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SandrAruba
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Okay, so I have these extra pounds that need to go (about 80 of them). Since May I've been super compliant and now with my husband not here I can be even more compliant. Because of my fatigue issues (that have improved significantly since I started the protocol) I have not been able to be as active as I would want to, so I've not been eating that much.

But now I am wondering maybe I am not eating enough. I am allowed 5 cups of veggies per day. I get no where near that. 2 maybe 3 at the most. I'm allowed fruit twice a day, 1/2 cup which I mix in my smoothie every morning (or I have an omelet). Then I force myself to have a midmorning snack (dates, or walnuts one handful). Then lunch time I have my veggies with fish, turkey or lamb (as is allowed) or when I have a veggie day, with beans. I only eat diamond veggies and fruit since Swami says it enhances my metabolism.

Then again midafternoon snack, I do it because I have to. I like to keep my bloodsugar level without as little spikes as possible. Sometimes I mix 4 ounces of yoghurt with soymilk (to make the yoghurt fluid) and drink that (love that btw) or one apple if I had eggs for breakfast.

Then in the evening I really don't feel like eating anymore but I usually try to get in two slices of spelt bread (or 4 depending on how big they are). And that's it. But I am not hungry in the evening. After 7 I just don't feel like eating anymore. I sometimes will have a cup of coffee.

So I put this all against my Swami portions and I am not eating enough. But I can't eat anymore. I just finished my red snapper with brussel sprouts and I am sooooo full, but I only had two cups of brussel sprouts.

Would it help if I ate more? Perhaps my body is holding on to the extra fat because it's preserving it? That's why I'm not loosing weight?





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Sandra,
I am not totally familiar with the warrior diet, but I think the bread in the pm might not be so great.
Otherwise, what you're eating sounds good.  You mentioned fat, what types of fats/oils do you use?
I will look at the Warrior supps to see what is suggested.....I know some warriors will probably have some advice here...
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Sandra,
I am not totally familiar with the warrior diet, but I think the bread in the pm might not be so great.
Otherwise, what you're eating sounds good.  You mentioned fat, what types of fats/oils do you use?
I will look at the Warrior supps to see what is suggested.....I know some warriors will probably have some advice here...


I use Olive oil in the skillet to prepare my fish etc. and I pour a little of that onto my plate when I eat it. Other then that, not much fat.

For the supps I did the test and I have protein blend and other suggested supps, but I don't want to start any more supps then I have right now for my fatigue protocol. I do always use deflect.

I was doubting the bread in the evening as well (but it's very convenient if you don't feel like eating), so sometimes I will have some yoghurt. Mmaybe I should eat a cucumber in the evening... cuts both ways, I have one more diamond veggie and cut out the bread.





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I am familiar with the Warrior diet because I followed it for 18 months (incorrectly typing myself
from the book).  I agree with Paula....the bread in the pm might not be so great.  You'd be
better off trading that bread for the vegetable portions you're missing with a small portion of
protein or beans.  Bread at night without anything else won't help stabilize your blood sugar. If
anything, it will spike blood sugar.

Perhaps rotating some of your foods...changing up what you eat for breakfast, lunch, eliminating
the bread a few days and see if you're hungrier for a real meal in the evening. And maybe go take a walk or do some light exercise.  

Are you drinking plenty of water?  

It's going to be difficult to lose 80 pounds and balance your blood sugar if you're eating 2-4
slices of bread every evening.  First of all, it's a lot of carb grams.  You're not able to burn any
of it off if eaten at night....and in addition, if it spikes your blood sugar, it's going to instruct
your body to store fat.  That's what insulin does.  If you eat a lot of carbs at once, your body
produces a lot of insulin....A lot of insulin eventually leads to insulin resistance.

I'm curious too. What fats do you eat?  What supplements, if any do you take?


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Quoted from Chloe
I am familiar with the Warrior diet because I followed it for 18 months (incorrectly typing myself
from the book).  I agree with Paula....the bread in the pm might not be so great.  You'd be
better off trading that bread for the vegetable portions you're missing with a small portion of
protein or beans.  Bread at night without anything else won't help stabilize your blood sugar. If
anything, it will spike blood sugar.

Perhaps rotating some of your foods...changing up what you eat for breakfast, lunch, eliminating
the bread a few days and see if you're hungrier for a real meal in the evening. And maybe go take a walk or do some light exercise.  

Are you drinking plenty of water?  

It's going to be difficult to lose 80 pounds and balance your blood sugar if you're eating 2-4
slices of bread every evening.  First of all, it's a lot of carb grams.  You're not able to burn any
of it off if eaten at night....and in addition, if it spikes your blood sugar, it's going to instruct
your body to store fat.  That's what insulin does.  If you eat a lot of carbs at once, your body
produces a lot of insulin....A lot of insulin eventually leads to insulin resistance.

I'm curious too. What fats do you eat?  What supplements, if any do you take?


I am allowed three slices of bread per day according to Swami. I assume those are regular slices, but my bread is not square, so in the middle the slices are bigger then at the end. So if I have slices from the middle I just take two and at the end the slices are smaller, then I take 4. I don't eat them plain, but with peanut butter or a slice of goat cheese or a slice of turkey breast. It is spelt bread. From my own home made spelt bread I take just two slices.

Yes, I do drink plenty of water. Supps: at this moment I am doing the fatigue protocol which is B12, and cortiguard. I always take deflect and I take aromastat for my pre-menopausal issues. And I take harmonia because I felt I did not get enough nutrients. I take that every other day (every day gave me gas, so I lowered the amount of times I take it).




