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ginnyTN
Thursday, May 22, 2014, 3:50am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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The homeopathic practitioner I see is now doing hair analysis - or rather, has an arrangement to send your hair to a good lab.  They return a food list.  Her comment is "if it says don't eat it on your list, DO NOT EAT IT".

Before I spend a significant amount of money to have this done it would be most helpful to know:

Do they do hair analysis at Dr. D's clinic as part of total work up?

What Do I Do if the list comes back with some of my SWAMI diamond items as "don't eat"?

Has anyone had this done, and if so what can you share with me in terms of information that would be helpful before I spend my money?  


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Hello ginnyTN, I have had hair analysis done once, not at Dr D's clinic though. I don't think it is a routine test but I am sure the other people on this forum will confirm this for you.
In my case, the analysis did not mention any foods, it was done to find out what minerals I am deficient in, nutrient imbalances, and what heavy metals (such as mercury, aluminum, copper) have lodged in my cells. The report I received back also goes into detail about how one's thoughts/emotions/stress can affect different organs such as the liver/kidneys and how this in turn affect how the body eliminates toxins, it is quite complex/detailed and so a good practitioner or nutritionist may be helpful to guide you. It can be costly, especially if one decides to do follow up tests and take supplements, I was unable to continue partly due to the costs, but also due to other factors. At the end of the day, some people need to find their own way when it comes to healing and getting the body back to optimum health. It's an individual decision as your body/system is different from other peoples as are the causes for any health issues/diseases.
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hair food test =

unreliable and even if you send two bits of hair and they are both tested at the same time, they will give you different results.unless, of cource you are an amazing tester like my buddy Amazone oxo

hair mineral test =

useful but expensive.


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it depends of the performer and his/her abilities..& his/her machinas...dearest PCUK ....


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I did a hair analysis many years ago, also to determine what I was lacking in terms of minerals etc. I have read mixed reviews on hair analysis, and don't think I would bother doing it again.I don't think I'd be inclined to use it to guide me on what to eat given we have the Swami diet we can use.
I've read that you can test for yourself what foods you might be sensitive to by doing a pulse test, assuming t his is your goal.
Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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I have never had hair analysis done, but I have had a lot of other tests done, such as blood and urine tests for things like toxic metals, hormones, IgG food testing, etc.  I found the results very instructive.  It can be expensive, but it can also be expensive to buy supplements based on the hunch of a practitioner rather than based on the individual testing.

As to your question about foods to avoid should your test results contradict your SWAMI diamonds, I did run into this situation with a few foods.  Sardines, for instance were considered a diamond for me on my SWAMI but my IgG food testing showed that I was allergic to them, so I simply stopped eating them.  Most of the other foods on my SWAMI were fine.  I also had a few herbs and spices that conflicted, so I cut those out as well.  There was plenty left over for me to eat.

Remember, we are all individuals and variations are common, so follow common sense, use good judgement and you should be ok.


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Hair analysis isn't done at the clinic in Bridgeport.....  They do bioimpedence testing which measures phase angle....I've had no other tests performed there.

I had hair analysis done about 30 years ago....it showed minerals and heavy metals.  I still have a copy of it. Just don't know how reliable or accurate it is or ever was.

Had a urine challenge test to measure heavy metals and blood work to determine mineral and amino acid balance by a nutritionist 20 years ago...but of course, the guy did chelation in his practice (a major money maker for him) for which he could use my testing results as proof that I required many thousands of dollars worth of chelation treatment.  Had the tests, not the treatment.

Not sure what I feel about hair analysis.  And not sure what it would mean to eliminate a food on a list that
Dr. D doesn't sanction.  I can only believe in one system....and although I have a local nutritionist who can
test me for nutrient deficiencies....and she's certified by Dr. D, she doesn't run her practice the way he runs his. She uses SWAMI but she uses more of the BTD and food combining. She sells her own nutritional supplements with her own label.  She sells many products and devices for healing.  In the end, she's making
a living in her practice using her own specific testing modalities and Dr. D is simply using his expertise and
genius SWAMI settings to give me the best diet for my health.  He's a professor and using his time to share
his knowledge....so in the end you have to decide what is the healing system you believe in most.  Sometimes things we can get from other healers are complimentary to our diets....but if they're not....you have the final
say if you'd choose to eliminate a beneficial food for the sake of someone else's protocols and testing methods..

