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SandrAruba
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Okay, so I have these extra pounds that need to go (about 80 of them). Since May I've been super compliant and now with my husband not here I can be even more compliant. Because of my fatigue issues (that have improved significantly since I started the protocol) I have not been able to be as active as I would want to, so I've not been eating that much.

But now I am wondering maybe I am not eating enough. I am allowed 5 cups of veggies per day. I get no where near that. 2 maybe 3 at the most. I'm allowed fruit twice a day, 1/2 cup which I mix in my smoothie every morning (or I have an omelet). Then I force myself to have a midmorning snack (dates, or walnuts one handful). Then lunch time I have my veggies with fish, turkey or lamb (as is allowed) or when I have a veggie day, with beans. I only eat diamond veggies and fruit since Swami says it enhances my metabolism.

Then again midafternoon snack, I do it because I have to. I like to keep my bloodsugar level without as little spikes as possible. Sometimes I mix 4 ounces of yoghurt with soymilk (to make the yoghurt fluid) and drink that (love that btw) or one apple if I had eggs for breakfast.

Then in the evening I really don't feel like eating anymore but I usually try to get in two slices of spelt bread (or 4 depending on how big they are). And that's it. But I am not hungry in the evening. After 7 I just don't feel like eating anymore. I sometimes will have a cup of coffee.

So I put this all against my Swami portions and I am not eating enough. But I can't eat anymore. I just finished my red snapper with brussel sprouts and I am sooooo full, but I only had two cups of brussel sprouts.

Would it help if I ate more? Perhaps my body is holding on to the extra fat because it's preserving it? That's why I'm not loosing weight?





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Sandra,
I am not totally familiar with the warrior diet, but I think the bread in the pm might not be so great.
Otherwise, what you're eating sounds good.  You mentioned fat, what types of fats/oils do you use?
I will look at the Warrior supps to see what is suggested.....I know some warriors will probably have some advice here...
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Sandra,
I am not totally familiar with the warrior diet, but I think the bread in the pm might not be so great.
Otherwise, what you're eating sounds good.  You mentioned fat, what types of fats/oils do you use?
I will look at the Warrior supps to see what is suggested.....I know some warriors will probably have some advice here...


I use Olive oil in the skillet to prepare my fish etc. and I pour a little of that onto my plate when I eat it. Other then that, not much fat.

For the supps I did the test and I have protein blend and other suggested supps, but I don't want to start any more supps then I have right now for my fatigue protocol. I do always use deflect.

I was doubting the bread in the evening as well (but it's very convenient if you don't feel like eating), so sometimes I will have some yoghurt. Mmaybe I should eat a cucumber in the evening... cuts both ways, I have one more diamond veggie and cut out the bread.





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I am familiar with the Warrior diet because I followed it for 18 months (incorrectly typing myself
from the book).  I agree with Paula....the bread in the pm might not be so great.  You'd be
better off trading that bread for the vegetable portions you're missing with a small portion of
protein or beans.  Bread at night without anything else won't help stabilize your blood sugar. If
anything, it will spike blood sugar.

Perhaps rotating some of your foods...changing up what you eat for breakfast, lunch, eliminating
the bread a few days and see if you're hungrier for a real meal in the evening. And maybe go take a walk or do some light exercise.  

Are you drinking plenty of water?  

It's going to be difficult to lose 80 pounds and balance your blood sugar if you're eating 2-4
slices of bread every evening.  First of all, it's a lot of carb grams.  You're not able to burn any
of it off if eaten at night....and in addition, if it spikes your blood sugar, it's going to instruct
your body to store fat.  That's what insulin does.  If you eat a lot of carbs at once, your body
produces a lot of insulin....A lot of insulin eventually leads to insulin resistance.

I'm curious too. What fats do you eat?  What supplements, if any do you take?


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Quoted from Chloe
I am familiar with the Warrior diet because I followed it for 18 months (incorrectly typing myself
from the book).  I agree with Paula....the bread in the pm might not be so great.  You'd be
better off trading that bread for the vegetable portions you're missing with a small portion of
protein or beans.  Bread at night without anything else won't help stabilize your blood sugar. If
anything, it will spike blood sugar.