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How are dates rated on your SWAMI?  I was noticing that they are black dot for Warriors in the book.  Dried fruits are very concentrated and if I ate a handful of dried fruits, I would be prone to put on weight.  That seems like a lot to me.



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How are dates rated on your SWAMI?  I was noticing that they are black dot for Warriors in the book.  Dried fruits are very concentrated and if I ate a handful of dried fruits, I would be prone to put on weight.  That seems like a lot to me.


Dates are a superfood on my Swami. That's why I eat them. I try to eat as much superfoods and diamonds as possible. I take neutrals, but very occasionally and mostly to get some variety. And I have only been taking them for the last three weeks or so (when I was going through my list I noticed them as a superfood and figured I could add them).




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Are your brussell sprouts cooked? If not, then they could behave as potential goitrogens impeding weight loss as can broccoli and other crucifers if they are not cooked.

Are you eating enough eggs and protein in general? Sufficient protein from eggs, seafood and meat will help weight loss as well as good healthy fats.

Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


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Are your brussell sprouts cooked? If not, then they could behave as potential goitrogens impeding weight loss as can broccoli and other crucifers if they are not cooked.

Are you eating enough eggs and protein in general? Sufficient protein from eggs, seafood and meat will help weight loss as well as good healthy fats.

Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


Yes, all veggies are cooked. Eggs are a diamond and I am allowed 6 per weeks. So I try to eat 2 every other day. I am hoping my protein is enough from the fish I eat. I am allowed fish 3 times a week and I eat it 3 times a week, then one time turkey, one time lamb and the other two days I eat beans as my protein source. I eat black beans which are neutral, because I haven't been able to find any superfood beans here yet.





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Sandra, you're eating more than I do and I am only around 120 pounds total. I would put on weight and feel uncomfortably full if I tried to eat as much as Swami suggests - my stomach cannot physically accommodate that much food. Remember to listen to your body  


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Sandra are you drinking water with lemon juice within a half hour of rising in the morning?  and are you getting 25 grams of protein within an hour of rising?  This is suppose to rev the metabolism up to lose weight.
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Nice, geminisue.

My thought on this also, was -- and I am not a fan of counting calories-- but just add them up and see. You might find you kicked yourself into starvation mode. I also think when you don't eat as much in a setting, your stomach eventually shrinks down and you don't feel as hungry and get fuller faster.

I don't think it's necessary to set calorie quotas, but it is something to be aware of-- extremes either way.

My gut just said from what you listed, maybe you are right on with not enough calories.


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If its on Swami super and beneficial and even neutral.. eat it ... and I think you seem to eat enough..

The problem I have is that after the first 20 pounds lost on anything, I stop.. the body seems to say enough - and go to sleep..  


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Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


I am not eating a lot of soy, but I use soy milk in my smoothie in the morning. From what I understand soy helps against cancer (having had thyroid cancer and already two patches of skin cancer removed, I think that's enough). So basically I die from obesity if I take soy and from cancer if I don't? (I know there is more to it then just that, just putting it very black and white)

As for eating bread in the evening, ER4YT states that I should get my protein at the beginning of the day. So I figured that leaves the carbs for the end of the day.




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Sandra are you drinking water with lemon juice within a half hour of rising in the morning?  and are you getting 25 grams of protein within an hour of rising?  This is suppose to rev the metabolism up to lose weight.


I can't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes of rising because of my thyroid meds (have to wait at least 30 minutes before eating anything after I take them). I tried moving the time I take the meds, but that doesn't work for me.

I would have to check how much protein I get, but I did get the protein blend and was planning on adding that to my morning smoothie. But I want to wait until I am finished with my fatigue protocol first. But I'll check how much protein I get in the morning.





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My gut just said from what you listed, maybe you are right on with not enough calories.


If I had to roughly guess, I think it would be somewhere around 1500 calories.





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Are you sleeping well? Not enough sleep can get your circadian rhythmn off and mess with your hormones.

I guess as long as the hormones are all up to par then the matabolism will follow. If your thyroid is OK then its possible you could have some weak adrenals.


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Are you sleeping well? Not enough sleep can get your circadian rhythmn off and mess with your hormones.

I guess as long as the hormones are all up to par then the matabolism will follow. If your thyroid is OK then its possible you could have some weak adrenals.


Sleep is getting better every day. Hormones are a mess, having no thyroid... But I managed to loose weight three years ago (when thyroid was also gone).





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In the last 6 weeks I've reversed my food-- I used to eat big in the morning then lighter the rest of the day.  Wore me out and also bored the daylights out of me.  I ate this way using blood type guidelines for about ten years.  I'm 40 and who knows, maybe there are all kinds of hormonal shifts that  increase insulin resistance.  I'm much better off having a recovery meal of whey and a grapefruit and coconut oil after my workout then tea and just a little fruit and vegetables till 6.  At 6 I go wild and eat 1500 calories or so in one sitting.  I don't have empirical data but I'm pretty sure I'm losing body fat.  I'm millions of times happier doing this than the conventional approach I miserably followed for so many years.  I've read people say they can't do a controlled fast during the day because of "blood sugar swings" but this is just nonsense.  The bloodsugar can't swing if it doesn't have food to work with.  My blood type A Teacher friend is trying it, albeit not with as much gusto as me, but he seems to be getting the whole concept.
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In the last 6 weeks I've reversed my food-- I used to eat big in the morning then lighter the rest of the day.  Wore me out and also bored the daylights out of me.  I ate this way using blood type guidelines for about ten years.  I'm 40 and who knows, maybe there are all kinds of hormonal shifts that  increase insulin resistance.  I'm much better off having a recovery meal of whey and a grapefruit and coconut oil after my workout then tea and just a little fruit and vegetables till 6.  At 6 I go wild and eat 1500 calories or so in one sitting.  I don't have empirical data but I'm pretty sure I'm losing body fat.  I'm millions of times happier doing this than the conventional approach I miserably followed for so many years.  I've read people say they can't do a controlled fast during the day because of "blood sugar swings" but this is just nonsense.  The bloodsugar can't swing if it doesn't have food to work with.  My blood type A Teacher friend is trying it, albeit not with as much gusto as me, but he seems to be getting the whole concept.


