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passionprincess
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A lot of it is nature but there is also nurture.

My parents AB mom and O hunter dad can be seen as high strung but in the Korean culture, they are not seen that way. Many Koreans are known for being high strung and having short-tempers. I lived with my parents until I moved away to college and have had times where I would live with them for months at a time before moving out. They rarely fight. Both parents never hold grudges and always talk things out within 30 minutes of an argument. I could be blessed with parents who love to communicate and want to have a healthy marriage.

My sisters and I were raised in this sort of environment. Although our parents were seen as authoritarian "dictators" during our high school years , they gave us more freedom and started to respect us. These days, we have more of a friendship than anything else since my baby sister is 30.

Both my sister and I (the Bs... I suspect she is a teacher) and I have grown more even-tempered with age. My sister is more stubborn while I am just aggressive. I know when I am fighting a losing battle and known when to retreat.

As for my A sister, though... she will hold grudges. When we get into stupid tiffs, she will bring up an incident involving a sweater from when we were 10 years old! I am so serious. One day, my parents had to misfortune of overhearing the argument and got sucked into it. Mom and Dad could not even remember the sweater and claimed that my sister was making herself into a victim. Let's say the issue still has not been resolved and my sister is resentful about that issue.

I tried to get my sister on the diet but she is very sensitive about diets. I can't even bring it up. I walk egg shells around her. She blows up easily and holds grudges.


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As and Os are a good combination, even if we do drive each other nuts sometimes!

I do find As to be very loyal.

My husband and I don't yell or even argue (much).  My extroverted O sister and her extroverted A husband seem to require arguments, just to spice up life.

I am one who can punch or kick a wall, but never when anybody is watching or can be affected by it.  

Bs have a special place in my heart as well.  My mom is a B, as are many siblings, and I find their connection to family and nature to be very refreshing, as well as their gentle non-conformism.

Sorry, I don't know any ABs other than those I met on this board...or I'd have more to say.


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Oh yeah - As are die hard loyals! I know my sister does not get along with the family right now due to certain issues but she will stick with friends even when they are treating her badly. Unfortunately, she is too loyal to the point where it is difficult for her to cut off abusive friends!

Both of my parents O and AB are very extroverted. They LOVE having company over. I moved back home because I am in transition between grad programs and when I lived with them during my first master's, I had to find a place to study because they would have company hanging out drinking and singing karaoke into the wee hours of the night!

I am quite social but I need my alone time or I go crazy. I guess that is the thing about being a B.

Dad is semi-retired right now mainly due to health reasons but he keeps himself busy with his hobbies. He plays the trumpet and when he is really upset or something, he will retreat to his office and play. I think he is getting aerobic exercise that way... giving his lungs a workout. Other than that, he is super social and has friends/company over very often.

As far as hobbies and interest go, I am definitely my dad's daughter. So, in my family, it is a O and B combo. Mom AB and A sister get along better in terms of being shopping buddies, etc. Mom and I are more like sisters now that I am older but her interests are similar to my A sister's.

Quoted from Melissa_J
As and Os are a good combination, even if we do drive each other nuts sometimes!

I do find As to be very loyal.

My husband and I don't yell or even argue (much).  My extroverted O sister and her extroverted A husband seem to require arguments, just to spice up life.

I am one who can punch or kick a wall, but never when anybody is watching or can be affected by it.  

Bs have a special place in my heart as well.  My mom is a B, as are many siblings, and I find their connection to family and nature to be very refreshing, as well as their gentle non-conformism.

Sorry, I don't know any ABs other than those I met on this board...or I'd have more to say.




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I think any type can maladapt to stress by holding grudges, refusing to admit wrongdoing, or mistreating others in many ways.  I don't think any blood type is immune to such things, and I'm sure all blood types are represented in different personality disorders.

How we can best manage our own neurotransmitter dilemmas, that's where BTD comes in handy.  As with anything, we have to choose who and how we want to be, and use BT guidelines to work toward it.  A weakness can become a strength, if we are honest with ourselves and willing to work at it.  I'm sure there is a lot of variation in behavior among the different types.  I know what my tendencies are, but I also know how to deal with them in a constructive way.  


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Most definitely! Too bad this is not Facebook. I would have clicked the "like" button.

Quoted from Melissa_J
I think any type can maladapt to stress by holding grudges, refusing to admit wrongdoing, or mistreating others in many ways.  I don't think any blood type is immune to such things, and I'm sure all blood types are represented in different personality disorders.

