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alexandrasandra
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In the kitchen I use only olive oil, I never use oils.

However, I have a weakness for rice milk, oat milk (rice drinks, oat drinks). I love rice milk Oatly (from Sweden). Oatly just doesn't have added oil (one that I like).
But some oat drinks or rice drinks/oat milk, rice milk, have a small amount of ingredients: water, rice (14%) from organic farming, sunflower seed oil from organic farming, sea salt. 100% vegetable, gluten free.

Or another rice milk have ingredients : rice base 99% (water, rice 13,5% from Organic farming-EE Control System, Rice oil, salt). With no added sugar, contains naturally occurring sugars, EU-Agriculture.

The oil content is very small, maybe less than 0.1%.
The calorific value is also very low (100 ml : 35kcal, fat 0,5, or another rice-drink in 100 ml : 55kcal, fat 1,1g). I think calorific value is low.

I hope that this Rice-drinks and Oat-drinks are beneficial for group type B ?




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how about reading ingredients  and comparing to your list

all are easy to make
give it a try......no junk added

http://iskra.tripod.com/nomilk/altmilk.htm


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A product is an "avoid" if it contains ANY avoid ingredients, even in tiny amounts. But not everybody is that strict- it's up to you how compliant you want and need to be.

Remember, too, that "neutral" foods are acceptable; some of these products may be acceptable without being "beneficial."

Since you're a B, why not use regular dairy milk rather than processed fake milks?


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Quoted from Lola
how about reading ingredients  and comparing to your list

all are easy to make
give it a try......no junk added

http://iskra.tripod.com/nomilk/altmilk.htm


Thank You. Yes, this is great, You are right.
I'm still learning how to prepare healthy food. I also want to connect the blood type group diet with organic food. It is not always easy, because not all organic/ecological products are beneficial for my group B and many organic products are avoid for me.
But thanks for this link !!! For sure I should do this own, it will be always healthier and better, because I will not add any oil.
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A product is an "avoid" if it contains ANY avoid ingredients, even in tiny amounts. But not everybody is that strict- it's up to you how compliant you want and need to be.

Remember, too, that "neutral" foods are acceptable; some of these products may be acceptable without being "beneficial."

Since you're a B, why not use regular dairy milk rather than processed fake milks?


I'd rather be restrictive, because I noticed that after rice drink with sunflower oil I felt very bad. Even started me a headache. I have always headache after sunflower oil.

When I drink oat-drink without sunflower oil, only oat, water and salt, I feel much better. I also don't like salt. I noticed that the same products without the addition of salt makes me feel "lighter" and better.

Yes, I am group B and I love dairy. Fortunately, I can eat it!
My only problem is (and it is actually the reason why I drink the rice milk) is the fat content. Cow's milk from organic farming have a fat content of 1.5%. Also, goat milk 1.5%. Sheep milk is worse - even I can't find the 1.5% and in shops the lowest is 3.5%.

I feel better when I drink lower fat content. Sometimes I drink 1-1,5 liter of milk a day (I love milk), or I prepare the porridge (with milk 1.5%) is quite oily, with rice bran it is also quite oily.

I find cow's milk with a fat content 0% and 0.5%, but it don't comes from organic farming. It is a simple normal milk, in Poland, in my opinion it is unhealthy milk.

I like also milk without lactose, but often it also doesn't come from organic farming (only SOBBEKE is BIO certified).

Rice drinks have a fat content of 0.5% ... and always comes from organic farming...
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Well I don´t believe in non -or low fat dairy
I think B´s should drink full fat milk 3,5 - 4 % fat - in small amounts
- luckily I can get very good organic milk.
Fullfat milk contains all the vitamins like A, D and k2 - while nonfat milk doesn´t.
I have lost weight just my changing my dairy habits to real milk

I think that rice and oat milk should be renamed to rice.juice- the high carb contents do nothing good for me.
When I use non dairy milk I aways use almond milk- at least I get some ok fats .
B´s are not supposed to be low fat


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Well I don´t believe in non -or low fat dairy
I think B´s should drink full fat milk 3,5 - 4 % fat - in small amounts
- luckily I can get very good organic milk.
Fullfat milk contains all the vitamins like A, D and k2 - while nonfat milk doesn´t.
I have lost weight just my changing my dairy habits to real milk

I think that rice and oat milk should be renamed to rice.juice- the high carb contents do nothing good for me.
When I use non dairy milk I aways use almond milk- at least I get some ok fats .
B´s are not supposed to be low fat


I'm not dieting and absolutely I can't lose weight because I am very slim. I weigh very little. I became interested in blood diet for health reasons, I was always interested health and well-being. I'm healthy but I see other people who eat junk food and I'm also interested in dietetics (interesting knowledge about people).

For group B I read that beneficial are low-fat dairy products, rather than fat dairy products. But this is evident in every diet (andit doesn't have to be blood group diet).
I just don't like fatty foods, don't taste me and after I feel sick. When I eat fatty dish, turns my head. I feel good only after low-fat products, even though I know that these 0% are unhealthy (0% therefore I don't consume, only 1.5%). But sometimes after the milk of 1.5% (when I drink too much) I feel bad, hence my interest in rice and oat milk.