Sahara, I know that won't work for me. I was more or less forced to eat that way, the last three years in Holland, and I gained 20 pounds back (if not 30) from the 80 I had initially lost. Besides, living in the tropics, with this heat, you just don't have an appetite at the end of the day.

I am going to try the other suggestions of getting more protein in the morning. So I started with the protein blend. I figured with my soy milk I get 9 grams of protein, together with the 15 in the protein blend. So getting close to the 25 grams Sue suggested. I am also going try to not eat a fruit smoothie every morning and on those days, have my fruit as snack during the day. I will alternate with eggs with turkey or oatmeal or something like that. Since I'm allowed 6 eggs per week, I can do two eggs per morning, three mornings per week. Have 1 or 2 oatmeal days. I also bought flaxseed and will add that to my smoothie.  

I bought all kinds of compliant beans (pinto, soy, can't find any navy beans) and will have three days without meat at lunch and I will try to eat a little more veggies during lunch. And in the evening I will try to eat a light salad. I bought lots of cucumber and tomatoes (yes, those are superfood on my swami) and Romain lettuce. I found a great site where I can find how much protein certain foods contain, so I can check. Never really paid much attention to it, just followed my Swami as much as possible.

Because I sleep much better I notice I am getting much more active. And if I'm too tired to do anything, I will force myself to do some exercises (light weightlifting or something). Today I was tired also but I forced myself to do some yardwork. I must say, I do feel more satisfied about myself. Working up a sweat, just makes me feel good. Now I can reward myself with a nice shower with one of my lovely all natural soaps (I just find excuses to take a shower so I can use one of my soaps   )

Thanks all, I really wasn't paying that much attention to the amount of protein I was getting (and at which point of the day). I'll let you all know how I'm going. And if I am all slim and gorgeous I will post a before and after picture of myself!    




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Sandra, I am not an A or a Warrior, but when I read what and when you were eating what struck me is that it seems you should not be forcing yourself to eat when you are not hungry.  You need to listen to your body and ONLY eat when you are hungry, IMHO.  If you are worried about your blood sugar, you would be better off to include high quality, acceptable proteins with each meal and compliant veggies.  I would also cut back on the fruit, which can raise your blood sugar.  Try not to eat fruit without some form of protein to balance out the sugar.

I could NEVER eat all of the food on my SWAMI per day.  I limit my grains to once or twice a week and my fruits to three or four servings per week.  I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.  BTW, I also asked for the least amount of food and I still cannot eat it all.

Also, I do not see any form of exercise in your plan.  I assume you need to have some type of exercise as a Warrior.  Maybe you could begin by taking a leisurely walk and working up to doing what Dr. D calls vigorous walking.  He recommends Warriors exercise 30-40 minutes per day, at least four days per week.  He recommends two miles.  The reason I chose walking out of all the exercises he lists is that it is FREE and no matter what your level of physical fitness, most people can begin a walking program and work up to a two mile, vigorous walk, unless of course one is wheelchair bound or bed bound.  It also gets you outside and helps with mood improvement.  Exercise will help jump start your metabolism as well.  Dr. D also recommends meditation for Warriors.  Are you meditating?  Dr. D recommends 20-30 minutes per day, daily.  


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Sandra, I am not an A or a Warrior, but when I read what and when you were eating what struck me is that it seems you should not be forcing yourself to eat when you are not hungry.  You need to listen to your body and ONLY eat when you are hungry, IMHO.  If you are worried about your blood sugar, you would be better off to include high quality, acceptable proteins with each meal and compliant veggies.  I would also cut back on the fruit, which can raise your blood sugar.  Try not to eat fruit without some form of protein to balance out the sugar.

I could NEVER eat all of the food on my SWAMI per day.  I limit my grains to once or twice a week and my fruits to three or four servings per week.  I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.  BTW, I also asked for the least amount of food and I still cannot eat it all.

Also, I do not see any form of exercise in your plan.  I assume you need to have some type of exercise as a Warrior.  Maybe you could begin by taking a leisurely walk and working up to doing what Dr. D calls vigorous walking.  He recommends Warriors exercise 30-40 minutes per day, at least four days per week.  He recommends two miles.  The reason I chose walking out of all the exercises he lists is that it is FREE and no matter what your level of physical fitness, most people can begin a walking program and work up to a two mile, vigorous walk, unless of course one is wheelchair bound or bed bound.  It also gets you outside and helps with mood improvement.  Exercise will help jump start your metabolism as well.  Dr. D also recommends meditation for Warriors.  Are you meditating?  Dr. D recommends 20-30 minutes per day, daily.  


I figured that since it is obvious from the info I put into Swami I am overweight, that it would not give me too much too eat, but I have to be careful not to eat too little, because I know that will shut down my metabolism completely. That is why I try to eat 6 times a day. I also know that if I don't maintain my sugar balance I get enormous cravings in the evening and then I pork out. I am trying to avoid that. I feel I should be hungry at times, that means my body wants food and will start burning fat (at least that seems logical to me).

