. The berry is processed to produce three basic types of peppercorn black, white and green.

This is an avoid for all.



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the avoid status is due to the mold present in store bought ground pepper.

table pepper mills are therefore adviced.



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I just wonder whether the heading "PEPPER / PEPPER CORN OR CAYENNE" might be a typo, since peppercorns and cayenne peppers are two entirely different things, from two entirely different, entirely unrelated plants that just happen to share the same name -- sort of like Dash dog food and Dash laundry detergent.


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I believe the values of peppers in general were just checked by Dr D.


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Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
I just wonder whether the heading "PEPPER / PEPPER CORN OR CAYENNE" might be a typo, since peppercorns and cayenne peppers are two entirely different things, from two entirely different, entirely unrelated plants that just happen to share the same name -- sort of like Dash dog food and Dash laundry detergent.


Yes, it is a typo.  Dr. D corrected the index page but did not correct the headings on the pages themselves when he made the changes to the pepper entries a few months ago.
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K, now actually TYPEbase 4 is the definitive source on all things pepper. Interestingly, the confusion extends to the books as well, which makes sense since the book manuscripts have always (since LR) run off of tables as well, but also have to be typeset, which introduces a human factor. The original tables stem from ones done long ago by Steve Shapiro, and some of his classification verbiage snuck in as well, since he occasionally added things or descriptions based upon what I posted on the old message board.

Going back over older notes, it appears that there are two basic categories "peppers" and "pepper". "Peppers" are vegetables. "Pepper" is a spice. There are two basic categories of "peppers" (only delineated by their carotenoid content, hence their color).

"Pepper" contains two categories, but they really have nothing to do with each other. "Black Pepper" contains "Peppercorns" and "White Pepper".  The entry "Cayenne Pepper" (which actually contains anything with capsaicin) which it turns out includes "Red Flakes" "Chili Peppers" and "Jalapeno" which are just a non-dried versions. Sources of capsaicin are actually medicinal herbs and may very well assume other values in disease states, which is different from telling people to eat it as a food.


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Thanks, Don.  That sort of thing can drive me nuts!


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No! No! No!  When you click on pepper/cayenne, the next page has peppercorns listed at the top.  That is why I thought it was ok to eat!  I have been eating fresh ground peppercorns in alot of my food thinking it was ok!  Someone on the forum also told me that freshly ground peppercorns were ok but prepared pepper was not.  This stinks!  I will have to experiment more with cayenne and/or other pepper sources!  Maybe replace it with red pepper flakes!


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for Os it is ok......freshly ground is fine......
we (including nonnies) have high IAP levels, unlike As.


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So O's are the only ones allowed to have freshly grounded peppercorns?  Why doesn't it say that on the typebase?

Does this include the pink and green ones?  I was gonna get the entire peppercorn collection for variety.


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one nonnie's food is an avoid for the other nonnie

no chickies forrr me...either
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I have drastically cut down my use of fresh ground peppercorns, basically eliminated the use of them.

My take on it is if you are sure the peppercorns are 100% intact than they may be OK to grind and use, but if they are damaged in any way then the risk of mold exists. I am not going to examine every peppercorn so I just choose to avoid them.

I find that ground red pepper and red pepper flakes work for me as a substitute most of the time.


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I love freshly ground pepper!!!

I carry a pocket size grinder with me, always! )


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I probably wouldn't avoid fresh ground peppercorns if I was totally healthy.

However, since I am still trying to recover from the damage that candida did to me I decided that I could do without peppercorns and avoid any possible mold risk associated with their use.


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always listen to your body, right? )

that s the most important step.

hope you totally recover soon, Don.


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