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Hi everyone,

I was an avid Eat Right and Live right follower as a B Sec. and then followed up with tweaking as a Nomad for about 4 years, when I took about year off. I am now back (yay) and was catching up on what were my avoids. I used to avoid all wheat all together, but in the Type base it says that white wheat is neutral for Type B Sec while whole wheat is not. I tried to look up previous posts on this matter but I still am a bit confused and was wondering if anyone could clarify? Currently I have been eating spelt bread for the first time and I have found it very satisfying compared to wheat bread.

Thanks so much

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In Blood Type Diet, wheat is neutral for B secretors but an avoid for B non-secretors. I don't own a copy of Eat Right 4 Your Type, but I'm pretty sure that Dr D put wheat as an avoid for all Bs in that  book, as it's pretty harmful for the nonnies. That book was published before the secretor tests were readily available, so he combined the secretor and non-secretor diets based on what he felt were the most important attributes (how harmful to non-secretors vs how helpful to secretors, or vice versa.) The food values in Live Right are considered more accurate than the values in Eat Right.

The Eat Right books is wonderful for an introduction to the concepts of BTD eating, but the food lists in there aren't as accurate as the food lists in the more recent books.

The Genotype Diet is a separate system from blood type diet; blood type is one factor, not the only factor, in determining the diet to follow. It's hard to combine BTD and GTD on your own; you need to pick one to follow.

For Nomads, wheat is an absolute avoid, but spelt is a black dot (meaning it's neutral for some Nomads, but an avoid for others; the rule is to cut it out for 2 months then re-introduce it and see how it makes you feel.)

For B secretors, wheat is neutral and spelt is beneficial. For B non-secretors, wheat is an avoid and spelt is neutral.

No matter what, if you're a B, spelt is a better choice than wheat.

You need to decide if you want to follow BTD (type B diet) or GTD (Nomad diet.) If you're using one of the diets from a book, you need to just pick one and follow it, and not make yourself crazy worrying about trying to combine the two different systems on your own.

A third choice is to get a SWAMI, software where you enter the measurements used to determine genotype, plus some medical history, and it computes a diet just for you, combining BTD and GTD values. This is the "best" option, but also the most expensive. Not everybody needs a SWAMI; many do well on BTD or GTD right from the book. At $70, it's not a lot of money for what it is, but that's still more money than using the list in a book you already own.

Ruth, Single Mother to 22 yo  O- Leah , 20 yo O- Hannah, and  15 yo B+ Jack

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The biggest irritant in wheat for most people is Wheat Germ Agglutinin.

White flour has most of the bran and germ removed.

This reduces the presence of WGA and other irritants in the wheat.

Which makes the white flour better for some.

MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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Understand the food values on the web site relate to the BTD only.  They do not related to the GenoType Diet.  Consider BTD a single factor that determines what you should eat.  GTD considers many factors, more genes and it's target goal is to turn off bad genes and turn on good ones.

If you have a particular health issue you are trying to correct, you might want to consider investing in SWAMI =

Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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FYI...  White wheat is Neutral for B Secretor in both Eat Right and Live Right...  So this rating matches Typebase.

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Thanks for your input everyone

The reason why I sort of combined B Sec Blood type diet with the nomad diet is because I felt that they were very similar in terms of what I was eating. I definitely think that getting a SWAMI would be my best bet to see what it says!
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Seems like a lot of people benefit from eating whatever the SWAMI says is OK.  That might be something to look in to.
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At home I eat spelt bread & noodles.  When I’m out I’ll occasionally eat white bread never whole wheat, mixed grains or rye.

I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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