As for exercise, I know I don't do enough, but that is due to the heavy fatigue. It's a vicious circle I know, but with my fatigue protocol I am getting less tired and I am able to do more slowly every day. Walking is no option here on Aruba. Too many stray dogs that will bother you. So when I can, I get on my eliptical (which hasn't been that often these last weeks). I do do some light weightlifting, at regular interval though. And meditation I try to do 4 times per week.

I am trying to get more protein and cut back on the fruit. That does seem to be the general consensus among most of you, so I am trying that. Like I said, never really paid much attention to the amount of protein I am getting, just tried to eat according to my Swami.





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I figured that since it is obvious from the info I put into Swami I am overweight, that it would not give me too much too eat, but I have to be careful not to eat too little, because I know that will shut down my metabolism completely. That is why I try to eat 6 times a day. I also know that if I don't maintain my sugar balance I get enormous cravings in the evening and then I pork out. I am trying to avoid that. I feel I should be hungry at times, that means my body wants food and will start burning fat (at least that seems logical to me).

As for exercise, I know I don't do enough, but that is due to the heavy fatigue. It's a vicious circle I know, but with my fatigue protocol I am getting less tired and I am able to do more slowly every day. Walking is no option here on Aruba. Too many stray dogs that will bother you. So when I can, I get on my eliptical (which hasn't been that often these last weeks). I do do some light weightlifting, at regular interval though. And meditation I try to do 4 times per week.

I am trying to get more protein and cut back on the fruit. That does seem to be the general consensus among most of you, so I am trying that. Like I said, never really paid much attention to the amount of protein I am getting, just tried to eat according to my Swami.



It seems that if you do cut back on the fruit and simple carbs like the bread and increase your protein and veggies in their place, you will probably see the benefit of stabilizing your blood sugar as well.  

As for the exercise, I do understand that vicious circle.  Maybe setting attainable daily or weekly exercise goals will help to move you forward in that direction as you continue the fatigue protocols.  Good for you on the meditation as well!


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Okay, I've been making some changes. In the morning I take a large glass of water with half a lemon squeezed in (from my own lemon tree).
After that I first take protein blend mixed with some soy milk. That way I have my proteins suggested by Sue.

After that I have whatever breakfast I will have, I try to limit my fruit smoothie to no more then three times per week. Otherwise it's 2 eggs with a slice of turkey. If I do two eggs, I can have this breakfast three days in the week. And my other alternative is oatmeal. That fills up really nice as well. If I did not have a fruit smoothie I make sure I have one apple somewhere half way morning.

For lunch I still have my veggies with either beans, fish, turkey or lamb. I try to alternate as much as possible and not eat the same thing two days in a row. In the evening I have a small salad, romaine lettuce, tomatoes (not too much) and cucumber. I just made my own homemade totally compliant mushroom soup, I can have a cup of that when I get home from work.

I noticed that with more protein I do get a hunger feeling faster through out the day. So I make sure I have some nuts (walnuts, peanuts) at hand.

I have been a lot more active. Not exercising, but yesterday I painted the kitchen. But I still try to do my light weightlifting at least 4 times a week, as well as my meditation. This morning I actually had a walk. Took the dogs to the beach, that's always a nice walk.

And I think I may have lost some weight (don't have a scale so I will not know for sure until my pants drops off my expletive deleted), but I was able to get in one of my shorts which I wasn't able to close the button of a while back. It's still a little tight, but I can put it on, and I wasn't able to do so before. So that's good news.




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Do you not eat any protein in the evening, Sandra?



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Do you not eat any protein in the evening, Sandra?


No, I eat my salad somewhere between 6 and 7 and after that I don't eat anymore. Maybe something to drink, diluted fruit juice or water.

Should I?

In ER4YT it says that I should have most of my protein at the beginning of the day.






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I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.
I'm struggling to eat only what SWAMI allows and not go over the portions too much. I still have about 25 lbs to lose, but it's coming off slowly.

A few months ago, I  tried to strictly limit my food intake to what SWAMI reccomends, and simultaneously do all the exercise reccomended, and I worked myself into a fibro-flare. I need to eat enough to promote healing and have energy for my life, and I just can't function on the limited fats and proteins SWAMI reccomends. I've been careful about the carbohydrate and fruit portions, along with exercising about half as much as reccomended (which is still more than I was doing before) and I'm starting to slim down.

I think this might be a Gatherer thing- the tendency to overeat.



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No, I eat my salad somewhere between 6 and 7 and after that I don't eat anymore. Maybe something to drink, diluted fruit juice or water.

Should I?

In ER4YT it says that I should have most of my protein at the beginning of the day.



I don't have my copy of ER4YT anymore, so I can't check it out.  But the idea of only having salad and possibly dilute fruit juice in the evening gives me twinges of "not rightness".  Maybe other type A's will help out here.  

My feeling about it is that maybe some ground flax or ground nuts or even a few superfood beans tossed in would offer a grounded way to end the day and help with peaceful sleep.  



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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.

I wonder how thyroid related it all happens to be. It sucks when you eat right and exercise yet see no results... so it is like you have done nothing at all. In a world were weight control is paramount, warriors are the worst equipped to deal with it this day in age. Also most of us live in cultures were body refinement is highly prized - warriors can do nothing but try and not be obese as weight lifting, running, swimming, etc, will not sculpt your body any more than an unnoticeable amount many people have naturally.

