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ginnyTN
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In chosing a more detailed avatar I was confused.  What does A1 mean?  What does A2 mean?  

I have both the ER and the Live Right books but can't find the information in them.  It isn't a matter of life and death, but I'd like to have the correct information posted if possible.

Thanks to anyone who can help answer my question!


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The A1 indicates that you have had a blood test that identified your A subgroup.


A1 is the most common subgroup of A.  But A2 and A3 are also possible.



You will note in the Live Right diet alterations for people that are A2. These are commonly seen in the portion frequency tables in that book.


The subgroups are explained here.


http://www.dadamo.com/science_bloodgroups_typing_technique.htm


Generally the alterations in diet for A subgroups is so slight that it is not worth paying for the test (and finding someone to do the test), unless you are having specific health concerns that need to be addressed.


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C_sharp:

Thanks for the link......Phew.....It will take a few readings for me to digest that article, or at least to partly digest it.  

So, since I have not had the test I had to change my avatar setting back to A non since I can't find anywhere on the extensive list of choices that says A+ non without the 1 or 2 designation attached.

Practically all of the A's are listed as A1 + or - a few A2 + or -.....is this because everyone here has actually had the test, or because those are the only options if you want to show your Rh status?  

Not that it actually matters because we are not filling out a medical form - it's just information for a help forUm, right?  


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I have been tested (by a school that no longer does the testing) for A subgroups.

Some of the other As have been tested, but most have not.

I wish that I had privilege to write to the directory with the avatars to add the missing avatars. Perhaps, someday I will get around to asking.

In the mean time, here are instructions for adding a comment line beneath the avatar to specify your Rh value:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/#num1


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I only know my subtype because when I first saw Dr. D way back in the late 1980s, when he was
a young ND with his first practice in CT he did this testing.  The status
of A2 blood is determined because your blood reacts to a particular reagent. Yet I'm not sure it totally rules out that you're not A3 or another subtype.  I think it merely lets you know you're not
A1..

And presently at the clinic in Bridgeport, although secretor status is tested, I don't think A
variant subtypes would be determined.  For years I followed he BTD without much variation
from the A1 diet... Maybe I ate a bit more fish.  But once I switched to a
genotype diet, a hint to confirm my Teacher's status was to know that I was A2 as more Teachers are likely to be A2 than Warriors.

I believe A2s inherited this subtype from brown eyed Laplanders and I remember reading about
A2s being Vikings. It probably implies thriving on foods of seafaring people.

Once I had a professional SWAMI done, I learned that the chances of two people having the same SWAMI diet are one in something like 12 million.  With knowledge of blood type and secretor status, you really have mostly all you need to know to be able to follow a highly personalized diet!


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Do a search for "dolichos biflora" -- it's the reagent used to separate the 2's from the 1's.
it's A1 that reacts to it... and A2 does not.


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if I remember it well there must be a little o in our downlines...*grandma's revenge ...*  and I checked the differences between A1 and A2... we, the A2 are better in fats accomodations... (digestion )

btw.. my last bt-test was in 1978 in France ....


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Amazone,
So if my Mom is an Ao and so am I because my Dad is an O-..... there is a good possibility that I may be A2?
Funny, I seem to want more fats/oils than I am allowed but my stomach really only tolerates a little ghee, butter, olive oil, and small amounts of nut butters at a time.
I am going to research what Lola posted, also.


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Quoted from cajun
there is a good possibility that I may be A2?


You are the same subtype as your mother. There is a possibility that you are A2, but most As are A1.


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yep cajun..you might be right in your suggestion but I'm not sure if both parent's should carry that little o at their ends ... to get knitted an A2...


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My DBA search didn't tell me how I could make a guess at being A1 or A2. I might pursue a Lab to try and find an answer.
Thanks C sharp and Amazone!

I think I was just remembering something in LR4YT about A2's being the first to morph from O's...or is it the A3's? Then it would make sense that A2's could tolerate more meat, fats.  


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Hi Cajun, I sent a blood sample to Nature Cure in the UK where it was tested for A1/2, MN/NN/MM & lewis.  I love getting more pieces of the puzzle together
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You are the same subtype as your mother. There is a possibility that you are A2, but most As are A1.


Dies this mean if I'm an A2, my type A children are A2 too?  And does this mean that one of my
parents was an A2?



