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SandrAruba
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Do you not eat any protein in the evening, Sandra?


No, I eat my salad somewhere between 6 and 7 and after that I don't eat anymore. Maybe something to drink, diluted fruit juice or water.

Should I?

In ER4YT it says that I should have most of my protein at the beginning of the day.






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I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.
I'm struggling to eat only what SWAMI allows and not go over the portions too much. I still have about 25 lbs to lose, but it's coming off slowly.

A few months ago, I  tried to strictly limit my food intake to what SWAMI reccomends, and simultaneously do all the exercise reccomended, and I worked myself into a fibro-flare. I need to eat enough to promote healing and have energy for my life, and I just can't function on the limited fats and proteins SWAMI reccomends. I've been careful about the carbohydrate and fruit portions, along with exercising about half as much as reccomended (which is still more than I was doing before) and I'm starting to slim down.

I think this might be a Gatherer thing- the tendency to overeat.



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No, I eat my salad somewhere between 6 and 7 and after that I don't eat anymore. Maybe something to drink, diluted fruit juice or water.

Should I?

In ER4YT it says that I should have most of my protein at the beginning of the day.



I don't have my copy of ER4YT anymore, so I can't check it out.  But the idea of only having salad and possibly dilute fruit juice in the evening gives me twinges of "not rightness".  Maybe other type A's will help out here.  

My feeling about it is that maybe some ground flax or ground nuts or even a few superfood beans tossed in would offer a grounded way to end the day and help with peaceful sleep.  



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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.

I wonder how thyroid related it all happens to be. It sucks when you eat right and exercise yet see no results... so it is like you have done nothing at all. In a world were weight control is paramount, warriors are the worst equipped to deal with it this day in age. Also most of us live in cultures were body refinement is highly prized - warriors can do nothing but try and not be obese as weight lifting, running, swimming, etc, will not sculpt your body any more than an unnoticeable amount many people have naturally.

If you were anyone else you either would not have a weight problem or could work your butt off exercising to fix yourself. Instead it is like everything you do is wrong, you always eat too much or too little, you always exercise too little or too much, and if you get stressed over being a biological dead-end you have been a determent to yourself.

There has to be some kind of bigger explanation behind this or warrior genes would not be around.
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Sandra , I agree with Victoria,  a bit more for dinner.


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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.  


Ah, but but people don't need to live long, productive, healthy lives to pass on their genes. They only need to live long enough to reproduce and raise their offspring to the point where they can fend for themselves.  In a society where people married shortly after puberty, living to 35 or 40 would suffice to pass on genes.


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I don't have my copy of ER4YT anymore, so I can't check it out.  But the idea of only having salad and possibly dilute fruit juice in the evening gives me twinges of "not rightness".  Maybe other type A's will help out here.  

My feeling about it is that maybe some ground flax or ground nuts or even a few superfood beans tossed in would offer a grounded way to end the day and help with peaceful sleep.  


I am eating the salad because I don't get to my amount of veggies per day otherwise. And it takes me 30 minutes if not more to finish my evening salad. Like I said, I just don't have an appetite at the end of the day although my body feels it should have some food, so I do want to eat something. So instead of the bread I had before I switched to salad.

I can't eat anymore than what I am eating right now. I really don't go to bed hungry or unsatisfied.





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This all plays into why I am not convinced Dr. D has warriors figured out. If all the problems they always seem to have existed back in the day of development all the genes would of been lost when they died without modern support to keep them alive.

I wonder how thyroid related it all happens to be. It sucks when you eat right and exercise yet see no results... so it is like you have done nothing at all. In a world were weight control is paramount, warriors are the worst equipped to deal with it this day in age. Also most of us live in cultures were body refinement is highly prized - warriors can do nothing but try and not be obese as weight lifting, running, swimming, etc, will not sculpt your body any more than an unnoticeable amount many people have naturally.

If you were anyone else you either would not have a weight problem or could work your butt off exercising to fix yourself. Instead it is like everything you do is wrong, you always eat too much or too little, you always exercise too little or too much, and if you get stressed over being a biological dead-end you have been a determent to yourself.