If you were anyone else you either would not have a weight problem or could work your butt off exercising to fix yourself. Instead it is like everything you do is wrong, you always eat too much or too little, you always exercise too little or too much, and if you get stressed over being a biological dead-end you have been a determent to yourself.

There has to be some kind of bigger explanation behind this or warrior genes would not be around.
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Sandra , I agree with Victoria,  a bit more for dinner.


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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.  


Ah, but but people don't need to live long, productive, healthy lives to pass on their genes. They only need to live long enough to reproduce and raise their offspring to the point where they can fend for themselves.  In a society where people married shortly after puberty, living to 35 or 40 would suffice to pass on genes.


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I don't have my copy of ER4YT anymore, so I can't check it out.  But the idea of only having salad and possibly dilute fruit juice in the evening gives me twinges of "not rightness".  Maybe other type A's will help out here.  

My feeling about it is that maybe some ground flax or ground nuts or even a few superfood beans tossed in would offer a grounded way to end the day and help with peaceful sleep.  


I am eating the salad because I don't get to my amount of veggies per day otherwise. And it takes me 30 minutes if not more to finish my evening salad. Like I said, I just don't have an appetite at the end of the day although my body feels it should have some food, so I do want to eat something. So instead of the bread I had before I switched to salad.

I can't eat anymore than what I am eating right now. I really don't go to bed hungry or unsatisfied.





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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.

I wonder how thyroid related it all happens to be. It sucks when you eat right and exercise yet see no results... so it is like you have done nothing at all. In a world were weight control is paramount, warriors are the worst equipped to deal with it this day in age. Also most of us live in cultures were body refinement is highly prized - warriors can do nothing but try and not be obese as weight lifting, running, swimming, etc, will not sculpt your body any more than an unnoticeable amount many people have naturally.

If you were anyone else you either would not have a weight problem or could work your butt off exercising to fix yourself. Instead it is like everything you do is wrong, you always eat too much or too little, you always exercise too little or too much, and if you get stressed over being a biological dead-end you have been a determent to yourself.

There has to be some kind of bigger explanation behind this or warrior genes would not be around.


Hey DOS, that's really the uplifting supporting message I needed to hear right now... Damned if I do, damned if I don't... Thanks!




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You can take it like that, or believe differently. How about seeing that you are not the only person in some frustration? I think there are answers, as I have said, but I have no idea what they are.

Currently we live in a high fat world, so warriors early on are suffering from a lot of problems of current ideas on health, and the bad side of poor food. Being poor means eating saturated fat, not just eating low meat, so the upside is a bit hard to find for your genetics.
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You can take it like that, or believe differently. How about seeing that you are not the only person in some frustration? I think there are answers, as I have said, but I have no idea what they are.

Currently we live in a high fat world, so warriors early on are suffering from a lot of problems of current ideas on health, and the bad side of poor food. Being poor means eating saturated fat, not just eating low meat, so the upside is a bit hard to find for your genetics.


I am sure that I am not the only one frustrated and I am sure that more people are struggling like I am or even more. But after almost a decade of struggling one does get frustrated and I believe I have tried to battle my illnesses without trying to feel sorry for myself. But even I get to my wits end that is why I am trying to find a way to deal with this and to find some wisdom from all those here who have more knowledge on the subject then I do. And all have tried to help, try this, have you looked at this... No one says, "hey you're a warrior so you're screwed anyway".

As for your second part of your message, I really have no idea what you are talking about. Are you implying that I am (or was) poor and that is why I am (or have been) eating saturated fat?? Really I'll just put that aside as part of a language barrier. I always thought my English was pretty good, but I don't understand what you are saying.




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Sandra,

I browsed through this thread, although I didn't read it carefully, so please disregard this if it is covered elsewhere...  

In reading about the Warrior in pgs. 166-167 of The Genotype Diet book:
     Fat balance (Omega 3 to 6) is very important to maintain high metabolism and proper immune system function.
     Trans fat sources should be avoided as they cause arterial inflammation, etc...
     High-glycemic foods should be avoided to, among others reasons, sustain weight loss...


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I am just saying that what made warriors higher functioning in the past, to be in times of famine and what not, is not true today. It is actually to a warriors benefit to never over-eat throughout their life. It promotes longevity to not have too much blood sugar. I am not saying you did anything, I am just talking about the problem all of us are facing with these genetics, and why it is not looking up like for others. Yes it sounds unappealing, but that is why I am searching for different answers. I want to believe you and I can overcome what is going on somehow but I am not sure what the answers are.

The "screwed anyway" or "damned if you do damned if you don't" factor is something that should be addressed. See everyone is stressing all these things you have to do... I have been down the road of extreme vigilance in every detail of my diet and found it to be unrewarding. The stress if kind of never ending. That is why I am looking for a simpler solution. It sucks to feel like you are being punished for everything you do, every choice you make. Everyone around me is high functioning and sees results for what they put in. I am trying to understand how to go beyond just eating for my BD(GT/SWAMI) to not feel totally miserable, and go far enough into feeling good... but that means attaining a healthy weight (mentally and physically, fat perception, not numbers).

When it is as simple as being 80% compliant and exercise is the biggest key for other GenoTypes, it all lines up in a hurry and they get results. I see lots of people that eat close to (80% maybe, not sure) with ratios maybe a little off, and bust their butts exercising, get results, I want to do the same. I often wonder if they way to it is just being so stringent but not getting stressed out. However it totally blows when it is all mind games. I find mind games a curse of over-thinking constantly to the point of stress. How do you be stress free yet aware of every single thing you do to the smallest detail?