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Dies this mean if I'm an A2, my type A children are A2 too?  And does this mean that one of my
parents was an A2?



If your spouse is an O and you are AO, then your children have the same A subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an A child that child will have the same subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an AB child that child will have the same A subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an O child that child will not an A subtype.

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an O child that child will not an A subtype.

If you are A2 and you have an A2 spouse the child will be A2.

If you are AO and spouse is A1 you cannot tell what the child will be without more information.

A2 is recessive to A1       ----     standard rules of genetics apply.


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Interesting C-sharp, what if I am AA & husband is O, my sons are both A's does this make them A1?  oh and are they both Ao or can they be AA?
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Interesting C-sharp, what if I am AA & husband is O, my sons are both A's does this make them A1?


If you are A2 your children will be A2  (Assuming A3 is not possible or at least not measured for)

If you are A1 you need to check the children to know A subtype.

  
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oh and are they both Ao or can they be AA?


If husband is O and Children are A they must be AO.


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If your spouse is an O and you are AO, then your children have the same A subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an A child that child will have the same subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an AB child that child will have the same A subtype as you (Whether that is (A1 or A2)

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an O child that child will not an A subtype.

If your spouse is a B and you are AO, and you have an O child that child will not an A subtype.

If you are A2 and you have an A2 spouse the child will be A2.

If you are AO and spouse is A1 you cannot tell what the child will be without more information.

A2 is recessive to A1       ----     standard rules of genetics apply.


I'm A2, my spouse is A1 (his mother was O, his father A)....so, .I'm assuming my type A children could be either, right?


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I'm A2, my spouse is A1 (his mother was O, his father A)....so, .I'm assuming my type A children could be either, right?

Correct.


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nope I'm not the same as my mum.. I'm an AB Rh + and she's a B Rh -.... flöt..flöt...but assumptions of being  similar as our mothers...aren't of any validity ...
and sorry C_sharp must correct ya ... my elder sis is an A1B Rh+ und me as..shown


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sorry C_sharp must correct ya ... my elder sis is an A1B Rh+ und me as..shown


Could you be a little clearer on where my error is?
I do not see it but I would like to correct anything that I misstated. But I have to know where the error is at to correct it.


Thank you.



The information I presented above would indicate that siblings could be A1B and A2B. That is perfectly compatible with what I stated above.




To restate more specifically to the AB child situation.

What one really needs to know is the parents.

Essentially:

Information from a single child is not sufficient to determine the blood type of siblings.

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If we have B mother with an AB child, we know the Father is either: A1O,  A2O,  A1A1,  A2A2 or A1A2

An A1O father would have A1B children (or A1O or B or O children)
An A2O father would have A2B children (or A2O or B or O children)
An A1A1 father would have A1B children (or A1O children)
An A2A2 father would have A2B children (or A2O children)
An A1A2 father would have either A1B or A2B children (or A1O or A2O children)


An A1 father can be A1O,   A1A1  or A1A2


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I think it is in the sentence: if your spouse is a B and you're an Ao your child is AB will have the same A subtype.... ok here was MY fault to have  misinterpreted ... that we have to be similar as our mother.... but this is obviously not possible as being only a B ...sorry it was my error in not having read it correctly.... .... I apologize.... and will stick this thread for better understandings in futur    btw. thanx for the enlightment  I need to repeate this thema....


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Serenity,
How did you find this Lab in the UK and is it possible for me to do that?(Given how difficult it is getting anything accomplished regarding health care in this country.)

Until I can be tested for sure I will assume I am A1...going with the odds...just as I did with secretor status...somehow, I just knew I was a secretor.


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How did you find this Lab in the UK and is it possible for me to do that?(Given how difficult it is getting anything accomplished regarding health care in this country.)


A1  /  A2   test for UK

http://right4eu.sageshops.co.uk/gbp/product_info.php?cPath=20&products_id=98


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Cajun, I actually just did an internet search hoping to find one here. Nature Cure were great, results were fast!
The courier charges were high (australia post) but i figured it is a once off...
http://www.greenfieldsclinic.co.uk/practitioners/tom-greenfield
(the clinic has since changed names from nature cure)
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Thanks C_ sharp!
Thanks Serenity! Did you call that number or do a skin prick sample and mail from online?


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