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Dr. D
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http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2010/10/07/the-epigenetics-of-lifespan/


The beneficial effects of caloric restriction (or therapies that mimic caloric restriction) appear to exert transgenerational effects -at least in rotifers. A new study appears to implicate the enzyme catalase with the longevity benefits of caloric restriction.


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Thanks for posting that, Dr. D., an interesting read for sure.  I'm not sure I'm disciplined enough to impose caloric restriction on myself, and I don't really trust pharmaceuticals (when I watch those commercials the side effects always sound as bad if not worse than the condition the drug is supposed to cure); but I'm also trying not to become obese and therefore most definitely cut my life short.  It's a walk down a fine line.  It looks like half the American population (obese) are headed toward a shorter lifespan.  I sometimes see young women in their teens and 20s who are fatter than I am now at 52, and then I wonder how big they'll be by the time they get to my age.  If they live that long.  
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NAP 'Cortiguard' has the Ayurvedic herb Bacopa in it. Bacopa enhance catalase in the nervous system, which may help explain its nice effects on the brain

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20678517


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and thus, a great synergist when caloric restriction is involved.....for weight loss
together with following the guidelines.

here again, the gut/brain relation.....


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I read the blog with great interest, as I used to worry so much about my husband's eating habits (or lack thereof). He has been imposing caloric restrictions on himself without doing it consciously. I was afraid this kind of "fasting" would do harm to his gut bacteria. But it seems that it is not so harmful after all? It gives me hope that he will live very long  

I wonder though how do we define calorie restriction in a human being? How low is still "safe"?


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It seems that maybe we need efficient food that is not necessarily high in calories. No room for a ton of empty calories.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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If weight is steady, then there are enough calories to maintain the current level of activity.  

As AKArtlover said, "we need efficient food that is not necessarily high in calories. No room for a ton of empty calories".  Low caloric intake requires a high density of nutrition, so that all needs are met.  Easily assimilated food, requiring no extra work load on the body just to process it. Food that satisfies the body physically as well as the mind.  Hi-octane fuel, efficient;  natural, fresh food, rich in an assortment of deeply pigmented colors;  plenty of protein and a balance of vegetables, fruits and healthy fats.

It's not about starving oneself.  



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Quoted from Victoria
If weight is steady, then there are enough calories to maintain the current level of activity.  

As AKArtlover said, "we need efficient food that is not necessarily high in calories. No room for a ton of empty calories".  Low caloric intake requires a high density of nutrition, so that all needs are met.  Easily assimilated food, requiring no extra work load on the body just to process it. Food that satisfies the body physically as well as the mind.  Hi-octane fuel, efficient;  natural, fresh food, rich in an assortment of deeply pigmented colors;  plenty of protein and a balance of vegetables, fruits and healthy fats.

It's not about starving oneself.  


Well said Victoria!


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Victoria
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Well said Victoria!


You provided the seed thought for that little speech!  



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There is a comment at the end of the article about Audrey Hepburn suffering from all kinds of ailments due to the fact that she lived through the hunger winter (WWII). The first thought that came to me was that malnutrition is something completely different then CR. Am I right?
With CR you do get the (or some) necessary nutrition right?




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I think the goal of CR is to get super concentrated nutrician, so your body functions optimally on less calories. Not only from the genetic standpoint that Dr. D talked about, but it's logical that the body has to do less work in digestion. In empty calories, unless you are doing excessive physical work, it seems like the net effect is such a lower payoff-- and the things we consider "empty" these are usually things that either have additives or high sugars or fats and the body has to work harder to process. The standard fast food diet of America-- empty calories. Always hungry. Starving in the land of plenty, I call it.

My niece and nephew are 18 year old eating machines. I doubt there is an unused calorie for them as they are both runners with rabbit metabolisms. They eat sooo much, they are likely getting their nutrients, but in an innefficient manner. They aren't eating fast food, but they have never seen a dessert they didn't like. It fits what they are choosing to do right now.

I met a gal who lived through a war on canned spinach and tomatoes. That is not conscious CR; that's desparation. Will she get the same genetic effect? Maybe. Maybe that would be a blessing from the bad time she went through.

Ramble, ramble.  


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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I hope people with anorexia won’t use this study as justification for their actions.  AKArtlover’s statement, "we need efficient food that is not necessarily high in calories. No room for a ton of empty calories" should set the standard.


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Dr.D I LOVE A THREAD for each BLOG, for honestly so much phew just over my hairline .. so a discussion on each will be wonderful.. makes it much more meaningful, and I feel less stupid/intimidated to ask a question.. yet I feel other might not understand all every time either.


