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Patty H
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I'm coming in late here, I know, but isn't IAP concerned with fat digestion and absorption specifically, rather than meat generally?


TJ, I think, if I read this correctly on page 56 of LR4YT, Dr. D states that because O secretors have the highest levels of IAP, they are able to digest red meat.  IAP, according to Dr. D, "aids in the digestion of animal protein and fat."

I think my O nonnie diet has more servings of fish than red meat because non-secretors in general have about 75% (+/-) less IAP than secretors, so my digestive system is more like that of an A secretor.  Does that make sense?  C Sharp helped me with this analysis.

I posted a poll for O non-secretors who use SWAMI.  I have not had a lot of responses, but is it interesting that the last time I checked the poll, most of the O nonnies get more fish.

This really intrigues me because O's are generally associated as being meat eaters, but in fact, if we FOLLOW our SWAMI's, we are fish eaters with meat and poultry thrown in.  I follow my SWAMI because of the heart disease in my family and the fact that I really like fish, being from New England!  


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Dr. D's monthly newsletter just came out and low and behold, he wrote about IAP.  Unfortunately, he did not discuss this enzyme as it relates to nonnies.

What struck me in the newsletter is that he said that A's should eat a low-fat, Mediterranean Diet.  Does this mean that O nonnies, who have about the same amount of IAP as A's, should follow a similar diet, minus the wheat of course?

When he refers to a Mediterranean Diet, what exactly does he mean?


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Dr. D's monthly newsletter just came out and low and behold, he wrote about IAP.  Unfortunately, he did not discuss this enzyme as it relates to nonnies.


He does some of that, here:

http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Intestinal_Alkaline_Phosphatase_(IAP)



MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Some key component of "Mediterranean Diets"

Plenty of exercise if you want to be heart healthy
Emphsize plant-based foods, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts
Use olive oil for fat
Use herbs and spices instead of just salt to flavor foods
Limit red meat to no more than a few times a month
Emphsize fish
Some poultry is okay too
Drink red wine in moderation


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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Some key component of "Mediterranean Diets"

Plenty of exercise if you want to be heart healthy
Emphsize plant-based foods, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts
Use olive oil for fat
Use herbs and spices instead of just salt to flavor foods
Limit red meat to no more than a few times a month
Emphsize fish
Some poultry is okay to
Drink red wine in moderation


Thank you, C Sharp.  My SWAMI allows me to have red meat three times a week, so that is certainly different.  I do, however, eat a lot of fish and veggies, some fruit, some poulty & red meat, rice only, some nuts and no legumes.  I drink red wine as well.

My big question is FAT.  My SWAMI allows only one tablespoon of fat, six times a week.  That is fairly limiting, so I do use more olive oil, walnut oil, sesame oil and ghee than the recommended amount in my SWAMI.  What I am wondering is how much is too much?


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Just to be clear, I do not think that Dr. D. is recommending you do less red meat than SWAMI, the suggestion I posted above are common recommendation for "Mediterranean Diets" (I took them from Mayo clinic and other websites that discuss "Mediterranean Diets".


Personally on SWAMI, if SWAMI says 0-3 for red meat, I try to keep red meat close to zero since red meat gives me headaches.

I use the fat that is necessary to prepare recipes (I may cut it some but not to zero). This always exceeds the guidelines, so I almost never do anything that would add fat to a dish (such as use salad dressings, toppings on vegetables, spreads ...) .



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Thanks, C Sharp, I do understand that I am allowed the red meat and that you were just posting the Mediterranean Diet.  I was just wondering how close it is to my SWAMI.

I am going to have to start looking more closely at my fat intake.  I get my cholesterol checked in September, so I am thinking that I should keep doing what I am doing for now.  If, after seeing my numbers, I need to make some changes, maybe I will need to cut my fat.  I only eat twice a day and like you, fat is required in some cooking.  I do use walnut oil on salads but don't really use a lot of oil/fat in general.  I think I should be ok.  


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Type O Non-secretor Explorer here.

July 2010...

Total Cholesterol 220
HDL 68
LDL 127
Triglycerides 126

August 2011 (approx. one year on btd/swami)...

Total Cholesterol 210
HDL 83
LDL 111
Triglycerides 81

That is an improvement in one year.  Maybe not greatly dramatic, but a definite improvement.  I eat plenty of fats and animal protein, and fresh vegetables and fruits, also nuts and dried fruits.  Rice is pretty much my staple starch, but I keep the portions limited, not as small as Swami recommends, but I don't eat huge amounts of it.  My biggest problem is sugar.  That monkey is still on my back.  It appears that lowering fats did NOT improve my blood lipid numbers, lowering grains did.  Also, the quality of fats I consume are improved, as I don't eat prepackaged or frozen foods anymore so I don't eat transfats and/or other weird pseudo-foods.

I used to suffer from acid indigestion almost every day of my life before I started BTD.  I lived on Tums.  Now, I never have acid indigestion.  Again, that was wheat and other starchy grains affecting my digestion, not fats.  I very rarely feel indigestion anymore, and when I do it usually because I have been non-compliant.     Even though I am a nonnie, I apparently have enough IAP to process the animal protein and fats I consume.  My blood lipid numbers would probably improve further if I ate less and exercised more.  If I exercised more, however, I would be hungrier and eat more.  Eating less doesn't seem to work for me.  
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I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.
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I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.


That is an interesting question.  I don't know the answer, but I hope someone here can point you in the right direction (Lola?).
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I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.


Lola is also LDN.  Maybe you can PM her for information  


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Type O Non-secretor Explorer here.

July 2010...

Total Cholesterol 220
HDL 68
LDL 127
Triglycerides 126

August 2011 (approx. one year on btd/swami)...

Total Cholesterol 210
HDL 83
LDL 111
Triglycerides 81

That is an improvement in one year.  Maybe not greatly dramatic, but a definite improvement.  I eat plenty of fats and animal protein, and fresh vegetables and fruits, also nuts and dried fruits.  Rice is pretty much my staple starch, but I keep the portions limited, not as small as Swami recommends, but I don't eat huge amounts of it.  My biggest problem is sugar.  That monkey is still on my back.  It appears that lowering fats did NOT improve my blood lipid numbers, lowering grains did.  Also, the quality of fats I consume are improved, as I don't eat prepackaged or frozen foods anymore so I don't eat transfats and/or other weird pseudo-foods.

I used to suffer from acid indigestion almost every day of my life before I started BTD.  I lived on Tums.  Now, I never have acid indigestion.  Again, that was wheat and other starchy grains affecting my digestion, not fats.  I very rarely feel indigestion anymore, and when I do it usually because I have been non-compliant.     Even though I am a nonnie, I apparently have enough IAP to process the animal protein and fats I consume.  My blood lipid numbers would probably improve further if I ate less and exercised more.  If I exercised more, however, I would be hungrier and eat more.  Eating less doesn't seem to work for me.  


Your numbers look good O in V.  Congratulations!

BTW, I exercise but don't eat more than I did before I began exercising.


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Your numbers look good O in V.  Congratulations!

BTW, I exercise but don't eat more than I did before I began exercising.


That's great!  Exercise always makes me ravenous later, especially swimming, but any exercise makes me hungry.  
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Can one have their IAP tested?


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I d ask the clinic directly


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