How we can best manage our own neurotransmitter dilemmas, that's where BTD comes in handy.  As with anything, we have to choose who and how we want to be, and use BT guidelines to work toward it.  A weakness can become a strength, if we are honest with ourselves and willing to work at it.  I'm sure there is a lot of variation in behavior among the different types.  I know what my tendencies are, but I also know how to deal with them in a constructive way.  




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I think loyalty when decieved is a hard felt thing going inward..

on the other hand when one does not respond to some hurt then the hurting continues from others or one self..

I think PRACITCING tolerance is the only option, at least for me, or I hurt me with my own circular thinking.  I am grateful for every kind word I ever heard from any place.. they allow me to stay calm ..

but not yesterday .. yesterday someone made a anti someone remark and I could not control the intensity with which I tried to explain..

I know I will do research and show the person just what was wrong.. even though most opinionated persons ever see any other side.. but I will try to document and show in neutral ways what is the real answer..

I hate injustice and I react to it.. I wish I could be a better person, but sometimes it's hard.. my mind sets off in directions I REALLY do not wish to go.. and my mouth follows..  I embarrass me and feel sorry for the other, as basically i know that their life is theirs and not for me to judge.. ..

aoh aoh aoh    


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Anger is also a signal that the liver/gallbladder is congested. About 95% of Americans.  

Myself included. Working on it....


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Quoted from passionprincess
Most definitely! Too bad this is not Facebook. I would have clicked the "like" button.


Amen!!


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I just found out that the local store is closing its dorrs to be absorbed by a large corp.. I am sooooo dissapointed sooooo upset I have no words.I feel for the future of all kids who will not get local jobs for nothing othe rthe n walmart mega stores..

I am so upset that I could get  STROCKE.. I have no idea how to not scream as loud as i can and scra the bears in their den.. I am upset,, I have no outlet but just F.... en not to care...

so the serenty prayer.. but i mean what is the world coming to if we can not care..

I am madder then hell .. as far as i am concernd the world deserves to get blown up and restarted from scratch..  

Then my friend who had insurance by our state for her prescription now can not even get a reduction until she is in some kind of doughnut hole.. whatever that is .. I mean what is she supposed to do, when she has hardly enough money to buy oatmeal for 2 meals a day.. what will be when all the other cuts are made..

I feel .. I wish I was a bast...d and would not care.. be like the insides of big companies.. selfish and greedy.. I wish I could just walk away, but I don;t know how,..

so sorry to vent here.. but I hope you don't mind..  


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The more I read about "typical blood type personalities" the less I think there is any correlation. Or, at least, that there are an incredible number of exceptions.

Somebody wondered if Hunters tend to "blow up" more than other O GTs... well, I'm a Gatherer, and I suspect DD2 is an Explorer (finger lenths suggest Hunter or Explorer, but she's way too curvy to be a Hunter- is there such thing as a D cup Hunter?) but she's a "mini me" when it comes to personality. DD1 I'd measured out to be Gatherer but SWAMI says Explorer, and she's the "most A-like personality" of us all.

Quoted from ]Melissa_J
Os have a much longer fuse, but a bigger destructive force.  Os certainly can harbor resentments, as can anyone.  Once an O gets upset, it can be very hard to calm down and get under control.  I've found a punching bag and a pair of running shoes to be a necessity. Exercise can be calming and therapeutic for As, but healing for Os.  Os have a capacity to remain calm and calculating in the face of danger, yet take hours or even days to calm back down.  If I get stressed before breakfast and a shower, my day is shot (can only be undone with exercise followed by meditation or a nap).  Os can also endure long periods of stress with apparent patience, only to fall apart when it is over.  As endure, but once the stress is over, they are normal and happy, not too shaken and exhausted to celebrate.

Genotype difference probably figure in greatly, at least for Os, and between introverts and extroverts, so I speak as an introvert.  Extrovert Os tend to express themselves more often and tend to be more "sparky".  Introverts internalize things and let stresses build up.  I am also a hunter, so adrenal exhaustion can be an issue, as it can be for As.
I'm an introvert but I express myself and am very "sparky." I have a VERY short fuse when I'm overwhelmed, and I get overwhelmed easily when I don't get enough alone time. I can enjoy being with people, but I find it draining. That makes me an Introvert, yet I don't   have a problem expressing myself around family. I have a hard time keeping myself from "blowing up" when I'm having a bad day.