Perhaps rotating some of your foods...changing up what you eat for breakfast, lunch, eliminating
the bread a few days and see if you're hungrier for a real meal in the evening. And maybe go take a walk or do some light exercise.  

Are you drinking plenty of water?  

It's going to be difficult to lose 80 pounds and balance your blood sugar if you're eating 2-4
slices of bread every evening.  First of all, it's a lot of carb grams.  You're not able to burn any
of it off if eaten at night....and in addition, if it spikes your blood sugar, it's going to instruct
your body to store fat.  That's what insulin does.  If you eat a lot of carbs at once, your body
produces a lot of insulin....A lot of insulin eventually leads to insulin resistance.

I'm curious too. What fats do you eat?  What supplements, if any do you take?


I am allowed three slices of bread per day according to Swami. I assume those are regular slices, but my bread is not square, so in the middle the slices are bigger then at the end. So if I have slices from the middle I just take two and at the end the slices are smaller, then I take 4. I don't eat them plain, but with peanut butter or a slice of goat cheese or a slice of turkey breast. It is spelt bread. From my own home made spelt bread I take just two slices.

Yes, I do drink plenty of water. Supps: at this moment I am doing the fatigue protocol which is B12, and cortiguard. I always take deflect and I take aromastat for my pre-menopausal issues. And I take harmonia because I felt I did not get enough nutrients. I take that every other day (every day gave me gas, so I lowered the amount of times I take it).




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How are dates rated on your SWAMI?  I was noticing that they are black dot for Warriors in the book.  Dried fruits are very concentrated and if I ate a handful of dried fruits, I would be prone to put on weight.  That seems like a lot to me.



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How are dates rated on your SWAMI?  I was noticing that they are black dot for Warriors in the book.  Dried fruits are very concentrated and if I ate a handful of dried fruits, I would be prone to put on weight.  That seems like a lot to me.


Dates are a superfood on my Swami. That's why I eat them. I try to eat as much superfoods and diamonds as possible. I take neutrals, but very occasionally and mostly to get some variety. And I have only been taking them for the last three weeks or so (when I was going through my list I noticed them as a superfood and figured I could add them).




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Are your brussell sprouts cooked? If not, then they could behave as potential goitrogens impeding weight loss as can broccoli and other crucifers if they are not cooked.

Are you eating enough eggs and protein in general? Sufficient protein from eggs, seafood and meat will help weight loss as well as good healthy fats.

Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


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Are your brussell sprouts cooked? If not, then they could behave as potential goitrogens impeding weight loss as can broccoli and other crucifers if they are not cooked.

Are you eating enough eggs and protein in general? Sufficient protein from eggs, seafood and meat will help weight loss as well as good healthy fats.

Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


Yes, all veggies are cooked. Eggs are a diamond and I am allowed 6 per weeks. So I try to eat 2 every other day. I am hoping my protein is enough from the fish I eat. I am allowed fish 3 times a week and I eat it 3 times a week, then one time turkey, one time lamb and the other two days I eat beans as my protein source. I eat black beans which are neutral, because I haven't been able to find any superfood beans here yet.





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Sandra, you're eating more than I do and I am only around 120 pounds total. I would put on weight and feel uncomfortably full if I tried to eat as much as Swami suggests - my stomach cannot physically accommodate that much food. Remember to listen to your body  


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Sandra are you drinking water with lemon juice within a half hour of rising in the morning?  and are you getting 25 grams of protein within an hour of rising?  This is suppose to rev the metabolism up to lose weight.
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Nice, geminisue.

My thought on this also, was -- and I am not a fan of counting calories-- but just add them up and see. You might find you kicked yourself into starvation mode. I also think when you don't eat as much in a setting, your stomach eventually shrinks down and you don't feel as hungry and get fuller faster.

I don't think it's necessary to set calorie quotas, but it is something to be aware of-- extremes either way.

My gut just said from what you listed, maybe you are right on with not enough calories.


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If its on Swami super and beneficial and even neutral.. eat it ... and I think you seem to eat enough..