I've been there and done that with getting myself confused over the protocols other healers use in their practice. If I believe everyone's story, I can't fully focus on my diet and healing protocols from Dr. D.

If you want to detox and believe your hair sample is going to show high toxicity, buy an infared sauna on
Amazon....Under $200....set it up in anywhere in your house....it's portable...plug it in....and sweat.  Toxins
will exit your body in your sweat.  Save your money on testing....invest in a sauna.  Just my opinion!  


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If you want to detox and believe your hair sample is going to show high toxicity, buy an infared sauna on
Amazon....Under $200....set it up in anywhere in your house....it's portable...plug it in....and sweat.  Toxins
will exit your body in your sweat.  Save your money on testing....invest in a sauna.  Just my opinion!  


Or do like me, get outside and SWEAT! I have been pouring it this week! It is hot out there, I tell you! You can't beat free! I have to eat watermelon every day to keep my electrolytes from going through the floor.


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Spring,
Yes, go outside ( and in the gym ) and sweat!!!! That is exactly what i am trying to do more of also!

Good advice, Chloe!

I only had the Ige blood/food tolerance test done by an IFHI ND and it matched pretty well with my Genotype diet at the time. Now, with swami, it is on the target with cow dairy, wheat, and yeast being my worst foods!!!!


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HUGE THANK YOU to all who answered.  Very helpful information from all.  

I think I will save the hair test money for my monthly massages because I know for sure how much good those do for me!  

"My" homeopathic practitioner and I do not always see eye to eye. - Mainly because she says she "doesn't believe" in the BTD. But after I explained to her how SWAMI works and told her about my new food lists she admitted that my SWAMI food list is "much closer" to what she would recommend for me.  

I absolutely believe that the BTD saved my life when I was truly dying and no way will I be side tracked by anything that noticeably veers away from it.  I do use the homeopathic practitioner for help with specific things and she has been helpful.  I think she is as good and as honest as they come.  

AGAIN - thanks, folks for your posts!  


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Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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ginny, I think you made a wise decision....and I'm glad you will do what makes you feel good.  A monthly massage sounds perfect!  Enjoy!  


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ginny, I think you made a wise decision....and I'm glad you will do what makes you feel good.  A monthly massage sounds perfect!  Enjoy!  


Thanks Chloe!


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Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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I think it is important to be careful about being quick to judge the motivations of different health care practitioners.  I had my first round of heavy metals testing done by Dr. D's associate, Dr. Nash, in CT at the private clinic and she wanted to do the chelation therapy with me.  Ultimately I decided to have it done by an MD who specialized in chelation therapy and is on the board at Tufts University for functional medicine.  My only reason for going with the MD instead of Dr. Nash is that the MD was about 20 minutes from my house whereas Dr. Nash was over 2 hours from my house.  I did not do it as a way for either of those practitioners to make money . . . it seemed like a logical next step given my high level of metals toxicity.

If you trust the person you are seeing, they seem highly informed about your specific issues and their advice makes sense, then I would not hesitate to see someone outside of Dr. D's sphere.  Those of us who are fortunate enough to live in the Northeast certainly have that as an option, but many do not and need to find the best available care in their area.

Interestingly enough, I did go on Dr. D's website to see if I could find a local practitioner.  Unfortunately the only person I found was more of a life/fitness coach, which would not have been an appropriate match for my needs.


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If you trust the person you are seeing, they seem highly informed about your specific issues and their advice makes sense, then I would not hesitate to see someone outside of Dr. D's sphere.  