There has to be some kind of bigger explanation behind this or warrior genes would not be around.


Hey DOS, that's really the uplifting supporting message I needed to hear right now... Damned if I do, damned if I don't... Thanks!




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You can take it like that, or believe differently. How about seeing that you are not the only person in some frustration? I think there are answers, as I have said, but I have no idea what they are.

Currently we live in a high fat world, so warriors early on are suffering from a lot of problems of current ideas on health, and the bad side of poor food. Being poor means eating saturated fat, not just eating low meat, so the upside is a bit hard to find for your genetics.
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You can take it like that, or believe differently. How about seeing that you are not the only person in some frustration? I think there are answers, as I have said, but I have no idea what they are.

Currently we live in a high fat world, so warriors early on are suffering from a lot of problems of current ideas on health, and the bad side of poor food. Being poor means eating saturated fat, not just eating low meat, so the upside is a bit hard to find for your genetics.


I am sure that I am not the only one frustrated and I am sure that more people are struggling like I am or even more. But after almost a decade of struggling one does get frustrated and I believe I have tried to battle my illnesses without trying to feel sorry for myself. But even I get to my wits end that is why I am trying to find a way to deal with this and to find some wisdom from all those here who have more knowledge on the subject then I do. And all have tried to help, try this, have you looked at this... No one says, "hey you're a warrior so you're screwed anyway".

As for your second part of your message, I really have no idea what you are talking about. Are you implying that I am (or was) poor and that is why I am (or have been) eating saturated fat?? Really I'll just put that aside as part of a language barrier. I always thought my English was pretty good, but I don't understand what you are saying.




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Sandra,

I browsed through this thread, although I didn't read it carefully, so please disregard this if it is covered elsewhere...  

In reading about the Warrior in pgs. 166-167 of The Genotype Diet book:
     Fat balance (Omega 3 to 6) is very important to maintain high metabolism and proper immune system function.
     Trans fat sources should be avoided as they cause arterial inflammation, etc...
     High-glycemic foods should be avoided to, among others reasons, sustain weight loss...


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I am just saying that what made warriors higher functioning in the past, to be in times of famine and what not, is not true today. It is actually to a warriors benefit to never over-eat throughout their life. It promotes longevity to not have too much blood sugar. I am not saying you did anything, I am just talking about the problem all of us are facing with these genetics, and why it is not looking up like for others. Yes it sounds unappealing, but that is why I am searching for different answers. I want to believe you and I can overcome what is going on somehow but I am not sure what the answers are.

The "screwed anyway" or "damned if you do damned if you don't" factor is something that should be addressed. See everyone is stressing all these things you have to do... I have been down the road of extreme vigilance in every detail of my diet and found it to be unrewarding. The stress if kind of never ending. That is why I am looking for a simpler solution. It sucks to feel like you are being punished for everything you do, every choice you make. Everyone around me is high functioning and sees results for what they put in. I am trying to understand how to go beyond just eating for my BD(GT/SWAMI) to not feel totally miserable, and go far enough into feeling good... but that means attaining a healthy weight (mentally and physically, fat perception, not numbers).

When it is as simple as being 80% compliant and exercise is the biggest key for other GenoTypes, it all lines up in a hurry and they get results. I see lots of people that eat close to (80% maybe, not sure) with ratios maybe a little off, and bust their butts exercising, get results, I want to do the same. I often wonder if they way to it is just being so stringent but not getting stressed out. However it totally blows when it is all mind games. I find mind games a curse of over-thinking constantly to the point of stress. How do you be stress free yet aware of every single thing you do to the smallest detail?

There has to be something missing in all of this... I know a bunch of young warriors better off than me but there are still are still a host of issues in the world of today that they face and it appears like a losing game to them. I feel warriors are by far the most entirely different people of all. I know Dr. D considers Explorers (especially non-secreters) to be the odd bunch but I think warriors almost aliens compared to everyone else. Explorers might have quirks but they fit in better with the rest of society, and participate in the same things in similar ways. They might set new grounds in ideas, concepts, and many things, but they are part of something at that point. Warriors lean more on being loners, out of place, unable to participate in many of the same things, just alienated in many ways.