The problem I have is that after the first 20 pounds lost on anything, I stop.. the body seems to say enough - and go to sleep..  


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Are you eating a lot of soy foods? If so the extra phytoestrogens can impede weight loss especially if you happen to be estrogen dominant.


I am not eating a lot of soy, but I use soy milk in my smoothie in the morning. From what I understand soy helps against cancer (having had thyroid cancer and already two patches of skin cancer removed, I think that's enough). So basically I die from obesity if I take soy and from cancer if I don't? (I know there is more to it then just that, just putting it very black and white)

As for eating bread in the evening, ER4YT states that I should get my protein at the beginning of the day. So I figured that leaves the carbs for the end of the day.




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Sandra are you drinking water with lemon juice within a half hour of rising in the morning?  and are you getting 25 grams of protein within an hour of rising?  This is suppose to rev the metabolism up to lose weight.


I can't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes of rising because of my thyroid meds (have to wait at least 30 minutes before eating anything after I take them). I tried moving the time I take the meds, but that doesn't work for me.

I would have to check how much protein I get, but I did get the protein blend and was planning on adding that to my morning smoothie. But I want to wait until I am finished with my fatigue protocol first. But I'll check how much protein I get in the morning.





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My gut just said from what you listed, maybe you are right on with not enough calories.


If I had to roughly guess, I think it would be somewhere around 1500 calories.





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Are you sleeping well? Not enough sleep can get your circadian rhythmn off and mess with your hormones.

I guess as long as the hormones are all up to par then the matabolism will follow. If your thyroid is OK then its possible you could have some weak adrenals.


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Are you sleeping well? Not enough sleep can get your circadian rhythmn off and mess with your hormones.

I guess as long as the hormones are all up to par then the matabolism will follow. If your thyroid is OK then its possible you could have some weak adrenals.


Sleep is getting better every day. Hormones are a mess, having no thyroid... But I managed to loose weight three years ago (when thyroid was also gone).





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In the last 6 weeks I've reversed my food-- I used to eat big in the morning then lighter the rest of the day.  Wore me out and also bored the daylights out of me.  I ate this way using blood type guidelines for about ten years.  I'm 40 and who knows, maybe there are all kinds of hormonal shifts that  increase insulin resistance.  I'm much better off having a recovery meal of whey and a grapefruit and coconut oil after my workout then tea and just a little fruit and vegetables till 6.  At 6 I go wild and eat 1500 calories or so in one sitting.  I don't have empirical data but I'm pretty sure I'm losing body fat.  I'm millions of times happier doing this than the conventional approach I miserably followed for so many years.  I've read people say they can't do a controlled fast during the day because of "blood sugar swings" but this is just nonsense.  The bloodsugar can't swing if it doesn't have food to work with.  My blood type A Teacher friend is trying it, albeit not with as much gusto as me, but he seems to be getting the whole concept.
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In the last 6 weeks I've reversed my food-- I used to eat big in the morning then lighter the rest of the day.  Wore me out and also bored the daylights out of me.  I ate this way using blood type guidelines for about ten years.  I'm 40 and who knows, maybe there are all kinds of hormonal shifts that  increase insulin resistance.  I'm much better off having a recovery meal of whey and a grapefruit and coconut oil after my workout then tea and just a little fruit and vegetables till 6.  At 6 I go wild and eat 1500 calories or so in one sitting.  I don't have empirical data but I'm pretty sure I'm losing body fat.  I'm millions of times happier doing this than the conventional approach I miserably followed for so many years.  I've read people say they can't do a controlled fast during the day because of "blood sugar swings" but this is just nonsense.  The bloodsugar can't swing if it doesn't have food to work with.  My blood type A Teacher friend is trying it, albeit not with as much gusto as me, but he seems to be getting the whole concept.


Sahara, I know that won't work for me. I was more or less forced to eat that way, the last three years in Holland, and I gained 20 pounds back (if not 30) from the 80 I had initially lost. Besides, living in the tropics, with this heat, you just don't have an appetite at the end of the day.