There has to be something missing in all of this... I know a bunch of young warriors better off than me but there are still are still a host of issues in the world of today that they face and it appears like a losing game to them. I feel warriors are by far the most entirely different people of all. I know Dr. D considers Explorers (especially non-secreters) to be the odd bunch but I think warriors almost aliens compared to everyone else. Explorers might have quirks but they fit in better with the rest of society, and participate in the same things in similar ways. They might set new grounds in ideas, concepts, and many things, but they are part of something at that point. Warriors lean more on being loners, out of place, unable to participate in many of the same things, just alienated in many ways.

There is so much going on with warriors that I think Dr. D is under-crediting them. I want to understand more about it.

Instead of playing this game of suggesting you become nearly abusive with following diet, lets asses your issues. I want to work with you on this.

First how is your digestion? Is everything very complete? I could not overstate the level of health that comes from maintaining what some people call intrinsic integrity in your digestive system. It is the difference between some level invulnerability or deterioration.

How stable is your blood sugar throughout the day, do you get cravings? Does you thyroid medicine curb cravings?

What is your circulation like?

Does your mind wander and constantly think or do you find peace easily in not thinking about stuff?

Would you be willing to increase exercise to higher level than even recommended for just a week or two? This is part of what I am beginning to think about warriors needing a different approach than Dr. D's. It appears perhaps they need stimulus. To think in an epigenetic sense throughout histories they would of gone through times of stress and relief. I do not recommend mental stress, but perhaps jump starting a system with intense enough exercise to get blood flow at a high level, several times, and literally push the system, might be a very good idea. Yoga comes close if you do it long enough, and cycles out stress, but is not the most available thing. I would actually say that taking some form of blood thinning stuff after exercise might work. Exercise will stimulate things in the body to work at a higher level, but stress then thickening the blood seems to counteract the whole situation of benefit in some ways. Later in the night I would recommend a lot of ginger juice (boil ginger) until relief comes, or a couple glasses of red wine(at least two). You will notice your insulin reception will improve a lot so the wine will go to you quickly. The beauty though is keeping down on the blood sugar which wine does not affect. There is a possibility this may have an effect similar to the idea of celebration after battle or something, since stress puts warriors on high alert (good for fighting, scavenging, and fleeing). Warriors genes appear bread out of culture, like many, but they are recent and may be much more influenced by it than earlier GTs. Even Dr. D has admitted to enjoying martial arts (which he recommends to other GTs but not warriors). You might say I am getting to factors of frequency playing a role. After all warriors would appear very un-sedentary in their life functions, but not per-say nomadic. I have found out that sometimes they only stress relieve I can get is if I move heavy stuff or apply a lot of leverage to something for long enough. It can take me from stressed out to relief; it just happens when I get my heart rate up high enough for a moment but by applying myself in slower motion than say running, but still at a high effort.  

All that sad I think perhaps warriors need the occasional stimulus of sorts to stop their body from believing it can just wither away and develop problems that make it hard for it to apply itself, say like with joints etc. The confusion in our society is that we believe if you exercise you should always be doing the same level on a weekly basis (low and high intensity, but always high mixed in).
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Sandra,

I browsed through this thread, although I didn't read it carefully, so please disregard this if it is covered elsewhere...  

In reading about the Warrior in pgs. 166-167 of The Genotype Diet book:
     Fat balance (Omega 3 to 6) is very important to maintain high metabolism and proper immune system function.
     Trans fat sources should be avoided as they cause arterial inflammation, etc...
     High-glycemic foods should be avoided to, among others reasons, sustain weight loss...


Joe, others have indeed mentioned fats. I use Olive oil when I cook and otherwise I get fats from some peanuts and walnuts that I eat. perhaps I could increase the fats as well.

Trans fat, I don't think I am eating any since I only eat fresh vegetables and fruits. Nothing pre-prepared out of a box, I even make my own soup from scratch.

High-glycemic foods, haven't checked but I am following my Swami (especially the diamond foods) and I doubt that there will be any on there, since my Swami is set for weight loss.




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Instead of playing this game of suggesting you become nearly abusive with following diet, lets asses your issues. I want to work with you on this.

First how is your digestion? Is everything very complete? I could not overstate the level of health that comes from maintaining what some people call intrinsic integrity in your digestive system. It is the difference between some level invulnerability or deterioration.

How stable is your blood sugar throughout the day, do you get cravings? Does you thyroid medicine curb cravings?

What is your circulation like?

Does your mind wander and constantly think or do you find peace easily in not thinking about stuff?

Would you be willing to increase exercise to higher level than even recommended for just a week or two? This is part of what I am beginning to think about warriors needing a different approach than Dr. D's. It appears perhaps they need stimulus. To think in an epigenetic sense throughout histories they would of gone through times of stress and relief. I do not recommend mental stress, but perhaps jump starting a system with intense enough exercise to get blood flow at a high level, several times, and literally push the system, might be a very good idea. Yoga comes close if you do it long enough, and cycles out stress, but is not the most available thing. I would actually say that taking some form of blood thinning stuff after exercise might work. Exercise will stimulate things in the body to work at a higher level, but stress then thickening the blood seems to counteract the whole situation of benefit in some ways. Later in the night I would recommend a lot of ginger juice (boil ginger) until relief comes, or a couple glasses of red wine(at least two). You will notice your insulin reception will improve a lot so the wine will go to you quickly. The beauty though is keeping down on the blood sugar which wine does not affect. There is a possibility this may have an effect similar to the idea of celebration after battle or something, since stress puts warriors on high alert (good for fighting, scavenging, and fleeing). Warriors genes appear bread out of culture, like many, but they are recent and may be much more influenced by it than earlier GTs. Even Dr. D has admitted to enjoying martial arts (which he recommends to other GTs but not warriors). You might say I am getting to factors of frequency playing a role. After all warriors would appear very un-sedentary in their life functions, but not per-say nomadic. I have found out that sometimes they only stress relieve I can get is if I move heavy stuff or apply a lot of leverage to something for long enough. It can take me from stressed out to relief; it just happens when I get my heart rate up high enough for a moment but by applying myself in slower motion than say running, but still at a high effort.  