There is so much going on with warriors that I think Dr. D is under-crediting them. I want to understand more about it.

Instead of playing this game of suggesting you become nearly abusive with following diet, lets asses your issues. I want to work with you on this.

First how is your digestion? Is everything very complete? I could not overstate the level of health that comes from maintaining what some people call intrinsic integrity in your digestive system. It is the difference between some level invulnerability or deterioration.

How stable is your blood sugar throughout the day, do you get cravings? Does you thyroid medicine curb cravings?

What is your circulation like?

Does your mind wander and constantly think or do you find peace easily in not thinking about stuff?

Would you be willing to increase exercise to higher level than even recommended for just a week or two? This is part of what I am beginning to think about warriors needing a different approach than Dr. D's. It appears perhaps they need stimulus. To think in an epigenetic sense throughout histories they would of gone through times of stress and relief. I do not recommend mental stress, but perhaps jump starting a system with intense enough exercise to get blood flow at a high level, several times, and literally push the system, might be a very good idea. Yoga comes close if you do it long enough, and cycles out stress, but is not the most available thing. I would actually say that taking some form of blood thinning stuff after exercise might work. Exercise will stimulate things in the body to work at a higher level, but stress then thickening the blood seems to counteract the whole situation of benefit in some ways. Later in the night I would recommend a lot of ginger juice (boil ginger) until relief comes, or a couple glasses of red wine(at least two). You will notice your insulin reception will improve a lot so the wine will go to you quickly. The beauty though is keeping down on the blood sugar which wine does not affect. There is a possibility this may have an effect similar to the idea of celebration after battle or something, since stress puts warriors on high alert (good for fighting, scavenging, and fleeing). Warriors genes appear bread out of culture, like many, but they are recent and may be much more influenced by it than earlier GTs. Even Dr. D has admitted to enjoying martial arts (which he recommends to other GTs but not warriors). You might say I am getting to factors of frequency playing a role. After all warriors would appear very un-sedentary in their life functions, but not per-say nomadic. I have found out that sometimes they only stress relieve I can get is if I move heavy stuff or apply a lot of leverage to something for long enough. It can take me from stressed out to relief; it just happens when I get my heart rate up high enough for a moment but by applying myself in slower motion than say running, but still at a high effort.  

All that sad I think perhaps warriors need the occasional stimulus of sorts to stop their body from believing it can just wither away and develop problems that make it hard for it to apply itself, say like with joints etc. The confusion in our society is that we believe if you exercise you should always be doing the same level on a weekly basis (low and high intensity, but always high mixed in).
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Sandra,

I browsed through this thread, although I didn't read it carefully, so please disregard this if it is covered elsewhere...  

In reading about the Warrior in pgs. 166-167 of The Genotype Diet book:
     Fat balance (Omega 3 to 6) is very important to maintain high metabolism and proper immune system function.
     Trans fat sources should be avoided as they cause arterial inflammation, etc...
     High-glycemic foods should be avoided to, among others reasons, sustain weight loss...


Joe, others have indeed mentioned fats. I use Olive oil when I cook and otherwise I get fats from some peanuts and walnuts that I eat. perhaps I could increase the fats as well.

Trans fat, I don't think I am eating any since I only eat fresh vegetables and fruits. Nothing pre-prepared out of a box, I even make my own soup from scratch.

High-glycemic foods, haven't checked but I am following my Swami (especially the diamond foods) and I doubt that there will be any on there, since my Swami is set for weight loss.




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Instead of playing this game of suggesting you become nearly abusive with following diet, lets asses your issues. I want to work with you on this.

First how is your digestion? Is everything very complete? I could not overstate the level of health that comes from maintaining what some people call intrinsic integrity in your digestive system. It is the difference between some level invulnerability or deterioration.

How stable is your blood sugar throughout the day, do you get cravings? Does you thyroid medicine curb cravings?

What is your circulation like?