I am going to try the other suggestions of getting more protein in the morning. So I started with the protein blend. I figured with my soy milk I get 9 grams of protein, together with the 15 in the protein blend. So getting close to the 25 grams Sue suggested. I am also going try to not eat a fruit smoothie every morning and on those days, have my fruit as snack during the day. I will alternate with eggs with turkey or oatmeal or something like that. Since I'm allowed 6 eggs per week, I can do two eggs per morning, three mornings per week. Have 1 or 2 oatmeal days. I also bought flaxseed and will add that to my smoothie.  

I bought all kinds of compliant beans (pinto, soy, can't find any navy beans) and will have three days without meat at lunch and I will try to eat a little more veggies during lunch. And in the evening I will try to eat a light salad. I bought lots of cucumber and tomatoes (yes, those are superfood on my swami) and Romain lettuce. I found a great site where I can find how much protein certain foods contain, so I can check. Never really paid much attention to it, just followed my Swami as much as possible.

Because I sleep much better I notice I am getting much more active. And if I'm too tired to do anything, I will force myself to do some exercises (light weightlifting or something). Today I was tired also but I forced myself to do some yardwork. I must say, I do feel more satisfied about myself. Working up a sweat, just makes me feel good. Now I can reward myself with a nice shower with one of my lovely all natural soaps (I just find excuses to take a shower so I can use one of my soaps   )

Thanks all, I really wasn't paying that much attention to the amount of protein I was getting (and at which point of the day). I'll let you all know how I'm going. And if I am all slim and gorgeous I will post a before and after picture of myself!    




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Sandra, I am not an A or a Warrior, but when I read what and when you were eating what struck me is that it seems you should not be forcing yourself to eat when you are not hungry.  You need to listen to your body and ONLY eat when you are hungry, IMHO.  If you are worried about your blood sugar, you would be better off to include high quality, acceptable proteins with each meal and compliant veggies.  I would also cut back on the fruit, which can raise your blood sugar.  Try not to eat fruit without some form of protein to balance out the sugar.

I could NEVER eat all of the food on my SWAMI per day.  I limit my grains to once or twice a week and my fruits to three or four servings per week.  I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.  BTW, I also asked for the least amount of food and I still cannot eat it all.

Also, I do not see any form of exercise in your plan.  I assume you need to have some type of exercise as a Warrior.  Maybe you could begin by taking a leisurely walk and working up to doing what Dr. D calls vigorous walking.  He recommends Warriors exercise 30-40 minutes per day, at least four days per week.  He recommends two miles.  The reason I chose walking out of all the exercises he lists is that it is FREE and no matter what your level of physical fitness, most people can begin a walking program and work up to a two mile, vigorous walk, unless of course one is wheelchair bound or bed bound.  It also gets you outside and helps with mood improvement.  Exercise will help jump start your metabolism as well.  Dr. D also recommends meditation for Warriors.  Are you meditating?  Dr. D recommends 20-30 minutes per day, daily.  


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Sandra, I am not an A or a Warrior, but when I read what and when you were eating what struck me is that it seems you should not be forcing yourself to eat when you are not hungry.  You need to listen to your body and ONLY eat when you are hungry, IMHO.  If you are worried about your blood sugar, you would be better off to include high quality, acceptable proteins with each meal and compliant veggies.  I would also cut back on the fruit, which can raise your blood sugar.  Try not to eat fruit without some form of protein to balance out the sugar.

I could NEVER eat all of the food on my SWAMI per day.  I limit my grains to once or twice a week and my fruits to three or four servings per week.  I don't think there are that many folks who eat everything allowed, unless maybe they are trying to GAIN weight.  BTW, I also asked for the least amount of food and I still cannot eat it all.

Also, I do not see any form of exercise in your plan.  I assume you need to have some type of exercise as a Warrior.  Maybe you could begin by taking a leisurely walk and working up to doing what Dr. D calls vigorous walking.  He recommends Warriors exercise 30-40 minutes per day, at least four days per week.  He recommends two miles.  The reason I chose walking out of all the exercises he lists is that it is FREE and no matter what your level of physical fitness, most people can begin a walking program and work up to a two mile, vigorous walk, unless of course one is wheelchair bound or bed bound.  It also gets you outside and helps with mood improvement.  Exercise will help jump start your metabolism as well.  Dr. D also recommends meditation for Warriors.  Are you meditating?  Dr. D recommends 20-30 minutes per day, daily.  