All that sad I think perhaps warriors need the occasional stimulus of sorts to stop their body from believing it can just wither away and develop problems that make it hard for it to apply itself, say like with joints etc. The confusion in our society is that we believe if you exercise you should always be doing the same level on a weekly basis (low and high intensity, but always high mixed in).


Okay, well that surely sounds different then your first two messages. I was thinking to myself "wow, this guy does really honor his name as destroyer". I was starting to feel a little good about myself and here comes destroyer...

Digestion: I think my digestion is good. I've been following BTD for 6 years now, with a little relapse about three years back, but overall, I am eating healthy and I notice it in my digestion. I used to have terrible heartburn keeping me up at night. No more. I am very regular. Now with the changes that I've made that has shifted from twice a day to three to four times bowel movement, but I think that will regulate itself once my body gets used to the new amounts of protein and changes in the diet. Can it be better? Probably, but I am happy with what I've accomplished and not have tummy aches and horrible acid reflux. Others have suggested that I perhaps need to heal my gut a bit more, so I am trying to do that with the help of Deflect and detoxical-D. I have also started back on the Gastro-D, because I think my allergy reaction may have been from the kelp I was taking and not the Gastro.

Cravings: Now with more protein, I get more cravings. Apparently carbs keep the cravings down. But I don't get cravings for sugar or fatty foods. A piece of fruit or some nuts will make the craving go away. I am very conscious about keeping my blood sugar as flat as possible because I know if it spikes up or down I do get the tendency to pork out in the evening. My thyroid meds don't curb anything.

I think my circulation is good. I got a cut on my leg the other day and I noticed that it took a while for the bleeding to stop. Normally if I get a cut somewhere it hardly bleeds and my blood is very dark red. The cut showed me that my blood is indeed thinner then usual and it was brighter red. Not the dark almost black blood I am used to. My right leg has poor circulation because I had a blood cloth in my knee 10 years back. I am taking bromelain to take care of the access water in that leg. It is helping, in the morning my ankle is normal and thin again.

The mind: ah yes, my mind wanders constantly. It is one of the reason I sleep poorly. But with practice these last weeks I have been able to meditate and shut it down a bit. That is also helping in the sleep area. But it takes some work to do it and I don't always succeed. But I am pretty much thinking all day, about the book I am writing, about work, about my husband, about chores that need to be done. I find rest in writing certain things down. That way I don't have to think about them anymore.

Exercise: In my youth I was a competitive swimmer with training 6 times per week for two-three hours. I felt great! At this moment I don't exercise as much as I would want to, because of the fatigue. But now that I think about it, in 2006 when I started this BTD I lost 80 pounds in 6 months and I exercised a lot. I did the elliptical 4 times per week, went swimming twice a week (and then swim 2 kilometers). I had a buddy and we would go bicycling in the weekend and during the week I would go take a walk in the country side (and after that come home and do the elliptical still) twice a week. So my exercise routine was pretty heavy and most certainly more then recommended. Today I had a day of cleaning the house (big house takes me about three hours), I moved away two cabinets (heavy lifting) and I painted the kitchen for the second time. And I feel very good about it, tired, but good.
I like pushing my body to the limit physically. It makes me feel good. But at this moment I have to be careful not to push too far because it will back lash. So basically I think my answer is yes, I would be willing to push my exercise to a higher regime then recommended. Maybe it will force my body out of this fatigue.

As for stress, I don't really stress about this diet. I've come to terms with the fact that I will have to watch what I eat for the rest of my life. And I've accepted that I will never be thin again, but I would like to be less then I am now, just for my health. it's better for my back, for my knees... etc. I don't even own a scale anymore. I just go by how my clothes fit me. And it's nice when you go to the store and you can buy a smaller size.

I do stress about idiots at work...

As for the red wine, I was thinking about getting a few bottle and having myself a glass every evening.







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I use Olive oil when I cook and otherwise I get fats from some peanuts and walnuts that I eat. perhaps I could increase the fats as well.

Do you have other beneficial fats on your SWAMI? - Sometimes changing the fat you are using will stimulate additional healing.  I recently started mixing in coconut oil (a SF for me), and it has helped me.  I think the different oils are there for more than just flavor variety.  I realize you are subject to what is available around you...  




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Do you have other beneficial fats on your SWAMI? - Sometimes changing the fat you are using will stimulate additional healing.  I recently started mixing in coconut oil (a SF for me), and it has helped me.  I think the different oils are there for more than just flavor variety.  I realize you are subject to what is available around you...  




Almond oil, flaxseed are two that are super/diamond and two that I have access too. I also bought flaxseed this weekend. Was planning on adding those to my smoothie or in any other way I can.





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Sandra, it sounds like you are doing great!  Keep up the fantastic work!

When you said that you will have to watch your weight for the rest of you life, I would like to say that I am thin - and have been thin for the last 26 years - but I watch my weight daily.  I was over weight from the age of about 18 - 25.  Many people assume that thin people are born that way.  I would beg to differ.   I am not obsessed with my weight but I watch it because I have been over weight in the past and know how extremely difficult it is to lose all that weight and maintain your good health in the meantime.