Like I said, the more I read about personality traits being linked to blood type or genotype, the less stock I put into any of it. That or my family are all exceptions.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Your d cup hunter daughter sounds a lot like me. . I am a nomad who is supposed to be more sinewy and lean. I am sinewy and lean all over except for my boobs. I realize that I have double d cups as a result of estrogen dominance. I started using progesterone cream and I think my boobs shrank a tad bit - very full d cups... or maybe it is my imagination in thinking my boobs shrank a bit. When people see me from behind, they think I am petite and "small" (tiny, too... rolling my eyes... so sick of the tiny, small, etc. comments!). However, when they see me from the front, they wonder where the boobs came from. I tend to slouch because my bras never fit right and the straps pull into my body. It sucks to try and buy dresses since I need to get the waistline altered Suits - tops are always 1-2 sizes bigger than the bottoms. I wear minimizer bras or very loose tops when teaching because people do not take boobs seriously in academia.  

As for your short fuse, Ruthie, it could be both nature and nurture. My "typical" blood type personality did not start manifesting until later on. My parents are high strung and I also had other incidents in life that contributed to my formerly crazy high strung short fuse personality.

Who knows what the REAL answer is - we are having fun speculating and seeing whether we fit into the categories or not.



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The more I read about "typical blood type personalities" the less I think there is any correlation. Or, at least, that there are an incredible number of exceptions.

Somebody wondered if Hunters tend to "blow up" more than other O GTs... well, I'm a Gatherer, and I suspect DD2 is an Explorer (finger lenths suggest Hunter or Explorer, but she's way too curvy to be a Hunter- is there such thing as a D cup Hunter?) but she's a "mini me" when it comes to personality. DD1 I'd measured out to be Gatherer but SWAMI says Explorer, and she's the "most A-like personality" of us all.

I'm an introvert but I express myself and am very "sparky." I have a VERY short fuse when I'm overwhelmed, and I get overwhelmed easily when I don't get enough alone time. I can enjoy being with people, but I find it draining. That makes me an Introvert, yet I don't   have a problem expressing myself around family. I have a hard time keeping myself from "blowing up" when I'm having a bad day.

Like I said, the more I read about personality traits being linked to blood type or genotype, the less stock I put into any of it. That or my family are all exceptions.




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I don't blow up....if I'm overwhelmed, I get nervous and crabby - my kids would tell you that....but I don't have big blowups.  In fact, I hate being confrontational, almost to the point where I could benefit from being more confrontational at times.  I used to have people tell me I need to be more assertive.  I think I've gotten better at that.  I'm not a pushover though.  I just don't like confrontations.

My A sons can both get angry and show their anger much more than I do.  My younger son makes jokes about coming over to visit so we can yell at each other...but it's never about anything serious.  

I'm not sure it's blood type related.  I think it has more to do with how you were raised and what you've encountered throughout your life.
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Anger is also a signal that the liver/gallbladder is congested. About 95% of Americans.  

Myself included. Working on it....


Yes this is what they say in TCM (chinese medicine).  Have you thought about doing a liver cleanse?  I'm thinking of doing one.  Exercise is good for the lungs which helps clear congestion from the liver- another reason it is important for Os.

I did a liver cleanse in the 90s, was kind of scary but I did pass gallstones.

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When i eat wrong for too long and do not exercise well, i have a short fuse and take a long time to cool off.  I have had cops called on me for the noise coming from rage episodes in the past, have destroyed property, and basically looked like an F'ing psycho!!!  

I am easy going naturally and very nice, which is why it scared others so much.  I did not want to really hurt anyone, just had a lot of energy inside needing to come out.  
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The A sort, however, usually represents the venting of a very longstanding resentment. The A person will surprise the unsuspecting, because s/he is normally not irritible or flexing for a fight. It seems to come out of the blue and level everything in its path, like a tornado, which can last for HOURS. What's more, the resentment CONTINUES AFTER THE RAGE IS SPENT.
Whereas the O's delivery might be just as destructive as the A's, it is quick and habitual, and is often followed by shame and intense remorse; people who know the O develop means/methods of traversing those minutes / dealing with the periodic storm, knowing the O will apologize and, sigh, lamely promise not to do it again, if pressed. The victim might see flowers, jewelry, etc. eventuate from these tempests.