Does your mind wander and constantly think or do you find peace easily in not thinking about stuff?

Would you be willing to increase exercise to higher level than even recommended for just a week or two? This is part of what I am beginning to think about warriors needing a different approach than Dr. D's. It appears perhaps they need stimulus. To think in an epigenetic sense throughout histories they would of gone through times of stress and relief. I do not recommend mental stress, but perhaps jump starting a system with intense enough exercise to get blood flow at a high level, several times, and literally push the system, might be a very good idea. Yoga comes close if you do it long enough, and cycles out stress, but is not the most available thing. I would actually say that taking some form of blood thinning stuff after exercise might work. Exercise will stimulate things in the body to work at a higher level, but stress then thickening the blood seems to counteract the whole situation of benefit in some ways. Later in the night I would recommend a lot of ginger juice (boil ginger) until relief comes, or a couple glasses of red wine(at least two). You will notice your insulin reception will improve a lot so the wine will go to you quickly. The beauty though is keeping down on the blood sugar which wine does not affect. There is a possibility this may have an effect similar to the idea of celebration after battle or something, since stress puts warriors on high alert (good for fighting, scavenging, and fleeing). Warriors genes appear bread out of culture, like many, but they are recent and may be much more influenced by it than earlier GTs. Even Dr. D has admitted to enjoying martial arts (which he recommends to other GTs but not warriors). You might say I am getting to factors of frequency playing a role. After all warriors would appear very un-sedentary in their life functions, but not per-say nomadic. I have found out that sometimes they only stress relieve I can get is if I move heavy stuff or apply a lot of leverage to something for long enough. It can take me from stressed out to relief; it just happens when I get my heart rate up high enough for a moment but by applying myself in slower motion than say running, but still at a high effort.  

All that sad I think perhaps warriors need the occasional stimulus of sorts to stop their body from believing it can just wither away and develop problems that make it hard for it to apply itself, say like with joints etc. The confusion in our society is that we believe if you exercise you should always be doing the same level on a weekly basis (low and high intensity, but always high mixed in).


Okay, well that surely sounds different then your first two messages. I was thinking to myself "wow, this guy does really honor his name as destroyer". I was starting to feel a little good about myself and here comes destroyer...

Digestion: I think my digestion is good. I've been following BTD for 6 years now, with a little relapse about three years back, but overall, I am eating healthy and I notice it in my digestion. I used to have terrible heartburn keeping me up at night. No more. I am very regular. Now with the changes that I've made that has shifted from twice a day to three to four times bowel movement, but I think that will regulate itself once my body gets used to the new amounts of protein and changes in the diet. Can it be better? Probably, but I am happy with what I've accomplished and not have tummy aches and horrible acid reflux. Others have suggested that I perhaps need to heal my gut a bit more, so I am trying to do that with the help of Deflect and detoxical-D. I have also started back on the Gastro-D, because I think my allergy reaction may have been from the kelp I was taking and not the Gastro.

Cravings: Now with more protein, I get more cravings. Apparently carbs keep the cravings down. But I don't get cravings for sugar or fatty foods. A piece of fruit or some nuts will make the craving go away. I am very conscious about keeping my blood sugar as flat as possible because I know if it spikes up or down I do get the tendency to pork out in the evening. My thyroid meds don't curb anything.

I think my circulation is good. I got a cut on my leg the other day and I noticed that it took a while for the bleeding to stop. Normally if I get a cut somewhere it hardly bleeds and my blood is very dark red. The cut showed me that my blood is indeed thinner then usual and it was brighter red. Not the dark almost black blood I am used to. My right leg has poor circulation because I had a blood cloth in my knee 10 years back. I am taking bromelain to take care of the access water in that leg. It is helping, in the morning my ankle is normal and thin again.

The mind: ah yes, my mind wanders constantly. It is one of the reason I sleep poorly. But with practice these last weeks I have been able to meditate and shut it down a bit. That is also helping in the sleep area. But it takes some work to do it and I don't always succeed. But I am pretty much thinking all day, about the book I am writing, about work, about my husband, about chores that need to be done. I find rest in writing certain things down. That way I don't have to think about them anymore.