Just remember that there is no guarantee that you will be over weight your entire life, but you may need to watch your weight your entire life.  Life is about making choices and food choices are just one of the many choices we have to make.  Personally, it seems from what you write that you are in a really good place and are working your diet in a way that is healthy.  I would encourage you to continue and understand that maintaining your weight to what is comfortable for you may be a lifelong journey, but along the path of that journey you will also have health and wellness.  Nothing wrong with that!  Health and wellness are worth working for, IMHO!!!     Keep up the great work!


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I would try increasing your exercise to a much higher level for a week or two, until you feel it stresses you, and then back off. I would only do it every other day, and make sure to intake lots of blood thinning stuff in-between.

Also getting exercise that leaves you tired but was not intense may be a good idea. Examples are walking all day, swimming for a long time but not doing laps or anything of "exercise" quality, and whatever else you can come up with to just burn calories.
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Patty, thanks. I try my best, I just really want to get this right for once and for all.

DOS: I'll try increasing my exercise regime. I can't say I've even felt stressed about exercising. And for swimming, that's the good thing about the Caribbean ocean, I can just jump in and swim (just have to be sure to turn around and swim back to shore at some point).




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Just remember if you find yourself getting short with someone, or your mind wandering around or depression then you need to back off for awhile and relax, meditate, blood thin.
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...that's the good thing about the Caribbean ocean, I can just jump in and swim (just have to be sure to turn around and swim back to shore at some point).


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Okay, so day before yesterday, I did not do real exercise, but I had to clean the yard which was physical activity for more then 1 hour. So with all the shoveling and raking and wheel barreling I figured that would suffice for my day activities. I like this kind or work because you use muscles that you never even knew you had. I was not sore afterwards, just felt great.

Yesterday, I did not feel like exercising at all, it is hot (Irene is taking away all the wind on this island and it's so so so hot) but I did it anyway. I did some serious light weightlifting. I did all my different exercises, arms, shoulders, legs, butt takes me about 45 minutes. Worked up a really nice sweat and afterwards I was proud of myself. Slept like a baby, 6.5 hours straight!

I won't go swimming until the weather has normalized again. With this weather there is a change of yelly fish in the ocean. Encountered those critters once, was not a pleasant meeting. Hopefully tomorrow or the day after.

So all in all, I am doing good. Trying to keep the carbs down and the protein up and I am feeling better.




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Good!

I am not convinced of the really low weight thing personally, for warriors. I feel great after lifting 80lb or 100lb bags of sand/concrete. The blood gets going really well for me that way. It works a million times better than hard cardio workouts (I usually stop breathing heard and my heart just pumps really fast). I do sleep better after that too.

Perhaps it is a different of the type of workout with weights. When I did free-weights in high school it felt good but I am starting to think warriors benefit more from retracting action, than pushing, in the arms. Plus I like more natural moving big objects around than the super rigid form of weight rooms; granted with both you have to be somewhat safe, but I can sling heavy stuff around in awkward ways others can not without hurting themselves. The weight room is just all based on (typically) "presses". I am not convinced warriors benefit from trying to "build" muscle as much as they do just exercising their strength capability. If you are one you know you can repeatedly pick up heavy objects onto shoulders or something and move them somewhere, in a working manner, one shot type of thing, instead of repeated motion with lower weight. For me repeated motion with lower weight equals tight muscles, where as really giving some series effort to say a 100lb sand bag just does not do that. I really prefer a range of motions.

I am really thinking maybe we should stop trying to be all the same assuming we will benefit from similar things. I know Dr. D has stated this to some degree but I think biologically speaking there might be a more heightened since of benefit possible with exercise. It does after all keep people alive and lively, of all GTs, just Type A's can not lose weight or keep stress down with most people's ideas of "traditional" exercise for really "getting in shape".
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I've been paying attention to how I feel while doing hard work or exercising and I notice that my mind clears when I am busy. As such it's kind of a meditation as well, the mind is not wandering as it usually does. I do weightlifting exercising with light weights, but I keep at it until I feel my muscles start to ache. While I am doing that I am, of course, counting how many lifts I do, while focusing on the way I stand, keeping my belly muscles tight etc. etc. No time to think of anything else.

I think it's one of the reasons I feel so great afterwards, not only did I work my body, but I cleared my mind as well. I am able to focus better on just that one thing while exercising then while I am meditating. Meditation is hard work for me, mentally.




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I've been paying attention to how I feel while doing hard work or exercising and I notice that my mind clears when I am busy. As such it's kind of a meditation as well, the mind is not wandering as it usually does. I do weightlifting exercising with light weights, but I keep at it until I feel my muscles start to ache. While I am doing that I am, of course, counting how many lifts I do, while focusing on the way I stand, keeping my belly muscles tight etc. etc. No time to think of anything else.

I think it's one of the reasons I feel so great afterwards, not only did I work my body, but I cleared my mind as well. I am able to focus better on just that one thing while exercising then while I am meditating. Meditation is hard work for me, mentally.


Physical labor and exercise definitely help with your mental attitude.  I assume you are enjoying the endorphin buzz    Best feeling in the world.  I even like walking in a quiet, tranquil place.  I do my best thinking and problem-solving when on a walk or a run.


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This morning I got up and put on this shirt/dress that I had hanging in the closet. Once I was at work I realized that I had never worn this piece before because I had purposely bought it one size smaller, so I could wear it when I lost the weight I wanted. A month ago it didn't fit yet.

Now it fits perfectly! Guess I am loosing weight!




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