I think today when we talk of food -enough or not- most have no clue.. I had brought up teens that starved for lack of planning by their mother so there was no food.. paper filled in at the end of the month, but when they had food, then they ate with two hands and mostly less nutritious foods.. now of the 3 kids are skinny the fourth and youngest is way over the top from the beginning- but all solid as she walks and swimms a lot.. still I wonder about CR in their case .. what might it mean..

as for the over weight 23 year old.. what will be here life?  even doing BTD for 3 month strict (I was there) she is O neg and Nonnie  - she did not seem to loose any weight - maybe at best not added any.  and in her case had such sever heartburn that she ended up in urgent care (me bringing her) 3 times in one week thinking she had heart failure.. when she was 18..  she still suffers but actually less even with all junk food now..  


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AKArtlover, I think you really understand this concept.  There may be other applications for the calorie restriction concept from a scientists' viewpoint, for the sake of experiments.  But from our perspective, we who are all about the highest level of health possible, calorie restriction has to be about a diet that meets all our nutritional needs, not one that starves us.  You're right that most SAD diets are high in calories, low in nutrition, leaving the eater so unsatisfied that they compulsively keep eating in an attempt to meet the unmet needs.

Healthy CR is the opposite of that approach;  Leaving off empty foods in favor of potent, easily used power-packed fuel that is appropriate for each person's own body type.  That sure sounds like a good idea to me.



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caloric restriction doesn t mean nutrient restriction


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Quoted from Lola
caloric restriction doesn t mean nutrient restriction


Way to sum it up, Lola.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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So, how many calories  = CR? One of the things I've liked best about BTD/GTD is the fact that when I eat the way I'm supposed to be eating, I'm sated. One of the big draw-backs to most "diets" is that a person is walking around hungry all day long. If I were hungry all day long I would not be able to keep up the program and I would not have quality of life. I'd rather have a shorter, happier life than a long one where I was constantly hungry.


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I don't know the answer, but I'm with you on the quality of life issue.  Although, I can't help think that I'm far better off following GTD and eating as much I need, rather than following my previous diet of eating lots of toxins and starving to death...  I know that I am healing very intensely now and that can't be having a strong aging effect...


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I hear ya ABjoe, I'm very happy with swamiX, I'm in better shape now than I've ever been.


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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So, how many calories  = CR? One of the things I've liked best about BTD/GTD is the fact that when I eat the way I'm supposed to be eating, I'm sated. One of the big draw-backs to most "diets" is that a person is walking around hungry all day long. If I were hungry all day long I would not be able to keep up the program and I would not have quality of life. I'd rather have a shorter, happier life than a long one where I was constantly hungry.


I think the term CR is subjective.  It's certainly not a "part" of the BTD/GTD.

After a long time on Dr. D's programs, I have gotten to know my body better than I used to, and it is easier for me to understand what it is asking for.  My own take on CR is that I have found that my own body functions much better without having to deal with empty food in any form.  That gives me the responsibility to make sure that what I do eat is super nutritious (for my own unique body), well balanced and satisfying.  I would not be happy in a state of deprivation.  My diet is rich and luscious.

I never count calories, or even think about them.  However, I can see that I'm eating the amount of calories that my body needs to maintain strong energy and hold my weight at the level that I was in college, without dieting.  



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putting together meals, using your genoharmonic combinations, and or SFs and diamonds,
gives me nutrient rich satisfaction, always....
I never have cravings, and can go for hours without feeling hungry.....
also the quantity of food I need, has been very much diminished.....
I love my lifestyle!


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... but if we can find things that work like CR, then we'd have the best of all things.


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So I followed some thing on the web.. about (rapid) weight loss..for me at least get off dead center..

It recommended the following:

4 meals a day.. up to 300 calories.. I don't count calories I know a luncheon plate is ok for me.. or a saucer is half that..

4 meals spaced 4 hour apart.. for me 3 hours would be better.. as I am a constant grazer.. bad HABITS..

the other thing needed is to eat 2 vegetables before eating.. so some green leaves and carrots or a salad?  then my reg O non secr foods..

4  protein drinks 1 before each meal.. not protein like ensure... but my BTD O protein.. I seem to do ok with 1 spoon and some blueberries or pineapple.. so no big deal..

then the guy recommended many glasses of ice water in between .. I have seen that before.. might be ok as it is supposed to use energy for digestion..and then again I need the liquid..

At the end of it all exercise..

I think I wish to try the regimen, it seems not frightening because of the protein drink .. I might not become fearful of becoming hungry.. a rather stupid fear as I have never been hungry.. but my psyche is messed up..

and then if I eat Swami.. --wo--man : that might be a mighty way to do things right..

ANY comments??  
    


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Victoria and Lola, these sharings/testimonials are wonderful. I'm going to keep them. Just grateful to have met the diet, the boards, yourselves.



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Victoria and Lola, these sharings/testimonials are wonderful. I'm going to keep them. Just grateful to have met the diet, the boards, yourselves.



  And right back at ya, yaeli!



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