Exercise: In my youth I was a competitive swimmer with training 6 times per week for two-three hours. I felt great! At this moment I don't exercise as much as I would want to, because of the fatigue. But now that I think about it, in 2006 when I started this BTD I lost 80 pounds in 6 months and I exercised a lot. I did the elliptical 4 times per week, went swimming twice a week (and then swim 2 kilometers). I had a buddy and we would go bicycling in the weekend and during the week I would go take a walk in the country side (and after that come home and do the elliptical still) twice a week. So my exercise routine was pretty heavy and most certainly more then recommended. Today I had a day of cleaning the house (big house takes me about three hours), I moved away two cabinets (heavy lifting) and I painted the kitchen for the second time. And I feel very good about it, tired, but good.
I like pushing my body to the limit physically. It makes me feel good. But at this moment I have to be careful not to push too far because it will back lash. So basically I think my answer is yes, I would be willing to push my exercise to a higher regime then recommended. Maybe it will force my body out of this fatigue.

As for stress, I don't really stress about this diet. I've come to terms with the fact that I will have to watch what I eat for the rest of my life. And I've accepted that I will never be thin again, but I would like to be less then I am now, just for my health. it's better for my back, for my knees... etc. I don't even own a scale anymore. I just go by how my clothes fit me. And it's nice when you go to the store and you can buy a smaller size.

I do stress about idiots at work...

As for the red wine, I was thinking about getting a few bottle and having myself a glass every evening.







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I use Olive oil when I cook and otherwise I get fats from some peanuts and walnuts that I eat. perhaps I could increase the fats as well.

Do you have other beneficial fats on your SWAMI? - Sometimes changing the fat you are using will stimulate additional healing.  I recently started mixing in coconut oil (a SF for me), and it has helped me.  I think the different oils are there for more than just flavor variety.  I realize you are subject to what is available around you...  




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Do you have other beneficial fats on your SWAMI? - Sometimes changing the fat you are using will stimulate additional healing.  I recently started mixing in coconut oil (a SF for me), and it has helped me.  I think the different oils are there for more than just flavor variety.  I realize you are subject to what is available around you...  




Almond oil, flaxseed are two that are super/diamond and two that I have access too. I also bought flaxseed this weekend. Was planning on adding those to my smoothie or in any other way I can.





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Sandra, it sounds like you are doing great!  Keep up the fantastic work!

When you said that you will have to watch your weight for the rest of you life, I would like to say that I am thin - and have been thin for the last 26 years - but I watch my weight daily.  I was over weight from the age of about 18 - 25.  Many people assume that thin people are born that way.  I would beg to differ.   I am not obsessed with my weight but I watch it because I have been over weight in the past and know how extremely difficult it is to lose all that weight and maintain your good health in the meantime.

Just remember that there is no guarantee that you will be over weight your entire life, but you may need to watch your weight your entire life.  Life is about making choices and food choices are just one of the many choices we have to make.  Personally, it seems from what you write that you are in a really good place and are working your diet in a way that is healthy.  I would encourage you to continue and understand that maintaining your weight to what is comfortable for you may be a lifelong journey, but along the path of that journey you will also have health and wellness.  Nothing wrong with that!  Health and wellness are worth working for, IMHO!!!     Keep up the great work!


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I would try increasing your exercise to a much higher level for a week or two, until you feel it stresses you, and then back off. I would only do it every other day, and make sure to intake lots of blood thinning stuff in-between.

Also getting exercise that leaves you tired but was not intense may be a good idea. Examples are walking all day, swimming for a long time but not doing laps or anything of "exercise" quality, and whatever else you can come up with to just burn calories.
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Patty, thanks. I try my best, I just really want to get this right for once and for all.

DOS: I'll try increasing my exercise regime. I can't say I've even felt stressed about exercising. And for swimming, that's the good thing about the Caribbean ocean, I can just jump in and swim (just have to be sure to turn around and swim back to shore at some point).