Interestingly enough, I did go on Dr. D's website to see if I could find a local practitioner.  Unfortunately the only person I found was more of a life/fitness coach, which would not have been an appropriate match for my needs.


FOR SURE!  The "local practitioner" in my area is a person I know very well and he has veered SO FAR away from real BTD facts that no way would I recommend him to anyone for anything.   Unfortunately he is still listed, so other people are finding him and not knowing that half of what he says is just plain wrong.  

It all boils down to reading Dr. D's books VERY THOROUGHLY and learning all you can and learning how to tell the difference between "truth and fiction".  And that can be a real challenge.  



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Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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monthly massage sound wonderful, am still very pleased I did the hair analysis; without it, I would not have taken the extra steps or even understand what was happening internally or how to improve it.
Blood tests by dr, or any other test would not reveal what the hair analysis did; without it, I am pretty sure, cancer or diabetes or other disease would be very possible, my gut feeling. the cost was low compared to costs when someone becomes very ill or needs surgery later on in life.
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I've heard good things about hair analysis for minerals. This thread is the first I've ever heard of hair analysis for food allergen/ ideal diet advice.

It's important to have the hair analysis results analyzed  by somebody who knows how to interpret the results (and this person doesn't HAVE TO be the medical professional who ordered the tests.) Hair minerals will show what the body is excreting, not what's in them. Sometimes minerals are high because you have a lot of them in your body. Other times the mineral is high because you're excreting it into the hair at a high rate and very little is staying in your body. A good practitioner will compare the results of the different metals to one another, looking for patterns. It's often helpful to have blood tests for some of the same minerals to have reference points to interpret the hair results more accurately.

It's a complex interpretation and not all medical professionals are good at it. You can't get good results from the test if it's not interpreted well.


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Here's the basic issue I had trying to get insurance coverage for heavy metal removal.  I had to prove that I got contaminated while working somewhere that exposed me to metals....and I didn't.  This had to go through workman's compensation. My first test for heavy metals was a hair analysis..high
mercury, cadmium, and arsenic. Arsenic is in chicken feed, I ate a lot of fish, I played with the mercury from broken fever thermometers when I was a child....I mean, who knew mercury was harmful.  Dentists filled my mouth with mercury....and so at the age of 28, a chiropractor who was into natural healing did a hair test.....It came back off the charts.  Then when I saw a Lyme literate MD, he sent me for a urine challenge test for heavy metals....did blood work.  Again, off the charts.  But to actually do the chelation was upwards of  $8,000 and that was a discounted price IF I paid in advance.  Two options, chelation with DMPS (which I researched and there are a lot of issues that didn't feel right to me)....and EDTA.

I did neither and I did neither because I believe that most of my problems are coming from my
teeth....I am in the process of getting my mercury fillings removed and replaced with composite.

I also eat very little fish these days and would stay away from swordfish and any species known to
grow huge.  I rarely eat tuna and stick with tiny fish like sardines....wild salmon.

Once the mercury is completely gone from my mouth, sweating out what's left in my body and getting massages will be helpful.

We're probably all toxic to a great degree and even if chelation is done, what is to prevent further
contamination?  Eat no fish?

Mercury from our water, thermometers, thermostats and teeth amalgams
Lead from pipes, drains and smoldering materials
Arsenic is released into the environment in the making of chemicals and glasses, and by the smelting process of copper, zinc and lead
Countless more heavy metals enter your body via exposure to pesticides, batteries, steel, alloys, dyes, and steel.

It's not like doing chelation cleans us out and keeps us clean.  This is why I never did chelation and
never will.

This is why I'm using diatomaceous earth.  It helps to pull heavy metals out of the body

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Good comments above about this test, I agree it helps to get someone experienced with hair analysis.  Best to be cautious, as different people will interpret differently and recommend different diets/foods, sometimes the one which works for them or their family/friends. Or to sell costly supplements(which some don't respond to or even need).
I will come back and re-read this thread again.
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