This is very true for me , however i have lost friends/boyfriend because i normally am very nice and people pleasing, letting the annoyance bubble under the surface and one day, possibly two years after we have met(it can take that long) i SNAP! I think they think I have lost the plot , changed from the person they knew and become a nutcase.
My friend who is an O is always snappy and is known for being a bit agro so people just know that thats the way she is and those around her accept her that way.
Ive also been thought to be naive because I don't like to argue my point, not because I don't have opinions , just because I don't like to argue it gets me so stressed I end up crying or going crazy like "Leave me alooonnne!"
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This thread, O and Anger, is really about the O's tendency, attested to by Dr. D'Adamo, to notable anger management problems where the exercise type and level and even perhaps timing are insufficient or not well matched with the individual's needs.

I didn't mean to stereotype personalities based on blood type, even where I posted to differentiate the sort of "uncharacteristic" rage you sometimes see from certain A's.

I'm very much interested in how O's successfully are dealing with the Anger Problem they face and was hoping you could all trade stories and perhaps help each other while we all learn from you.  


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I do much better emotionally when I stay with my 'ER4YT' diet.
I feel it is so necessary that I do my areobic walk or some type of exercise daily.  
My homeopathic doctor prescribed Jyrus – Hegsii Research Labs, a natural suplement which has calming effects. I only take this once in awhile.
I use natural hormone replacement twice daily.
I tried something interesting on a single web sight. I put a photo on there of a meal of what I had fixed for type O and sent that photo of food to several male singles on that site. Several responded that they couldn't eat that meal and those that could were blood type Os. Sort of a sneaky way to find out if they are compatible. If I ever got married again I wouldn't want to be married to anyone other than a blood type O. And of course his numerolgy numbers would have to be compatible also.
I have discovered another element which influences my mood, Numerology. My best days are those with a 1, 5, 7 since I am a Life Path 1. For instance today is 3/8/12 (8 can go either way as far as being compatible). 3/9/12 (9 compatible). 3/10/12 (10 compatible). 3/6/12 wasn't a very good day for me emotionally. But happy as a lark 3/7/12. 2,4,6 seems to be toxic #s for Life Path 1s. I try to plan important appointments and events on compatible days.
Take it or leave it, what is good for one is poison to another.
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Yes this is what they say in TCM (chinese medicine).  Have you thought about doing a liver cleanse?  I'm thinking of doing one.  Exercise is good for the lungs which helps clear congestion from the liver- another reason it is important for Os.

I did a liver cleanse in the 90s, was kind of scary but I did pass gallstones.



http://www.amazon.com/The-Live.....331227833&sr=1-2

Plan to do this as long as it agrees with my body (or some form of it as there are a few variations) about monthly until I get an all clear for 2 months. Check out the reviews. Also some pretty amazing testimonials in the book/website. I think the author is a little flaky on his website, but whatever works (he didn't invent the process).


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I think rage and anger come from impeded liver functioning when it is chronic, when someone is snappy and then remorseful, or has a short fuse and takes a long time to clear the heat physically, not a mental thing.  

These emotions also can inhibit functioning of the liver, since the chemicals have to be processed by the liver.
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darn it i typed a reply and cancelled it.. so here again:  

I feel better after my 2 days of being UPSET.. somehow after two hours sleep this evening I feel CALM ... yes we used to say :  someone or something crawled over 'her' liver.. when the person acted out.

MY possible fix .. I took three portions of Trehaloosa powder over 2 days..
.. The power of suggestion.. in the speech below, he mentions Trehaloosa might fix a persons brain within three days.. and maybe it fixed my liver?!

I TAKE that!

http://www.amazon.com/Infrared.....331180759&sr=8-1    


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I think this is a good example of what san j was describing, courtesy of samuel l jackson (last section of the clip)!  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uETsBvisKAA
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I workout and then feel better immediately. Plus, lo carb works for me in general. I noticed I get irritable and have anger management issues when I am not eating enough protein, or enough food in general.

just my two cents
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I have never had an issue with chronic anger. I did notice over a period of years of eating a lot of cheese, wheat and dairy that it led to sinus congestion, lung congestion, intestinal congestion and constipation.

A few times after realizing I had made some-kind of emotionally angry outburst... I also realized that my colon was congested, I hadn't had a bowel movement in the past 24 hours, and I was constipated. After a good BM. I felt a lot better.

I also used to do a lot of aerobic activity like riding my bike a long distance, running 4-5 miles, or walking up and down a mountain. I found all these activities increased intestinal function... to my great satisfaction.

In instances when I was angry, frustrated or at wits end, I have found that all the above activities to be refreshing, balancing and vitalizing.

Discontinuing the foods mentioned above has also reduced all the mentioned symptoms.


Thoughts Are Things... Think The Good Ones... and remember... Moderate exercise is the best mood elevator!
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