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Just remember if you find yourself getting short with someone, or your mind wandering around or depression then you need to back off for awhile and relax, meditate, blood thin.
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...that's the good thing about the Caribbean ocean, I can just jump in and swim (just have to be sure to turn around and swim back to shore at some point).


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Okay, so day before yesterday, I did not do real exercise, but I had to clean the yard which was physical activity for more then 1 hour. So with all the shoveling and raking and wheel barreling I figured that would suffice for my day activities. I like this kind or work because you use muscles that you never even knew you had. I was not sore afterwards, just felt great.

Yesterday, I did not feel like exercising at all, it is hot (Irene is taking away all the wind on this island and it's so so so hot) but I did it anyway. I did some serious light weightlifting. I did all my different exercises, arms, shoulders, legs, butt takes me about 45 minutes. Worked up a really nice sweat and afterwards I was proud of myself. Slept like a baby, 6.5 hours straight!

I won't go swimming until the weather has normalized again. With this weather there is a change of yelly fish in the ocean. Encountered those critters once, was not a pleasant meeting. Hopefully tomorrow or the day after.

So all in all, I am doing good. Trying to keep the carbs down and the protein up and I am feeling better.




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Good!

I am not convinced of the really low weight thing personally, for warriors. I feel great after lifting 80lb or 100lb bags of sand/concrete. The blood gets going really well for me that way. It works a million times better than hard cardio workouts (I usually stop breathing heard and my heart just pumps really fast). I do sleep better after that too.

Perhaps it is a different of the type of workout with weights. When I did free-weights in high school it felt good but I am starting to think warriors benefit more from retracting action, than pushing, in the arms. Plus I like more natural moving big objects around than the super rigid form of weight rooms; granted with both you have to be somewhat safe, but I can sling heavy stuff around in awkward ways others can not without hurting themselves. The weight room is just all based on (typically) "presses". I am not convinced warriors benefit from trying to "build" muscle as much as they do just exercising their strength capability. If you are one you know you can repeatedly pick up heavy objects onto shoulders or something and move them somewhere, in a working manner, one shot type of thing, instead of repeated motion with lower weight. For me repeated motion with lower weight equals tight muscles, where as really giving some series effort to say a 100lb sand bag just does not do that. I really prefer a range of motions.

I am really thinking maybe we should stop trying to be all the same assuming we will benefit from similar things. I know Dr. D has stated this to some degree but I think biologically speaking there might be a more heightened since of benefit possible with exercise. It does after all keep people alive and lively, of all GTs, just Type A's can not lose weight or keep stress down with most people's ideas of "traditional" exercise for really "getting in shape".
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I've been paying attention to how I feel while doing hard work or exercising and I notice that my mind clears when I am busy. As such it's kind of a meditation as well, the mind is not wandering as it usually does. I do weightlifting exercising with light weights, but I keep at it until I feel my muscles start to ache. While I am doing that I am, of course, counting how many lifts I do, while focusing on the way I stand, keeping my belly muscles tight etc. etc. No time to think of anything else.

I think it's one of the reasons I feel so great afterwards, not only did I work my body, but I cleared my mind as well. I am able to focus better on just that one thing while exercising then while I am meditating. Meditation is hard work for me, mentally.




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I've been paying attention to how I feel while doing hard work or exercising and I notice that my mind clears when I am busy. As such it's kind of a meditation as well, the mind is not wandering as it usually does. I do weightlifting exercising with light weights, but I keep at it until I feel my muscles start to ache. While I am doing that I am, of course, counting how many lifts I do, while focusing on the way I stand, keeping my belly muscles tight etc. etc. No time to think of anything else.

I think it's one of the reasons I feel so great afterwards, not only did I work my body, but I cleared my mind as well. I am able to focus better on just that one thing while exercising then while I am meditating. Meditation is hard work for me, mentally.


Physical labor and exercise definitely help with your mental attitude.  I assume you are enjoying the endorphin buzz    Best feeling in the world.  I even like walking in a quiet, tranquil place.  I do my best thinking and problem-solving when on a walk or a run.


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