I figured that since it is obvious from the info I put into Swami I am overweight, that it would not give me too much too eat, but I have to be careful not to eat too little, because I know that will shut down my metabolism completely. That is why I try to eat 6 times a day. I also know that if I don't maintain my sugar balance I get enormous cravings in the evening and then I pork out. I am trying to avoid that. I feel I should be hungry at times, that means my body wants food and will start burning fat (at least that seems logical to me).

As for exercise, I know I don't do enough, but that is due to the heavy fatigue. It's a vicious circle I know, but with my fatigue protocol I am getting less tired and I am able to do more slowly every day. Walking is no option here on Aruba. Too many stray dogs that will bother you. So when I can, I get on my eliptical (which hasn't been that often these last weeks). I do do some light weightlifting, at regular interval though. And meditation I try to do 4 times per week.

I am trying to get more protein and cut back on the fruit. That does seem to be the general consensus among most of you, so I am trying that. Like I said, never really paid much attention to the amount of protein I am getting, just tried to eat according to my Swami.





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I figured that since it is obvious from the info I put into Swami I am overweight, that it would not give me too much too eat, but I have to be careful not to eat too little, because I know that will shut down my metabolism completely. That is why I try to eat 6 times a day. I also know that if I don't maintain my sugar balance I get enormous cravings in the evening and then I pork out. I am trying to avoid that. I feel I should be hungry at times, that means my body wants food and will start burning fat (at least that seems logical to me).

As for exercise, I know I don't do enough, but that is due to the heavy fatigue. It's a vicious circle I know, but with my fatigue protocol I am getting less tired and I am able to do more slowly every day. Walking is no option here on Aruba. Too many stray dogs that will bother you. So when I can, I get on my eliptical (which hasn't been that often these last weeks). I do do some light weightlifting, at regular interval though. And meditation I try to do 4 times per week.

I am trying to get more protein and cut back on the fruit. That does seem to be the general consensus among most of you, so I am trying that. Like I said, never really paid much attention to the amount of protein I am getting, just tried to eat according to my Swami.



It seems that if you do cut back on the fruit and simple carbs like the bread and increase your protein and veggies in their place, you will probably see the benefit of stabilizing your blood sugar as well.  

As for the exercise, I do understand that vicious circle.  Maybe setting attainable daily or weekly exercise goals will help to move you forward in that direction as you continue the fatigue protocols.  Good for you on the meditation as well!


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Okay, I've been making some changes. In the morning I take a large glass of water with half a lemon squeezed in (from my own lemon tree).
After that I first take protein blend mixed with some soy milk. That way I have my proteins suggested by Sue.

After that I have whatever breakfast I will have, I try to limit my fruit smoothie to no more then three times per week. Otherwise it's 2 eggs with a slice of turkey. If I do two eggs, I can have this breakfast three days in the week. And my other alternative is oatmeal. That fills up really nice as well. If I did not have a fruit smoothie I make sure I have one apple somewhere half way morning.

For lunch I still have my veggies with either beans, fish, turkey or lamb. I try to alternate as much as possible and not eat the same thing two days in a row. In the evening I have a small salad, romaine lettuce, tomatoes (not too much) and cucumber. I just made my own homemade totally compliant mushroom soup, I can have a cup of that when I get home from work.

I noticed that with more protein I do get a hunger feeling faster through out the day. So I make sure I have some nuts (walnuts, peanuts) at hand.

I have been a lot more active. Not exercising, but yesterday I painted the kitchen. But I still try to do my light weightlifting at least 4 times a week, as well as my meditation. This morning I actually had a walk. Took the dogs to the beach, that's always a nice walk.

And I think I may have lost some weight (don't have a scale so I will not know for sure until my pants drops off my expletive deleted), but I was able to get in one of my shorts which I wasn't able to close the button of a while back. It's still a little tight, but I can put it on, and I wasn't able to do so before. So that's good news.




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Do you not eat any protein in the evening, Sandra?



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