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And is Rice and Oat-drinks beneficial for type group B ?

Does anyone know ?
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And is Rice and Oat-drinks beneficial for type group B ?

Does anyone know ?

Rating for rice milk:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?350

It doesn't appear that oat milk is rated, so as long as there aren't avoid ingredients in it, it should be neutral, at least.


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Quoted from alexandrasandra
I'm still learning how to prepare healthy food. I also want to connect the blood type group diet with organic food. It is not always easy, because not all organic/ecological products are beneficial for my group B and many organic products are avoid for me.
But thanks for this link !!! For sure I should do this own, it will be always healthier and better, because I will not add any oil.


The transition to buying, cooking and eating right is a learning experience. Takes a lot of focus. I think you're doing great!  

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I know you are looking for the healthiest products for you personally, but I felt the need to say how incredibly fortunate you are to have rice and oat "milk" in your country that do not contain the vegetable gums which are so bad for all of us and which are in all but a VERY few products sold in the US (including "organic").

Congratulations on studying the diet carefully and consciously making wise decisions.


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Quoted from ABJoe

Rating for rice milk:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?350

It doesn't appear that oat milk is rated, so as long as there aren't avoid ingredients in it, it should be neutral, at least.


Thanks for this link ! So rice-drink is beneficial for me    Hurra !!!  

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Well Alexandrasandra it is not so simple

In my swami ( personal gtd)
Full-fat dairy is superfoods
While low and no fat dairy is only neutral



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The transition to buying, cooking and eating right is a learning experience. Takes a lot of focus. I think you're doing great!  



Thanks   Yes, I'm still learning, especially cooking
I wish you also a successful diet and great food  
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I know you are looking for the healthiest products for you personally, but I felt the need to say how incredibly fortunate you are to have rice and oat "milk" in your country that do not contain the vegetable gums which are so bad for all of us and which are in all but a VERY few products sold in the US (including "organic").

Congratulations on studying the diet carefully and consciously making wise decisions.


Thank you. In Poland there are a lot of ordinary products that come from the countryside - these products don't have BIO-certificates, but in fact they are organic products. Just poor people don't add chemicals, pluck apples and other fruits from his farm and sell because of poverty. They don't realize how much luxury is this food.

However, generalizing, I don't have a good opinion about Poland. In supermarkets are available junk food, lots of preservatives and chemicals. People don't think about it, buy it, because it's cheap.

About organic food and bio-shops, most of the products (90-95%) is imported from Germany, England, Italy, Spain. They have European BIO-certificates.

The only positive aspect of my country is the ability to purchase products from ordinary poor people from the countryside. This is real vegetables and fruits, without chemistry. They don't have BIO-certificate, but don't need. Paradoxically, the poor people believe that their food is such a simple, and supermarkets are a luxury. This follows from old-thinking that : what comes from the west, is a luxury.
The truth is exactly the opposite. (I mean about food in large supermarkets).


/P.S. When I gave my Mom to try organic oatmeal, organic plum-juice and organic apples, she said: "Alexandra, I ate this 30 years ago, everyone ate this out of poverty, because there was nothing else." "Oh! These apples I ate when I was little, others apples didn't exist." "Such a this juice did my mother 30 years ago, she pluck and squeeze plums".
She remembered the taste food from 30 years ago./

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Well Alexandrasandra it is not so simple

In my swami ( personal gtd)
Full-fat dairy is superfoods
While low and no fat dairy is only neutral



Hi, Yes I guess, that itsn't so simple. But I don't know my SWAMI. And Status Secretor... It's still to hard for me how can I know which is my SWAMI.
Recently I readed something about the genotype. I already got the book, but I don't know if this is the same what SWAMI genotype.

I only know, that my blood type group is B Rh D +. This is all. I don't know what is D (probably antigen D).
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Let's not forget that we're all individuals. While Henriette does better on low carb, high fat, it sounds like alexandrasandra does better on a low-fat diet- even though they're both Bs.

Antigen D is the rh factor. If you got blood typed in the USA, they would call you "B+" rather than "B Rh D +" It's the same thing.

I'm a big fan of whole foods, not lowfat anything. Back when I didn't know about BTD, I'd cut back on my total dairy intake if I felt I couldn't handle the fat content or the sugar content of so much whole milk.

It sounds like you're OK with whole milk, as long as you keep the portions down? 1 to 1.5 liters of milk a day is a LOT. It's my understanding that about a pint of milk (half a liter) is a more appropriate daily portion, for those who tolerate dairy. If you're eating that much milk, it may be interfering with your getting enough meat, or beans, or other aspects of your diet.

If you really want lowfat milk, is it possible for you to buy whole milk from the countryside that's not homogenized, and let the cream float to the top, and skim it off before drinking it? Maybe resell the cream?


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