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sandooch
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I recently purchased the Eat Right 4 Your Type book off of amazon and have been doing my best to stay away from the avoid foods and choose the best foods possible for my blood type.  

But now that I've been on this forum for a bit, I've been reading that the Live Right 4 Your Type book is the revised edition of the first, which offers some changes in the foods I can and cannot eat.  Is this right?

My sister just ordered LR4YT and Cook Right 4 Your Type based on what I've told her about the books.  

Could someone give me more information about these 3 books?  Should I, too, get the LR4YT and just go by what this book says to do?

Oh, then there's this Geno diet book out there...and...well, color me confused!  I feel like I don't know what the Hell I'm doing now.  


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take it one day at a time, depending on your issues and grade of curiosity!

LRFYT is a great start, for it gives you the concept behind the basic science and also has the secretor differences in every food value

you can always ease into GTD if interested.......slow wins the race

some reading on the complexity of it all
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys


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Don't worry about GTD (genotype diet) for now. It's a completely different system of figuring out which foods each individual should eat. Blood type is taken into account, but it's not the only factor. Then there's SWAMI, software that calculates diets for each individual based on data you enter into it (your medical history plus the information needed to determine your genotype.) This  gives the most individualized food list, but it's not necessary for most people. Most people start out following one of the diets from a  book, and then move onto SWAMI only if they feel the need for more fine-tuning. A few people start out with SWAMI, but generally those individuals are facing serious health challenges.

If you hadn't made any dietary changes at all yet, I'd suggest you read books about both systems and then decide which one to follow. But since you've already started BTD, I suggest you stick with it for at least 2 months before making any other dietary changes. My advice is do not worry about Genotype Diet  or SWAMI right now!

Live Right is a refined version of Eat Right, and it's essentially the same system. You won't confuse yourself if you switch from one book to the other. The primary difference between the two books is the secretor variations. When Eat Right was published, there was no way to easily test people for secretor status, so it wasn't mentioned in the book. Dr D chose the food lists based on judgement calls about "this food is really, really toxic to non-secretors so I'll put it down as an avoid even though it's OK for secretors" and "this food is an avoid for non-secretors but fine for secretors, but it doesn't cause major problems, so I'll put down the secretor  value."

In Live Right, he lists food values for secretors and non-secretors separately, because the mail-in saliva tests for secretor status were available when that book was published. There also may have been some new food research done,  but the primary reason for the changes is because of being able to specify the secretor variations instead of having to create a  blended food list.

If you can afford it, getting a copy of Live Right is a good idea. If you can't afford to buy another book right now, you don't have to. You could just follow the list in the book you do own, or you can borrow a copy of Live Right (from your sister or the library) and mark up your copy of EAt Right with any changes you see in the later book. You can also go through the TypeBase on this website and mark any changes in the book you own.

If there are any discrepancies between either book and the food list on the website, go with the value on the website.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah (in Israel for the school year), 17yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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lr4yt & encyclopedia.....


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I found it interesting and useful to buy all the books, there are more than 3, the latest is the geno, but if i were you, i'd get used to eat right then get a secretor test and live right, once you are familiar with that get the geno book. then get swami.


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get some supplements too, specifically for you blood type, they will help you what blood type are you anyway?


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yap to the first things first.. this is a life time consultation about your health..

as you become familiar you will learn what to do, then as you become involved in the foods , then you move on and if little ones are to be planned for then there is a book for mom and dad..

in between we are here to set you on your course..

each book has most of the foods similar.. non is better then the other, just different in terms of intelligent info..

do you have issues to consider? what are they and what have you done about them already?

YOU ALREADY ACHIEVED more then most.. you got your sister to buy the book.. THAT IS BIG!!!

Welcome to both of you..  


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Quoted from sandooch

Oh, then there's this Geno diet book out there.


First is to realize that the GenoType and Blood type diet are two different systems.

I have a different perspective on the two systems than the other posters.

Do not try do both at the same time. Choose one or the other.

The GenoType diet does not have a prerequisite that you have done a period of indentured servitude in some other diet system. So if you want to follow the GenoType diet you get the GenoType book and ignore the other books since they are not relevant to the diet you are following.


The question needs to be what diet or book will best meet your health needs.

What you are trying to accomplish with a diet determines which book you should get (Have a baby?-> get the baby book, have diabetes?-> get the diabetes book, if your primary goal is dealing with allergies get the allergies book, ...).

To help you decide in general between the Blood Type Diet and the GenoType book, take the online quiz:

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2008/01/25/which-diet-system-is-best-for-you?blog=24



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I'd start with BTD, but there is a quiz to see which diet (BTD or GTD) is best for your needs

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

If you are going to stick with BTD then I'd suggest getting LR4YT as it is much more comprehensive than ER4YT



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Okay, I feel a little bit better now.  Even though the suggested quiz says I would be better suited for the Geno diet, I think I'm going to take the advice of others and stick to the ER4YT diet for now.  I'll check out my sister's books when she's done with them and see what changes have been made.  

If I feel after a couple of months that this diet is not working for me as I had hoped it would, I will consider switching to the Geno.

What I'm hoping to accomplish is weight loss (65 more pounds), gain some energy, prevent disease in the furture and possibly eleviate the chronic pain I've had on my left side of my body for the past 4-5 years (doctors cannot diagnose what is causing it).  


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Good responses!

If you decide to stick with the BTD for a while, I think it's important to get your secretor status tested so that you know you're following the right food list.  There are differences between secretor and non-secretor diets.  

Even if you switch to the Genotype diet, knowing your secretor status will give you some important perspectives on your own body.  Knowledge is power!  



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do you eat any chicken?


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Victoria, do I have to order a kit for that test?  

Policychecker, no, I'm not eating any chicken any more.  Nor am I eating any corn, wheat, black pepper or tomatoes.


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Good for you girl.


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Victoria, do I have to order a kit for that test?  



Yes, it is a saliva test that you can get here.  One of the best investments I ever made.  

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002



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Thanks for the link, Victoria.  And thank you everyone for all your help and advice.


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you can do it with a blood test too -  lewis test


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
you can do it with a blood test too -  lewis test


There's a chance the lewis test results won't reveal secretor status:

a+b- is nonsecretor
a-b+ is secretor
a-b- is rare (and I think often treated as nonsecretor) but can be either secretor or non


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Although, if you have an easy way to get Lewis done go for it.  If you are Lewis double negative (which isn't very likely anyway), then you could go from there


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Which test would be better?  Do they cost the same?  Are the results instant like they are to check my blood type?


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results for secretor status take a few days, depending

Lewis blood test is around 130 dollars
it gives you RH
MN system
and subtype if you were an A

saliva test at DPN is less than 50 I believe

get the one Victoria linked you to,


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Okay, Lola.  I may have to wait a while to get that.  I didn't realize it'd be that much and I just paid bills today.     I've gotta save for that one.


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