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Rachel D
Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 10:11pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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What is the likelihood of a type A having wheat intolerance and being a non-secretor?
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15 to 20% chance of being a nonsecretor.

Most nonsecretors will do less well with grains than secretors.



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Rachel D
Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 10:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I take it you are one of them?
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Teachers do less well with wheat than warriors.

The only forms of wheat that rate well for teachers in the GenoType diet are variant (emmer, spelt, kamut, ...).




On SWAMI:

To know if a nonsecretor status would affect your rating for wheat->simply set the entry for secretor status to nonsecretor. Run SWAMI at this setting and see what your ratings for wheat are.

I have my SWAMI set for nonsecretor status (my results might differ from yours),
but these forms of wheat are avoids:

Wheat, Bran, Germ
Wheat, Bulgur
Wheat, Durum, Semolina, Couscous
Wheat, Puffed
Wheat, Sprouted (Black dot)
Wheat, White Flour, Gluten
Wheat, Whole Grain
Wheat, Whole Grain Emmer

These are neutral:
Wheat, Whole Grain Kamut
Wheat, Whole Grain Spelt

I do better if I avoid Kamut and Spelt also. I do okay with sprouted wheat.


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I take it you are one of them?


Nonsecretor status confirmed with blood test and DNA test.

Experience does demonstrate I do better without wheat.


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What is the likelihood of a type A having wheat intolerance and being a non-secretor?

This may also be affected by how much other lectin damage you have in your digestive system...  As this heals, you may or may not see an improvement in tolerance for wheat...


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Rachel D
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csharp it does change from neutral to avoids if I change my swami to nonnie.

ABjoe I didn't know that thanks
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If you are suspecting that you have a wheat or gluten intolerance, it can be a great idea to exclude it from your diet, at least until you find out your blood type for sure, as well as your secretor status.  



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Plus, Celiac Disease is common among all blood and secretor types. Somebody could be an A Secretor Warrior but still have Celiac Disease and not  be able to eat wheat. There are many, many variables in figuring out which foods you can or can't tolerate. SWAMI takes many of them into account,  but it's still not perfect. Sometimes the SWAMI diet needs to be tweaked a little.

If you suspect wheat is a problem, take it out of your diet and see if you feel better. Nobody is going to be hurt by this (though it can be inconvenient.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Rachel D
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Rice and oats do not have gluten in them right? Since starting this I have gained a love of rice (cooking right now). What about spelt flour? Gluten free?
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Spelt flour has gluten,  but is still well toelrated by many people with wheat intolerance. It's not OK for those with celiac disease. The same is true for rye and barley- not gluten free, but not wheat either.

Oats are a complicated one. Oats themselves don't contain gluten, but they do contain a similar protein that many gluten-free people can't tolerate either. Also, oats are frequently contaminated with wheat in growing and processing. Depending on level of sensitivity, some people can only  tolerate gluten-free oats (oats carefully grown and processed to avoid wheat contamination) while others can tolerate regular oats just fine, even if they can't have wheat. And others can't tolerate the oats at all because of the oat protein itself.




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Oats are usually grown in the same fields as wheat, so are not "gluten free" they are also high in glutamate which can cause problems with sensitive people.

rice can actually cause problems and affect my daughter personality wildly.

spelt has gluten in it just less than wheat.

actually all grains have a form of gluten which is a protein. they have different names and different effects.

I have come across many A's with wheat issues and many of them are non secretors.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
DD ( is O+(Non)NN, Duffy Fy(a+b-) Lewis (a+b-) Gatherer
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Rachel,

Please remember that gluten isn't the only reason wheat is bad...  Wheat has the Wheat Germ Agglutinin lectin and a high gluten content.  Spelts gluten content is much lower, but may still be problem - depending on your sensitivity.


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Ok, that all makes sense, thank you guys!
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